>Completely backwards compatible with the PC Engine
>Literally twice as powerful, beats the Genesis and SNES
>Looks like some H.R Giger nightmare machine
>Could've been used for a relaunch in the U.S with the same name
It's not fair bros...
Why did the SuperGrafx flop?
No killer app
Can't play rondo or sapphire
Actually it could play Rondo of Blood, it was compatible with the PC Engine CD addon too. Although a new version of the game on HuCard could've been interesting too.
Sorry, I was being moronic and was thinking of the Shuttle model.
Assuming you’re like 38+ and from the U.S. did you know a single kid that owned the TG-16 or even see one in person at a store? I sure didn’t.
I'm 43 and knew a kid with a tg16+cd and another with a duo. That's where I got my duo from.
I’m also 43 and knew a guy who had the base model tgfx16 in the early 90s. It was cool as hell and had the weirdest games like JJ & Jeff which is why I emulate it today.
>and Devil’s Crush too
I only knew one kid that owned a TG-16 who was married. All the rest were single. I don't think I knew anyone in the US who had ever played a video game who didn't at least see one in a store. You led a very sheltered life.
Actually I take back my original post. I did play a demo unit at a big Toys R Us location once when we were visiting my grandparents in Cleveland, but I certainly didn’t know anyone my age or otherwise that had one.
Visiting from where? Someplace "the black mall" was just "the mall"?
14. Christgay families. Dude coveted his neighbors daughters ass, and unlocked the shotgun wedding achievement.
>Visiting from where?
Central Pennsylvania. I’m fairly certain the TG-16 was rarely found in stores outside of larger population centers. Our local mall at a small Electronics Boutique, but they only carried the mainstream consoles.
Our local mall had*
Our mall also had a K•B Toys, but same deal with the exception of this one time I remember K•B Toys getting rid of their Jaguar stock for $50 each. Never saw a TG-16 locally.
Toys R Us carried everything; that's the store you went to, to buy TG16 and Neogeo. K-B Toys was Nintendo and Sega, til the Saturn bombed and they refused to stock Sega.
Yeah, we never got one in State College. Despite Penn State being there, it was a pretty sleepy semi-rural community to throughout the 90s. We didn’t get big box stores like Best Buy/Circuit City until the early 00s.
why are penn state fans such gays, I keep running into them
Kek, it was a nice safe area to grow up in, but I can’t disagree.
I'm in Texas they keep moving here and they have the penn state shit all over the house and they're like wanna come hang out on saturday and watch penn state stomp big chungus community college it's gonna be tight, they're not as bad as A&M fans though
Penn State fans are gay because they were groomed by Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky.
Pretty sure the banjo boy never saw one either. Nearly every toys r us in socal had them. The small boutique game shops had PC Engines.
I’m so jealous of you guys that grew up in test market cities like L.A. that got all the new toys and stuff first. That and your cool outdoor school lockers.
I didn't grow up in LA. I was 18 when the PCE came out and got it in Japan. But yeah, LA was a weeb paradise. Had an actual Japanese mall in little Tokyo and thousands of little shops where you could rent/buy video, manga, etc.
>I only knew one kid that owned a TG-16 who was married. All the rest were single.
How old was this married kid?
A friend of my parents had one in the mid 90’s, the guy had 5 tv’s of various sizes in his living room, one for the tg16, genesis, nes, snes and one for live sports. Used to play Bonk and Devil’s Crush everytime I’d go over there. He also had a cat he trained to shit in the toilet and flush with its paw afterwards. Still trying to wrap my head around how based that man truly was.
We weren't really looking for mid-gen refreshes then as much as we do now. Mostly it is used for performance enhancement, but I do wish there were more games that utilized mid-gen refresh hardware to the fullest untethered from weaker hardware.
I qualify under those conditions. In those days, aside from myself, I had 4 other friends which had the systems. I'd visit the mall and enjoyed watching the kiosk video for the TG16 too.
What did he mean by this
Exactly as the image name suggests.
Never had one.
I started with NES to SNES, but always desired those games with the topless anime girls, and found those more fitting to my tastes. As for my friends, one like the art of Mita Ryuusuke-sensei, so he got a Duo just for the Dragon Half game, but his first console was the Saturn so he got it afterwards. Another got a Duo from her brother, she's not particularly into video games, so she just chills with Rondo and whatever little game she got to play every once in a while. She had a friend which became our friend who had the original TurboGrafx-16, and she has alternative tastes (but went to Playstation after); being mildly known in some circles any more could revel her identity and mine so I will just say I knew her in her past as a tit-e-girl when all anyone ever says was "she's 13" prior to her mild fame in part for her TG16 love. The last was older than us, but he imported a lot so the original white PC-Engine combo was a natural fit; he goes around fixing arcades these days. The thing we all have in common are that we have odd tastes and enjoy manga.
It was my first portable system. Loved it, but my favorite is the NGPC which won me over it. Went decades without partaking in Nintendo portables, but only in the 2020s did I finally get a Nintendo portable outside of playing on a Gamecube or SGB2. I must say, as a non-portable player, the Nintendo portables are nowhere near as special to me as ones made by others. I'm trying to save up for a Switch, got a few games for it already, but still have to get the system one day.
This whole post is far, far too weeb for me, but keep on keeping on, anon.
Forgot your trip
>I had 4 other friends which had the systems
That’s pretty crazy. What made them choose TG-16 over the Genesis or SNES?
>turbo express
The og portable switch
I payed Alex Kidd at Child World once. that was the only time I ever saw tgfx16.
They had the DUO and TG16 at local toy stores (I lived in a big city) and a friend had one at home.
