Also I don't like the crafting systems anymore, and it feels like orb crafting -which was one of the things I really liked about the game because it was actually unique - got completely gutted. I wish they reduced the number of tiers for each mod so we could more reliably orb craft, and I also wish there was less loot overall in the game, and that the game was slower overall (combat wise).
I still remember when it was not uncommon to end act 3 with mostly blue items. Now you end act 1 usually completely yellow. The game is still fun though, and I will definitely play 2 because of the socket changes. I like a lot of things like delve and so on, for me it's just the itemization that really needs a big overhaul. For reference, I started playing when dominus came out.
I didn't like instilling orbs either and was VERY disappointed when I learned about them. Problem I have with them is that they're something you can use in place of something BETTER you could've used, so it's basically like >Oh, you don't like flasks? Ok, well, here's a solution so you don't have to work with flasks as much. Oh and for the people who do like flasks, we're just going to make them more powerful, but you don't get that 🙂
I just fundamentally think the flask system is shit
>reduced the number of tiers
But then you might accidentally get something good. >flasks
Just get mageblood :^)
Honestly, just think about how shit your game has to be when there are entire channels making a living of posting compilations of people getting lucky doing the most basic stuff.
What reducing the number of tiers would do as well is make divine orbs better.
so why is Ganker mad that a developer actively fricks over casuals?
>so why is Ganker mad that a developer actively fricks over casuals?
That's a really poor read on all of this. If anything crafting is great for casual players, and I don't want it in the game. Read
>nerfing everything but buffing mobs >archnemesis instead of yellows (which they have removed by now) >Pseudo skill diversity which ultimately results in playing the same 5 skills for multiple seasons now >Reducing overall currency drop rates due to muh mechanics >Dumbing down the skill tree resulting in streamlined paths >Performance gets worse season by season even with a good pc (That shit grinds my gears the most) >QA is done by players, not internally >3rd party programms necessary to even START to play the game PROPERLY >Campaign gets dull after you've cleared it a 100 times (even if it only takes like 2 to 3 hours to go through it becomes a chore) >SSF is a meme >You mostly don't find items, but currency to get items for YOUR build as most stuff cannot be target-farmed >Getting off-screen'd is now a difficulty instead of the exception (inb4 gitgud eat shit) >Trading is still so ass since the flesh-cap argues that it is impossible to take away a new and improved way, but then guts most of the players power which is ok. >No reason to alt anymore >No new chase items (Muh mageblood boring design) >endgame bosses are not rewarding by themselves, grind them a 1000 times to get that one item which is devalued after week 1 anyways >BUGS ABOVE BUGS which are not getting fixxed for years, example: Conqueror's fights and Sirus >Skills balanced to fit skin sales (Can't blame them there, as it is a business) >Boring and samey seasons for a while now >Party play impossible due to shit performance (now nerfed anyways so who gives a shit, also a reason why homosexuals like that hungarian wienermongler left)
>inb4 gitgud homosexual
6k hours in that dumpster fire of a game, cleared everything that was to clear multiple times
At least the atlas skill tree is cool as i can focus on stuff i want to do, problem is only that it is most likely gutted as it doesn't fit the streamer meta
Frick GGG
>nerfing everything but buffing mobs
This is false. The game has been on a powercreep ramp for a long long time now, but people like this still cry for more accessibility and GGG keeps giving it to them, gutting the itemization in the process. Items are the flesh and blood of this game, and they're in a really bad state.
Revisionist history
Oh yea they buffed everything for years and suddenly they're taking away stuff.
Itemization has been the same for ever now only that they took away base skills from some ascendancies and put them onto gear.
That shift in power doesn't mean jack shit, only that it takes longer to get there. It is not false at all.
A company is not your friend
>This is false. The game has been on a powercreep ramp for a long long time now,
Shut the frick up, people always make this shit argument and its wildly untrue. >nooo powercreep though, see we added an influence mod and made t1 rolls better and blahblahblah a million extreme high end things
Powercreep at the low end? On the tree? On gems? Doesn't exist, never gets added.
The power creep is all "aspirational" dogshit that nobody generally gets, so it doesn't functionally exist and cannot ever be used as any kind of argument to justify buffing monsters or nerfing accessible power.
Remember when dominous and malachai were hard bosses who could actually kill you? These days a beginner can go through acts 1 - 5 without a chest piece.
>reduced the number of tiers
But then you might accidentally get something good. >flasks
Just get mageblood :^)
Honestly, just think about how shit your game has to be when there are entire channels making a living of posting compilations of people getting lucky doing the most basic stuff.
>Also I never liked flasks.
same
thank god for instilling orbs
but the period before you get a full set of auto flasks is fricking awful
What did they do to flasks?
My mouse has 3 clicks(technically 4 with mousewheell) and I just macrod them all with a small random few millisecond delay between each press which I know was technically against TOS but frick pianoing flasks
you can enchant them to automatically activate on certain conditions, most people use "When flask charges reach full" which fully automates them and you don't have to piano any more
>it's fun until I clear the Atlas once and my gear is too good for random rares to be upgrades anymore.
this is where i usually get stuck too though i do a bit of syndicate and metamod crafting to get some good stuff
but after that the upgrades come so few and far between i usually just reroll or quit
>Also I never liked flasks. >most coveted item in the game just makes flask permanent items and it's coveted because it just fixes their dogshit designed system
genuine incompetent designers
Surprised they aren't selling "officially approved" macros.
You buy it and it opens up an option in the config to bind several keys to a single button. Of course the max is 4 binds, because FRICK YOU.
>and it feels like orb crafting -which was one of the things I really liked about the game because it was actually unique - got completely gutted.
Orb crafting is some 3 IQ slot machine moron shit
>aurastack or get oneshot(you will get oneshot anyway) >lets nerf every fun build to the ground so people have to play rf or trapper for the 4th league in a row
I hate how PoE handles auras, I wish they were more like curses where you had to explicitly build to have one and your starting count was zero. No one really has to go out of their way to run one or two auras on their character so every build winds up having one.
An aura cap would actually be really cool. Mana reservation is an awful design in its current state. Literally every build has to stack reservation efficiency to fit all the auras while your mana pool is mostly irrelevant. You shouldn't be able to just reserve all your mana minus the cost of using your main skill once with no drawbacks. Having 20 unreserved mana doesn't affect 99% of builds, since you can just use an enduring potion if somehow you can't outregen your casts. Having an excess of mana beyond that is useless, since even if you do run into the only source of mana drain in the game, you can just blood magic dash out.
If you really need to keep the mechanic, reservation efficiency needs to be removed and/or reservation should also reduce all sources of mana regeneration by a percentage based on total reservation, so you can't just reserve 95% of your mana and still cast your damage skill at full speed without some serious investment in mana regen or blood magic.
have you ever played a build which needs a lot of buttons? it fricking sucks ass
make a bfbb character and see how much you want engaging multi button gameplay
bf, bb, focus, withering step, plague bearer, mark/curse, shield dash, travel skill, vms
>have you ever played a build which needs a lot of buttons? it fricking sucks ass
Because their designers are incompetent >oh hey you can use the second bar and rebind the buttons
okay cool that's a start, but now what happens when you need to actually see the cooldowns and availability of more than 8 skills >idk i guess lol
Their ui is fricking atrocious
Too much bloat and the last like 5? legaues have had next to no balance changes, so the same skills are in the meta while the rest are just garbage.
Every single map you do can have like 12 different past league mechanics on it causing your map to take 8~10 minutes depending on what you get instead of 1~2. Some of them are mandatory if you want to make any form of currency as well. You have to build your atlas super specifically and farm this SINGLE thing to have any chance at acquiring drops that are worth a shit.
There's virtually no reason to pick up random rares on the floor once you're beyond them. They don't sell, they don't get rolled well. All you do is filter anything below i84?87? and certain bases, and that only matters if you intend to do the arduous task of crafting them. PoE crafting is god awful and they keep making it worse.
It takes 2+ trades to buy divines with chaos due to divines being close to 300c the past few leagues, ever since they replaced exalts.
Exalts are now virtually worthless, nobody really even uses them as they're way too RNG based to be worth it.
The MTX is predatory and way too expensive to be worth it, and that's coming from someone who has spent 1k+ usd on it. I'm a gay. It's not worth it AT ALL.
The game does NOT reward your time unless you intend to input streamer-tier hours, i'm talking 12+ hours a day, for at the very least a third of the league.
Making alts is ridiculously time consuming unless you learn to speedrun the campaign, and even then for a moderately decent time that's still 5~8 hours of just purely leveling a character. Then there's having to do labs all over again every character.
Next you're gated by either getting lucky with currency, drops, or getting lucky with fusings because 6 linking your chest/weapon is absolutly required to do any form of end game content or high maps for the average player. (No, you with 1k+ hours, you're not the average player.)
>Every single map you do can have like 12 different past league mechanics
fix your atlas
>There's virtually no reason to pick up random rares on the floor once you're beyond them. They don't sell, they don't get rolled well.
you're in red maps and dont need gear anymore shocking you dont pick up everything. you wanting PERFECT items =/= bad rares
>PoE crafting is god awful and they keep making it worse.
harvest was a mistake now shitters like you want perfect items all the time
>It takes 2+ trades to buy divines with chaos due to divines being close to 300c the past few leagues, ever since they replaced exalts.
so? this is just b***hing to b***h
>Exalts are now virtually worthless, nobody really even uses them as they're way too RNG based to be worth it.
slam israeliteels/clusters/eyes all the time so does my guild
>The MTX is predatory and way too expensive to be worth it, and that's coming from someone who has spent 1k+ usd on it.
nibba its fricking cosmetics, only thing you NEED is a money tab thats 10$. how you gunna be mad when you're the moron spending money?
>The game does NOT reward your time unless you intend to input streamer-tier hours
league lasts 3-4 months, why is it weird a dungeon crawling game expects you to farm and play it to get rewards
>Making alts is ridiculously time consuming unless you learn to speedrun the campaign, Then there's having to do labs all over again every character.
confirmed not played in years, it should take you 4, if you played the game you should know the acts.
>6 linking your chest/weapon is absolutely required to do any form of end game content or high maps for the average player.
you can do all content with a 5link
only correct thing you posted was same meta for 5 leagues but your post just screams "i look at the subreddit all the time to get mad instead of playing"
You are a neet, for sure. I know your kind. You made the game your job and obsession, with 90 hours weekly play time, calling it not time intensive. Bet you are going to come back with muh handed everything on a silver plate immediately.
>nooo grinding is all the same, there are no levels of it and its all fine
moron. huge swathes of games are 'grinding' games, how come they manage to be fun, engaging and rewarding for your time spent grinding and poe fails miserably? because the grind isn't eternal, the grind rewards you constantly and not once in a blue moon.
holy frick i can grind in d2 and get more good drops in a week than grinding in poe will give you in 3 months.
i can boot up disgaea 5 and grind to my hearts content, and have fun doing it because it's not a fricking slot machine with worse odds than all of vegas combined lmao.
defending this shitheap company is laugable
You're right, that's why I quit. I had to constantly grind, download 3p shit, deal with c**ts and buttholes, do the same in trade, reroll bad maps, die to bullshit, and replay campaign+trials over and over and over again.....to START to have fun.
I realized the game sucked wiener because I couldn't even really start to play it until I hit level 95 and put several exalts into gear to havea decent build, and by then I had struggled into red maps and was gated by drops for end game content.
There was zero point, no satifaction. I realized it was basically like a job where I grinded my life away to enjoy it only at the end, if that. And then I thought "why the frick am I doing this, I could be grinding the slots/markets/jobs IRL and actually have a life worth living while I play actual fun games on the side.
So I quit and never looked back.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is probably how everyone left the maze.
After a long hiatus, I tried the endless delve event, and my entire friend list from the early days is dead except for one freak.
Can't imagine ever really getting back to it.
Oh, it's that mazed moron NEET from the general, you really go around defending bald fricking moron's diarrhea mess all day when you're not playing poopsock, the game, huh? >unironically defending trade in this game
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
lol
>still acts like a MAZED moronic loser who slobs on BFR's bald knob >thinks he has any room to brag
lmao, play a game that requires skill or is actually good, you're hopelessly addicted to a fake casino.
I realized that Diablo clones are all pretty fricking boring numbers games. I'd rather spend my time with a game that has an actual skill ceiling than one that is all about understanding how to exploit poorly implemented mechanics.
>I got my headhunter and mageblood so I got bored. Chris is entirely correct about not giving the player what they really want.
moron, out of the 50% of the launch playerbase that quit in under a week, how many got magebloods? shockingly, looks like almost none and yet they all still quit. curious huh, really makes you think.
I always play solo and I make like 4-6 div an hour minimum farming something I feel like farming. Simulacrums and whathaveyou. It's not like it takes that long if you just sit down and farm. 4 divs and hour and you'll have 200 in 5 days if you play 10 hours a day.
>I always play solo and I make like 4-6 div an hour minimum farming something I feel like farming
Oh its one of these homosexuals who sells everything in the world and pretends that's normal lmao. "yeah i have nothing left to actually play the game, i sold all my maps and everything, but i have currency okay, no i wont factor in the time i have to spend pricing and trading all this garbage to my math, and no i wont factor in the actual time playing a character on launch up to the point where i can actually farm wave 30 simulacrums and have the currency already to buy them in bulk"
1 year ago
Anonymous
What the frick are you talking about?
>Oh its one of these homosexuals who sells everything in the world and pretends that's normal lmao
You won't make a profit if you don't sell things? >"yeah i have nothing left to actually play the game, i sold all my maps and everything
What are you talking about? What do you need to play the game? Just sell all your scarabs EXCEPT the ones you're going to use? Just don't sell the maps you want to run? >no i wont factor in the time i have to spend pricing and trading all this garbage to my math
You can use a tool to price your entire fossil/whatever stash tab in 10 seconds and then you just x0,8 the price and it sells instantly. >and no i wont factor in the actual time playing a character on launch up to the point where i can actually farm wave 30 simulacrums and have the currency already to buy them in bulk"
Getting to the point where I can farm what I want to farm takes me 2 weeks tops. In Expedition I had a HH on week 2 just by doing the logbooks because people were too fricking stupid to realize they printed money, or were just too stupid to run them at all.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I bet he's one of those "on paper" gays who makes spreadsheets of his drops but never actualy gets anyone to buy his shit at the prices he envisions if at all.
>Dude, people are getting them in a week by autistically farming cards and doing harvest cloning.
And for every person that gets one that way, you have dozens that fail to get one, do you not understand? Lol
>play bleedquake leap slam jugg in ritual >be absolute god >fun as frick to hop into a pack, slam, leap away >they basically gut the entire build AND earthquake itself into the absolute ground and ever since then slams have been dog ass
I'm pretty mad. I love the slam playstyle. Oneshotting bosses with tec slam was great fun. Pretty much everyone will tell you 3.13 and 3.14 were fantastic, 3.14 being less so, but man 3.13 was great.
Same, I played an EQ jugg that did like 6 million damage a hit with a blue axe, the build wasn't flawless but it was fun and required next to no gear. And then they shitted up slams across the board, removing like 60% of the build's damage in one swoop.
>did you run grace/determination/defiance banner? >is your max res 80? >do you have maxed chaos res? >are you ailment immune? >do you have good recovery? >what about spell suppression? >corpse removal?
if you answered no to any of the above, good luck. oh, and the list will continue to expand further down the road so expect more 1 shots. Meanwhile, would you like a mystery box for $2?
a smart person would realize you need all of that because players keep wanting powercreep and layering threats is the only thing that can kill a player nowadays.
An idiot looks at all of that and goes "wow, I cant believe I needa ll of this" while a normal person goes "wtf the game allows you to have a bunch of armor, evasion, 80% elemental resistance and 75% chaos resistance, immunity to ailments, high regen, and 50% less spell damage taken???"
>a smart person would realize you need all of that because players keep wanting powercreep and layering threats is the only thing that can kill a player nowadays.
yes. >An idiot looks at all of that and goes "wow, I cant believe I needa ll of this" while a normal person goes "wtf the game allows you to have a bunch of armor, evasion, 80% elemental resistance and 75% chaos resistance, immunity to ailments, high regen, and 50% less spell damage taken???"
no. you don't understand.
you NEED as in REQUIRE
max resist
defensive aura
large health pool
ailment immunity if not mitigation
AND an extra defensive layer of either MOM or suppression or block
just so you DONT get one shot in juiced end game content if not some bosses.
and that's crazy. that's absolutely crazy. getting killed fast is fine. perfectly acceptable.
getting deleted off screen or by surprise. is NEVER ok.
>ur stupid if you recognize that you need 20 million defensive layers to not die in one hit >u even dumberer if you realize you still die in two hits with all this and offense zoom zoom is the only real counter to it
loooooooooooool
Loved it when it had more of a sandbox approach and didn't cater to neets and streamers exclusively. Nobody likes games that increase grind every six months to never seen heights. Frick them and let them die.
The problem is that Chris wants it to be a game you can play forever. If you get over the initial hurdle but leave with under 1k hours he's doing things very wrong.
As i get higher wages and busier my brain cannoy take the amount of bloat that is in poe anymore. I actually went back to diablo3 and enjoy chilling with my thorn build. Surprisingly chat still have some ppl left and they were always kind and helpful like some sort of diablo greybeards.
The main reason is that my PC can't run the game anymore.
Other than that, I think they tipped their hand with the nerfs these last few leagues. They're not incompetent, they just really, really hate (You) for playing their game.
Skill balance mostly. There's no reason to have 200 skills if you want 195 of them to feel like shit, even with gear.
Chris is trying to make this game into something that never existed (somehow he thinks Diablo 2 was a hardcore game and he should emulate that fictional version of that game)
Yep exactly. It's a single player game first and foremost but for reasons unknown they really want to control the power of skills that are being used.
Maybe they think that all the gauntlet races etc. are the way to make PoE even more popular (through esports) and that requires this heavy handed balancing, but that's just moronic. people who like this genre of games already found PoE, games of this type have some specific requirements on the players for them to enjoy (mostly people who have lots of free time and the will to grind)
>but for reasons unknown they really want to control the power of skills that are being used
Reasons are well known, they want player to spend more time playing per league, because bald moron thinks it translates to more revenue. He sees player clearing content of 3 month league in 3 weeks and quitting as personal affront and business failure. This is further aggraveted by them not looking at any players except twitch streamers who play poe as full time job.
Moreover, they are not even trying to be subtle with this and solve fine balance between player's power and player's willingness to play this shit to maximize related metrics, they are extremely brash and heavy-handed in their attempts. 3.15, update that signified game passing its peak and beginning of its death, was described as "we intend to reduce player speed by 40%". If you have eyes you should see the attempt to slap insulting 40% MORE modifier on all padding in the game, and therefore player time per league. However they absurdly overestimated just how much people are addicted to their clicker, and as a result whole thing crashed and burned.
Bald moron unironically reads asiatic game design papers, which tell him that players quite game if they enjoy it, and that player must be eternally frustrated for maximum monetary gains. It seems that he actually believes those papers.
GGG gradually became one of those companies which hate their customer, but at the same time feel entitled to his money.
See, you're already whipped into shape like a b***h by GGG. Why should I only have 4 months for this content? Please, tell me, what benefit to me as a player is there in removing old leagues?
I can make that decision myself without being forced into it by daddy publisher. You are actively arguing for less control for yourself. You are a mental cuckold.
Game was already tedious and felt like you were constantly battling the different timewaste systems of the devs, then 3.15 happened which considerably slowed down the player progression while also increasing timewaste systems instead of cutting down on it.
That's when I left, it became way too tedious and felt pointless unless you can and want to no-life it.
Path of Exile has been developed in a way to appeal to elite players and streamers for the last 5-7 years. Game has been bloated beyond recognition. It's not longer a video game but a life-style. This is not to say that it can't be played casually but then you have to come to terms you will not be able to complete end game content and you might not even see some of the current leagues content as well.
