>After he succumbed, the chain was also used to lower him into the sewers.
NTA but oh man am I blind. I just realized he's getting hung right over the sewer entrance well. Appreciate the post
>it wasn't mean tot be a quick death
dude he was hung with his armor on and we both know that armor weights a shitload, his neck was snapped instantly if not torn off.
I don't like the all white background in the first panel. make it the same color as the sky so it looks like he's actually there. third panel windows too maybe
He didn't actually enjoy poop. He rips out men's souls through their ass, eats them, shits them out, and puts them back, before the man in question dies.
The game isn't degenerate. It includes evil people and presents them as being exactly as horrible as you are. Literally everyone in the game that has anything to say about the man describes him as utterly irredeemable without a single positive quality, something he openly admits to. It's not like these games haven't let you be an evil misanthrope since Demon's Souls.
Tarnished revival seems to have happened in waves, with a whole bunch of people being revived at once irrespective of their nature or goals. The only person we know of that was revived specifically by choice is (you).
https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Dung_Eater
Didn't play Elden Ring but nothing about his lore says he ate shit so why is he called the Dung Eater? Is it possible that he was maligned by his captors after his death? He just seems to be some dude who went crazy and killed a bunch of people.
according to the japanese folklore the souls is located in the anus (that's also why in sekiro the headless have a grapple move when they grab you and literally pull stuff out of your ass)
dung eater was big on desacrating souls in the most vile way possible, so he probably pulled souls out of people through their ass and PROBABLY ate them? the last part is up to speculation i think
He didn't LITERALLY eat shit, it just kinda looked like he did lmao
something something japanese superstition and the soul resides in the anus
according to the japanese folklore the souls is located in the anus (that's also why in sekiro the headless have a grapple move when they grab you and literally pull stuff out of your ass)
dung eater was big on desacrating souls in the most vile way possible, so he probably pulled souls out of people through their ass and PROBABLY ate them? the last part is up to speculation i think
He didn't LITERALLY eat shit, it just kinda looked like he did lmao
The term that would be helpful here is "shirikodama". It's like a magic marble that was made of your condensed soul and it was kept in your ass. Ancient Japanese beliefs said it was lusted after by all sorts of stuff like spirits and demons and shit and they'd go up your butt to rip that shit out if they had to, killing you in the process. FromSoft has slipped the concept into a handful of their games as of recent.
This isn't to be confused with kintama. Which were golden balls kept in your scrotum. Like, the ancient Japanese believed that human testicles were straight up made of gold. And sometimes they also filled the heads of bald men. Those weren't magic or anything, just straight up gold.
That being said, I see the Dung Eater less as a Shirikodama Eater and more as a Sin Eater style archetype maybe because of the strong western themes of the game? Sin Eaters were parts of rituals in the west (that we seldom talk about anymore) that entailed letting poor/homeless people into your home and making them eat food off the dead or food made from a little bit of the dead. The idea being that the sins of the dead would pass on to the poor and the homeless instead who would carry those sins so the dead could pass on into heaven unburdened by their sins. It's not practiced much anymore, but it's the inspiration for eating a ton at wakes in our modern culture. Usually the people chosen would be super desperate, so they'd be paid a very small amount in exchange for effectively dirtying their own soul on behalf of your dead loved ones. It's was a super exploitive set of rituals and afterward the poor person would be cast out of your house and treated as less clean. If someone did it enough and became a known Sin Eater they might even be moved outside a village for it. They were treated as both necessary, but filthy and less than human at times.
The Dung Eater commits the sin of growing his own Seedbed curse off the bodies of those he killed and "defiled", though. So he goes a whole step forward. I see him almost as some kind of Sin Eater who goes out of his way to sort of cultivate the sins of the dead, making them larger and stronger through killing specific people and defiling them somehow. He grows his own food with intention and that requires him to preform greater sins than just eating. He's so enamored with sin that he's going out of his way to make it stronger and bigger when he devours it. And his crimes grow as a result. And those he does it to can no longer pass on. Corrupting the natural order. Going so far beyond his purpose, he's now taking on the negative aspects of it and no one is gaining the positive aspects.
The question, at least to me, becomes more so what his "defilement" was. If his name is anything to go off of, it might've involved Eastern beliefs and taken the form of some kind of removal of the shirikodama and thus removal of the soul (potentially seen and misunderstood as Dung Eating). But it's somewhat unclear. "Defile" can mean a lot of things and in the contexts of Elden Ring it can mean even more.
And just plain ol Satanism for us westerners. Its all just inversion/chaos worship.
If it's Sin Eating? No. The practice is surprisingly very Christian. Hell, even if we're just talking normal cannibalism, Christianity gets mighty close. "Eat of my blood and flesh" and all that. Christianity has a long proud heritage of eating or sacrificing people, dude. Maybe not dung, but that's not really all that weird when you're out there eating some dudes blood as well.
What the dung eater actually does to the soul is not explicitly stated. Given that he is called the dung eater, it's implied he eats the souls, but the victim is still alive and has their soul before they die. Therefore, what's likely that he eats the soul, shits it back out, and then puts it back.
