Now everything from now on has to be sci-fi shumps.
I liked it when it had a fantasy setting.
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Why did the fantasy shumps genre die off?
Now everything from now on has to be sci-fi shumps.
I liked it when it had a fantasy setting.
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all your tranmaku shit is fantasy what the frick are you blabbering about?
All shmups died due to
Dry repetitive gameplay loop
Memorization pigs
Routing autism
No creativity in entire genre just shoot move collect coins or chain shit garbage trash
I'm a big fan of the genre but I admit objectively it's terrible on paper Gradius 3 strikers Darius ghost pilot pilot kids thunder dildo 2 dingdonpachi you name it all the fantasy scifi and waifu shmups committed seppuku on purpose
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>DINGDONPACHI.
I'll admit. This is almost certainly true.
I love Parodius because of all the crazy shit it did, not because it's some gameplay masterpiece. (Although I think that the Gradius formula is one of the more engaging ones. I just wish there was more to do after you've got the powers you want)
Yeah, it's pretty much laser-focused for the arcades. People aren't gonna pay $50 for a game like that when they could pay $50 for a game with more variety to offer. I enjoy shmups but it's good to be honest about things.
Weirdly enough it might actually work for mobile phones if you can get past the touch screen issue. Have the ships all be waifus and husbandos, sell cheats, and you might get yourself the first successful shmup in years. Or maybe that's already been done?
I think that it's because they can't think of shit anymore unless it's a halfassed remake or a reboot. I really liked Dimahoo, but I know something like that will never come again...
I made a dick game that shot jizz at asses and snatches, did in SEUCK on the c64 I'll have to find it.
>I made a dick game
>I'm a big fan of the genre but I admit objectively it's terrible on paper Gradius 3 strikers Darius ghost pilot pilot kids thunder dildo 2 dingdonpachi
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Why do all shumps ports only have the "die until you run out of continues" rule?
Why not "die and go back to checkpoint"?
Fricking lame.
I love the crazy fantasy designs of Espgaluda II.
Also, the new Pocky and Rocky just came out.
Fantasy stgs never died, they just got replaced by magical girl stgs. They're more marketable than a dragon or some warrior.
Anon they both died.
I bet you a Hunger Games archery shmup would sell well.
These kind of games are Boring to beat
Cotton, Deathsmiles, Gunbird, Cyvern, Castle of Shikigami?
/vr/ serious question here. Is there any way to find out how many shmups actually exist out there? Any credible sources maybe even giving some rough estimate? I always feel like this genre has to have well over a thousand total games. Probably it is more sensible to say the genre has thousands of games. Wouldn't even surprise me one bit if I saw an estimated number of at least 5000 games existing in this genre.
Hard to tell, they all blend together since they play the same and aren't very inspired or creative...repeat the same tripes and tropes
I wonder why nobody ever made an online 8-player kingdom grand prix
Why does nearly every shoot-em-up thread consist of people that don't like shoot-em-ups?
It's like 3 hardcore autists. From my understanding they're refugees from the shitty shoot em up general on /vg/ and they come here to act like spastics.
Same process every time: Shoot em up thread is created, morons act like morons, names start being dropped, JRPGs are brought up for no reason, and then a janny comes in and blitzkriegs all of the stupid shit.
Yeah I recognize this guy's
posting style. He's in pretty much every thread.
A couple of guys tried the genre, got filtered and their ego was so hurt they cope with it by shitting on shmups obsessively.
Normally they'd be a minority, but this board almost doesn't have fans of these games so these guys stick out a lot.
/shmupg/ schizo act was so off putting I never cared about the genre again. To put it this way, the community aimed at /asp/ but hit /misc/
To clarify, the moment they started tracking down users between unrelated threads and intimidating them by revealing personal information that's when I said frick it. It's just a videogame you schizos.
I liked Legendary Wings, especially how it had a mixture of vertical and horizontal gameplay.
Though I only played the NES version with my friend, sorry if that's sacrilege to some arcade players.
What game genre evade this criticism?
Do you genuinely believe other genres are plagued with those issues to an even relatively similar extent? ALL of the best shmups have those issues that objectively lower their design quality. That's what makes it a conceptual problem from the start. I can't think of any other retro genres that would have anything close. Rhythm games I guess?
>Do you genuinely believe other genres are plagued with those issues to an even relatively similar extent?
I agree with the memorization and routing being issues with the arcade-template of these games, but at the same time, most players are very conservative and that makes it difficult for these games to bring new things.
Check out Mario Party or other Party games. Lots of gameplay varierty there.
Or try one of those minigame collections.
I love this genre but I don't really push myself to pursue 1CCs. I usually just try to beat my high score from the last time I played. I'm thinking I'll probably be able to enjoy these games well into old age if I approach them like this.
The best thing about the genre is it is not comfy. The games are uncomfortable to play, unless you are super good and have learned them like the back of your hand, but, even then you still need to focus, you can't really relax. These games aren't about immersion, they are about challenging yourself, gradually chipping away and overcoming what seems at first like impossibility. Haters never put in the effort.
Practicing these games feels like rehearsing for a gig//performance. Chop the games by bits, find a way to deal with each stage and then you’re gradually incorporating what you practiced by doing runs until you manage to win on a credit
>The best thing about the genre is it is not comfy
idk, I have a bunch of clears and I'm the opposite, I just find the games comfy
you spend a lot of time practicing sections which have absolutely no stakes because you just reload your save if you mess up, and can frick around trying dumb stuff.
then when you go for actual runs it's comfy because you know the game like the back of your hand and just play on autopilot with your brain off, only exception being the when you get close to your PB and may be nervous, but 70% of the game is a breeze
even if you don't practice, you end up knowing the early stages like the back of your hand (and objectively, the first half of a game is rarely hard) and just comfily frick around before getting to the real part
there's no stakes, if you game over you reboot the game and start again, it's not like a fighting game tournament where you're not allowed to lose. nobody will know about your hundreds of failed runs, only that one actual good run matters.
If you valued your time you might feel some level of discomfort about replaying the same thing over and over.
There's not really any stakes until the lategame in fighting games either. If you have any chance of winning a tourney, you're not going to struggle for most of your matches. You might not even struggle until grands when you're matched up with the only other guy on your level in the whole event.
The stakes are so low that events like CEO literally let top players skip the early rounds because they know it's pointless
For most people the stakes late into a good run and late into a tourney are the same - if they fail, it can sting, but there's nothing to do but do another run or wait for the next tourney. You bring up your one good run or your one good placing at a relatively stacked event, and your "record" of losses doesn't really matter for anything other than petty bickering and ego-boosting.
Shmups are having a resurgence, or maybe publisher sharks have smelled blood in the water.
Why do people keep asking these questions in /vr/?
The games here have already been made, if you want to talk about upcoming or newer shit go to Ganker