Game got bloated, I got older. I cannot justify playing it for 200h for first 2 weeks of the game if I want to be successful.
Game as a lifestyle fits quite well considering how much time they are asking you to put in to get anywhere. And then all the shenanigans like third party software and so on surrounding the game that suckers out time from you again.
I forgot to mention that. Game goes out of its way to be obtuse and to hide information from players. In game information is non-existant, patch notes are bare at best. You should not depend on goodwill from community to data mine your game and to keep up to date wiki and use that as base line knowledge.
If PoE community did not have so many passionate fans the game would be dead long ago. I couldn't imagine playing the game without 3rd party tools like PoB, program for trade and lua scripts.
It seems that GGG is riding their wave until first serious competitor emerges, baring that competitor does not shoot themself into the foot with P2W garbage.Sadly, that excludes all Asian developers in start.
absolutely, if you aren't jumping into the league playing the "OP" league starter of the season you are going to have a bad time, either through the league mechanic being a bad match or somehow someway your build got hit by the nerfbat, through items, gems, or even skills directly.
it honestly baffles me.... instead of "taking away" aka nerfing every season. why doesn't GGG "encourage" a certain build or playstyle each season with buffs/items/upgrades then the following season if the buffs were too much then bring them down a bit while simultaneously promoting another playstyle.
>play bleedquake leap slam jugg in ritual >be absolute god >fun as frick to hop into a pack, slam, leap away >they basically gut the entire build AND earthquake itself into the absolute ground and ever since then slams have been dog ass
I'm pretty mad. I love the slam playstyle. Oneshotting bosses with tec slam was great fun. Pretty much everyone will tell you 3.13 and 3.14 were fantastic, 3.14 being less so, but man 3.13 was great.
Went to shit after Ritual league.
for example you gents were definitely not the only ones who were REALLY happy with SLAM league, it was very cool with the slam buffs and upgrades.
like what's stopping GGG from making a sword league, axe league, fire league. etc. that would be a ton more fun to look forward to. as opposed to waking up before league start and reading that your entire ascendancy got nerfed into the ground until they can figure out what to do with it because it's too tanky/does too much damage.
while they just ignore every single fricking thing else.
>>it honestly baffles me.... instead of "taking away" aka nerfing every season. why doesn't GGG "encourage" a certain build or playstyle each season with buffs/items/upgrades then the following season if the buffs were too much then bring them down a bit while simultaneously promoting another playstyle.
They used to do that, in a way. For example, Legion league also got melee rebalance with new slam skills, war cries and other stuff. Synthesis league had chaos skill rebalance and you got curse skills rebalance in 3.20. It's definitely noticeable that GGG invests less development time in current version on the game while they are working on Poe 2.
If Poe 2 turns bad then I'm not sure what could GGG do to save their game.
but you see, that's actually total bullshit. it's one thing to SAY the game is acts 1-10 and anything after is extra. >then turn around and lock over 50% of the game's content, achievements, rewards in "post game" content. of which you then have "elite" content that barely anyone gets to see with their own voicelines, and story, hidden at the very tippy top of game.
saying anything past kitava is "bonus" content is disingenuous because if that was the case then you should be able to fully unlock achievements off story content alone.
>psa chris has said the game is acts 1-10, anything after that is extra and not every build should clear redmaps or hardest content.
lmao, nobody plays this game for the campaign after doing it once moron, everybody knows this, even the lying moron himself >you're way too obsessed with poe.ninja builds and you feel like you HAVE to farm red maps full juiced or you're playing wrong and thats just cringe
You literally cannnot get into red maps with 90% of the skills unless you already had a league starter that was cheap and farmed up mirror tier gear asshat, how deep do you have bald frickingn morons shaft lodged in your throat?
chris also said not every skill will be good enough for end game and yes red maps are endgame content. he also said he only wants 15% of players to do endgame content like redmaps and beyond
The truth is that the game didn't fundamentally change, players did. They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week or have the game "force" equality through daily quests or some shit. Players just get massive fomo when they see other people get rich and powerful while they're still weak (because they only played two hours that week)
I have never had a problem doing 38/40 achievements casually over the course of a month. There are just too many FOTM games these days and people don't want to be stuck playing one game for too long. Diablo 2 literally came out again with a new skin, the exact same game, and it had about the same shelf life as a single Path of Exile league because of this.
harvest brought a lot of the wrong people and they are still trying to slow the game down for poe2/recover from it
this is the gameplay chris wants us to go back too, the zoom got away from him but he cant take it away instantly
>chris also said not every skill will be good enough for end game and yes red maps are endgame content. he also said he only wants 15% of players to do endgame content like redmaps and beyond
No, he said he wanted endgame to be "aspirational content" lmfao, followed it up with something like he wanted players to never be able to get there and only see streamers do it, because he's a lunatic. >harvest brought a lot of the wrong people and they are still trying to slow the game down for poe2/recover from it
Harvest allowed your average joe to get to do the shit streamers could do without interacting with the dogshit playerbase, which trigger baldo into throwing a tantrum.
Zoom zoom meta is still the only meta that exists, and he hasn't slowed the game down a bit for the streamers and RMT homosexuals. In case you haven't noticed it yet, he's a sociopathic liar with a giant ego.
>chris also said not every skill will be good enough for end game
And there's why people are quitting
Fricking moron in charge of game direction
1 year ago
Anonymous
game is acts 1-10, if the game makes you that mad leave the thread so people that like it can talk about it.
what should my next char be when i rip? playing minions atm and just rolling redmaps ez
1 year ago
Anonymous
Acts has always been a mandatory tutorial mode and you know it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>game is acts 1-10,
lmfao it's not and you know it you dishonest NEET loser >he's a hardcuck as well
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
im explaining how chris views the game read the thread
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're stating the idiot lead dev's opinion as an objective fact and telling me to leave if I disagree with his opinion
>Even kay quit
wtf
qrd?
She got sick of the constant minion nerfs and said it wasn't really a game she wanted to play anymore
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://youtu.be/2IuDtcrBkWk
Probably the minions nerf.
ty for spoonfeed
RIP kay
1 year ago
Anonymous
yes the person that made the game > your Ganker shitpost take
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not just my take, and the idiot who made the game isn't immune to criticism
Less people are playing and for less time, chris wilson will undo every stride he's made if he's allowed to keep forcing his vision of the game upon it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>so anally pained he has to switch to shitposting
lmao, if only you spent the time on poe and being a shitposting NEET on useful things you WOULDN'T be a complete loser!
It says a lot that people who hate poe right now are waiting for Diablo 4 to come out. They look forward to Diablo 4 lol
nobody said that, one person said D4 would be shit, and it's only positive would be giving this garbage game a mercy killing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You explicitly aren't, you demanded we leave so only people who "like" it can talk about it, and now you're switching feet since you got called out.
I'll let you in on a secret, that mentality got everyone to leave, which is why retention's been the lowest it's ever been and baldo won't show statistics or numbers and keeps lying about MUH LAUNCHER STATS. The only reason people are playing still is because it's the only ARPG left, and once D4 comes out, even when it's shit, this game will cease to exist.
I will spit on it's grave too, good riddence, and frick that bald homosexual. Guy deserves to be mutilated for the shit he does to people, or at least taxed to death because he's running a virtual casino and not being charged as such.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>game is acts 1-10,
lmfao it's not and you know it you dishonest NEET loser >he's a hardcuck as well
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Harvest was nothing but good, anyone complaining about it is immediately outed as a streamer, 24/7 flipper trader or no life homosexual, because it enabled the ordinary player to do what streamers do and thus not have to watch, to craft themselves and thus not have to interact with market homosexuals, and to do it in a much more reasonable time period with more reasonable outcomes which makes the no life homosexuals mad they wasted time that harvest players didn't have to waste :^)
And chris will never be able to slow down the game to that, nice delusion. Here's the thing, I am okay with fighting a thing for 2 minutes - assuming attrition is real, damage is reasonable and the game balance magically gets fixed by ggg hiring a contracting company to do it because they can't do it themselves. BUT, that thing has to drop the same amount of loot as the entire map would. And our bald israeli salesman can't have that, he will shit his pants in anger, and thus people will never accept the slow gameplay because the reward does not even stay at a maintaining level it just keeps going down.
Poe is also cancerous as frick. In every other arpg, things drop, you use them, right? In poe, things don't drop, what they do is insidiously have a million forms of currency that drop and then those can be used to gamble afterwards, so the drop still makes the player feel good but what has actually dropped is NOTHING AT ALL, a gambling token is not a real drop they've just tricked you into thinking its a real drop when the overwhelming majority of them just poof into nothing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Deterministically with 100% certainty crafting 6x T1 modded items, including and/or preserving powerful influence and essence mods, is too much.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Chris, please show how people made these supposed god items en masses.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Deterministically with 100% certainty crafting 6x T1 modded items, including and/or preserving powerful influence and essence mods, is too much.
No it isn't, because doing that example took people hundreds upon hundreds of exalts to do. That's fine
And people word this moronicly, "deterministically" does not mean what it implies it means to the reader. If you want to slam t1 life, it's deterministic only in the sense that you can keep removing it and re-doing it, at large cost, until you get it. This is a GOOD thing for 99% of players. It does not mean "yeah it'll just add life, and t1 life at that, every time np"
However let me just say, I don't give two fricks about influence and high end power. Literally delete all influence mods from the game, I will not care, this is exactly where they should be chopping 'power creep' when they b***h about it, not gems, not accessible power, but top end moron 'aspirational' power that almost nobody cares about except their homosexual streamers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Deterministically with 100% certainty crafting 6x T1 modded items, including and/or preserving powerful influence and essence mods, is too much.
It really wasn't because not only could most people not craft that shit, but it allowed all items to go down in price and for those that didn't want to pay, you could craft similar things yourself, leading to build variety and fun without having to jerk off in trade for hundreds of hours.
i genuinely STILL like path of exile granted.... >if i don't play the FOTM build or the same ass boring meta build i can't reach end game >if i DO play the fotm/meta build and reach end game it quite literally turns into a "grind" for currency
weird complaint i know, since the whole objective of the game is to be a time sink and grind for power. but is it too much to ask to have fun while doing it? i am not a high level player and i am definitely not a pro so take my complaints as just that, a noob's sour grapes.
if i am not stacking 3 defensive layers to significant levels, my health bar will simply disappear doing end game content
if i am not stacking 1 type of damage/relying on one gimmick(feature) i will be stuck in weaker content due to quite literal massive health pools stopping you.
poe gives you so many options but at the end of the day it's all just an illusion, exile.
i was considering doing brutal difficulty, but honestly that level of difficulty isn't even fun for me.
then there's the league content.... it's very hit or miss. this league was a miss. the league content quite literally shits on builds every league, and it's never the meta builds.
i come back every season, because you know, i appreciate the game and i do think it's fun. but if the league sucks. i just kill kitava, run some maps, maybe shoot a little further and then stop logging on. the ideas behind this league was cool, but the mechanic shit on my playstyle so i gave up.
kalandras idea was also cool, the rewards were interesting, but it was a bit tedious so i gave that one up as well. sentinel was interesting, i kinda liked it but it was a bit bland, DEMON league was cool in every way i stuck around for that one.
idk, GGG seems to drop the ball every now and then but i think overall poe does improve.
i just wish their "balancing" vision wasn't nerf everything into the ground.
Don't feel like keeping up with the game after the one actually viable crafting mechanic got removed because the developer is a manchild. Also hit decoration cap on my base
ive been playing since bestiary and every new league they just kept adding more and more ways to grind into the game but it didnt feel good to me, it felt like a chore. i stopped playing before the harvest came out then returned to try the game once more in the expedition but just straight up hated the league mechanic as it was back then and quit once and for all. i know that with the current atlas tree you're able to actually choose what kind of content you'd like to do and you are not obligated to do anything you hate but back when i was playing, skipping any piece of content and grind meant getting less profit or chance for a good loot so not doing everything felt like major underperformance. at this point when i think about returning i would only like to play SSF to truly experience the progress instead of brainlessly grinding everything that yields the most profit to eventually buy all the items i want from others because why bother trying to grind things yourself, why bother trying to craft items yourself if you can just get the raw currency and pay someone else for it. trade fricking sucks but the amount of game knowledge and sheer autism that goes into playing SSF is overwhelming so i just prefer to not play the game and hope that poe2 will be good, which i highly doubt
It used to be about picking a skill and changing it mechanically, but these days it's just about picking [strongest skill] and stacking as many multipliers as you can.
Monsters get everything for free, of course.
>literally nerf all player damage skills by 50-60% across the board a year ago >continue to nerf skills for the past year >enemies meanwhile have just gotten stronger and stronger
The game has devolved from the zoom zoom meta which was janky but fun into the "play one of three builds or die repeatedly and suffer" one.
PoE literally requires you to play it as a lifestyle to get anywhere in it. A few years ago you could just zoom zoom through acts and into maps just fine, now if you don't dump at least 1000 hours per league you probably won't even see some of the league mechanics.
Any game that requires you to play it to the exclusion of all other games (and indeed having a life in general) is a bad game. People like to meme about it but this may be the only game out there that has a playerbase primarily composed of actual soulless NEETs. It's doubly ironic because they put more money into actual mindless busywork and grinding than most people do into actual jobs that earn them money.
Sick and tired of the shitty balance and the shitty community, and the amount of shit you have to do to make a build just for general mapping now
No matter what skill you play you'll get bombarded with people ridiculing you for not going the skill that GGG graciously allows to clear pineapples with 0 budget this patch. Unless you play that skill+character of course, in which case when you die you get ridiculed for letting yourself die on an ezmode build
Plus people have always defended 99% of skills being shit by saying "just invest in them bro" but it costs more and more exalts - sorry, divines, to get a build running with each patch. Again because of the amount of SHIT you have to check off just to survive each map without dying, let alone clearing fast.
Challenge rewards have actually gotten better but I don't want to get them because I don't want to play a shit fricking game to do it. It's so frustrating to play now
The truth is that the game didn't fundamentally change, players did. They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week or have the game "force" equality through daily quests or some shit. Players just get massive fomo when they see other people get rich and powerful while they're still weak (because they only played two hours that week)
I have never had a problem doing 38/40 achievements casually over the course of a month. There are just too many FOTM games these days and people don't want to be stuck playing one game for too long. Diablo 2 literally came out again with a new skin, the exact same game, and it had about the same shelf life as a single Path of Exile league because of this.
Fricking dishonest post. Builds that people loved to play got deleted en masses, the grind is ever-increasing with each league, so you need more time to get to the point you were last league.
>The truth is that the game didn't fundamentally change, players did. They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week or have the game "force" equality through daily quests or some shit. Players just get massive fomo when they see other people get rich and powerful while they're still weak (because they only played two hours that week)
Yes you're poor because you didn't NEET poopsock your life away to baldo's game, and not because you're playing against RMT guilds, streamer cabals, or baldo himself (because he still runs an RMT site for his own game) Never mind the fact that he modifies loot seeds based on how much you buy, if you stream, if you bot, etc (he admited to as much, doubt he'd admit actual P2W until he got indicted to do so)
This ain't even covering your dishonesty about the "players changing" literally every build I liked got gutted, I'm not alone, but you will be when everyone abandons the game, as they have been doing en masse. >I have never had a problem doing 38/40 achievements casually over the course of a month.
Ah, you're a poopsock NEET or one of those gays that pays for challenges, carry on, you're too mazed to reasonably talk to.
>They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week
because the game is fricking boring. do you understand the concept of continuous progression, advancement and exploration?
this is what people find fun. see when you're level 95 already and running 500 mesas in a row because you've done all the maps on the atlas? that's not fun, that will never be fun to almost anyone besides streamers.
i don't care about your shitty challenges or mtx, i care about having fun playing a video game and poe falls off a cliff real fricking fast every time whilst other games do not.
also any companies trying to monopolize your time and say "you can play our game forever!" when its not an mmo are homosexuals in the first place
>Play SSF?
So the same game, with zero balance or drop changes, except you just take 5x as long to do anything?
Yeah sounds like great fun lmao. Game doesn't respect your time? Here's the solution, play the mode that respects it even less :^)
The league is over once you've done all the atlas maps and ran like 100-150 maps after that, that's it. There's nothing new, progression halts completely, it's just repetition for mostly no payout after that.
yeah gonna try a fun build
oh look i died 900 times because this build cant get some moronic overcapped defensive trait that has a risk of being severely reduced on map mods.
>what about the oobas
Don't give a shit about wildly overtuned bosses that drop nothing most of the time lad. >what about the challenges
Don't care about your shitty mtx, the challenges are stupid, killing some map boss whilst hopping on one foot wearing a hat on a tuesday doesn't make the gameplay any more fun or more rewarding. >what about wanting to play different builds for fun
First of all, I'm not doing the shit tier campaign walking simulator a second time in a league ever again lol. Second of all, the gameplay doesn't change. "hey you press a button that makes a different animation, whilst running the exact same maps, the exact same bosses, the exact same low rewards". Yeah gee, can't fathom why that doesn't appeal to most players lol
>what about the challenges
I remember one time durning the legacy league I decided to do the 36 challenges for the portal mtx
I spent my entire 2 week college break for this shit, it was one of the most painful and unfun grinds I've ever done, having to trade for minor items on poe.trade only added salt to injury. it wasn't that long, it was just really fricking tedios
and that was before the game started going to shit, I can't imagine doing challenges in current PoE.
anyway looking back at this experience now that I no longer play the game, it highlights the biggest issue with the game for me - nothing in this game is worth the time investment, by the time you finally achieve something you'd rather turn back time and spend it on something else rather than baldo casino
1 year ago
Anonymous
why would you do 36 for something that isn't even very good? the only time i've done 36 is for the ritual hideout which is sick as hell
You wanted progression and exploration. Your progression is actually meaningful in SSF and you might get drops that allow you to make meaningful build exploration. Criticism about respecting time is like complaining JRPGs don't respect your time. You know what you're getting into. Take it or leave it.
Doing all your atlas completion shit and a bonus 150 maps on top is probably at the high end of what Chris expects most of the player base to do per league anyway.
Making things slower doesn't make it more meaningful buddy, I dunno who convinced you of that. Jrpgs respect my time just fine, I love jrpgs lmao. I play them, I get drops, I get stronger, I get cool skills, I get new zones, new enemies, constantly until its over. And then I get superbosses. And then it's over, it doesn't tell me "keep playing this game for another 2.5 months but just keep doing the same shit you've done"
Chris's idea of progression is "run 200 maps", my idea of progression is run 5 maps, I want actual progress of my character every 5 maps or whatever, not once a week lol. And there's no "exploration" btw, all they do is recycle the same maps rotating them, the new maps they've made are a) few and b) exclusively really fricking terrible on top. These homosexuals could be shitting out 5 new maps every league and actually making them fun to play, but they don't because they're not a game company, they're a marketing company
wow she looks so awkward and her teeth are fricked up
and she looks kinda old, the skin looks wrinkly
but props to her for mustering up the courage to do a face reveal, I think it just becomes harder the longer you make videos without face
It was a bit too repetitive. It doesnt matter what build you make, the game boiled down to "just click on everything as fast as possible and go to next map". That would have been ok to a degree, if it wasnt such an easy game.
You can tell who is from /poeg/ because every normal Gankerirgin is going "yeah the game was too fast and looked like shit" while poetards want to undo nerfs
>Yo bro, why do you want the game to again like it used to be and what you liked about it? We are the new crowd now! This is our turf!!! What do you mean this game is trying to get d4's combat but doesn't look half the fun? Bald Black personman save me!!!!!