There's no indication that the dung eater or his practices ever had any positive outcome for anyone. While your idea of his behavior being inspired by sin eater ritual may be accurate, the reason that the dung eater does what he does is simple: he is at war with spirituality itself, and goes out of his way to completely ruin souls because he enjoys it.
>It's not practiced much anymore
Some israelites still do this with chickens. Everything's A-OK with G-d when you transfer all your misdeeds onto a chicken and torture it to death. They mostly just do this with money and donate it to charity now though.
The egg on their faces as they all arrive at Sheol must be priceless. Jesus probably stops by just to shake his head at them.
I mean, Christianity did it for fricking hundreds of years if not thousands, to be fair. It's called Scapegoating. Like well and proper Scapegoating, not the modern meaning of them word. You'd take a goat and transfer all the sins of your village onto it and then walk it outside the village and kill it as a sacrifice to god. In some versions you'd take two goats out and set the sinful one free so the sins would leave the village forever and sacrifice the other one. This is why a lot of early depictions of Satan involved goat parts, it was the fear that your sins would return to the village in the form of the goat you set free. I've seen some people point out that the story of Jesus is awfully close to the ritual of Scapegoating, actually. He took on the sins of the world and was killed so he would take them with him away to the other side. It's a common Western religious motif. It appears in Norse mythology, too.
Are you saying it's not real because it's inconvenient and doesn't conform with your world view so you'd prefer to remain ignorant? Or are you saying it's fake because you legitimately believe that because you have proof and are willing to explain? At the end of the day, it does no one any good to ignore the truth if it's unpleasant. It's best to look into the past with eyes wide open, prepared to see the darkness for what it truly is, inconvenient or not, Anon. Steady thyself and learn from the things that don't conform to your world view, don't simply deny them because you don't like them. If they're real, then so be it. Our world is painful and our past is no different. To deny it is to deny God's creation. To choose ignorance is the ultimate sin.
He is the loathsome dung eater it is explained in the game why they hate him.
Why does the discord keep making these threads where they either know the answer already or the answer is explained at face value?
I really don't get this new tactic.
>Why does the discord keep making these threads where they either know the answer already or the answer is explained at face value?
It is a humiliation ritual they are forced to engage in by their mods so they will be easier to groom.
Most of the tarnished were already killed and revived by Marika's grace. The mystery the other NPCs have is why would Dungeater be revived like the others?
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DIABOLIC DOO-DOO DESTROYER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CONNISEUR
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENJOYER
THE SHADY STOOL SAMPLER
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DEVILISH DOO-DOO DIGESTER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CHOMPER
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENGULFER
THE GROSS GUANO GUZZLER
THE PERVERSE POO PECKER
THE TARNISHED TURD TOSSER
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DEVILISH DOO-DOO DIGESTER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CHOMPER
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENGULFER
THE GROSS GUANO GUZZLER
THE PERVERSE POO PECKER
THE TARNISHED TURD TOSSER
Why are they all alliteration when the original isn't?
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DEVILISH DOO-DOO DIGESTER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CHOMPER
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENGULFER
THE GROSS GUANO GUZZLER
THE PERVERSE POO PECKER
THE TARNISHED TURD TOSSER
>there are imps in all the catacombs.
I know but they look different from the other imps and they're not hostile.
No clue, but I'd wager either imp statues representing high-ranking servants or just random item holders for when he'd awaken, should the situation arise
No clue, but I'd wager either imp statues representing high-ranking servants or just random item holders for when he'd awaken, should the situation arise
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DEVILISH DOO-DOO DIGESTER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CHOMPER
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENGULFER
THE GROSS GUANO GUZZLER
THE PERVERSE POO PECKER
THE TARNISHED TURD TOSSER
>I will kill again. And defile each corpse with care. >Just to be sure. That when they're reborn... >They'll be cursed. Along with their children, and their children's children, for all time to come
Not entirely clear. Kind of? He grows omen horns on corpses to achieve his goal of his victims being unable to have an Erdtree burial/return to the Erdtree.
Have you played this game? The use hanged people as decoration, go to castle morne and there's atleast 60 of the same copypasted hanged guy there alone, they just like hanging around.
Whatever he did broke the cycle of reincarnation for his victims and possibly created a spate of omen births. I'm actually surprised they just hung him for this, considering both of those actions are big fricking sins in the Lands Between.
He's wearing his armor, this wouldn't strangle him or break his neck. It was a form of crucifixion. He might have been there for a while. Then they locked his corpse away in the sewer, in case he came back to life
To this day, I don't clearly understand the nature of omens, the dung eater, or his curse. Feels like it's on the tip of my tongue but some detail is missing. It also doesn't help that, for a long time, I assumed omens were connected to misbegotten, mostly because of the animal-like features that morgott and mohg have. I mean, they still might be connected. It's all surprisingly mysterious
all i know is that Omens are denied the grace of the erdtree and are thus shunned by society and that the Dungeater wants to put a curse on every being
I'm not convinced the formless mother influenced any omens besides mohg and morgott. They're the only two people in the game who have bloodflame powers, other omens don't seem to. Though, I'm sure their omen nature lended itself to connecting with the mother. Apparently the connection made mohg love his cursed blood/birth, if I understand the phrasing correctly in the description of Bloodboon
My interpretation of the lore, from what I can understand, is that the omens, the misbegotten, and demi-humans were connected to some sort of primordial world tree which either became or was supplanted by the Erdtree. This primordial tree was known as "The Crucible" and seemed to be a melting pot of biological life, which is why beings associated with it look like hybrid beings, and why the Crucible Knights have an array of animalistic abilities.
