Why did they remove all the RPG elements in Fallout 4?

Why did they remove all the RPG elements in Fallout 4?

You can't even fix it with mods, the problem goes as deep as the story, dialogue, and all settings and characters. It's a first-person shooter, like Doom.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So play a different game

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do you think? modern amazon/microsoft fans don't give a single frick about rpg elements or lore or anything that represents what Fallout is about. And in the end, they end up having fun with these mediocre games. In a way I envy their moronation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Quit projecting your hate onto random people, time and fricking time again it has been proven that ANYTHING can be popular if it's good enough.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dinner Bell kinda sucks tbh. I'd prefer a fully upgraded hunting shotgun over it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      install moddable unique weapons
      problem solved

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what if i don't like the pattern on dinner bell

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every shotgun fricking sucks in NV

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah man, shotgun surgeon + and stay back can take down a lot of shit. You gotta make your own buckshot though, the ones that reduce the projectiles from 7 to 4, while increasing damage. So each pellet will punch through armor more. Or just use slugs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah man, shotgun surgeon + and stay back can take down a lot of shit. You gotta make your own buckshot though, the ones that reduce the projectiles from 7 to 4, while increasing damage. So each pellet will punch through armor more. Or just use slugs.

        I appreciate the ammo variety for shotguns
        I can cruise through OWB no problem with just a shotgun with slugs for lobotomies and pulse slugs for robots

        what if i don't like the pattern on dinner bell

        you should because that pattern is cool and Dinner Bell does pretty good damage for me irl

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It your girlfriend a redhead?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >girlfriend
            very funny anon

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because being a looter shooter was always the goal for bethesda. NV added traits back in just for F4 to kill skills

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I usually have to mod FO4 to beyond recognition in order to remotely enjoy it.
    Not in the meme way where you normally pack your average Bethesda game with mods but just because the vanilla content is so ass.

    Even despite heavily modifying it to be more in line with previous entries, that doesn't change what it is below the hood. Regardless, I'm overdue to finish the America Rising mod. Went like 60+% through it and lost my motivation to keep playing. I just wish to finish it at this point as I await Fallout London, which will likely be a better Fallout 4 than what we got.

    Either case, Fallout 4 is just the Skyrim of the Fallout games. Bottom of the barrel, easy to grasp slop that's edible enough to amass a large fanbase who enjoy superficial nothing.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's not an rpg. I'm glad they removed skills because most of them fricking sucked in 3/nv

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i found every single snowglobe without looking up where they were

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fix it with Horizon

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sad there were no unique hunting revolvers blowing heads with crits on everyone with this thing at any range was the best.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Explosives or pyro build?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pyro gets you what? just gehenna, incendiary grenades, flamer, incinerator, and dragons breath shotgun shells?
      explosives get you all of the grenades plus explosive .50 rounds, plus the grenades rifles 40mm and 25mm, and the grenade machinegun

      you could even double up with shotguns and RP as a grenadier

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wouldn't a grenadier use like a rifle, or SMG?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well then call it a shock troop or CQC specialist then
          either way explosives + shotgun = fun

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RP elements? Lemme tell you a story: In FO3 my girlfriend told me I should get the Cyborg perk because it's perfect for my build. I told her I didn't want that because my character isn't a cyborg. She literally scoffed, and said, "It doesn't actually make you a cyborg it doesn't change your character at all it just gives you perks!"

    I said no. Because my character is not a fricking cyborg.

    The RP elements in these games were shit long before Fallout 4. And none of you actually give a shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your gf's not wrong. that's how i play too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your gf's not wrong
        So I am often told. But I think becoming a cyborg should have some consequence to your character identity. It's an rpg, my idea of my character is important, that's not autism that's part of the genre

        It really is just a weird perk. Like Implant GRX. Suddenly you just developed augmentations?

        Right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're not wrong either. that's the point of those things. i just have a hard time seeing them as that. it's not like i'll see my char as a cyborg just because i took a cyborg perk. that doesn't make any sense to me

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you're roleplaying though, you would tell Moira to frick off when she tells you to walk in a minefield or cripple yourself. Did you do that? Huh?!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would do that and then blow her brains out after finding out that all that shit I did for her does not allow access to that sweet musty wastelander pussy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you have a GF!!!!!! don't SAY that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, I accepted. Because I thought it was funny that my lone wanderer, who gets into dangerous situations all the time since leaving the vault, would agree to be this girl's guinea pig to "help people" and become increasingly exasperated with each hare brained and practically suicidal request. And anyway, 20 dollars is 20 dollars, right?

            Stop posting right now and just go hug your gf anon

            She asked if I'm okay, told her Ganker told me to, she was amused.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >your gf's not wrong
              So I am often told. But I think becoming a cyborg should have some consequence to your character identity. It's an rpg, my idea of my character is important, that's not autism that's part of the genre

              [...]
              Right?

              RP elements? Lemme tell you a story: In FO3 my girlfriend told me I should get the Cyborg perk because it's perfect for my build. I told her I didn't want that because my character isn't a cyborg. She literally scoffed, and said, "It doesn't actually make you a cyborg it doesn't change your character at all it just gives you perks!"

              I said no. Because my character is not a fricking cyborg.

              The RP elements in these games were shit long before Fallout 4. And none of you actually give a shit.

              Go get the fallout nv co op mod and play with her anon
              It's supported by the problem nucleus co op too so you can even co op with just 1 pc

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop posting right now and just go hug your gf anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really is just a weird perk. Like Implant GRX. Suddenly you just developed augmentations?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now that I think about it why do flechette shells have a bonus against DT?
    they are a bunch of tiny steel darts with little mass
    they should be ideal against the lightly armored and unarmored instead

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't know what an RPG element is

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bethesda wanted to sell the series to the cawadooty dudebro audience and not the fricking RPG fans that actually give a shit about it so they lobotomized all the depth out of the series. part of me wants to hope that now they're under microwiener who ALSO already owns fricking cod that maybe the series can go back to being good again but after all the studio purging MS just did I somehow fricking doubt it. fallouts either going to stay a shitty looter shooter with minimal RPG trappings or just be shelved forever and I honestly think the latter would be the better outcome

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want to sell copies to console gamers and console gamers are moronic and have limited controls.
    See also:
    >Deus Ex
    >Call of Duty
    >im city
    >Command and conquer
    >dragon age 2
    >Mass Effect
    >Xcom
    >Frankly even fallout 3 suffered from this
    Console trannies will seethe in the replies but it's true, for 20 years this shit has been going on.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lust provoking image
    i sex these two every playthrough

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can sex the vault 22 girl?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >vault 22
        who? I only know of Vault 21's Sarah Weintraub

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't vault 22 the one with the plant zombies?

          oh right, my bad

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There was that ghoul scientist lady that was there. I don't think you can have sex with her either.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              she had a great rack, raspy b***h

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't vault 22 the one with the plant zombies?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Graham can't have sex, he has a burnt pp 🙁

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pics or youre a liar

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >my idea for a build is optimization
    or
    >my idea for a build is immersion

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very well put. I also don't wear the best armor for that reason.

      [...]
      [...]
      Go get the fallout nv co op mod and play with her anon
      It's supported by the problem nucleus co op too so you can even co op with just 1 pc

      She loves Fallout so I'll keep it in mind, thank you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I end up with some cross between the two types of builds

        >hired hitman with the Professional, House's right hand man
        >chem addict raider with all the Melee and Unarmed perks working for Caesar

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