Yeah, everyone is poeg...
it's funnier when you realize it's 49% people who couldn't get into it because it's obtuse shit, and 49% people who used to like it after they got past the obtuse shit, with only 1% defending it being MAZED morons with sunk cost fallacy. I had a thousand+ hours in it and I got out, you'd think they'd do the same.
not even free poster still posts in /poeg/ you zoomer homosexual. the most common complaint about the game was that it was too fast. there's an entirely different player base that plays poe these days. all the diablo 1 fans left when the direction was going to diablo 2
At this point I want poe to go down in flames. Let nothing left of it, but a bad name echoing in the skulls of some moronic whales.
Yes, I was with poe since 2013~.
>Yes, I was with poe since 2013~.
Same timeframe but I don't want it to die, I just want it to be fun again
I just wanted to love this game like I used to, why does that have to be so fricking hard
>People didn't leave! They liked the constant nerds, and player numbers are better than ever!!!
Cognitive dissonance, and this is outright twitter lib levels of cope
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're the one claiming a mass exodus. I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm going to assume it's just been pretty steady.
1 year ago
Anonymous
go the frick to bed bex
1 year ago
Anonymous
Give PoE2 a shot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why it's poe+ that is what everyone has been beta testing for at least 2 years now. oh and the vaporware mobile game content to that gets added as league mechanics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, Chris will have to pay me several thousand just to play again.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why bother? It's just a glorified expansion to PoE 1 instead of a brand new fully fresh start separate game.
alzheimers league was the start, but harvest and it's removal fricked it good, even though I didn't care for it.
What mass exodus? Why are you morons making shit up?
>player numbers are less than half what they were and league start numbers drop 90% after each leage and get worse every league >he still believes baldo when he says the launcher numbers are huge >he doesn't think he's sweating bullets now that china is axing all games and killed tencent
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>Best league in years.
It's just standard buddy, the league mechanic is the worst roguelike in existence, they looked at roguelikes and then did literally every single thing incorrectly somehow, despite infinite examples to draw from. It genuinely has zero fun in the entire thing other than the rewards, which is the opposite of most roguelikes on the planet that are choc full of fun and player power.
didn't play last league at all, played this league for like a week or less tops, it just keeps going down.
the game is a flaming wreck, their desperation with wanting to make sure they kill people no matter what has created a situation where there are so many absolute requirements that your build choices that feel good are extremely limited. no amount of shitty vaal cleave additions will fix that. try playing any build that doesn't have spell suppression and doesn't have 84+ max all res or something. its miserable, even when you have grace, determ, 7k es, whatever, still gonna die
and it takes so long to do anything fun that you feel like you've already beat the fricking game by the time you get to do it unless you buy it, and buying it feels miserable because buying items is the only real way to get upgrades or reach those specific mandatory requirements they've imposed
farm mephisto = no entry cost, takes 1 minute, consistent rewards worth looking at, every few hours you'll get something good
farm uber elder = massive entry cost, takes like 4 mins or some shit due to mandatory dick sucking immunity phases like every boss, drop rate for anything worth a damn is basically zero, just watchers eye gambling. other bosses do not have watchers eyes, so they're worthless due to the same awful drop rates
the game is just a lot of "kill a million monsters and do a million maps for no drops" more than ever
a hundred other reasons, basically they're pretty bad at game design and balance, they've put all their eggs into the poe2 basket and they're purely a marketing company, not a video game company.
you only enjoy the game if you stream and earn money playing 10 hours a day grinding the same mindless shit for lotto wins, or if you are okay with playing like mathil with some shitty 4k life build that dies regularly. protip: most players aren't okay with this, dying regularly severely diminishes their fun
Yes, 2 div builds with the most barebones of defenses shouldn't be able to do maps with 300% more damage without an extremely high risk of dying. Use your brain.
>nooo muh strawman
My build this league, for the record moron, was using like a 7 div chest alone, and it was running temp chains and enfeeble with +50% curse effect too, constant 30% chill on anything, on top of all the other defenses, chaos cap, determ, grace, defiance banner. But it didn't have suppression, impossible to fit, and didn't have max res, impossible to fit, and it didn't have full ailment immunity, impossible to fit, and it didn't have a high block chance i.e 50%+ on both, so it was unfun. It is -mandatory- to have at least suppression, high max res OR block+spell block cap.
>relies on curse defenses >runs reduced curse efficacy >what the frick dood I died
You're right about requiring spell suppress though. Just get it. That's just how it is for now.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Just get it.
Except you can't. Any build using 1-2 uniques in suppression slots that isn't a ranger or shadow? Immediately unattainable.
Templars and witches both have to roll high tier supress on every single piece of gear, which is not reasonable to achieve before they're already 90+ in reds and finished with their character because items with suppress and the other required stats, whether its life, es, res, stats you need etc, are expensive, so the whole time on the way they're just meant to what, die over and over? That ain't fun
1 year ago
Anonymous
Don't facetank and get the suppress you can get until you eventually hit 100%. Play smart. Obviously witches aren't made of one ply just because you can't immediately suppress cap.
moron, if I have invested the shitton of currency and points into not dying, shocker: I shouldn't be randomly dying to almost anything.
Imagine defending the design that is "yeah you invested into armour on all your items, 2 reservation auras, points on the tree, but oh well this one random mod deletes 70% of your armour xd" lmfao
And then you're gonna try the "well just roll over it/just don't click it/just run away from that rare mob that has that affix" which is when you get told that the same design applies to EVERYTHING, so "just don't click it" becomes "just don't click anything btw" because the amount of your character one single affix deletes is insane vs how much you had to invest to get it.
And if I'm not clicking anything, why am I playing the game moron? Yeah just run all your maps white or blue, never click altars, just mindlessly farm out the treadmill.
That's not actually playing the game, playing the game means engaging with all of it, period. Reroll minus max res maps, reroll whatever mods brick your build, avoid clicking altars that take your res below cap, other than that click literally everything and run damage mods, because THAT IS THE GAME, there is no game if you do not do this, eat a dick 🙂
And you know what, I can do this. 10 mil dps aegis aurora melding max block skeleton mage build did this just fine a few leagues back. And I will accept no less than that level of defensiveness because the game is fricking unfun without it due to balance, it's like playing d2 hell mode but the only mob that exists are lightning spirits cause ggg are nz iq
>that's... not a lot of defensive layers friend. >5 layers is not a lot of defensive layers
It's more than your iq apparently. How many do you think you should need exactly? Because I had even more than this this league, like 8, and it still didn't matter because shocker: some of the 'layers' are just worthless compared to others, no amount of hp or evasion or curses or chills is going to make up for suppression, because the game is designed terribly to pigeon hole you into playing only a few things that can get all the requirements.
You are talking to the GGG defense force. These mentally ill and not sure about their gender freaks will never acknowledge that the game is shit. They get the beating from their massa and ask for more, every couple of months. Wouldn't be surprised if they have nothing else in life other than PoE.
>I shouldn't be randomly dying to almost anything
Your defenses are not as good as you think it is if this is happening.
I actually agree that map mods shouldn't invalidate builds. Reflect shouldn't be a thing. No regen shouldn't be a thing. Minus max shouldn't be a thing. Reduced aura efficacy shouldn't be a thing. I think it's a cheap way to add difficulty. I also have zero idea what mods can replace them that both add difficulty to the map without invalidating builds. So that's just the game: don't run mods that totally frick you or be able to tank the penalties. >That's not actually playing the game, playing the game means engaging with all of it, period.
You are engaging with all of it, and you can engage with all of it. You can do an Atoll or an Exarch invite. Just not when there's minus armour on the map. Just roll over it, dude.
>have you ever played a build which needs a lot of buttons? it fricking sucks ass
Because their designers are incompetent >oh hey you can use the second bar and rebind the buttons
okay cool that's a start, but now what happens when you need to actually see the cooldowns and availability of more than 8 skills >idk i guess lol
Their ui is fricking atrocious
>You are engaging with all of it, and you can engage with all of it. You can do an Atoll or an Exarch invite. Just not when there's minus armour on the map. Just roll over it, dude. >just reroll the map mod that nobody can do bro >it's totally not the same as ele or phys reflect bro
imagine defending this kind of cuckshed game design lol
10 endurance charges + other sources of additional phys reduction + phys hits taken as ele aren't affected by minus armour and maintain the same or better phys mitigation.
1 year ago
Anonymous
And you still die in one hit because armor is worthless and even with 95% damage reduction everything hits for more than your max life pool multiple times.
>moron, if I have invested the shitton of currency and points into not dying, shocker: I shouldn't be randomly dying to almost anything.
funny thing is, you still would die to everything in one hit, there was maybe one build that could afk farm and it was RF and I think they nuked that.
I mean that's cause afk is a high requirement, you're still gonna need to press a button. As I said I played a skeleton mage build that ran triple nem deli crimson temples and only died once or twice. The thing is, players should not NEED melding and aegis aurora and 90 max res and 50k armour and max block and all that other shit to simply feel good to play. It should feel good to play baseline
>he thing is, players should not NEED melding and aegis aurora and 90 max res and 50k armour and max block and all that other shit to simply feel good to play. It should feel good to play baseline
I agree with you, but BFR doesn't, it's why he gutted everything in the game defensive wise and upped enemy health and damage. HE got lucky with goodwill and releasing this game at the right place, right time.
>only one person shits on POE and the mazed morons still poopsocking through it >not the players who quit in droves and are currently overwhelming GGG's massive mod team
lmaaaao
okay baldo dick sucker schizo, everybody who left the game is me, and everybody who shits on you and your loser NEET lifestyle is also me. You got me, I'm literally every enemy in your miserable life, now come and kill me you little pussy.
He's entirely right with his post. Anyone railing against harvest outs himself as a brainlet shitter who was too moronic and clinically brain-dead to use such a straight forward mechanic.
If you are just in for the group think, and spout le harvest bad meme, then you out yourself as a homosexual who's gobbling up your favourite youtube jester's opinion. Of course these homosexuals who play the game as their job are against people getting good gear.
You could easily see this with that fat homosexual with the pedophile voice when he was trying out Last Epoch and talking to the developers. He immediately asked for streamers getting better gear and that regular people should be locked out of it.
He's entirely right with his post. Anyone railing against harvest outs himself as a brainlet shitter who was too moronic and clinically brain-dead to use such a straight forward mechanic.
If you are just in for the group think, and spout le harvest bad meme, then you out yourself as a homosexual who's gobbling up your favourite youtube jester's opinion. Of course these homosexuals who play the game as their job are against people getting good gear.
You could easily see this with that fat homosexual with the pedophile voice when he was trying out Last Epoch and talking to the developers. He immediately asked for streamers getting better gear and that regular people should be locked out of it.
>Criticise the game >troony poster takes personal offense, starts raging and spamming his troony to piss off people, but not realising that nobody cares
Bet you are already stomping with your feet, lol
Unironically, you are veddit incarnate. You do this shit for cheap attention, every time, and there is an army of simps giving in and opening their wallets to him. If you'd be from here, you'd go on his channel and ask him whether his parents are proud of him, and record his reaction, getting banned, creating new accounts and repeating this day after day to mock him. But no, you do the same stale cheap attention whoring posts in hopes to get a distraction from your empty life. And in the end, you are his advertiser, doing it for free, literally.
What a pathetic army of ggg shills this is nowadays, full of vedditors and simps, unproductive and reduced to walking wallets. Throwing money either at GGG or on that troony. I know you and your discord friends will downvote me to hell and back, report my post in hopes to get me banned. But the message is out.
May you all die of colon cancer, goodbye.
It's not only games that barely qualify as arpgs, but that have a similar camera angle can draw people away from poe, it's that stupid phone game that causes such massive butt hurt. GGG supporters have their anus prolapsed from this ongoing assault on them, throwing them into a shit posting frenzy for quite some time. How long did this go now? A year, or is it already two? You can bet your dad's boyfriend second credit card, that when a real arpg game releases its multiplayer, that it will kill poe for good. I can only dream of the anal clenching when that jackhammer keeps thrusting the bum of Chris' game.
actually this league is the most i've played since Ritual when all the constant nerf leagues started. although Expedition is my favourite league they kept making it too difficult and only catered to twitch autists.
i killed the true form league boss so i'm kind of a big deal 8^) i'm glad they toned the game down a bit for normal 6 hour a day players like me.
Not fun.
In the hundreds of hours I spent in it over the years, I never once felt rewarded for playing.
To play a game like that for a long time, you need some other motivation, like getting money from streams. It's the perfect streamer game, but a shit everyone else game.
Every build turns into the same thing - run around 1shotting everything on hyper speed. Any build that doesn't do enough damage gets set back because the whole game is a farming treadmill of how many maps you can run per hour to gather currency to make yourself stronger to run more maps.
Garbage game where spazoids get angry if they can't run faster and faster through the same 1 enemy type. Any time they try to slow the game down so you can process all the moving lights and sounds you just saw on the screen the entire community boycotts the game. I'll stick to actually being able to comprehend what I just witnessed for the past 8 hours in my crack sesh.
>Any time they try to slow the game down
There's an easy way to do this homosexual baldo: cut the damage of all monsters and players in half at once, and double the loot or the drop rate of decent shit. Voila, your game is a bit slower and players aren't actually mad because you've compensated and balanced correctly. They boycott because ggg are brainless morons who can't do this, and leave mob damage and speed intact, don't compensate loot, and just try to make players weaker lol
it's not that they're brainless morons like most of the GGG defenders, it's that they actively hate their playerbase, and if you are a dev that challenges "THE VISION tm" you will be bullied or fired by King Bald himself.
The glass door reviews for GGG show exactly what kind of homosexual Chris is.
>based chris poster observing >knows it's /poopg/ lite
all this thread needs is the spaz that freaks out when the gen gets hijacked and no links get posted
He doomed his own game. Except a couple of die-hard simps is shitting on the game. He wants to slow it down to Diablo 4 levels of combat, but the system isn't there to make it engaging, and soon there won't be anyone but bots and a couple of whales left in his maze.
>but the system isn't there to make it engaging >Sanctum mobs mostly clearly telegraph their attacks, and they're often slow and deliberate
They are testing that system right now.
If they still use every league as a testing ground, they are going to have pissed off almost anyone before releasing their supposed "vision" or what ever they are working on. And judging from the last poe2 footage, it's going to be lacklustre.
>and they're often slow and deliberate
Dunno what game you're playing buddy, but most of the generals attacks are fast as frick, target you before you can even see them, auto track at the speed of light, and then shit out 30 projectiles from a melee swing lol
Sure, they might have 'patched' it to reduce the projectiles and shit, but they're not testing anything that's copium.
he's right, they don't test shit
well actually during one of the poe2 lead up interviews, a dev member mentioned they tested balance changes in PVP, because that's a sane thing to do.
I play POE, but I skip leagues that I don't like. Played kalandra for a bit but then I quit. This new league is pretty shit imo, I don't like the new league mechanic at all so I stopped playing after the first day of the league. Its a hit and miss.
I bet these heteros kiss girls, General Gravicius grunts, his hips rapidly slamming his erect donger deep into Shadow's lean muscled frame. Sweat drips from his brow as he moans a quiet prayer before both nuts erupt, turning him into a fountain of cum, launching shadow at least 5 meters onto the floor. Gravicius smirks at the sight, "I frick for God. Who do you frick for, Exile?"
I got tired of exp loss on death and the vastly increased TNLs for Lv91-100 effectively locking out 10 skill points that could have made way more builds viable, the way 6L became mandatory, and the way it also permanently gimped melee because you have to waste a gem slot for Melee Splash since solo-target is not an option. It also didn't help any when it became full Chinese spyware.
>how much do you die that you can't get beyond 91?
I don't blame him, back when I played my max, I had a flame max block glad with HOH molten strike, with millions of dps and was getting called to do all sorts of end game content. I think I got him to 95 or 97 before I quit with him, because as fun as the build was, I was still getting one shot through my armor+end charges+hoh+HOB+max block+max spell block. This was ages ago during pokemon league, and it's probably much worse now.
I didn't like how they made rare mobs casinos
>I didn't like how they made rare mobs casinos
that's literally the whole game.
>that's literally the whole game.
Didn't used to be, your majority of drops came from normal and magic mobs, juicing just added more mobs to the map which meant more decent drops. Now nothing drops anything except rare mobs, and only if you lotto the right combination of mods, and then only if you win lotto on its drop rates on top.
The average outcome of running 10 maps before vs the average outcome of running 10 maps now is wildly different, because its all based on rare mob luck now instead of total mobs.
I meant the whole game is a shitty casino, sure loot goblin bullshit is much worse now, but it's just an extension of how bad the whole game's gotten with that shit.
>come to the thread while shitting to shit on what this game became >like clockwork that one rabid defender comes by posting the exact same shit he was still posting in the general when I left years ago
what happens to somebody that they spend their entire life shilling a game made by a bald schizo that hates them, for zero compensation, genuine question.
HH is what really made me play PoE. I'd farm one each league and just have fun running maps after. I played a lot of Sentinel because of recombinators and created some insane items, but I didn't really enjoy the game anymore. In Kalandra I chased amulets until the last day of the league and mostly kept playing because of the league-exclusive builds (negative charge discharge). Sanctum is unironically a shit league mechanic. And the core game just kept getting worse. Why would I play the same game I was playing 2 years ago, but with an added 85% less fun modifier? Game is boring, that's it. Everything's the same now, nothing has the same variance old HH did.
Should be the same as before, you have the same effects split across multiple monster modifiers. It doesn't even begin to compare to old beyond with old HH, with or without self-curse.
>Mandatory aura stacking >Dog shit loot >Most skills are dog shit >Layers of useless "complexity" = Need 6 sockets, need to link them, need the correct colours, need specific affixes otherwise worthless/useless item >Too many league mechanics in maps, most are not fun
>he's so buck broken that he's still defending GGG either unirnoically or ironically 24/7
no matter what you say we will always be better than you, now go collect your neetbux honey, you have a life to not live 🙂
I don't like how all builds are; >lol stack a trillion defenses or get one shot >lol stack a trillion auras or get one shot >lol all the fun builds are dead >play trapper for six seasons in a row
I just want to summon some zombies and blow up corpses.
Because I was always barely able to do red maps/non uber versions of the bosses and would occasionally still fail at them even and they just keep nerfing everything
I also dont have the patience to farm more than like 5-10 ex.
ive played >sunder >flame cyclone >detonate dead >spectres >skeletons >contagion/blight >puncture/split arrow bleed >bladeflurry/infernal blow with 2 oni goroshi
Skeletons got me the furthest, but contagion felt the most OP because it would delete several screens worth of shit at once I just got walled by bosses
Sunder was probably the worst but I brute forced progress with juggernaut tankiness
I saw Quin die to a visual bug the second he entered a map the other day and people were unironically defending it because it's a bug that's been in the game for years. When your fanbase makes excuses for things like that then it makes me wonder about their mental health. I understand there are workarounds but the fact that it still exists and people defend it was stunning to me.
>he entered a map
defending it is stupid, but you also don't know what happened. it wasn't a map, it was uber elder. and it occurred because he's a logout spamming pussy homosexual. logout should be deleted from the game, so him getting fricked by that bug is nice. ggg are dogshit at coding, and logout streamers are dogshit at the game.
he was moronic and moved instantly upon reentering, which if you've ever played this game and had to log out you know is a moronic idea because the game client no longer knows what animations are playing so they play invisibly instead
I'm not denying his moronation, everyone knows he's a clown. My point is that the bug shouldn't exist and I seem to recall Chris saying logout macro spamming was intended game design but I could be wrong. I think it's a lame tactic myself.
it's not easily resolvable though unless the server tracked all the animations and their current frame which would be moronic
it's partly why the grace period exists
it's not easily resolvable though unless the server tracked all the animations and their current frame which would be moronic
it's partly why the grace period exists
Reminder that GGG unironically defends log out macros because these lazy fricks have no idea how to balance their bloated game.
Reminder that the game is balanced around having a log out macro, flask macro, external building, and external trading helper.