It's not exactly clear what happened, but when the Golden Order had arisen, these beings who were not a part of this order were shunned or subjugated. My guess is that the Crucible tree was once responsible for the formation of all organic life, but then the Erdtree became the dominant power and suppressed these features, creating/uplifting baseline humanity as the dominant species/form of life. But just like with the darksign in DS, this seal isn't perfect, and sometimes these "mutations" leak out and create omen children, who are probably the natural state of man (Miyazaki loves this theme of man's true nature being that of monsters).
As for the Dungeater, if you look past his insanity, my guess is that he wants to restore the natural order of things before the Erdtree and the cycle of rebirths. I believe his method is to "curse" people away from the clutches of the Erdtree, and return man to the omen form.
Because I'm not afraid of some homosexual Gankeredditor calling me a troon over a video game that's very open to interpretation.
>>2 trees bullshit
If you read the description of root resin, it says this:
"Resin secreted from the roots of the Great tree. Material used in crafting items. The roots of the Great tree drive far and wide through the earth of the Lands Between. They were once entwined with the roots of the Erdtree, or so they say."
Notice how "Great tree" and "Erdtree" are used separately as the GT was once entwined with the roots of the ET.
The Deathroot description says this:
"On the night of the dire plot the stolen Rune of Death enabled the first Death of a demigod. Later, the Rune of Death spread across the Lands Between through the underground roots of the Greattree, sprouting in the form of Deathroot."
So the roots of this Great Tree are underground throughout the Lands Between. Now I am willing to eat the crow if this all happens to be a translation error from the Jap script, but no one has come forward yet with evidence that this is mistranslated, so I have to assume that there are two world trees that were once in existence.
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kek look at it waste it's time on shit we all know is wrong.
It looks like a mental illness.
The omens are not like the misbegotten and demihumans, they have an actual curse associated with the formless mother, it is not a natural or ancient form. The dung eater spreads this curse not because he likes the crucible, but because he hates everyone and everything other than himself.
Yea. On top of this, dung eater's perspective on it is strange, though. He's intensely spiteful and phrases his actions in a very hateful and negative way. And the process of his curse is indeed really brutal and horrifying just to witness. He's not an omen, but altered his armor so he resembles not just an omen, but one with its horns cruelly cut off. It's hard to get a gauge on his real perspective and intentions
He hates life itself. His "curse" is when he rapes you so bad you accept his position is correct, that is the seedbed curse planted in the victim. Like an info hazard, they don't want to know what they know now but they know it and it infects their soul.
He mindbreaks their soul into seeing his perspective, and it ruins them.
Not him, but we don't have to assume that every named Tarnished has some grand motive behind their actions and Dung Eater is the best example of a guy that simply hates everything and shit's on life.
Yes. He says he does it so the erdtree won't accept them and it would end the erdtree cycle. You find the seedbed curses on people that have been tortured to death. He wakes them up to the ills of the GO so they can't hide from it in bliss and it scars their souls.
The dude has a fricking ending attached to his quest lol.
Omens are born with cursed souls, which for some reason causes the growth of strange horns. Dung Eater emulates the process with his defilement and seedbed curse.
The wraith caller bell, which the omen bairns are stronger versions of and Dung Eater uses, provides the key to understanding what omens are. The sewer omens even breathe out wraiths like fire.
Crucible involvement in this is questionable and I don't think the Formless Mother was involved with many omens beyond Morgott and Mogh. No omen-related items mention either, and things actually corrupted by the Formless Mother tend to show different symptoms like bloodflame, blood sacks, red skin and spike shooting, etc.
I get the impression omens are just something that exists on their own without any outer god meddling.
The OP is full of visuals don't really make much sense within the lore like Morgott beating Radahn or Godfrey being nailed to a tree. That dude was more powerful than most demigods, what the frick is out there that can do him in that badly? The world will never know.
I think that instance of Morgott being on par with Radahn makes sense though.
Morgott is supposed to be strong considering he kept the capital defended even when fighting against invaders, like Radahn or Malenia, in some way most of Marika's direct offspring should all be on the same power level, regardless of how difficult the fight itself was, which is just player's headcannon.
Prime Radahn and Prime Malenia fought and were both on par for the most part. Malenia humilliated Godfrey. Morgot was able to fend off invaders. I think Rykard was implied to get eaten by the snake after he was defeated or after Volcano Manor was invaded, but we don't have much info of his pre-vore abilities.
What do you mean? The original tarnished were literally godfrey and his entire army with which he conquered the lands between in the name of marika and the erdtree. When their job was done, marika took grace from them, and the gold faded from their eyes. When the game takes place, all tarnished are either original members of the army or their descendants.