This is a chicken and egg argument and doesn't answer the question
I suspect the issue was the CPU was the bottleneck and it was too hard to develop for. Also the cost of memory was crazy at that time so you couldn't really take advantage unless you wanted your games to cost crazy amounts of money
Not with a 8 bit CPU it wasn't
It was barely more powerful than the base PC-Engine and had almost no games. I suspect NEC intended it to be their next gen console but waaaaay undershot the hardware. They ended up repeating that mistake for the PC-FX.
Are you an idiot?, it was twice (yes, 2x) as powerful and beats the Genesis and SNES as stated before. At least look into it yourself before spreading lies.
The 32X was 40 times as powerful, did that let it go anywhere good?
the games were only 8 megabits, yet cost over $100. the system is also ugly as frick. the pc engine was sleek, the supergrafx looks like a facehugger
it's also not like all 5 games were available at launch. they were spread out across a 2.5 year period. all the pce's 3rd party devs backed out for supergrafx, so everything is hudson or nec
the hardware wasn't necessary, the pc engine just needed more AAA developers and a less expensive cartridge medium. most hucards do not exceed past 4 megabits, its a miracle what some devs did with such limited rom space
there is a rumor namco courted NEC with a pc engine 2 design, so hudson panicked and the supergrafx was born
no clue if this is honestly true though
the ghouls n ghosts conversion is solid but not a slam dunk. the colors are shockingly dull and the sound isn't great, nec avenue was hit or miss with chip sound. it's also a lot harder because no checkpoints
the only game that even got improved was darius plus (and alpha). i believe it mostly removed the flicker
The pricing was bad, and the console should have been marketed as a true successor (i.e a PC Engine 2) with full backwards compatibility. It was also a bad idea to launch the device a year earlier than initially planned, without a backing of exclusive games. The hardware itself is very solid, with numerous advantages over it's competitors, but whether due to office politics or incompetence they really screwed the pooch.
idk but the ghouls n ghosts conversion is fricking ace.
5 games.
There is no smaller library.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entex_Adventure_Vision
It could be argued the SuperGrafx only has 4 games, but either way it's close.
>Literally twice as powerful, beats the Genesis and SNES
No it's not? The hardware remained largely the same as the turbografx. The genesis still had both of them beat in the CPU department, being the only 32 bit console.
The architecture, yes, but it had two of the PC Engine's graphics processors and could handle a lot more colors than the Genesis could as well. It was a beast of a machine. What I'm wondering is why it did so poorly, and what could have been done to change that.
It could handle more colors at once but still didn't have as big a palette as the SNES.
>What I'm wondering is why it did so poorly
It was almost twice as expensive as the genesis and had no games.
>what could have been done to change that.
Nothing. Should've focused on boosting the turbografx sales instead of making a pointless successor with no games. People were buying the genesis because it was a cheap system with a much more flexible hardware, not solely for the graphics. The flexibility of the 68000 allowed the Genesis to receive as many games as the SNES did even with the lack of Japanese developers.
What they really should have done is skipped the base Supergrafx and put it's hardware into the Turbo Duo and then released that in America, skipping the TG16 altogether.
Well just by looking at it... having a controller that's basically an NES controller that came out in 1983... when THIS was the gold standard probably had something to do with it.
It's the golden shower standard, a piss console for piss games.
This
>when THIS was the golden standard
The shoulder buttons were great but everything else was ass next to the genesis controller. The supergrafx indeed could've used a much better controller though.
>The shoulder buttons were great but everything else was ass next to the genesis controller.
I dare you to be more wrong.
The controller isn't that great. Get a grip dude.
You couldn't possibly find the SNES controller more comfortable unless you have femboy hands. It's so flat and had no grip.
>unless you have femboy hands
Come on, man. He's a Nintendo fan.
Have you used an original Genesis controller? I don't just mean the three button but the original one with the red text? They're stiff as hell.
Who uses the red one?
Me since it came with my goodwill genesis model 1 bundle... Actually, I did find a white arrow genesis controller and WOW does that make a difference. It also doesn't have the annoying habit of doing down+left when I press down.
Yes, white arrow is prime Genesis. The D-pad slopping on diagonals early on was quite annoying.
Anyone who got a Genesis between 1989 and I guess 1991? Pretty sure the white arrow version was introduced right around when Sonic 1 came out.
About about the offical turbo controllers?
Missing out USA release instead pick TG-16
>upgrade a system with a really edgy design
>release the old version in another market, at the same time
it failed cause they weren't smart enough to sell it outside Japan as the standard model, while pushing Japs to upgrade
>edgy design
It's quite literally THE sci-fi games console of its generation and it looked the part.
The reason the Supergrafx looks the way it does is because it was intended to have a complex arcade style interface attached to it. I don't think they ever released it though because the thing bombed. But even the concept is dumb. Why release an ugly ass thing that you have to keep right in front of you to use with the steering wheel or whatever that thing is supposed to be? Normal consoles just had different types of controllers with long wires.
You had to buy an entire new console to get any of the improvements, so even if we ignore the whopping 5 SuperGrafx exclusives it was not a good trade whatsoever.
Supposedly the Supergrafx and the Coregrafx fix possible audio distortion but has anyone ever encountered such things or know of any examples?
How does it stack up to the neo geo?
The supergrafx deserved better bros, we didn't do our part.
Probably cause no games and no buttons on the controller
>only 1 launch title
>next game was almost 5 months away
>ended up as a pro version of the pc engine but uglier instead of the next gen console it was planned as
They weren't even trying
If it could do transparencies there's no reason for it to fail.