All things that should be default features, or not needed, in a functioning game.
he was moronic and moved instantly upon reentering, which if you've ever played this game and had to log out you know is a moronic idea because the game client no longer knows what animations are playing so they play invisibly instead
the moron deserves it, though. He defends every single one of GGG's stupid fricking decisions and usually what he defends kills him a day or two later because he's a fricking idiot.
>minioncucks are the ones whining about the current state of PoE
holy shit, how about you gays play a real build instead of hiding behind your minions like a fricking pussies and then cry b***h tears when Chris nerfs your shit
i havent played last couple leagues but it looks like this one is in the same state they have all been for awhile with 120-150k on launch then trickling down to 50% of that after a month
Still think game is in a shit spot
Who the frick are you talking about? Everyone's dropping dogshit PoE once Diablo 4 comes out and nobody even likes Blizzard or thinks D4 will be good. It's a commentary on the absolute state of PoE more than anything.
that's not because it's a worse game, it's way better, they left because AGS is a giant fricking moron studio and tanked the game by sheer incompetence.
Bald moron had the smarts to hook players with first purchases and good will scamming while kickstarter games were still all the rage. People would still be playing LostArk more if they hadn't fricked up at literally every opportunity. The bar is so low, all D4 has to do is not be a giant clusterfrick joke.
Nobody believed in Wolcen though, that was always a shtipost.
Sunk cost fallacy in full+ built up good will.
Lost ark didn't bother to sell cosmetics when the game launched, or made them impossible to find or just impossibly generic. So what you got was millions of people playing, and then leaving because they didn't invest currency into the game, and the pr was attrocious.
Baldy hooked people with early access, listening to players, and mtx right off the bat, and kept up the charade for a good few years until the china buyout. By that point you had several years of grifter goodwill, and hundreds of dollars in mtx spent.
Game is built around trade, no matter how much the SSnowFlakes are in denial about it.
Nothing good drops, gear drops don't matter because even your best rolled rare you find is instantly overshadowed by some 10c shit you find on the market.
You just run maps like a moron, then spend an excruciating amount of time messaging random people via a 3rd party site open in one of your other 10+ tabs that are mandatory to play the game, hoping they will even bother replying.
All that, makes it extremely unfun for the average person.
>existance of bots bullies developers into not fixing game
sure, might as well not do anything because bots
it's not like they care about bots anyway, auction house would make the game 10x better instantly, all things considered BUT
Why does BFR outright refuse to add an actual trading system into the game?
that would make the game less excruciating to play and we can't have that, it's haram according to THE VISION
also making AH would require dev time which they don't have because new bloat timewaster mechanics and won't make themselves
>Game is built around trade, no matter how much the SSnowFlakes are in denial about it.
Yes. I keep trying to play SSF every now and then and it's fun until I clear the Atlas once and my gear is too good for random rares to be upgrades anymore. Then I'm stuck just aimlessly running maps until I find something build enabling for something fun. OR you spend weeks running a specific map for a specific unique divination card so you can do that build you want to do.
>Nothing good drops, gear drops don't matter because even your best rolled rare you find is instantly overshadowed by some 10c shit you find on the market.
Yes.
I have fun on trade once a year but it's all about the currency drops and stuff like Enlighten gems. You never find actually good gear because it's all crafted.
>You just run maps like a moron, then spend an excruciating amount of time messaging random people via a 3rd party site open in one of your other 10+ tabs that are mandatory to play the game, hoping they will even bother replying.
Not a real issue. Just stop trying to whisper the first 10 people because everyone else does too. Just shell out the extra 1-2 chaos and get it easily.
>no endless korean grindan endgame content >no obnoxious MTX effects >balance remains same >no cancer drop rates >no server lags
Take the old games pill.
yeah old games are far better in general, but especially arpgs. but chris doesn't like them, he played his own moron version of d2 where people met up at 2am irl to trade lances and idiotic shit and thinks its what anyone else played. meanwhile we all enjoyed d2 and tq because they were the opposite of what chris thinks is good. he doesn't like arpgs, he likes a) marketing and b) mtg massive israeliteery
yeah but what they've shown is like >do you want to use fire skills? spec the fire talents >do you want to do ice damage? spec the ice talents >open world >900 dungeons on a rotating 15 minute timer! >cosmetic items >battlepass >battlepass boost
how the frick anyone can be excited for that when it clearly looks like it's going to be shit i have no idea
Nice cope trying to pick retention stats long past the point anyone cares about or whatever the frick this is lmao. The only retention that matters is league launch -> 1 week in. Two weeks in at absolute most. Anything after that means nothing
That ship sailed long ago. This game isn't about "casuals" vs "hardcore" for years, and the developers are shitting on the entire game and player base for three years at maximum thrust levels.
Because it's not fun?
It's not "you're a casual you're bad" vs "you're good so you get this". It's literally a fricking slot machine, with the worst odds possible. Your being good or bad doesn't matter, it's just about how long you can spend with your brain dribbling out of your ears doing the exact same shit, giving yourself rsi, until you win lotto. And then you have to win that lotto another time for basically every gear slot you have.
Arpgs cannot survive like that, it's not what anyone enjoys about the genre
>nerfing everything but buffing mobs >archnemesis instead of yellows (which they have removed by now) >Pseudo skill diversity which ultimately results in playing the same 5 skills for multiple seasons now >Reducing overall currency drop rates due to muh mechanics >Dumbing down the skill tree resulting in streamlined paths >Performance gets worse season by season even with a good pc (That shit grinds my gears the most) >QA is done by players, not internally >3rd party programms necessary to even START to play the game PROPERLY >Campaign gets dull after you've cleared it a 100 times (even if it only takes like 2 to 3 hours to go through it becomes a chore) >SSF is a meme >You mostly don't find items, but currency to get items for YOUR build as most stuff cannot be target-farmed >Getting off-screen'd is now a difficulty instead of the exception (inb4 gitgud eat shit) >Trading is still so ass since the flesh-cap argues that it is impossible to take away a new and improved way, but then guts most of the players power which is ok. >No reason to alt anymore >No new chase items (Muh mageblood boring design) >endgame bosses are not rewarding by themselves, grind them a 1000 times to get that one item which is devalued after week 1 anyways >BUGS ABOVE BUGS which are not getting fixxed for years, example: Conqueror's fights and Sirus >Skills balanced to fit skin sales (Can't blame them there, as it is a business) >Boring and samey seasons for a while now >Party play impossible due to shit performance (now nerfed anyways so who gives a shit, also a reason why homosexuals like that hungarian wienermongler left)
>inb4 gitgud homosexual
6k hours in that dumpster fire of a game, cleared everything that was to clear multiple times
At least the atlas skill tree is cool as i can focus on stuff i want to do, problem is only that it is most likely gutted as it doesn't fit the streamer meta
Weird how I'm like the only person in POEG who ever mentions the fact that we've been playing with the exact same skill for half a decade, nobody wants new shit but instead balance or buffs, I really don't give a shit, most skills are boring and we need new ones that are fun
Not wrong, and it's amazing how harvest called out veddit and all the neets. Even the most easy iteration of crafting, to that point, flew completely over their head. They weren't even able to utilise it for crafting their maps, for free, let alone craft israeliteels with it, the easiest of crafts. It showed that they can't understand the game, and have to brute force their way through benign pixel grind. Chris is right, the game's player base today, are the most brain-dead consumer drones. The days of the average person enjoying breaking the creator's toy are long gone. But then again, even Chris works against what the game used to be known for. And only the brainless neets are left circling this turd
Like yes there are lots of people crying about stuff that hardly play the game, but what can you really say about a person based on his current season challenges? If the person hates the current state of the game, they probably haven't done shit in the current league. I'm bored out of my mind, not that I have anything in particular to complain about atm, and I have like 12 challenges or something because I dropped the league shortly after getting to T16s.
what does this even prove, 40/40 is mostly RNG bullshit or shit you pay for in game. >T. played Abyss and was able to clear the league's bosses but couldn't get most of the challenge shit to spawn because the game is a slot machine.
>you're not really non-meta, you're just using a different build
wow you caught me. My build does damage just like all the other builds. GGG really would've let you clear all content with your phase run build in 3.10
Why is the loot treadmill arpg scene so bad. What games are there to even play other than poey? I tried sleepoch but the combat isn't that responsive and the mob density is really low
I took me 1k+ hours to realise that it sucks. (That was like 2-3 years ago)
Playing PD2 and Grim Dawn showed me that ARPGs can be fun. Frick baldos vision
It'll be a financial success because there's just so many people who are forever stuck eating whatever shit Blizzard puts out. I'm going to play it too because no doubt all my friends are going to buy it. It'll probably be fun for 2 weeks and then none of them will ever touch it again because that's just how Blizzard games are now.
They would probably have to throw in a lot of free mtx to get the masses back within a month. I can imagine that d4 will be the hot shit for at least two months, the least. Casuals aren't going as fast through games as autists. And then they also wanted to do leagues?
Honestly, I can't imagine anyone going back to path of clunky once they had all the easing mechanics and quality of life features in d4 that are completely devoid in poe.
GGG is insanely corrupt, despite the constant nerfs they are making way more money now than during the harvest heyday with all these new crazy rare unique items, credit cards are being swiped 24/7 on their official rmt websites.
you can change the ingame font with windows registry shenanigans
abe(the ffxiv namegay) does the same shit, uses that gay fricking font that the asiatic uses, he also thinks hes fricking epic for posting his offtopic poe shenanigans in the fricking tank channel on the balance discord
thankfully he'll be gone from poe threads soon cause he'll have to grind the new raid or whatever is coming
GGG knows what they are doing. They're just spinning the wheels and building their endgame because they know Diablo 4 is going to come out, all the people will flock over there, complete all content in two weeks (just like each PoE league) realize there is literally nothing else to do, then come back to PoE for their quarterly league release and build that you can actually bother improving instead of farming for +1 item power every hour
For people who earnestly think Diablo 4 will kill Path of Exile, what do you think Diablo 4's endgame is going to be? If it doesn't have an endgame that isn't just rifts, it's DoA
They are building three end game territories as far as I know, over world bosses, maps and something else. Was it "elite" areas? If they add maps in the future, I'm gone for good.
i dont even particularly like poe or arpgs in general but i hate how the new trend is to insult any game that doesnt reduce itself to a tasteless dopamine dispenser for zoomers
The balance between work and fun in PoE has been steadily tipping towards work ever since 3.15, and at some point I realized I spent way too much time I didn't enjoy, just getting to the fun part I did enjoy The former part kept getting longer every league, and the latter kept getting more constrained by constant "balance" changes that dumpstered almost everything interesting except the same two archetypes for years. Trade got worse with the moronic ex-divine change, and that was just the last straw of drudgery that made me quit.
For people who earnestly think Diablo 4 will kill Path of Exile, what do you think Diablo 4's endgame is going to be? If it doesn't have an endgame that isn't just rifts, it's DoA
Having to beat the campaign everytime you want to level a new character is fricking stupid. Just bring back endless ledge. You beat acts once, and unlocks endless ledge with no item drops, that stops giving XP at 66.
>inb4 of practice more, do the speedrun strat blah blah
It's still a 'session' of gaming wasted going through the same bullshit. I'd rather run acts 1-4 3 times than 1-10 once. Because you got those comfortable leveling zones(ledge/docks/dried lake/blood aqueduct) where you could just chill and level. Instead of having to zoom through quest zones.
What i actually need is a permanent league that gets the content as it arrives.
I really can't no life as i used to do when i was in school, i got a job, a home, i just can't
I WOULD play if i could just log in 5-10 hours a week for 2-3 weeks, taste the new stuff then go back to hibernate for 10 to 14 week. Keep the season league for the ricer and farmer that can spend 4 day awake to be competitive i'm not there anymore.
because after the first few weeks the place is a ghost zone, and after the initial rush i remember that in 2 months the character i'm using will be back to a worthless permie league where i won't be able to see new content.
that's another trick the israelite uses to keep you hooked. You progress resets every few months so you can never really beat the game.
You just keep coming back like a drug addict stumbling in through the clinic doors, if you can jsut get one more hit you'll be good this time. It's designed to be as addicting as it is awful, they do not care about your wellbeing, they just want your life.
Its the opposite. You play for a month and then quit and can return to a fresh new league without being behind. Now see lost shart or wow where if you miss a reset you're premanently behind.
Sounds like unironic rat race mind. I can't imagine anyone ever giving a shit if every new league mechanic or mtx challenge was added to standard. People simply stop trading low quality items altogether.
This three months reset is just a trick to get people showing off mtx in town again.
lmao, you're permanently behind in POE always. In lost ark and Wow you can catch up easily and there's shit to do besides the ENDLESS GRIND.
In POE you are subject to the massive RMT and trading cabals, as well as the whims of streamers and no life neets playing the game like a job. They are always online, and always running macros/bots/trade scams so you will always be behind.
Look at you, no better than a junkie justifying his heroine addiction, or a greasy strung out gambler itching for another go at the slots.
You're beat man, this is your prison, GGG owns you lol.
Does anyone actually enjoy games like this? I'm not even fricking old, but I just prefer to buy my game and that to be it, let me go through it and enjoy it without external time pressure, meta shit and dark pattern game design that is designed to exploit me for both my time, money and data. It's so tedious.
people with zero life and aspirations do, because it consumes their life so they don't have to think about how shit they've got it. I play Lost ark, but I haven't played in months, I still want to go back to it because it's fun but I've taken a break for now. I can eventually go back and enjoy some raids or dungeons. Same thing with ff14.
With POE, if I ever went back it'd be the same as ever. Miserable trade, leveling, grind, progression, skills, and classes.
Behind how?
It's a single player game. The other players are just there to act as vendors.
Aside from racing for lvl 100s or something, what is there to be behind on?
>POE is a single player game
lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
1 year ago
Anonymous
>people with zero life and aspirations do
I guess so, I used to play WoW 10+ years ago and it was the only thing I had going and I dedicated an absurd amount of time to it, because it was one of a few select games that allowed you to do that. Now there's so many games and it seems the de facto way to design your game and it's just not for me anymore. Give me a nice 20 hour experience over something that demands I constantly play and come back and read patch notes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just play Resident evil 2 or DMCV exceptional games that aren't designed by morons that you can get hundreds of hours out of if you actually enjoy it more than the initial play through.
I value my time a lot more nowadays, so I don't play shit as much, one of the reasons I occasionally check POE threads. Gotta let people know the game is a trainwreck so they don't waste their time, and insult the people who are buck broken by Chris.
If you treat this game as a single player, you opinion is worth nothing. You are not interacting with anyone and simlpy grinding your life away in a cubicle in isolation. Take what ever they shit on your plate and shut up.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You missed my point. How is it any different if you play with 1-3 friends? You're still playing alone together. How are you interacting with anyone else outside TFT/trade?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah okay yes. The only interaction you can get is party play and trade. I wouldn't describe playing with friends or a party as playing in isolation. Maybe only in market terms if you don't trade outside.
The problem the other anon means with being in competition with others is to some degree a perceived competition.But it is also direct in terms if you want to buy build defining items and alike.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is completely dishonest, you are forced to interact with players after a point because you cannot sustain maps or your build simply won't work without certain pieces of gear.
Playing it SSF every league just makes you a masochist, streamer, or one of those human failures who does nothing but play poe every day.
empy is probably the dumbest player ever, if he didnt have his group to carry him he'd struggle to afford a fricking tabula
still remember them quitting last league when their main trader got banned, they blamed it on shit drops lol
literally nothing has changed except people have learned the boss moron, a million guides came out, people done it enough, it becomes not difficult. that's how things work.
looks fine to me
>looks fine to me >ritual still fricking everyones ass
clearly not buddy. ritual was the last good league that lived up to the hype. archnem? kalandra? they did good marketing, leagues were terrible, their retention bombed because of it so the peak means nothing.
secondly, stop posting your homosexual pictures individually, either post the comparison chart that lists day 1, day 5, week 1 etc all at once or dont bother
also as the other anon said steamcharts is more reliable, ggg are israelites and proven they're untrustworthy on absolutely everything at this point anyway
Remember when dominous and malachai were hard bosses who could actually kill you? These days a beginner can go through acts 1 - 5 without a chest piece.
Get real.
yeah, when they were the fricking end bosses of the game sure. shock, they're not the end bosses of the game, ggg added a million percent padding, still wanted the end of the campaign to have the 'same' difficulty, so just scaled it. this isn't power creep causing anything here
>literally nothing has changed except people have learned the boss moron, a million guides came out, people done it enough, it becomes not difficult. that's how things work.
damn... now just do that with the rest of the game
>damn... now just do that with the rest of the game
Doesn't work that way moron, no amount of "skill" or "learning" can overcome not having spell suppression in maps. In fact, learning and avoiding mechanics doesn't even exist in maps, you cannot avoid taking 500 hits, you cannot even see half the shit to avoid it. Imagine trying to compare single enemy bosses in a contained arena with designed and telegraphed abilities with the shitshow of having 500 mobs randomly generated with random affixes - with no limitations, exclusions or caps - and thinking its similar lmao.
I do not have an issue with bosses generally, my issue with bosses is almost always that they're incredibly fricking slow and unrewarding to do and only pay off if you run literally 1000 of them and average it out - which human beings do not do.
Being forced to trade with other players for gear I desperately need for my build when I can't even grind for anything valuable enough to trade for it with using the randomly found gear I already have. How am I supposed to get anywhere if drop rates are throttled down to near zero by the time I start needing to optimize and the only way I can get any gear at all is wait for weeks or longer for some random person to respond to my trade request on a third party website, who will probably just try to scam me anyway if I even had anything worth trading in the first place?
At least there's Grim Dawn for whenever I have an itch for this sort of game.
I tried it and played for 9 hours with a friend and beat the main story, then was told this is something you have to repeat with every league, wherein you spend hours theorycrafting a build on the autistically large skill tree. It sounded like pure unfun autism and I play cataclysm, space station and dwarf fort.
I don't think so, I've had plenty of fun with ARPGs, what I've realised is what live service online games aren't for me anymore. The whole league structure doesn't appeal to me at all.
i love how theres a lot of drama between poe streamers on twitter lately, first the ghazzy drama when every streamer attempted to cancel him and now the jungroan vs kobe arc
I liked the game when you could run pretty much any build and get lvl 100, even in hardcore, without much difficulty. Now you need to complete a huge checklist of defenses just to not get instantly one shot and that's in addition to needing millions of dps just to be able to map comfortably.
every single build I've played in history of poe was nerfed to the ground on the very next league.
Enough is enough, I'm buying d4 when it'll be out and won't look back at whatever slop you've cooked up with "poe2"
>having to stack like 4+ auras for a build or you die >regret point system just frickin sucks man >trading forces me to pay attention at all times so some homosexual chink or russian doesnt scam me >crafting autism
i'm looking forward to poe2 and if it starts off anything like current poe i'm never playing it again
I'm glad he bugs you, Cyberpunk and 76 are both unironically better than POE ever was. I didn't even pay for either of them, and I actually enjoyed my time in those games.
I'm beginning to think this guy doesn't actually exist and anyone with a specific type of criticism is just labelled as that guy? Granted, this is the vert poe thread I've gone into. Also save us both some braincells and don't.
I remember that moron Ashur couldn't accept that raider was tankier and better than jugg in 3.14, he literally couldn't comprehend that his "tank" ascendancy was being outtanked by a fricking zoom zoom ascendancy lel
Never played it but when I watch occasionally it seems to lack anything I recognise as gameplay. >project an aura of damage >run through the map and watch enemies fall down >1000 items drop, pick up 2-5 of them
Bloat.
This
Also I don't like the crafting systems anymore, and it feels like orb crafting -which was one of the things I really liked about the game because it was actually unique - got completely gutted. I wish they reduced the number of tiers for each mod so we could more reliably orb craft, and I also wish there was less loot overall in the game, and that the game was slower overall (combat wise).