Are you saying it's not real because it's inconvenient and doesn't conform with your world view so you'd prefer to remain ignorant? Or are you saying it's fake because you legitimately believe that because you have proof and are willing to explain? At the end of the day, it does no one any good to ignore the truth if it's unpleasant. It's best to look into the past with eyes wide open, prepared to see the darkness for what it truly is, inconvenient or not, Anon. Steady thyself and learn from the things that don't conform to your world view, don't simply deny them because you don't like them. If they're real, then so be it. Our world is painful and our past is no different. To deny it is to deny God's creation. To choose ignorance is the ultimate sin.
Root chakra, homosexuality and sodomy are an assault on the soul. Greeks said it was in the head because it was farthest away from the anus and they really wanted to buttfrick eachother. Egyptians watched the pharaoh jack off into a river and then all the men would gather and do the same, so they're gay at heart but not in body.
>egypt
Probably associating the heart and the blood pumping with "life energy" >japan
Maybe they had a lot of cases of dysentery and after a lot of people died from shitting themselves to death they just assumed that they shitted their lives away so soul=inside anus
Honestly i dont get the greeks, sure you die without your head but its the same without your heart.
Root chakra, homosexuality and sodomy are an assault on the soul. Greeks said it was in the head because it was farthest away from the anus and they really wanted to buttfrick eachother. Egyptians watched the pharaoh jack off into a river and then all the men would gather and do the same, so they're gay at heart but not in body.
>Greeks said it was in the head because it was farthest away from the anus and they really wanted to buttfrick eachother
I guess this makes sense
To be serious though, greeks thought of the human as an inverted plant. Plant originate and root from below, then grow upwards with their reproductive organs on top in the light. Humans start from the brain their body grows down where their reproductive organs are hidden in the shade.
Thus to the hyper rational greeks, it was the head. Eastern yoga teaches that humans are the same as a plant, with the sexual force being what generates a persons vital energy that allows them to exert their will. Thus for the spiritual eastern world, the head was the creative fruit that allows them to act on the world.
I have an actual thing to discuss:
Why does the bloodhound knight set look like the tree sentinel set scavanged? Put the tree sentinel knight legs on the bloohound chest it is the same armor set, and the actual tree sentinel chest doesn't look like it matches the legs as well.
The only difference is the bloodhound set is faded and old, but it has literally the same filigree and design.
Because he raped people. The Dung Eater is spreading the omen curse as a pox to destroy the Erdtree, likely due to losing a kid to the Omen curse, after his/her horns were severed. At least that's what the design of his armor tells me. He is the Man on Fire of Elden Ring, except he is on Shit
Why did they hang him with his armor on?
Because he raped and mutilated, and murdered many men, in that order, in a direct assault against spirituality itself.
He was hanged there and left to die, it wasn't mean tot be a quick death. After he succumbed, the chain was also used to lower him into the sewers.
>After he succumbed, the chain was also used to lower him into the sewers.
NTA but oh man am I blind. I just realized he's getting hung right over the sewer entrance well. Appreciate the post
>it wasn't mean tot be a quick death
dude he was hung with his armor on and we both know that armor weights a shitload, his neck was snapped instantly if not torn off.
They didn't want to know how bad he smelled underneath the armor
its covered in doodoo germs
no one wanted to touch that shit
Why does he eat the dung?
the guy is literally covered in shit, i aint touching that
Who was gonna take it off? You?
>Why did they hang him with his armor on?
dude is designed like a fricking baki character
lmao is that dist2
Just an average American
He's based on a very specific sub-ethnicity in japan.
they use his armor as a brazen bull
but they put him on fire later on.
see
would've been racist to do it with the armor off
/LULZ/-tier in doomer/incel mentality and shit fetishism, but strong enough to back it up
Cause he's gross
for talking shit
He ate da poopoo
What's the big deal?
Sometimes you can in fact make a joe that is too sloppy
idk I heard some kids like em extra sloppy. Hence the reasoning why I made them extra sloppy for ya'z.
ate too much dung
better yet, why was he imprisoned after being hanged
Tarnished are known to sometimes come back to life spontaneously and they wanted to be sure he was stuck if he did.
Whats his name again?
George RR Martin
The Cackling Caca Connoisseur
The depraved dooki devourer
Too stinky and icky, ain't nobody gonna deal with that. The real question is why did he let them hang him?
because he couldn't help eating shit
and we should hang all PS5 owners for the same reason
didn't take poo to loo
you couldn't give the lack text a white outline, anon?
I dont get it
Number 1 vs number two. She gonna poop.
dolls dont poop though
Fixed for both of you. God Bless.
Disgusting, fix the moronic chain popping out of nowhere
Done
I don't like the all white background in the first panel. make it the same color as the sky so it looks like he's actually there. third panel windows too maybe
No
That wojack has no ears and it bothers me, I can't use this
god bless you anon
Fixed your meme even further
he's literally me (i love my wife ranni)
I just laugh everytime I see this fukcing wojak
>I just laugh everytime I see this fukcing wojak
He should have been called the evil poopy muncher.