I still remember when it was not uncommon to end act 3 with mostly blue items. Now you end act 1 usually completely yellow. The game is still fun though, and I will definitely play 2 because of the socket changes. I like a lot of things like delve and so on, for me it's just the itemization that really needs a big overhaul. For reference, I started playing when dominus came out.
Also I never liked flasks.
>Also I never liked flasks.
same
thank god for instilling orbs
but the period before you get a full set of auto flasks is fricking awful
I didn't like instilling orbs either and was VERY disappointed when I learned about them. Problem I have with them is that they're something you can use in place of something BETTER you could've used, so it's basically like
>Oh, you don't like flasks? Ok, well, here's a solution so you don't have to work with flasks as much. Oh and for the people who do like flasks, we're just going to make them more powerful, but you don't get that 🙂
I just fundamentally think the flask system is shit
What reducing the number of tiers would do as well is make divine orbs better.
>so why is Ganker mad that a developer actively fricks over casuals?
That's a really poor read on all of this. If anything crafting is great for casual players, and I don't want it in the game. Read
>nerfing everything but buffing mobs
This is false. The game has been on a powercreep ramp for a long long time now, but people like this still cry for more accessibility and GGG keeps giving it to them, gutting the itemization in the process. Items are the flesh and blood of this game, and they're in a really bad state.
Nowadays every time I see some nice art I'm like, was this made by AI, and I hate it.
Revisionist history
Oh yea they buffed everything for years and suddenly they're taking away stuff.
Itemization has been the same for ever now only that they took away base skills from some ascendancies and put them onto gear.
That shift in power doesn't mean jack shit, only that it takes longer to get there. It is not false at all.
A company is not your friend
>This is false. The game has been on a powercreep ramp for a long long time now,
Shut the frick up, people always make this shit argument and its wildly untrue.
>nooo powercreep though, see we added an influence mod and made t1 rolls better and blahblahblah a million extreme high end things
Powercreep at the low end? On the tree? On gems? Doesn't exist, never gets added.
The power creep is all "aspirational" dogshit that nobody generally gets, so it doesn't functionally exist and cannot ever be used as any kind of argument to justify buffing monsters or nerfing accessible power.
Remember when dominous and malachai were hard bosses who could actually kill you? These days a beginner can go through acts 1 - 5 without a chest piece.
Get real.
>reduced the number of tiers
But then you might accidentally get something good.
>flasks
Just get mageblood :^)
Honestly, just think about how shit your game has to be when there are entire channels making a living of posting compilations of people getting lucky doing the most basic stuff.
What did they do to flasks?
My mouse has 3 clicks(technically 4 with mousewheell) and I just macrod them all with a small random few millisecond delay between each press which I know was technically against TOS but frick pianoing flasks
you can enchant them to automatically activate on certain conditions, most people use "When flask charges reach full" which fully automates them and you don't have to piano any more
>it's fun until I clear the Atlas once and my gear is too good for random rares to be upgrades anymore.
this is where i usually get stuck too though i do a bit of syndicate and metamod crafting to get some good stuff
but after that the upgrades come so few and far between i usually just reroll or quit
>Also I never liked flasks.
>most coveted item in the game just makes flask permanent items and it's coveted because it just fixes their dogshit designed system
genuine incompetent designers
Surprised they aren't selling "officially approved" macros.
You buy it and it opens up an option in the config to bind several keys to a single button. Of course the max is 4 binds, because FRICK YOU.
>and it feels like orb crafting -which was one of the things I really liked about the game because it was actually unique - got completely gutted.
Orb crafting is some 3 IQ slot machine moron shit
>aurastack or get oneshot(you will get oneshot anyway)
>lets nerf every fun build to the ground so people have to play rf or trapper for the 4th league in a row
I hate how PoE handles auras, I wish they were more like curses where you had to explicitly build to have one and your starting count was zero. No one really has to go out of their way to run one or two auras on their character so every build winds up having one.
An aura cap would actually be really cool. Mana reservation is an awful design in its current state. Literally every build has to stack reservation efficiency to fit all the auras while your mana pool is mostly irrelevant. You shouldn't be able to just reserve all your mana minus the cost of using your main skill once with no drawbacks. Having 20 unreserved mana doesn't affect 99% of builds, since you can just use an enduring potion if somehow you can't outregen your casts. Having an excess of mana beyond that is useless, since even if you do run into the only source of mana drain in the game, you can just blood magic dash out.
If you really need to keep the mechanic, reservation efficiency needs to be removed and/or reservation should also reduce all sources of mana regeneration by a percentage based on total reservation, so you can't just reserve 95% of your mana and still cast your damage skill at full speed without some serious investment in mana regen or blood magic.
too complicated to figure out how to build a character with the end result being that character spamming one attack
have you ever played a build which needs a lot of buttons? it fricking sucks ass
make a bfbb character and see how much you want engaging multi button gameplay
bf, bb, focus, withering step, plague bearer, mark/curse, shield dash, travel skill, vms
>have you ever played a build which needs a lot of buttons? it fricking sucks ass
Because their designers are incompetent
>oh hey you can use the second bar and rebind the buttons
okay cool that's a start, but now what happens when you need to actually see the cooldowns and availability of more than 8 skills
>idk i guess lol
Their ui is fricking atrocious
Too much bloat and the last like 5? legaues have had next to no balance changes, so the same skills are in the meta while the rest are just garbage.
Every single map you do can have like 12 different past league mechanics on it causing your map to take 8~10 minutes depending on what you get instead of 1~2. Some of them are mandatory if you want to make any form of currency as well. You have to build your atlas super specifically and farm this SINGLE thing to have any chance at acquiring drops that are worth a shit.
There's virtually no reason to pick up random rares on the floor once you're beyond them. They don't sell, they don't get rolled well. All you do is filter anything below i84?87? and certain bases, and that only matters if you intend to do the arduous task of crafting them. PoE crafting is god awful and they keep making it worse.
It takes 2+ trades to buy divines with chaos due to divines being close to 300c the past few leagues, ever since they replaced exalts.
Exalts are now virtually worthless, nobody really even uses them as they're way too RNG based to be worth it.
The MTX is predatory and way too expensive to be worth it, and that's coming from someone who has spent 1k+ usd on it. I'm a gay. It's not worth it AT ALL.
The game does NOT reward your time unless you intend to input streamer-tier hours, i'm talking 12+ hours a day, for at the very least a third of the league.
Making alts is ridiculously time consuming unless you learn to speedrun the campaign, and even then for a moderately decent time that's still 5~8 hours of just purely leveling a character. Then there's having to do labs all over again every character.
Next you're gated by either getting lucky with currency, drops, or getting lucky with fusings because 6 linking your chest/weapon is absolutly required to do any form of end game content or high maps for the average player. (No, you with 1k+ hours, you're not the average player.)
It's tiresome. It doesn't reward your time.
>Every single map you do can have like 12 different past league mechanics
fix your atlas
>There's virtually no reason to pick up random rares on the floor once you're beyond them. They don't sell, they don't get rolled well.
you're in red maps and dont need gear anymore shocking you dont pick up everything. you wanting PERFECT items =/= bad rares
>PoE crafting is god awful and they keep making it worse.
harvest was a mistake now shitters like you want perfect items all the time
>It takes 2+ trades to buy divines with chaos due to divines being close to 300c the past few leagues, ever since they replaced exalts.
so? this is just b***hing to b***h
>Exalts are now virtually worthless, nobody really even uses them as they're way too RNG based to be worth it.
slam israeliteels/clusters/eyes all the time so does my guild
>The MTX is predatory and way too expensive to be worth it, and that's coming from someone who has spent 1k+ usd on it.
nibba its fricking cosmetics, only thing you NEED is a money tab thats 10$. how you gunna be mad when you're the moron spending money?
>The game does NOT reward your time unless you intend to input streamer-tier hours
league lasts 3-4 months, why is it weird a dungeon crawling game expects you to farm and play it to get rewards
>Making alts is ridiculously time consuming unless you learn to speedrun the campaign, Then there's having to do labs all over again every character.
confirmed not played in years, it should take you 4, if you played the game you should know the acts.
>6 linking your chest/weapon is absolutely required to do any form of end game content or high maps for the average player.
you can do all content with a 5link
only correct thing you posted was same meta for 5 leagues but your post just screams "i look at the subreddit all the time to get mad instead of playing"
2/10
You are a neet, for sure. I know your kind. You made the game your job and obsession, with 90 hours weekly play time, calling it not time intensive. Bet you are going to come back with muh handed everything on a silver plate immediately.
no one said it wasnt time intensive, im asking why your shocked a company called GRINDING GEAR GAMES made a grinding game?
gaming is all i do after work thats easy 4-7 hours depending on gymday
absolutely MAZED
>nooo grinding is all the same, there are no levels of it and its all fine
moron. huge swathes of games are 'grinding' games, how come they manage to be fun, engaging and rewarding for your time spent grinding and poe fails miserably? because the grind isn't eternal, the grind rewards you constantly and not once in a blue moon.
holy frick i can grind in d2 and get more good drops in a week than grinding in poe will give you in 3 months.
i can boot up disgaea 5 and grind to my hearts content, and have fun doing it because it's not a fricking slot machine with worse odds than all of vegas combined lmao.
defending this shitheap company is laugable
underrated post
You're right, that's why I quit. I had to constantly grind, download 3p shit, deal with c**ts and buttholes, do the same in trade, reroll bad maps, die to bullshit, and replay campaign+trials over and over and over again.....to START to have fun.
I realized the game sucked wiener because I couldn't even really start to play it until I hit level 95 and put several exalts into gear to havea decent build, and by then I had struggled into red maps and was gated by drops for end game content.
There was zero point, no satifaction. I realized it was basically like a job where I grinded my life away to enjoy it only at the end, if that. And then I thought "why the frick am I doing this, I could be grinding the slots/markets/jobs IRL and actually have a life worth living while I play actual fun games on the side.
So I quit and never looked back.
This is probably how everyone left the maze.
After a long hiatus, I tried the endless delve event, and my entire friend list from the early days is dead except for one freak.
Can't imagine ever really getting back to it.
Why would anyone on their own become a wagie?
Oh, it's that mazed moron NEET from the general, you really go around defending bald fricking moron's diarrhea mess all day when you're not playing poopsock, the game, huh?
>unironically defending trade in this game
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
lol
i have no idea who that is lmao imagine letting some name gay from generals live rent free
>still acts like a MAZED moronic loser who slobs on BFR's bald knob
>thinks he has any room to brag
lmao, play a game that requires skill or is actually good, you're hopelessly addicted to a fake casino.
nice of you to alert us of your presence, moron
I realized that Diablo clones are all pretty fricking boring numbers games. I'd rather spend my time with a game that has an actual skill ceiling than one that is all about understanding how to exploit poorly implemented mechanics.
I got my headhunter and mageblood so I got bored. Chris is entirely correct about not giving the player what they really want.
>I got my headhunter and mageblood so I got bored. Chris is entirely correct about not giving the player what they really want.
moron, out of the 50% of the launch playerbase that quit in under a week, how many got magebloods? shockingly, looks like almost none and yet they all still quit. curious huh, really makes you think.
RMT homosexual
even no life streamers who play 16h per day still dont have HH + mageblood
How would you not have one so far if you tried? It's already a month into the league.
explain to me who you got them?
unless your in a 6 man farming froup playing 10+ hour/day i dont belive you
I always play solo and I make like 4-6 div an hour minimum farming something I feel like farming. Simulacrums and whathaveyou. It's not like it takes that long if you just sit down and farm. 4 divs and hour and you'll have 200 in 5 days if you play 10 hours a day.
People just suck at grinding these days.
>I always play solo and I make like 4-6 div an hour minimum farming something I feel like farming
Oh its one of these homosexuals who sells everything in the world and pretends that's normal lmao. "yeah i have nothing left to actually play the game, i sold all my maps and everything, but i have currency okay, no i wont factor in the time i have to spend pricing and trading all this garbage to my math, and no i wont factor in the actual time playing a character on launch up to the point where i can actually farm wave 30 simulacrums and have the currency already to buy them in bulk"
What the frick are you talking about?
>Oh its one of these homosexuals who sells everything in the world and pretends that's normal lmao
You won't make a profit if you don't sell things?
>"yeah i have nothing left to actually play the game, i sold all my maps and everything
What are you talking about? What do you need to play the game? Just sell all your scarabs EXCEPT the ones you're going to use? Just don't sell the maps you want to run?
>no i wont factor in the time i have to spend pricing and trading all this garbage to my math
You can use a tool to price your entire fossil/whatever stash tab in 10 seconds and then you just x0,8 the price and it sells instantly.
>and no i wont factor in the actual time playing a character on launch up to the point where i can actually farm wave 30 simulacrums and have the currency already to buy them in bulk"
Getting to the point where I can farm what I want to farm takes me 2 weeks tops. In Expedition I had a HH on week 2 just by doing the logbooks because people were too fricking stupid to realize they printed money, or were just too stupid to run them at all.
I bet he's one of those "on paper" gays who makes spreadsheets of his drops but never actualy gets anyone to buy his shit at the prices he envisions if at all.
Dude, people are getting them in a week by autistically farming cards and doing harvest cloning.
>Dude, people are getting them in a week by autistically farming cards and doing harvest cloning.
And for every person that gets one that way, you have dozens that fail to get one, do you not understand? Lol
I don't play this game anymore but you're a moron. People get HHs/Magebloods week 1 by farming.
>week 1 HH/mage
yeah if you RMT, like all the top streamers (except Quin69, i love that moron)
i'm not interested in playing the same game forever
Went to shit after Ritual league.
>play bleedquake leap slam jugg in ritual
>be absolute god
>fun as frick to hop into a pack, slam, leap away
>they basically gut the entire build AND earthquake itself into the absolute ground and ever since then slams have been dog ass
I'm pretty mad. I love the slam playstyle. Oneshotting bosses with tec slam was great fun. Pretty much everyone will tell you 3.13 and 3.14 were fantastic, 3.14 being less so, but man 3.13 was great.
Same, I played an EQ jugg that did like 6 million damage a hit with a blue axe, the build wasn't flawless but it was fun and required next to no gear. And then they shitted up slams across the board, removing like 60% of the build's damage in one swoop.
im hcssf player and everything can kill me suddenly, theres no fkin balance at all
>did you run grace/determination/defiance banner?
>is your max res 80?
>do you have maxed chaos res?
>are you ailment immune?
>do you have good recovery?
>what about spell suppression?
>corpse removal?
if you answered no to any of the above, good luck. oh, and the list will continue to expand further down the road so expect more 1 shots. Meanwhile, would you like a mystery box for $2?
a smart person would realize you need all of that because players keep wanting powercreep and layering threats is the only thing that can kill a player nowadays.
An idiot looks at all of that and goes "wow, I cant believe I needa ll of this" while a normal person goes "wtf the game allows you to have a bunch of armor, evasion, 80% elemental resistance and 75% chaos resistance, immunity to ailments, high regen, and 50% less spell damage taken???"
>allows
How fricking magnanimous of it
>a smart person would realize you need all of that because players keep wanting powercreep and layering threats is the only thing that can kill a player nowadays.
yes.
>An idiot looks at all of that and goes "wow, I cant believe I needa ll of this" while a normal person goes "wtf the game allows you to have a bunch of armor, evasion, 80% elemental resistance and 75% chaos resistance, immunity to ailments, high regen, and 50% less spell damage taken???"
no. you don't understand.
you NEED as in REQUIRE
max resist
defensive aura
large health pool
ailment immunity if not mitigation
AND an extra defensive layer of either MOM or suppression or block
just so you DONT get one shot in juiced end game content if not some bosses.
and that's crazy. that's absolutely crazy. getting killed fast is fine. perfectly acceptable.
getting deleted off screen or by surprise. is NEVER ok.
>ur stupid if you recognize that you need 20 million defensive layers to not die in one hit
>u even dumberer if you realize you still die in two hits with all this and offense zoom zoom is the only real counter to it
loooooooooooool
i beat kitava
Can someone explain what happened with PoE 2? It's the perfect way to wipe the slate clean but it's ages since they even mentioned it
>Early version of the game was the best itaration
Anyone knows how i can get it?
This. PoE was best when there were only five acts and Bunny was the final boss.
2 acts*, zoomer moron.
this looks so much better than current version wtf
soul
>troony want shitty d2 clone
its one dimensional as frick
and it gets even more flat the more you play
there are no builds, only skills that you crack up through bloated systems
its a lame game and PoE 2 will be as well
the game is too fast but i guess that's what the zoomers want, it's not for me though. once upon a time there was some actual skill required
What's with this weird double-think I see everywhere
Loved it when it had more of a sandbox approach and didn't cater to neets and streamers exclusively. Nobody likes games that increase grind every six months to never seen heights. Frick them and let them die.
I have not "finished" leveling a character once in path of exile.
Chris cucked to reddit again.
was chris wilson really that upset over a kid calling him names he literally fired him?
Honestly, no particular reason. I think it’s normal to move on from games after putting 100-500 hours into them.
The problem is that Chris wants it to be a game you can play forever. If you get over the initial hurdle but leave with under 1k hours he's doing things very wrong.
As i get higher wages and busier my brain cannoy take the amount of bloat that is in poe anymore. I actually went back to diablo3 and enjoy chilling with my thorn build. Surprisingly chat still have some ppl left and they were always kind and helpful like some sort of diablo greybeards.
The main reason is that my PC can't run the game anymore.
Other than that, I think they tipped their hand with the nerfs these last few leagues. They're not incompetent, they just really, really hate (You) for playing their game.
Because Baldo took a shit on it and it sucks now
Skill balance mostly. There's no reason to have 200 skills if you want 195 of them to feel like shit, even with gear.
Chris is trying to make this game into something that never existed (somehow he thinks Diablo 2 was a hardcore game and he should emulate that fictional version of that game)
why does ggg think they need to balance the game like it's pvp?
Yep exactly. It's a single player game first and foremost but for reasons unknown they really want to control the power of skills that are being used.
Maybe they think that all the gauntlet races etc. are the way to make PoE even more popular (through esports) and that requires this heavy handed balancing, but that's just moronic. people who like this genre of games already found PoE, games of this type have some specific requirements on the players for them to enjoy (mostly people who have lots of free time and the will to grind)
>but for reasons unknown they really want to control the power of skills that are being used
Reasons are well known, they want player to spend more time playing per league, because bald moron thinks it translates to more revenue. He sees player clearing content of 3 month league in 3 weeks and quitting as personal affront and business failure. This is further aggraveted by them not looking at any players except twitch streamers who play poe as full time job.
Moreover, they are not even trying to be subtle with this and solve fine balance between player's power and player's willingness to play this shit to maximize related metrics, they are extremely brash and heavy-handed in their attempts. 3.15, update that signified game passing its peak and beginning of its death, was described as "we intend to reduce player speed by 40%". If you have eyes you should see the attempt to slap insulting 40% MORE modifier on all padding in the game, and therefore player time per league. However they absurdly overestimated just how much people are addicted to their clicker, and as a result whole thing crashed and burned.
Bald moron unironically reads asiatic game design papers, which tell him that players quite game if they enjoy it, and that player must be eternally frustrated for maximum monetary gains. It seems that he actually believes those papers.
GGG gradually became one of those companies which hate their customer, but at the same time feel entitled to his money.
bc you cant balance a shit, Chris. Now go back to sucking chinks dick
It was infuriating to play a single player game on the publisher's schedule instead of, you know, mine. The idea of leages is cancer.
4 months isnt enough for you to play a game you scum?
See, you're already whipped into shape like a b***h by GGG. Why should I only have 4 months for this content? Please, tell me, what benefit to me as a player is there in removing old leagues?
Because a build is no longer fun after playing it for 4 months unless you're severely autistic. It's time to start over and try something different.
I can make that decision myself without being forced into it by daddy publisher. You are actively arguing for less control for yourself. You are a mental cuckold.
Game was already tedious and felt like you were constantly battling the different timewaste systems of the devs, then 3.15 happened which considerably slowed down the player progression while also increasing timewaste systems instead of cutting down on it.
That's when I left, it became way too tedious and felt pointless unless you can and want to no-life it.
>so completely baffled on how to fix their game they simply stop making balance updates
I fricking kneel (and promptly uninstall)
Path of Exile has been developed in a way to appeal to elite players and streamers for the last 5-7 years. Game has been bloated beyond recognition. It's not longer a video game but a life-style. This is not to say that it can't be played casually but then you have to come to terms you will not be able to complete end game content and you might not even see some of the current leagues content as well.
Game got bloated, I got older. I cannot justify playing it for 200h for first 2 weeks of the game if I want to be successful.
Game as a lifestyle fits quite well considering how much time they are asking you to put in to get anywhere. And then all the shenanigans like third party software and so on surrounding the game that suckers out time from you again.
I forgot to mention that. Game goes out of its way to be obtuse and to hide information from players. In game information is non-existant, patch notes are bare at best. You should not depend on goodwill from community to data mine your game and to keep up to date wiki and use that as base line knowledge.
If PoE community did not have so many passionate fans the game would be dead long ago. I couldn't imagine playing the game without 3rd party tools like PoB, program for trade and lua scripts.
It seems that GGG is riding their wave until first serious competitor emerges, baring that competitor does not shoot themself into the foot with P2W garbage.Sadly, that excludes all Asian developers in start.
absolutely, if you aren't jumping into the league playing the "OP" league starter of the season you are going to have a bad time, either through the league mechanic being a bad match or somehow someway your build got hit by the nerfbat, through items, gems, or even skills directly.
it honestly baffles me.... instead of "taking away" aka nerfing every season. why doesn't GGG "encourage" a certain build or playstyle each season with buffs/items/upgrades then the following season if the buffs were too much then bring them down a bit while simultaneously promoting another playstyle.
for example you gents were definitely not the only ones who were REALLY happy with SLAM league, it was very cool with the slam buffs and upgrades.
like what's stopping GGG from making a sword league, axe league, fire league. etc. that would be a ton more fun to look forward to. as opposed to waking up before league start and reading that your entire ascendancy got nerfed into the ground until they can figure out what to do with it because it's too tanky/does too much damage.
while they just ignore every single fricking thing else.
>>it honestly baffles me.... instead of "taking away" aka nerfing every season. why doesn't GGG "encourage" a certain build or playstyle each season with buffs/items/upgrades then the following season if the buffs were too much then bring them down a bit while simultaneously promoting another playstyle.
They used to do that, in a way. For example, Legion league also got melee rebalance with new slam skills, war cries and other stuff. Synthesis league had chaos skill rebalance and you got curse skills rebalance in 3.20. It's definitely noticeable that GGG invests less development time in current version on the game while they are working on Poe 2.
If Poe 2 turns bad then I'm not sure what could GGG do to save their game.
psa chris has said the game is acts 1-10, anything after that is extra and not every build should clear redmaps or hardest content.
you're way too obsessed with poe.ninja builds and you feel like you HAVE to farm red maps full juiced or you're playing wrong and thats just cringe
but you see, that's actually total bullshit. it's one thing to SAY the game is acts 1-10 and anything after is extra.
>then turn around and lock over 50% of the game's content, achievements, rewards in "post game" content. of which you then have "elite" content that barely anyone gets to see with their own voicelines, and story, hidden at the very tippy top of game.
saying anything past kitava is "bonus" content is disingenuous because if that was the case then you should be able to fully unlock achievements off story content alone.
>psa chris has said the game is acts 1-10, anything after that is extra and not every build should clear redmaps or hardest content.
lmao, nobody plays this game for the campaign after doing it once moron, everybody knows this, even the lying moron himself
>you're way too obsessed with poe.ninja builds and you feel like you HAVE to farm red maps full juiced or you're playing wrong and thats just cringe
You literally cannnot get into red maps with 90% of the skills unless you already had a league starter that was cheap and farmed up mirror tier gear asshat, how deep do you have bald frickingn morons shaft lodged in your throat?
chris also said not every skill will be good enough for end game and yes red maps are endgame content. he also said he only wants 15% of players to do endgame content like redmaps and beyond
harvest brought a lot of the wrong people and they are still trying to slow the game down for poe2/recover from it
this is the gameplay chris wants us to go back too, the zoom got away from him but he cant take it away instantly
>chris also said not every skill will be good enough for end game and yes red maps are endgame content. he also said he only wants 15% of players to do endgame content like redmaps and beyond
No, he said he wanted endgame to be "aspirational content" lmfao, followed it up with something like he wanted players to never be able to get there and only see streamers do it, because he's a lunatic.
>harvest brought a lot of the wrong people and they are still trying to slow the game down for poe2/recover from it
Harvest allowed your average joe to get to do the shit streamers could do without interacting with the dogshit playerbase, which trigger baldo into throwing a tantrum.
Zoom zoom meta is still the only meta that exists, and he hasn't slowed the game down a bit for the streamers and RMT homosexuals. In case you haven't noticed it yet, he's a sociopathic liar with a giant ego.
>chris also said not every skill will be good enough for end game
And there's why people are quitting
Fricking moron in charge of game direction
game is acts 1-10, if the game makes you that mad leave the thread so people that like it can talk about it.
what should my next char be when i rip? playing minions atm and just rolling redmaps ez
Acts has always been a mandatory tutorial mode and you know it
im explaining how chris views the game read the thread
You're stating the idiot lead dev's opinion as an objective fact and telling me to leave if I disagree with his opinion
She got sick of the constant minion nerfs and said it wasn't really a game she wanted to play anymore
ty for spoonfeed
RIP kay
yes the person that made the game > your Ganker shitpost take
Not just my take, and the idiot who made the game isn't immune to criticism
Less people are playing and for less time, chris wilson will undo every stride he's made if he's allowed to keep forcing his vision of the game upon it
>so anally pained he has to switch to shitposting
lmao, if only you spent the time on poe and being a shitposting NEET on useful things you WOULDN'T be a complete loser!
nobody said that, one person said D4 would be shit, and it's only positive would be giving this garbage game a mercy killing.
You explicitly aren't, you demanded we leave so only people who "like" it can talk about it, and now you're switching feet since you got called out.
I'll let you in on a secret, that mentality got everyone to leave, which is why retention's been the lowest it's ever been and baldo won't show statistics or numbers and keeps lying about MUH LAUNCHER STATS. The only reason people are playing still is because it's the only ARPG left, and once D4 comes out, even when it's shit, this game will cease to exist.
I will spit on it's grave too, good riddence, and frick that bald homosexual. Guy deserves to be mutilated for the shit he does to people, or at least taxed to death because he's running a virtual casino and not being charged as such.
>game is acts 1-10,
lmfao it's not and you know it you dishonest NEET loser
>he's a hardcuck as well
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Harvest was nothing but good, anyone complaining about it is immediately outed as a streamer, 24/7 flipper trader or no life homosexual, because it enabled the ordinary player to do what streamers do and thus not have to watch, to craft themselves and thus not have to interact with market homosexuals, and to do it in a much more reasonable time period with more reasonable outcomes which makes the no life homosexuals mad they wasted time that harvest players didn't have to waste :^)
And chris will never be able to slow down the game to that, nice delusion. Here's the thing, I am okay with fighting a thing for 2 minutes - assuming attrition is real, damage is reasonable and the game balance magically gets fixed by ggg hiring a contracting company to do it because they can't do it themselves. BUT, that thing has to drop the same amount of loot as the entire map would. And our bald israeli salesman can't have that, he will shit his pants in anger, and thus people will never accept the slow gameplay because the reward does not even stay at a maintaining level it just keeps going down.
Poe is also cancerous as frick. In every other arpg, things drop, you use them, right? In poe, things don't drop, what they do is insidiously have a million forms of currency that drop and then those can be used to gamble afterwards, so the drop still makes the player feel good but what has actually dropped is NOTHING AT ALL, a gambling token is not a real drop they've just tricked you into thinking its a real drop when the overwhelming majority of them just poof into nothing.
Deterministically with 100% certainty crafting 6x T1 modded items, including and/or preserving powerful influence and essence mods, is too much.
Chris, please show how people made these supposed god items en masses.
>Deterministically with 100% certainty crafting 6x T1 modded items, including and/or preserving powerful influence and essence mods, is too much.
No it isn't, because doing that example took people hundreds upon hundreds of exalts to do. That's fine
And people word this moronicly, "deterministically" does not mean what it implies it means to the reader. If you want to slam t1 life, it's deterministic only in the sense that you can keep removing it and re-doing it, at large cost, until you get it. This is a GOOD thing for 99% of players. It does not mean "yeah it'll just add life, and t1 life at that, every time np"
However let me just say, I don't give two fricks about influence and high end power. Literally delete all influence mods from the game, I will not care, this is exactly where they should be chopping 'power creep' when they b***h about it, not gems, not accessible power, but top end moron 'aspirational' power that almost nobody cares about except their homosexual streamers.
>Deterministically with 100% certainty crafting 6x T1 modded items, including and/or preserving powerful influence and essence mods, is too much.
It really wasn't because not only could most people not craft that shit, but it allowed all items to go down in price and for those that didn't want to pay, you could craft similar things yourself, leading to build variety and fun without having to jerk off in trade for hundreds of hours.
Imagine being able to PLAY POE.
Tencent.
HEY CHRIS BALDS WILSON
I"D PAY YOU FOR AN OFFLINE VERSION
YOU STUPID BAD FRICK
LOOL
LMAO
i genuinely STILL like path of exile granted....
>if i don't play the FOTM build or the same ass boring meta build i can't reach end game
>if i DO play the fotm/meta build and reach end game it quite literally turns into a "grind" for currency
weird complaint i know, since the whole objective of the game is to be a time sink and grind for power. but is it too much to ask to have fun while doing it? i am not a high level player and i am definitely not a pro so take my complaints as just that, a noob's sour grapes.
if i am not stacking 3 defensive layers to significant levels, my health bar will simply disappear doing end game content
if i am not stacking 1 type of damage/relying on one gimmick(feature) i will be stuck in weaker content due to quite literal massive health pools stopping you.
poe gives you so many options but at the end of the day it's all just an illusion, exile.
i was considering doing brutal difficulty, but honestly that level of difficulty isn't even fun for me.
then there's the league content.... it's very hit or miss. this league was a miss. the league content quite literally shits on builds every league, and it's never the meta builds.
i come back every season, because you know, i appreciate the game and i do think it's fun. but if the league sucks. i just kill kitava, run some maps, maybe shoot a little further and then stop logging on. the ideas behind this league was cool, but the mechanic shit on my playstyle so i gave up.
kalandras idea was also cool, the rewards were interesting, but it was a bit tedious so i gave that one up as well. sentinel was interesting, i kinda liked it but it was a bit bland, DEMON league was cool in every way i stuck around for that one.
idk, GGG seems to drop the ball every now and then but i think overall poe does improve.
i just wish their "balancing" vision wasn't nerf everything into the ground.
48 8 36
discord raid i see
Considering how social outcasts and hunchbacks made this game their life, it's easy to see why they jump to to the rescue when ever a thread pops up.
got tired of the mods being inconsistent homosexuals as well as just losing interest after the big ass tower
Don't feel like keeping up with the game after the one actually viable crafting mechanic got removed because the developer is a manchild. Also hit decoration cap on my base
ive been playing since bestiary and every new league they just kept adding more and more ways to grind into the game but it didnt feel good to me, it felt like a chore. i stopped playing before the harvest came out then returned to try the game once more in the expedition but just straight up hated the league mechanic as it was back then and quit once and for all. i know that with the current atlas tree you're able to actually choose what kind of content you'd like to do and you are not obligated to do anything you hate but back when i was playing, skipping any piece of content and grind meant getting less profit or chance for a good loot so not doing everything felt like major underperformance. at this point when i think about returning i would only like to play SSF to truly experience the progress instead of brainlessly grinding everything that yields the most profit to eventually buy all the items i want from others because why bother trying to grind things yourself, why bother trying to craft items yourself if you can just get the raw currency and pay someone else for it. trade fricking sucks but the amount of game knowledge and sheer autism that goes into playing SSF is overwhelming so i just prefer to not play the game and hope that poe2 will be good, which i highly doubt
kek, the reddit pasta
he not trying to hide anymore
I tried it 3 times when it first came out and every time I got bored pretty fast.
I just don't understand the appeal
build autism simulator
Aren't all bajillion upgrades in the skill tree have description like "+2% to the left knee angle when it rains"?
fricking stupid
>"+2% to the left knee angle when it rains"
holy shit i laughed way harder at this than i should have
It used to be about picking a skill and changing it mechanically, but these days it's just about picking [strongest skill] and stacking as many multipliers as you can.
Monsters get everything for free, of course.
Best game to be a summoner in, but apparently they nerfed minions to the ground so frick them.
I beat the game. It was fun, I'd recommend it.
>b-but maps!
Post-game isn't the real game.
>I beat the game. It was fun, I'd recommend it.
>b-but maps!
>Post-game isn't the real game.
do
do your homework troony lmao
>you're a troony if you don't develop a troony speedrun tier obsession with a bad game
lmao you can't make it up
>literally nerf all player damage skills by 50-60% across the board a year ago
>continue to nerf skills for the past year
>enemies meanwhile have just gotten stronger and stronger
The game has devolved from the zoom zoom meta which was janky but fun into the "play one of three builds or die repeatedly and suffer" one.
Felt hollow.
PoE literally requires you to play it as a lifestyle to get anywhere in it. A few years ago you could just zoom zoom through acts and into maps just fine, now if you don't dump at least 1000 hours per league you probably won't even see some of the league mechanics.
Any game that requires you to play it to the exclusion of all other games (and indeed having a life in general) is a bad game. People like to meme about it but this may be the only game out there that has a playerbase primarily composed of actual soulless NEETs. It's doubly ironic because they put more money into actual mindless busywork and grinding than most people do into actual jobs that earn them money.
I only played it for like a week after it first released years ago. I literally don't remember. I guess it wasn't doing it for me.
Sick and tired of the shitty balance and the shitty community, and the amount of shit you have to do to make a build just for general mapping now
No matter what skill you play you'll get bombarded with people ridiculing you for not going the skill that GGG graciously allows to clear pineapples with 0 budget this patch. Unless you play that skill+character of course, in which case when you die you get ridiculed for letting yourself die on an ezmode build
Plus people have always defended 99% of skills being shit by saying "just invest in them bro" but it costs more and more exalts - sorry, divines, to get a build running with each patch. Again because of the amount of SHIT you have to check off just to survive each map without dying, let alone clearing fast.
Challenge rewards have actually gotten better but I don't want to get them because I don't want to play a shit fricking game to do it. It's so frustrating to play now
The truth is that the game didn't fundamentally change, players did. They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week or have the game "force" equality through daily quests or some shit. Players just get massive fomo when they see other people get rich and powerful while they're still weak (because they only played two hours that week)
I have never had a problem doing 38/40 achievements casually over the course of a month. There are just too many FOTM games these days and people don't want to be stuck playing one game for too long. Diablo 2 literally came out again with a new skin, the exact same game, and it had about the same shelf life as a single Path of Exile league because of this.
Fricking dishonest post. Builds that people loved to play got deleted en masses, the grind is ever-increasing with each league, so you need more time to get to the point you were last league.
>The truth is that the game didn't fundamentally change, players did. They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week or have the game "force" equality through daily quests or some shit. Players just get massive fomo when they see other people get rich and powerful while they're still weak (because they only played two hours that week)
Yes you're poor because you didn't NEET poopsock your life away to baldo's game, and not because you're playing against RMT guilds, streamer cabals, or baldo himself (because he still runs an RMT site for his own game) Never mind the fact that he modifies loot seeds based on how much you buy, if you stream, if you bot, etc (he admited to as much, doubt he'd admit actual P2W until he got indicted to do so)
This ain't even covering your dishonesty about the "players changing" literally every build I liked got gutted, I'm not alone, but you will be when everyone abandons the game, as they have been doing en masse.
>I have never had a problem doing 38/40 achievements casually over the course of a month.
Ah, you're a poopsock NEET or one of those gays that pays for challenges, carry on, you're too mazed to reasonably talk to.
>They want to be able to complete literally everything in one week
because the game is fricking boring. do you understand the concept of continuous progression, advancement and exploration?
this is what people find fun. see when you're level 95 already and running 500 mesas in a row because you've done all the maps on the atlas? that's not fun, that will never be fun to almost anyone besides streamers.
i don't care about your shitty challenges or mtx, i care about having fun playing a video game and poe falls off a cliff real fricking fast every time whilst other games do not.
also any companies trying to monopolize your time and say "you can play our game forever!" when its not an mmo are homosexuals in the first place
>continuous progression, advancement and exploration?
Play SSF? The mode is there for you.
>Play SSF?
So the same game, with zero balance or drop changes, except you just take 5x as long to do anything?
Yeah sounds like great fun lmao. Game doesn't respect your time? Here's the solution, play the mode that respects it even less :^)
The league is over once you've done all the atlas maps and ran like 100-150 maps after that, that's it. There's nothing new, progression halts completely, it's just repetition for mostly no payout after that.
what about the oobas
what about the challenges
what about wanting to play different builds for fun
yeah gonna try a fun build
oh look i died 900 times because this build cant get some moronic overcapped defensive trait that has a risk of being severely reduced on map mods.
>what about the oobas
Don't give a shit about wildly overtuned bosses that drop nothing most of the time lad.
>what about the challenges
Don't care about your shitty mtx, the challenges are stupid, killing some map boss whilst hopping on one foot wearing a hat on a tuesday doesn't make the gameplay any more fun or more rewarding.
>what about wanting to play different builds for fun
First of all, I'm not doing the shit tier campaign walking simulator a second time in a league ever again lol. Second of all, the gameplay doesn't change. "hey you press a button that makes a different animation, whilst running the exact same maps, the exact same bosses, the exact same low rewards". Yeah gee, can't fathom why that doesn't appeal to most players lol
>what about the challenges
I remember one time durning the legacy league I decided to do the 36 challenges for the portal mtx
I spent my entire 2 week college break for this shit, it was one of the most painful and unfun grinds I've ever done, having to trade for minor items on poe.trade only added salt to injury. it wasn't that long, it was just really fricking tedios
and that was before the game started going to shit, I can't imagine doing challenges in current PoE.
anyway looking back at this experience now that I no longer play the game, it highlights the biggest issue with the game for me - nothing in this game is worth the time investment, by the time you finally achieve something you'd rather turn back time and spend it on something else rather than baldo casino
why would you do 36 for something that isn't even very good? the only time i've done 36 is for the ritual hideout which is sick as hell
You wanted progression and exploration. Your progression is actually meaningful in SSF and you might get drops that allow you to make meaningful build exploration. Criticism about respecting time is like complaining JRPGs don't respect your time. You know what you're getting into. Take it or leave it.
Doing all your atlas completion shit and a bonus 150 maps on top is probably at the high end of what Chris expects most of the player base to do per league anyway.
Making things slower doesn't make it more meaningful buddy, I dunno who convinced you of that. Jrpgs respect my time just fine, I love jrpgs lmao. I play them, I get drops, I get stronger, I get cool skills, I get new zones, new enemies, constantly until its over. And then I get superbosses. And then it's over, it doesn't tell me "keep playing this game for another 2.5 months but just keep doing the same shit you've done"
Chris's idea of progression is "run 200 maps", my idea of progression is run 5 maps, I want actual progress of my character every 5 maps or whatever, not once a week lol. And there's no "exploration" btw, all they do is recycle the same maps rotating them, the new maps they've made are a) few and b) exclusively really fricking terrible on top. These homosexuals could be shitting out 5 new maps every league and actually making them fun to play, but they don't because they're not a game company, they're a marketing company
because this bald fricking moron refuses to implement auction house
at least do it for the basic currency you dumbfrick
there's just too much shit to collect. i like isometric arpgs but poe has like 40 different tokens to collect and dozens of minigames and other jank
i didnt. i play about 3 weeks of every league.
the game is designed to be played that way.