The description of his puppet says he "murdered thousands" which is crazy. Less of a serial killer and more of a legendary monster
wtf I love dung now
If the description is anywhere near accurate, he's probably directly responsible for most omens currently in the lands between.
He tried to defile the whole creation. Drawing-and-quartering would have been a more fitting punishment for him.
I think the implication of him being hanged with his armor is that he was set there for days or weeks until he expired, akin to crucifixion.
Oh. But imagine the smell. Shitting and pissing in his armor for days. Would he enjoy it ?
He didn't actually enjoy poop. He rips out men's souls through their ass, eats them, shits them out, and puts them back, before the man in question dies.
I wonder how long it took him to perfect this protocol.
Since when did these games become so degenerate? Glad I dropped this crap series, Fromsoft are hacks
The game isn't degenerate. It includes evil people and presents them as being exactly as horrible as you are. Literally everyone in the game that has anything to say about the man describes him as utterly irredeemable without a single positive quality, something he openly admits to. It's not like these games haven't let you be an evil misanthrope since Demon's Souls.
Excuse me, exactly as horrible as they are.
so it's a literal fricking kappa? bravo grrrummm
He poo poo pee pee’d
i will do you one better why did the grace chose the most vile being in the lands?
Tarnished revival seems to have happened in waves, with a whole bunch of people being revived at once irrespective of their nature or goals. The only person we know of that was revived specifically by choice is (you).
is anything similar in lord of the rings ? i guess saruman and the uruk hai
You think Grima Wormtongue's last name was actually Wormtongue or that the people of Rohan hated him?
Orcs are corrupted elves, one can only guess how such beautiful creatures became so ugly.
https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Dung_Eater
Didn't play Elden Ring but nothing about his lore says he ate shit so why is he called the Dung Eater? Is it possible that he was maligned by his captors after his death? He just seems to be some dude who went crazy and killed a bunch of people.
something something japanese superstition and the soul resides in the anus
according to the japanese folklore the souls is located in the anus (that's also why in sekiro the headless have a grapple move when they grab you and literally pull stuff out of your ass)
dung eater was big on desacrating souls in the most vile way possible, so he probably pulled souls out of people through their ass and PROBABLY ate them? the last part is up to speculation i think
He didn't LITERALLY eat shit, it just kinda looked like he did lmao
The term that would be helpful here is "shirikodama". It's like a magic marble that was made of your condensed soul and it was kept in your ass. Ancient Japanese beliefs said it was lusted after by all sorts of stuff like spirits and demons and shit and they'd go up your butt to rip that shit out if they had to, killing you in the process. FromSoft has slipped the concept into a handful of their games as of recent.
This isn't to be confused with kintama. Which were golden balls kept in your scrotum. Like, the ancient Japanese believed that human testicles were straight up made of gold. And sometimes they also filled the heads of bald men. Those weren't magic or anything, just straight up gold.
That being said, I see the Dung Eater less as a Shirikodama Eater and more as a Sin Eater style archetype maybe because of the strong western themes of the game? Sin Eaters were parts of rituals in the west (that we seldom talk about anymore) that entailed letting poor/homeless people into your home and making them eat food off the dead or food made from a little bit of the dead. The idea being that the sins of the dead would pass on to the poor and the homeless instead who would carry those sins so the dead could pass on into heaven unburdened by their sins. It's not practiced much anymore, but it's the inspiration for eating a ton at wakes in our modern culture. Usually the people chosen would be super desperate, so they'd be paid a very small amount in exchange for effectively dirtying their own soul on behalf of your dead loved ones. It's was a super exploitive set of rituals and afterward the poor person would be cast out of your house and treated as less clean. If someone did it enough and became a known Sin Eater they might even be moved outside a village for it. They were treated as both necessary, but filthy and less than human at times.
The Dung Eater commits the sin of growing his own Seedbed curse off the bodies of those he killed and "defiled", though. So he goes a whole step forward. I see him almost as some kind of Sin Eater who goes out of his way to sort of cultivate the sins of the dead, making them larger and stronger through killing specific people and defiling them somehow. He grows his own food with intention and that requires him to preform greater sins than just eating. He's so enamored with sin that he's going out of his way to make it stronger and bigger when he devours it. And his crimes grow as a result. And those he does it to can no longer pass on. Corrupting the natural order. Going so far beyond his purpose, he's now taking on the negative aspects of it and no one is gaining the positive aspects.
The question, at least to me, becomes more so what his "defilement" was. If his name is anything to go off of, it might've involved Eastern beliefs and taken the form of some kind of removal of the shirikodama and thus removal of the soul (potentially seen and misunderstood as Dung Eating). But it's somewhat unclear. "Defile" can mean a lot of things and in the contexts of Elden Ring it can mean even more.
If it's Sin Eating? No. The practice is surprisingly very Christian. Hell, even if we're just talking normal cannibalism, Christianity gets mighty close. "Eat of my blood and flesh" and all that. Christianity has a long proud heritage of eating or sacrificing people, dude. Maybe not dung, but that's not really all that weird when you're out there eating some dudes blood as well.