It's a mess with way too much shit in it, way too fast paced.
Even kay quit for good and it was so sad to see the damage bfr had done to the game.
>Even kay quit
wtf
qrd?
Probably the minions nerf.
wow she looks so awkward and her teeth are fricked up
and she looks kinda old, the skin looks wrinkly
but props to her for mustering up the courage to do a face reveal, I think it just becomes harder the longer you make videos without face
>quit
https://www.patreon.com/kaygaming12
>enjoy quin
HAHAHAHA
no, i guess it's lily now.
literally says they retired on the page. She's still taking simp dollars though, if she even is a she
im Hardcore Solo-Self-Found player and I play the game and don't write essays on the internet about how even though i play the game i hate it
It was a bit too repetitive. It doesnt matter what build you make, the game boiled down to "just click on everything as fast as possible and go to next map". That would have been ok to a degree, if it wasnt such an easy game.
felt like degenerate gambling with bad gameplay and ugly aesthetic
You can tell who is from /poeg/ because every normal Gankerirgin is going "yeah the game was too fast and looked like shit" while poetards want to undo nerfs
>Yo bro, why do you want the game to again like it used to be and what you liked about it? We are the new crowd now! This is our turf!!! What do you mean this game is trying to get d4's combat but doesn't look half the fun? Bald Black personman save me!!!!!
Yeah, everyone is poeg...
it's funnier when you realize it's 49% people who couldn't get into it because it's obtuse shit, and 49% people who used to like it after they got past the obtuse shit, with only 1% defending it being MAZED morons with sunk cost fallacy. I had a thousand+ hours in it and I got out, you'd think they'd do the same.
not even free poster still posts in /poeg/ you zoomer homosexual. the most common complaint about the game was that it was too fast. there's an entirely different player base that plays poe these days. all the diablo 1 fans left when the direction was going to diablo 2
>if you hate a bad game and left the maze you need ~~*help*~~
your game sucks Chris
people who play poe look at this and think this is actually good gameplay lol. Not only that they want even more damage, more speed, and less threats.
>farm items for days just so you can play vampire survivors
It says a lot that people who hate poe right now are waiting for Diablo 4 to come out. They look forward to Diablo 4 lol
No? I would never pay for a blizzard game.
At this point I want poe to go down in flames. Let nothing left of it, but a bad name echoing in the skulls of some moronic whales.
Yes, I was with poe since 2013~.
>Yes, I was with poe since 2013~.
Same timeframe but I don't want it to die, I just want it to be fun again
I just wanted to love this game like I used to, why does that have to be so fricking hard
here
I realized that I do not like playing bad games.
imagine my surprise.
>simp paying 10 buck for poe.ninja copy-pasta build
I've not. Best league in years.
>Frick up the game for years
>Give one glimmer back from all the player autonomy you deleted and the call this a good league
How to get anchored 101.
>Frick up the game for years
They've done no such thing. Your opinion isn't fact.
When did the mass exodus start, with expedition? People must have loved the game so much that they couldn't bear the thought of sticking around.
What mass exodus? Why are you morons making shit up?
>People didn't leave! They liked the constant nerds, and player numbers are better than ever!!!
Cognitive dissonance, and this is outright twitter lib levels of cope
You're the one claiming a mass exodus. I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm going to assume it's just been pretty steady.
go the frick to bed bex
Give PoE2 a shot.
why it's poe+ that is what everyone has been beta testing for at least 2 years now. oh and the vaporware mobile game content to that gets added as league mechanics.
No, Chris will have to pay me several thousand just to play again.
Why bother? It's just a glorified expansion to PoE 1 instead of a brand new fully fresh start separate game.
alzheimers league was the start, but harvest and it's removal fricked it good, even though I didn't care for it.
>player numbers are less than half what they were and league start numbers drop 90% after each leage and get worse every league
>he still believes baldo when he says the launcher numbers are huge
>he doesn't think he's sweating bullets now that china is axing all games and killed tencent
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>Best league in years.
It's just standard buddy, the league mechanic is the worst roguelike in existence, they looked at roguelikes and then did literally every single thing incorrectly somehow, despite infinite examples to draw from. It genuinely has zero fun in the entire thing other than the rewards, which is the opposite of most roguelikes on the planet that are choc full of fun and player power.
Yes, I went into the league fully understanding it's not going to be fricking Slay the Spire or anything close to it.
I hate trading. I hate having to trade for items so much.
didn't play last league at all, played this league for like a week or less tops, it just keeps going down.
the game is a flaming wreck, their desperation with wanting to make sure they kill people no matter what has created a situation where there are so many absolute requirements that your build choices that feel good are extremely limited. no amount of shitty vaal cleave additions will fix that. try playing any build that doesn't have spell suppression and doesn't have 84+ max all res or something. its miserable, even when you have grace, determ, 7k es, whatever, still gonna die
and it takes so long to do anything fun that you feel like you've already beat the fricking game by the time you get to do it unless you buy it, and buying it feels miserable because buying items is the only real way to get upgrades or reach those specific mandatory requirements they've imposed
farm mephisto = no entry cost, takes 1 minute, consistent rewards worth looking at, every few hours you'll get something good
farm uber elder = massive entry cost, takes like 4 mins or some shit due to mandatory dick sucking immunity phases like every boss, drop rate for anything worth a damn is basically zero, just watchers eye gambling. other bosses do not have watchers eyes, so they're worthless due to the same awful drop rates
the game is just a lot of "kill a million monsters and do a million maps for no drops" more than ever
a hundred other reasons, basically they're pretty bad at game design and balance, they've put all their eggs into the poe2 basket and they're purely a marketing company, not a video game company.
you only enjoy the game if you stream and earn money playing 10 hours a day grinding the same mindless shit for lotto wins, or if you are okay with playing like mathil with some shitty 4k life build that dies regularly. protip: most players aren't okay with this, dying regularly severely diminishes their fun
>rolls 3 damage mods and has his armour penalised
>what the frick why am I dying in this map?
moron.
Imagine defending three damage modifiers as being okay game design to one-shot people...
Yes, 2 div builds with the most barebones of defenses shouldn't be able to do maps with 300% more damage without an extremely high risk of dying. Use your brain.
>nooo muh strawman
My build this league, for the record moron, was using like a 7 div chest alone, and it was running temp chains and enfeeble with +50% curse effect too, constant 30% chill on anything, on top of all the other defenses, chaos cap, determ, grace, defiance banner. But it didn't have suppression, impossible to fit, and didn't have max res, impossible to fit, and it didn't have full ailment immunity, impossible to fit, and it didn't have a high block chance i.e 50%+ on both, so it was unfun. It is -mandatory- to have at least suppression, high max res OR block+spell block cap.
>relies on curse defenses
>runs reduced curse efficacy
>what the frick dood I died
You're right about requiring spell suppress though. Just get it. That's just how it is for now.
>Just get it.
Except you can't. Any build using 1-2 uniques in suppression slots that isn't a ranger or shadow? Immediately unattainable.
Templars and witches both have to roll high tier supress on every single piece of gear, which is not reasonable to achieve before they're already 90+ in reds and finished with their character because items with suppress and the other required stats, whether its life, es, res, stats you need etc, are expensive, so the whole time on the way they're just meant to what, die over and over? That ain't fun
Don't facetank and get the suppress you can get until you eventually hit 100%. Play smart. Obviously witches aren't made of one ply just because you can't immediately suppress cap.
most builds are still getting one shot even with mirror tier currency, the game is designed badly. Use your brain.
Mirror-tier builds are often 100m DPS glass canons, so yeah no shit they're going to get one shot. Balanced, tanky builds don't even cost mirrors.
moron, if I have invested the shitton of currency and points into not dying, shocker: I shouldn't be randomly dying to almost anything.
Imagine defending the design that is "yeah you invested into armour on all your items, 2 reservation auras, points on the tree, but oh well this one random mod deletes 70% of your armour xd" lmfao
And then you're gonna try the "well just roll over it/just don't click it/just run away from that rare mob that has that affix" which is when you get told that the same design applies to EVERYTHING, so "just don't click it" becomes "just don't click anything btw" because the amount of your character one single affix deletes is insane vs how much you had to invest to get it.
And if I'm not clicking anything, why am I playing the game moron? Yeah just run all your maps white or blue, never click altars, just mindlessly farm out the treadmill.
That's not actually playing the game, playing the game means engaging with all of it, period. Reroll minus max res maps, reroll whatever mods brick your build, avoid clicking altars that take your res below cap, other than that click literally everything and run damage mods, because THAT IS THE GAME, there is no game if you do not do this, eat a dick 🙂
And you know what, I can do this. 10 mil dps aegis aurora melding max block skeleton mage build did this just fine a few leagues back. And I will accept no less than that level of defensiveness because the game is fricking unfun without it due to balance, it's like playing d2 hell mode but the only mob that exists are lightning spirits cause ggg are nz iq
that's... not a lot of defensive layers friend. have you tried applying yourself? you seem flustered.
>that's... not a lot of defensive layers friend.
>5 layers is not a lot of defensive layers
It's more than your iq apparently. How many do you think you should need exactly? Because I had even more than this this league, like 8, and it still didn't matter because shocker: some of the 'layers' are just worthless compared to others, no amount of hp or evasion or curses or chills is going to make up for suppression, because the game is designed terribly to pigeon hole you into playing only a few things that can get all the requirements.
You are talking to the GGG defense force. These mentally ill and not sure about their gender freaks will never acknowledge that the game is shit. They get the beating from their massa and ask for more, every couple of months. Wouldn't be surprised if they have nothing else in life other than PoE.
>I shouldn't be randomly dying to almost anything
Your defenses are not as good as you think it is if this is happening.
I actually agree that map mods shouldn't invalidate builds. Reflect shouldn't be a thing. No regen shouldn't be a thing. Minus max shouldn't be a thing. Reduced aura efficacy shouldn't be a thing. I think it's a cheap way to add difficulty. I also have zero idea what mods can replace them that both add difficulty to the map without invalidating builds. So that's just the game: don't run mods that totally frick you or be able to tank the penalties.
>That's not actually playing the game, playing the game means engaging with all of it, period.
You are engaging with all of it, and you can engage with all of it. You can do an Atoll or an Exarch invite. Just not when there's minus armour on the map. Just roll over it, dude.
autism kicked in huh?
>You are engaging with all of it, and you can engage with all of it. You can do an Atoll or an Exarch invite. Just not when there's minus armour on the map. Just roll over it, dude.
>just reroll the map mod that nobody can do bro
>it's totally not the same as ele or phys reflect bro
imagine defending this kind of cuckshed game design lol
10 endurance charges + other sources of additional phys reduction + phys hits taken as ele aren't affected by minus armour and maintain the same or better phys mitigation.
And you still die in one hit because armor is worthless and even with 95% damage reduction everything hits for more than your max life pool multiple times.
>moron, if I have invested the shitton of currency and points into not dying, shocker: I shouldn't be randomly dying to almost anything.
funny thing is, you still would die to everything in one hit, there was maybe one build that could afk farm and it was RF and I think they nuked that.
I mean that's cause afk is a high requirement, you're still gonna need to press a button. As I said I played a skeleton mage build that ran triple nem deli crimson temples and only died once or twice. The thing is, players should not NEED melding and aegis aurora and 90 max res and 50k armour and max block and all that other shit to simply feel good to play. It should feel good to play baseline
>he thing is, players should not NEED melding and aegis aurora and 90 max res and 50k armour and max block and all that other shit to simply feel good to play. It should feel good to play baseline
I agree with you, but BFR doesn't, it's why he gutted everything in the game defensive wise and upped enemy health and damage. HE got lucky with goodwill and releasing this game at the right place, right time.
doomgay in this thread rn
>only one person shits on POE and the mazed morons still poopsocking through it
>not the players who quit in droves and are currently overwhelming GGG's massive mod team
lmaaaao
You can't hide your typo, friend.
specially a person with mental illness.
okay baldo dick sucker schizo, everybody who left the game is me, and everybody who shits on you and your loser NEET lifestyle is also me. You got me, I'm literally every enemy in your miserable life, now come and kill me you little pussy.
This poster is in a very sad state.
>he says while defending baldoslop for free
Because that bald homosexual Chris looks like a circumcised penis and I don't frick with that gay shit.
>farm endlessly for currency
I don't understand who enjoys doing this
it's a poor person game
smart rich people just pay and save time
smart rich people don't pay for a depreciating asset, both in game, and the game itself.
i found better games that feel better to play
Elden ring
monster hunters
>started playing ruthless mode to see how awful it is
>find myself having fun
it's too late for me
>spamming nerd, neet
>He believes he is the smartest person in this thread.
l
>that kid from the /vg/ gen that thinks people will reply to his non frog post green text
LMAO
LUL
> /vg/ gen
have a nice day
i won
No idea what your point is.
not her but it's a /vg/ thing for (You) farming
usually with an image of a frog
>Harvest was nothing but good,
He's entirely right with his post. Anyone railing against harvest outs himself as a brainlet shitter who was too moronic and clinically brain-dead to use such a straight forward mechanic.
If you are just in for the group think, and spout le harvest bad meme, then you out yourself as a homosexual who's gobbling up your favourite youtube jester's opinion. Of course these homosexuals who play the game as their job are against people getting good gear.
You could easily see this with that fat homosexual with the pedophile voice when he was trying out Last Epoch and talking to the developers. He immediately asked for streamers getting better gear and that regular people should be locked out of it.
There's no way to acquire more bag/storage space without paying cash.
steal account
see
I suppose I'm too stupid to be milked by microtransactions then.
That's beside the point.
git gud loser
good goy
You can beat the entire game with 4 tabs
You can survive eating nothing but mud too, you gonna do it homosexual?
Imagine thinking people speedrun the game to 'beat it' and not to have fun
You need extra tabs to have more fun? just make more characters you moronic Black person
invest 95% of your characters kit into defense
still get 1 shot
poe is too complex for the average Ganker poster
>Criticise the game
>troony poster takes personal offense, starts raging and spamming his troony to piss off people, but not realising that nobody cares
Bet you are already stomping with your feet, lol
seethe
I accept your concession
Unironically, you are veddit incarnate. You do this shit for cheap attention, every time, and there is an army of simps giving in and opening their wallets to him. If you'd be from here, you'd go on his channel and ask him whether his parents are proud of him, and record his reaction, getting banned, creating new accounts and repeating this day after day to mock him. But no, you do the same stale cheap attention whoring posts in hopes to get a distraction from your empty life. And in the end, you are his advertiser, doing it for free, literally.
What a pathetic army of ggg shills this is nowadays, full of vedditors and simps, unproductive and reduced to walking wallets. Throwing money either at GGG or on that troony. I know you and your discord friends will downvote me to hell and back, report my post in hopes to get me banned. But the message is out.
May you all die of colon cancer, goodbye.
>him
cope
It's not only games that barely qualify as arpgs, but that have a similar camera angle can draw people away from poe, it's that stupid phone game that causes such massive butt hurt. GGG supporters have their anus prolapsed from this ongoing assault on them, throwing them into a shit posting frenzy for quite some time. How long did this go now? A year, or is it already two? You can bet your dad's boyfriend second credit card, that when a real arpg game releases its multiplayer, that it will kill poe for good. I can only dream of the anal clenching when that jackhammer keeps thrusting the bum of Chris' game.
actually this league is the most i've played since Ritual when all the constant nerf leagues started. although Expedition is my favourite league they kept making it too difficult and only catered to twitch autists.
i killed the true form league boss so i'm kind of a big deal 8^) i'm glad they toned the game down a bit for normal 6 hour a day players like me.
Not fun.
In the hundreds of hours I spent in it over the years, I never once felt rewarded for playing.
To play a game like that for a long time, you need some other motivation, like getting money from streams. It's the perfect streamer game, but a shit everyone else game.
It was boring
Every build turns into the same thing - run around 1shotting everything on hyper speed. Any build that doesn't do enough damage gets set back because the whole game is a farming treadmill of how many maps you can run per hour to gather currency to make yourself stronger to run more maps.
so it all depends on how fast you can pull the slot machine handle and chris wilson is slowing that down?
what the frick?
More or less, yes.
Garbage game where spazoids get angry if they can't run faster and faster through the same 1 enemy type. Any time they try to slow the game down so you can process all the moving lights and sounds you just saw on the screen the entire community boycotts the game. I'll stick to actually being able to comprehend what I just witnessed for the past 8 hours in my crack sesh.
>Any time they try to slow the game down
There's an easy way to do this homosexual baldo: cut the damage of all monsters and players in half at once, and double the loot or the drop rate of decent shit. Voila, your game is a bit slower and players aren't actually mad because you've compensated and balanced correctly. They boycott because ggg are brainless morons who can't do this, and leave mob damage and speed intact, don't compensate loot, and just try to make players weaker lol
it's not that they're brainless morons like most of the GGG defenders, it's that they actively hate their playerbase, and if you are a dev that challenges "THE VISION tm" you will be bullied or fired by King Bald himself.
The glass door reviews for GGG show exactly what kind of homosexual Chris is.
>not new ips
>replied to op
I didn't do it in this thread but sometimes I reply to a non-OP post before going back to making another post where I reply to OP.
i found a better game
The burden of choice was too great for me. Now I only play Cookie Clicker following a meta guide.
>215 / 26 / 87
>based chris poster observing
>knows it's /poopg/ lite
all this thread needs is the spaz that freaks out when the gen gets hijacked and no links get posted
poog is good now
this shit thread more like discord raid
>poog is good now
explain
He doomed his own game. Except a couple of die-hard simps is shitting on the game. He wants to slow it down to Diablo 4 levels of combat, but the system isn't there to make it engaging, and soon there won't be anyone but bots and a couple of whales left in his maze.
>but the system isn't there to make it engaging
>Sanctum mobs mostly clearly telegraph their attacks, and they're often slow and deliberate
They are testing that system right now.
If they still use every league as a testing ground, they are going to have pissed off almost anyone before releasing their supposed "vision" or what ever they are working on. And judging from the last poe2 footage, it's going to be lacklustre.
>and they're often slow and deliberate
Dunno what game you're playing buddy, but most of the generals attacks are fast as frick, target you before you can even see them, auto track at the speed of light, and then shit out 30 projectiles from a melee swing lol
Sure, they might have 'patched' it to reduce the projectiles and shit, but they're not testing anything that's copium.
Okay, grandpa, go to bed.
he's right, they don't test shit
well actually during one of the poe2 lead up interviews, a dev member mentioned they tested balance changes in PVP, because that's a sane thing to do.
>One copy of Last Epoch, please. Heard multiplayer is coming soon.
I play POE, but I skip leagues that I don't like. Played kalandra for a bit but then I quit. This new league is pretty shit imo, I don't like the new league mechanic at all so I stopped playing after the first day of the league. Its a hit and miss.
I bet these heteros kiss girls, General Gravicius grunts, his hips rapidly slamming his erect donger deep into Shadow's lean muscled frame. Sweat drips from his brow as he moans a quiet prayer before both nuts erupt, turning him into a fountain of cum, launching shadow at least 5 meters onto the floor. Gravicius smirks at the sight, "I frick for God. Who do you frick for, Exile?"
>this will now get you muted for over 9000 hours
no fun allowed
Because I got bored and I'm waiting for the gauntlet and 3.21 to play again
I got tired of exp loss on death and the vastly increased TNLs for Lv91-100 effectively locking out 10 skill points that could have made way more builds viable, the way 6L became mandatory, and the way it also permanently gimped melee because you have to waste a gem slot for Melee Splash since solo-target is not an option. It also didn't help any when it became full Chinese spyware.
you get melee splash on the tree now and 6l was always "mandatory"
how much do you die that you can't get beyond 91?