What the dung eater actually does to the soul is not explicitly stated. Given that he is called the dung eater, it's implied he eats the souls, but the victim is still alive and has their soul before they die. Therefore, what's likely that he eats the soul, shits it back out, and then puts it back.
The seedbed curse = a bunch of omen horns taints his victims so the Erdtree would not accept them back and they couldn't return to it.
>The question, at least to me, becomes more so what his "defilement" was
He raped them.
There's no indication that the dung eater or his practices ever had any positive outcome for anyone. While your idea of his behavior being inspired by sin eater ritual may be accurate, the reason that the dung eater does what he does is simple: he is at war with spirituality itself, and goes out of his way to completely ruin souls because he enjoys it.
>It's not practiced much anymore
Some israelites still do this with chickens. Everything's A-OK with G-d when you transfer all your misdeeds onto a chicken and torture it to death. They mostly just do this with money and donate it to charity now though.
The egg on their faces as they all arrive at Sheol must be priceless. Jesus probably stops by just to shake his head at them.
I mean, Christianity did it for fricking hundreds of years if not thousands, to be fair. It's called Scapegoating. Like well and proper Scapegoating, not the modern meaning of them word. You'd take a goat and transfer all the sins of your village onto it and then walk it outside the village and kill it as a sacrifice to god. In some versions you'd take two goats out and set the sinful one free so the sins would leave the village forever and sacrifice the other one. This is why a lot of early depictions of Satan involved goat parts, it was the fear that your sins would return to the village in the form of the goat you set free. I've seen some people point out that the story of Jesus is awfully close to the ritual of Scapegoating, actually. He took on the sins of the world and was killed so he would take them with him away to the other side. It's a common Western religious motif. It appears in Norse mythology, too.
i doubt thats even real. a lot of history is just fake these days. especially the edgy stuff with torture or the inquisition.
Sorry
was meant to be a reply, friend.
Because all incels get the rope eventually.
because he was black
He is the loathsome dung eater it is explained in the game why they hate him.
Why does the discord keep making these threads where they either know the answer already or the answer is explained at face value?
I really don't get this new tactic.
>Why does the discord keep making these threads where they either know the answer already or the answer is explained at face value?
It is a humiliation ritual they are forced to engage in by their mods so they will be easier to groom.
why are they throwing poopoo at him?
It was his last request.
IRL Dungeaters. Maybe they were the inspiration?
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>india
The Sabbateans/Frankists are the israeli equivalents.
And just plain ol Satanism for us westerners. Its all just inversion/chaos worship.
He eats his own feces at the end, what is the reporter eating at the beginning?
THE FRICKING FOUL SHIT EATER
They found him to be loathsome.
He was Ranni's plumber.
The gross caca enjoyer
Imagine being a tarnished warrior, who can survive being struck by gigantic demigods but the thing that kills you is a rope around your neck
Most of the tarnished were already killed and revived by Marika's grace. The mystery the other NPCs have is why would Dungeater be revived like the others?
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DIABOLIC DOO-DOO DESTROYER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CONNISEUR
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENJOYER
THE SHADY STOOL SAMPLER
THE FIENDISH FECAL FEASTER
THE WICKED WASTE WOMPER
THE DEVILISH DOO-DOO DIGESTER
THE CORRUPT CA-CA CHOMPER
THE EVIL EXCRETION ENGULFER
THE GROSS GUANO GUZZLER
THE PERVERSE POO PECKER
THE TARNISHED TURD TOSSER
Why are they all alliteration when the original isn't?
THE FEROCIOUS FECAL PHAGOCYTE
SIR GIDEON OFNIR THE ALL KNOWING
>ears and eyes
I thought it was oysters and pearls lol
>All those ears
>A chest full of eyes
>Still wasn't aware where the Albinauric woman was
ALL KNOWING MY ASS
>IMPREGNATE THE ALIBINAURIC WOMAN
What did he mean by this?
Who are the imp-like creatures surrounding him?
Play elden ring, there are imps in all the catacombs. That is Gideon's burial spot.
Has anyone found the corresponding teleportal ring the Raya Lucarian mages are using to pull the spheres up from the underground?
>there are imps in all the catacombs.
I know but they look different from the other imps and they're not hostile.
Thanks, that's very likely.
You asked what the imps were, imps are in catacombs. Stop trying to argue further moron.
No clue, but I'd wager either imp statues representing high-ranking servants or just random item holders for when he'd awaken, should the situation arise
FIND THE ALBINAURIC WOMAN
And Sir Gideon Ofnir, the all knowing...
What happens to people who can no longer pass on because of dung eater? Do they just spend eternity in stinky poopy prison?
>I will kill again. And defile each corpse with care.
>Just to be sure. That when they're reborn...
>They'll be cursed. Along with their children, and their children's children, for all time to come
oooh so he makes omens?
Not entirely clear. Kind of? He grows omen horns on corpses to achieve his goal of his victims being unable to have an Erdtree burial/return to the Erdtree.
Have you played this game? The use hanged people as decoration, go to castle morne and there's atleast 60 of the same copypasted hanged guy there alone, they just like hanging around.
THE WHOLESOME GUM EATER
Whatever he did broke the cycle of reincarnation for his victims and possibly created a spate of omen births. I'm actually surprised they just hung him for this, considering both of those actions are big fricking sins in the Lands Between.
He's wearing his armor, this wouldn't strangle him or break his neck. It was a form of crucifixion. He might have been there for a while. Then they locked his corpse away in the sewer, in case he came back to life
To this day, I don't clearly understand the nature of omens, the dung eater, or his curse. Feels like it's on the tip of my tongue but some detail is missing. It also doesn't help that, for a long time, I assumed omens were connected to misbegotten, mostly because of the animal-like features that morgott and mohg have. I mean, they still might be connected. It's all surprisingly mysterious
all i know is that Omens are denied the grace of the erdtree and are thus shunned by society and that the Dungeater wants to put a curse on every being
>It also doesn't help that, for a long time, I assumed omens were connected to misbegotten
Don't forget the Formless Mother :^)
I'm not convinced the formless mother influenced any omens besides mohg and morgott. They're the only two people in the game who have bloodflame powers, other omens don't seem to. Though, I'm sure their omen nature lended itself to connecting with the mother. Apparently the connection made mohg love his cursed blood/birth, if I understand the phrasing correctly in the description of Bloodboon
My interpretation of the lore, from what I can understand, is that the omens, the misbegotten, and demi-humans were connected to some sort of primordial world tree which either became or was supplanted by the Erdtree. This primordial tree was known as "The Crucible" and seemed to be a melting pot of biological life, which is why beings associated with it look like hybrid beings, and why the Crucible Knights have an array of animalistic abilities.
It's not exactly clear what happened, but when the Golden Order had arisen, these beings who were not a part of this order were shunned or subjugated. My guess is that the Crucible tree was once responsible for the formation of all organic life, but then the Erdtree became the dominant power and suppressed these features, creating/uplifting baseline humanity as the dominant species/form of life. But just like with the darksign in DS, this seal isn't perfect, and sometimes these "mutations" leak out and create omen children, who are probably the natural state of man (Miyazaki loves this theme of man's true nature being that of monsters).
As for the Dungeater, if you look past his insanity, my guess is that he wants to restore the natural order of things before the Erdtree and the cycle of rebirths. I believe his method is to "curse" people away from the clutches of the Erdtree, and return man to the omen form.
Kek why do they do this? Why waste time typing it?
Some guy asked a lore question and I pitched in my two cents. Are you moronic?
>2 trees bullshit
but why post it when you know people will make fun of you and call you a discord troon like usual?
Because I'm not afraid of some homosexual Gankeredditor calling me a troon over a video game that's very open to interpretation.
>>2 trees bullshit
If you read the description of root resin, it says this:
"Resin secreted from the roots of the Great tree. Material used in crafting items. The roots of the Great tree drive far and wide through the earth of the Lands Between. They were once entwined with the roots of the Erdtree, or so they say."
Notice how "Great tree" and "Erdtree" are used separately as the GT was once entwined with the roots of the ET.
The Deathroot description says this:
"On the night of the dire plot the stolen Rune of Death enabled the first Death of a demigod. Later, the Rune of Death spread across the Lands Between through the underground roots of the Greattree, sprouting in the form of Deathroot."
So the roots of this Great Tree are underground throughout the Lands Between. Now I am willing to eat the crow if this all happens to be a translation error from the Jap script, but no one has come forward yet with evidence that this is mistranslated, so I have to assume that there are two world trees that were once in existence.
kek look at it waste it's time on shit we all know is wrong.
It looks like a mental illness.
The omens are not like the misbegotten and demihumans, they have an actual curse associated with the formless mother, it is not a natural or ancient form. The dung eater spreads this curse not because he likes the crucible, but because he hates everyone and everything other than himself.
Yea. On top of this, dung eater's perspective on it is strange, though. He's intensely spiteful and phrases his actions in a very hateful and negative way. And the process of his curse is indeed really brutal and horrifying just to witness. He's not an omen, but altered his armor so he resembles not just an omen, but one with its horns cruelly cut off. It's hard to get a gauge on his real perspective and intentions
>It's hard to get a gauge on his real perspective and intentions
Wow just like me.
He hates life itself. His "curse" is when he rapes you so bad you accept his position is correct, that is the seedbed curse planted in the victim. Like an info hazard, they don't want to know what they know now but they know it and it infects their soul.
He mindbreaks their soul into seeing his perspective, and it ruins them.
What? There is absolutely nothing to back this up, is there?
Not him, but we don't have to assume that every named Tarnished has some grand motive behind their actions and Dung Eater is the best example of a guy that simply hates everything and shit's on life.
Yes. He says he does it so the erdtree won't accept them and it would end the erdtree cycle. You find the seedbed curses on people that have been tortured to death. He wakes them up to the ills of the GO so they can't hide from it in bliss and it scars their souls.
The dude has a fricking ending attached to his quest lol.
Omens are born with cursed souls, which for some reason causes the growth of strange horns. Dung Eater emulates the process with his defilement and seedbed curse.
The wraith caller bell, which the omen bairns are stronger versions of and Dung Eater uses, provides the key to understanding what omens are. The sewer omens even breathe out wraiths like fire.
Crucible involvement in this is questionable and I don't think the Formless Mother was involved with many omens beyond Morgott and Mogh. No omen-related items mention either, and things actually corrupted by the Formless Mother tend to show different symptoms like bloodflame, blood sacks, red skin and spike shooting, etc.
I get the impression omens are just something that exists on their own without any outer god meddling.
Because he is a serial killer that literally ass-fists men to death. Which is not only insane but gay, too. Not sure which is worse
The OP is full of visuals don't really make much sense within the lore like Morgott beating Radahn or Godfrey being nailed to a tree. That dude was more powerful than most demigods, what the frick is out there that can do him in that badly? The world will never know.
I think that instance of Morgott being on par with Radahn makes sense though.
Morgott is supposed to be strong considering he kept the capital defended even when fighting against invaders, like Radahn or Malenia, in some way most of Marika's direct offspring should all be on the same power level, regardless of how difficult the fight itself was, which is just player's headcannon.
Prime Radahn and Prime Malenia fought and were both on par for the most part. Malenia humilliated Godfrey. Morgot was able to fend off invaders. I think Rykard was implied to get eaten by the snake after he was defeated or after Volcano Manor was invaded, but we don't have much info of his pre-vore abilities.
Its hunged you stupid twat.
he smelled like shit
who defeated his ass, just sent a bunch of dudes
or was it godfrey
When the tarnished were alive they were just some guys. Hoarah Loux is the only one who actually did any fighting.
What do you mean? The original tarnished were literally godfrey and his entire army with which he conquered the lands between in the name of marika and the erdtree. When their job was done, marika took grace from them, and the gold faded from their eyes. When the game takes place, all tarnished are either original members of the army or their descendants.
He went around murdering people and defiling their corpses. And eating shit.
poo poo pee pee
Are you saying it's not real because it's inconvenient and doesn't conform with your world view so you'd prefer to remain ignorant? Or are you saying it's fake because you legitimately believe that because you have proof and are willing to explain? At the end of the day, it does no one any good to ignore the truth if it's unpleasant. It's best to look into the past with eyes wide open, prepared to see the darkness for what it truly is, inconvenient or not, Anon. Steady thyself and learn from the things that don't conform to your world view, don't simply deny them because you don't like them. If they're real, then so be it. Our world is painful and our past is no different. To deny it is to deny God's creation. To choose ignorance is the ultimate sin.
Why are people throwing shit at him? Wouldn't he enjoy that?
Why this homie look so ZESTY?
down syndrome lookin ahh
what's the phenotype here? It's like his head was made specifically for optimizing shit eating
>Why did they hang him?
For being a homosexual.
>Ancient Egyptians
Soul is in your heart
>Ancient greeks
Soul is in your head
>Ancient Japanese
Soul is in your Anus
??????????????
Island isolation produces eccentricity. Little outside influence to temper and correct insanity.
Root chakra, homosexuality and sodomy are an assault on the soul. Greeks said it was in the head because it was farthest away from the anus and they really wanted to buttfrick eachother. Egyptians watched the pharaoh jack off into a river and then all the men would gather and do the same, so they're gay at heart but not in body.
>egypt
Probably associating the heart and the blood pumping with "life energy"
>japan
Maybe they had a lot of cases of dysentery and after a lot of people died from shitting themselves to death they just assumed that they shitted their lives away so soul=inside anus
Honestly i dont get the greeks, sure you die without your head but its the same without your heart.
>Greeks said it was in the head because it was farthest away from the anus and they really wanted to buttfrick eachother
I guess this makes sense
To be serious though, greeks thought of the human as an inverted plant. Plant originate and root from below, then grow upwards with their reproductive organs on top in the light. Humans start from the brain their body grows down where their reproductive organs are hidden in the shade.
Thus to the hyper rational greeks, it was the head. Eastern yoga teaches that humans are the same as a plant, with the sexual force being what generates a persons vital energy that allows them to exert their will. Thus for the spiritual eastern world, the head was the creative fruit that allows them to act on the world.
>organ in your anus
The prostate?
In doesn't equal near. The prostate isn't located in the anus.
buttholes = Infinite Void/Nothingness
I have an actual thing to discuss:
Why does the bloodhound knight set look like the tree sentinel set scavanged? Put the tree sentinel knight legs on the bloohound chest it is the same armor set, and the actual tree sentinel chest doesn't look like it matches the legs as well.
The only difference is the bloodhound set is faded and old, but it has literally the same filigree and design.
Because he raped people. The Dung Eater is spreading the omen curse as a pox to destroy the Erdtree, likely due to losing a kid to the Omen curse, after his/her horns were severed. At least that's what the design of his armor tells me. He is the Man on Fire of Elden Ring, except he is on Shit
what was his fricking problem
In real life this guy would have been incinerated or chopped into little pieces just for claiming to be able to do the stuff he did in game.
Because he ate poopoo out of people's arses, Leyndell is a very homophobic place.
What race is this?
Grog
TransOmen
He went to the Poop Deli and didnt pay for his skidmark sub
Spyro wondering where his best customer went.