>how much do you die that you can't get beyond 91?
I don't blame him, back when I played my max, I had a flame max block glad with HOH molten strike, with millions of dps and was getting called to do all sorts of end game content. I think I got him to 95 or 97 before I quit with him, because as fun as the build was, I was still getting one shot through my armor+end charges+hoh+HOB+max block+max spell block. This was ages ago during pokemon league, and it's probably much worse now.
>I didn't like how they made rare mobs casinos
that's literally the whole game.
>that's literally the whole game.
Didn't used to be, your majority of drops came from normal and magic mobs, juicing just added more mobs to the map which meant more decent drops. Now nothing drops anything except rare mobs, and only if you lotto the right combination of mods, and then only if you win lotto on its drop rates on top.
The average outcome of running 10 maps before vs the average outcome of running 10 maps now is wildly different, because its all based on rare mob luck now instead of total mobs.
I meant the whole game is a shitty casino, sure loot goblin bullshit is much worse now, but it's just an extension of how bad the whole game's gotten with that shit.
He's based because he shits on whiny fans and makes his game how he wants it to be
finally, a wise individual
If it's so great, why doesn't he ever play his own game? Let alone test it before releasing another turd mechanic.
I'm only taking a break until they fix it
>come to the thread while shitting to shit on what this game became
>like clockwork that one rabid defender comes by posting the exact same shit he was still posting in the general when I left years ago
what happens to somebody that they spend their entire life shilling a game made by a bald schizo that hates them, for zero compensation, genuine question.
You're going to be a skeleton before that happens
>freeze enemy during its attack animation
>invisible hitbox still comes out and hits me
lol this game is coded by actual fricking morons
HH is what really made me play PoE. I'd farm one each league and just have fun running maps after. I played a lot of Sentinel because of recombinators and created some insane items, but I didn't really enjoy the game anymore. In Kalandra I chased amulets until the last day of the league and mostly kept playing because of the league-exclusive builds (negative charge discharge). Sanctum is unironically a shit league mechanic. And the core game just kept getting worse. Why would I play the same game I was playing 2 years ago, but with an added 85% less fun modifier? Game is boring, that's it. Everything's the same now, nothing has the same variance old HH did.
isn't HH cracked now that they split up all the rare mods?
Should be the same as before, you have the same effects split across multiple monster modifiers. It doesn't even begin to compare to old beyond with old HH, with or without self-curse.
I painfully got 10 league achievement and abbandont this shitty league.
If you want to have fun, just mess up in Path of Building.
I didn't like how they made rare mobs casinos
>he quit like 10 times in this thread4
sweet schizo thread
>schizo still thinks everyone is one guy and out to get him
zero self awareness.
>Mandatory aura stacking
>Dog shit loot
>Most skills are dog shit
>Layers of useless "complexity" = Need 6 sockets, need to link them, need the correct colours, need specific affixes otherwise worthless/useless item
>Too many league mechanics in maps, most are not fun
BALD
FRICKING
>he replied
I accept your concession.
Yo Reddit spacer, can you attack posts directly next time instead of this passive aggressive b***h boy behaviour? Holy shit.
lurk more newbie
>he's so buck broken that he's still defending GGG either unirnoically or ironically 24/7
no matter what you say we will always be better than you, now go collect your neetbux honey, you have a life to not live 🙂
I don't like how all builds are;
>lol stack a trillion defenses or get one shot
>lol stack a trillion auras or get one shot
>lol all the fun builds are dead
>play trapper for six seasons in a row
I just want to summon some zombies and blow up corpses.
Because I was always barely able to do red maps/non uber versions of the bosses and would occasionally still fail at them even and they just keep nerfing everything
I also dont have the patience to farm more than like 5-10 ex.
ive played
>sunder
>flame cyclone
>detonate dead
>spectres
>skeletons
>contagion/blight
>puncture/split arrow bleed
>bladeflurry/infernal blow with 2 oni goroshi
Skeletons got me the furthest, but contagion felt the most OP because it would delete several screens worth of shit at once I just got walled by bosses
Sunder was probably the worst but I brute forced progress with juggernaut tankiness
>blind rage
How mad are you?
I saw Quin die to a visual bug the second he entered a map the other day and people were unironically defending it because it's a bug that's been in the game for years. When your fanbase makes excuses for things like that then it makes me wonder about their mental health. I understand there are workarounds but the fact that it still exists and people defend it was stunning to me.
>he entered a map
defending it is stupid, but you also don't know what happened. it wasn't a map, it was uber elder. and it occurred because he's a logout spamming pussy homosexual. logout should be deleted from the game, so him getting fricked by that bug is nice. ggg are dogshit at coding, and logout streamers are dogshit at the game.
I used map as a catch-all term, like a zone etc. I forgot there are actual "maps" in the game.
I'm not denying his moronation, everyone knows he's a clown. My point is that the bug shouldn't exist and I seem to recall Chris saying logout macro spamming was intended game design but I could be wrong. I think it's a lame tactic myself.
it's not easily resolvable though unless the server tracked all the animations and their current frame which would be moronic
it's partly why the grace period exists
Reminder that the game is balanced around having a log out macro, flask macro, external building, and external trading helper.
All things that should be default features, or not needed, in a functioning game.
he was moronic and moved instantly upon reentering, which if you've ever played this game and had to log out you know is a moronic idea because the game client no longer knows what animations are playing so they play invisibly instead
sorry chud ,99% of the player base has no bearing on this.
logout core deserved it.
the moron deserves it, though. He defends every single one of GGG's stupid fricking decisions and usually what he defends kills him a day or two later because he's a fricking idiot.
He's so going to jump ship once Diablo 4 comes along. Just like all other streamers
I am too, and I fricking despise Blizzard. That's how bad PoE is right now.
Sad to see what he became, I remember his early days in Diablo 3 he wasn't such a circus act then.
Reminder that GGG unironically defends log out macros because these lazy fricks have no idea how to balance their bloated game.
The Vision SUCKS wienerS
even Kay quit
fricking monsters
why her skin wrinkly and teeth fricked up?
>minioncucks are the ones whining about the current state of PoE
holy shit, how about you gays play a real build instead of hiding behind your minions like a fricking pussies and then cry b***h tears when Chris nerfs your shit
What's a real build? Don't come back with your meta shite or anything your favourite streamer man posted.
Be a real man and play melee, like Vaal Smite.
>smite
>melee
you mean "melee" right like LS is "melee"
Wow, 70% of the playerbase, that left and never came back were all minion players?
That's a lot!
i havent played last couple leagues but it looks like this one is in the same state they have all been for awhile with 120-150k on launch then trickling down to 50% of that after a month
Still think game is in a shit spot
I actually prefer melee builds
which have always been shit on
I enjoyed melee until exerting and warcry piano became a thing
I want to murder whomever thought of that
>exerting and warcry
>melee
>blizzcuck finally reveal themselves
Who the frick are you talking about? Everyone's dropping dogshit PoE once Diablo 4 comes out and nobody even likes Blizzard or thinks D4 will be good. It's a commentary on the absolute state of PoE more than anything.
Just like the dropped it for Lost Ark?
I mean they did, but they also came crawling back after a month.
Lost Ark wasn't really competing on the same playing field as PoE, it's not nearly the same game. Diablo 4 is.
You should read up on Diablo 4 some more then, because it's shaping to be a lost ark clone.
World bosses and seeing people in the overworld does not make a lost ark clone.
biggest cope in this thread
Lost Ark is nothing like PoE what the frick are you talking about? They share a similiar camera perspective.
that's not because it's a worse game, it's way better, they left because AGS is a giant fricking moron studio and tanked the game by sheer incompetence.
Bald moron had the smarts to hook players with first purchases and good will scamming while kickstarter games were still all the rage. People would still be playing LostArk more if they hadn't fricked up at literally every opportunity. The bar is so low, all D4 has to do is not be a giant clusterfrick joke.
Nobody believed in Wolcen though, that was always a shtipost.
>it's way better
GGG has been tanking their game for years yet they still stay.
Sunk cost fallacy in full+ built up good will.
Lost ark didn't bother to sell cosmetics when the game launched, or made them impossible to find or just impossibly generic. So what you got was millions of people playing, and then leaving because they didn't invest currency into the game, and the pr was attrocious.
Baldy hooked people with early access, listening to players, and mtx right off the bat, and kept up the charade for a good few years until the china buyout. By that point you had several years of grifter goodwill, and hundreds of dollars in mtx spent.
Game is built around trade, no matter how much the SSnowFlakes are in denial about it.
Nothing good drops, gear drops don't matter because even your best rolled rare you find is instantly overshadowed by some 10c shit you find on the market.
You just run maps like a moron, then spend an excruciating amount of time messaging random people via a 3rd party site open in one of your other 10+ tabs that are mandatory to play the game, hoping they will even bother replying.
All that, makes it extremely unfun for the average person.
Why does BFR outright refuse to add an actual trading system into the game?
the bots are already bad, if there was an auction house or something they'd be out of control
>existance of bots bullies developers into not fixing game
sure, might as well not do anything because bots
it's not like they care about bots anyway, auction house would make the game 10x better instantly, all things considered BUT
that would make the game less excruciating to play and we can't have that, it's haram according to THE VISION
also making AH would require dev time which they don't have because new bloat timewaster mechanics and won't make themselves
>Game is built around trade, no matter how much the SSnowFlakes are in denial about it.
Yes. I keep trying to play SSF every now and then and it's fun until I clear the Atlas once and my gear is too good for random rares to be upgrades anymore. Then I'm stuck just aimlessly running maps until I find something build enabling for something fun. OR you spend weeks running a specific map for a specific unique divination card so you can do that build you want to do.
>Nothing good drops, gear drops don't matter because even your best rolled rare you find is instantly overshadowed by some 10c shit you find on the market.
Yes.
I have fun on trade once a year but it's all about the currency drops and stuff like Enlighten gems. You never find actually good gear because it's all crafted.
>You just run maps like a moron, then spend an excruciating amount of time messaging random people via a 3rd party site open in one of your other 10+ tabs that are mandatory to play the game, hoping they will even bother replying.
Not a real issue. Just stop trying to whisper the first 10 people because everyone else does too. Just shell out the extra 1-2 chaos and get it easily.
>no endless korean grindan endgame content
>no obnoxious MTX effects
>balance remains same
>no cancer drop rates
>no server lags
Take the old games pill.
what is that titan quest?
so it would seem
Yes. Although I kinda bullshitted about the balance part. TQ and GM are still getting balance patches although it's not drastic.
yeah old games are far better in general, but especially arpgs. but chris doesn't like them, he played his own moron version of d2 where people met up at 2am irl to trade lances and idiotic shit and thinks its what anyone else played. meanwhile we all enjoyed d2 and tq because they were the opposite of what chris thinks is good. he doesn't like arpgs, he likes a) marketing and b) mtg massive israeliteery
Same buzzwords every thread for years now
same script huh
funniest thing is that this gay defends cyberpunk and fallout 76 lol
Honestly, if they wouldn't add free mtx to the leagues, nobody would return every three months for yet another glorified micro patch.
>people are actually hyped for d4 after the marketing they've done so far
how
blizz shill
Because it's only competitor is bleeding players and making moronic decisions.
yeah but what they've shown is like
>do you want to use fire skills? spec the fire talents
>do you want to do ice damage? spec the ice talents
>open world
>900 dungeons on a rotating 15 minute timer!
>cosmetic items
>battlepass
>battlepass boost
how the frick anyone can be excited for that when it clearly looks like it's going to be shit i have no idea
>only competitor is bleeding players
looks fine to me
Nice cope trying to pick retention stats long past the point anyone cares about or whatever the frick this is lmao. The only retention that matters is league launch -> 1 week in. Two weeks in at absolute most. Anything after that means nothing
looks fine to me
>yes, believe these GGG approved stats goy
no thanks I wil use steam charts.
nice cope, but these are pulled from steamdb
lmao, sure kid, go defend Chris Wolcen for free some more, I'm sure he'll give you a divine drop 🙂
because you are bald
so why is Ganker mad that a developer actively fricks over casuals?
They frick over everyone except big streamers
redditor+discord thread
That ship sailed long ago. This game isn't about "casuals" vs "hardcore" for years, and the developers are shitting on the entire game and player base for three years at maximum thrust levels.
Because it's not fun?
It's not "you're a casual you're bad" vs "you're good so you get this". It's literally a fricking slot machine, with the worst odds possible. Your being good or bad doesn't matter, it's just about how long you can spend with your brain dribbling out of your ears doing the exact same shit, giving yourself rsi, until you win lotto. And then you have to win that lotto another time for basically every gear slot you have.
Arpgs cannot survive like that, it's not what anyone enjoys about the genre
>Arpgs cannot survive like that
>game is 12 years old
keep coping
>>game is 12 years old
>And on a long and painful downward trend of death
Yeah, exactly :^)
maybe in your head thats true
>nerfing everything but buffing mobs
>archnemesis instead of yellows (which they have removed by now)
>Pseudo skill diversity which ultimately results in playing the same 5 skills for multiple seasons now
>Reducing overall currency drop rates due to muh mechanics
>Dumbing down the skill tree resulting in streamlined paths
>Performance gets worse season by season even with a good pc (That shit grinds my gears the most)
>QA is done by players, not internally
>3rd party programms necessary to even START to play the game PROPERLY
>Campaign gets dull after you've cleared it a 100 times (even if it only takes like 2 to 3 hours to go through it becomes a chore)
>SSF is a meme
>You mostly don't find items, but currency to get items for YOUR build as most stuff cannot be target-farmed
>Getting off-screen'd is now a difficulty instead of the exception (inb4 gitgud eat shit)
>Trading is still so ass since the flesh-cap argues that it is impossible to take away a new and improved way, but then guts most of the players power which is ok.
>No reason to alt anymore
>No new chase items (Muh mageblood boring design)
>endgame bosses are not rewarding by themselves, grind them a 1000 times to get that one item which is devalued after week 1 anyways
>BUGS ABOVE BUGS which are not getting fixxed for years, example: Conqueror's fights and Sirus
>Skills balanced to fit skin sales (Can't blame them there, as it is a business)
>Boring and samey seasons for a while now
>Party play impossible due to shit performance (now nerfed anyways so who gives a shit, also a reason why homosexuals like that hungarian wienermongler left)
>inb4 gitgud homosexual
6k hours in that dumpster fire of a game, cleared everything that was to clear multiple times
At least the atlas skill tree is cool as i can focus on stuff i want to do, problem is only that it is most likely gutted as it doesn't fit the streamer meta
Frick GGG
Weird how I'm like the only person in POEG who ever mentions the fact that we've been playing with the exact same skill for half a decade, nobody wants new shit but instead balance or buffs, I really don't give a shit, most skills are boring and we need new ones that are fun
so the meme about redditors spending all their time crying on reddit instead of playing the game is true...
so, the main schizo who keep spamming 'i quit' is ph3l0n huh..
Not wrong, and it's amazing how harvest called out veddit and all the neets. Even the most easy iteration of crafting, to that point, flew completely over their head. They weren't even able to utilise it for crafting their maps, for free, let alone craft israeliteels with it, the easiest of crafts. It showed that they can't understand the game, and have to brute force their way through benign pixel grind. Chris is right, the game's player base today, are the most brain-dead consumer drones. The days of the average person enjoying breaking the creator's toy are long gone. But then again, even Chris works against what the game used to be known for. And only the brainless neets are left circling this turd
I knew you'd reply, same buzzwords like always and this weird obsession with feces.
Dumb moronic immigrant.
What is this image supposed to prove?
Like yes there are lots of people crying about stuff that hardly play the game, but what can you really say about a person based on his current season challenges? If the person hates the current state of the game, they probably haven't done shit in the current league. I'm bored out of my mind, not that I have anything in particular to complain about atm, and I have like 12 challenges or something because I dropped the league shortly after getting to T16s.
ngl I have never ever had a problem with my build and I never use meta stuff (imo meta is anything with greater than 0.5% usage rate on poe ninja)
It's just... never been a problem for me. I did Heatshiver Glacial Hammer for sanctum and it was fine.
Post your 40/40
endgame grind is way too autistic to bother with
>38
Very nice
what does this even prove, 40/40 is mostly RNG bullshit or shit you pay for in game.
>T. played Abyss and was able to clear the league's bosses but couldn't get most of the challenge shit to spawn because the game is a slot machine.
By non meta he means take a meta build, swap some gems and call it non meta.
Alternatively, just get HH and stomp anything with no build.
>you're not really non-meta, you're just using a different build
wow you caught me. My build does damage just like all the other builds. GGG really would've let you clear all content with your phase run build in 3.10
Why is the loot treadmill arpg scene so bad. What games are there to even play other than poey? I tried sleepoch but the combat isn't that responsive and the mob density is really low
when chris wilson's vision stopped aligning with mine
I took me 1k+ hours to realise that it sucks. (That was like 2-3 years ago)
Playing PD2 and Grim Dawn showed me that ARPGs can be fun. Frick baldos vision
>Grim Yawn
I can imagine anyone who enjoys that garbage would hate a game where more than one mechanic is relevant per build
PoE 2 when?
i can't stop playing this same shit, im addicted and its fricking making me rateded
Why do they insist on raiding every poe thread?
will D4 kill PoE or will PoE 2 kill D4?
D4 will kill itself.
not before it sells like 20 million copies
It'll be a financial success because there's just so many people who are forever stuck eating whatever shit Blizzard puts out. I'm going to play it too because no doubt all my friends are going to buy it. It'll probably be fun for 2 weeks and then none of them will ever touch it again because that's just how Blizzard games are now.
PoE has more or less killed itself by now. D4 doesn't need to be good to wipe it off the map, at least what ever is remaining until then.
D4 will kill PoE no doubt, new game everyone bored of PoE autism itself and content.
After dust settled you can hope that PoE 2 will kill D4.
best case scenario is d4 take those morons
with it.
but we all know they will crawlback
I doubt normaloids play poe so at best it kills a league until the autists get bored with d4 within a month
neither, ggg will dodge d4's release by a few weeks. everyone will get sick of d4 in a month then play the next poe league
They would probably have to throw in a lot of free mtx to get the masses back within a month. I can imagine that d4 will be the hot shit for at least two months, the least. Casuals aren't going as fast through games as autists. And then they also wanted to do leagues?
Honestly, I can't imagine anyone going back to path of clunky once they had all the easing mechanics and quality of life features in d4 that are completely devoid in poe.
I didnt think Kay was actually a cute homely asian woman tbqh
90% of the complainers just want the game to revert to... one year ago lol
>chinks buy PoE
>dont allow the release of PoE 2 until D4 releases
>Chris claims that chinks dont have any influence on the development
keyed and chinked game, sad
Still finding excuses for GGG, in 2023. They are well capable of killing the game themselves.
GGG is insanely corrupt, despite the constant nerfs they are making way more money now than during the harvest heyday with all these new crazy rare unique items, credit cards are being swiped 24/7 on their official rmt websites.
post updated version homosexual
jung is the mastermind behind all rmt? damn
>Belton
name a more based PoE degenerate, this guy literally RMTs and makes thousands while streaming it all
just noticed he's banned on twitch, what did he do
probably RMTing
RIP Path of Meth, aka discount Skrillex...
BFR just couldn't handle his game breaking builds.
is Empy also a RMTer? i used to enjoy his chill streams
he and his group supply the rmt websites
>on their official rmt websites
link? i just want to buy a mageblood and enjoy my build
why does jung play on a different client? I assume it's chinese client? the font in his game is all weird
you can change the ingame font with windows registry shenanigans
but why would you change it? or is he using a non-english windows or something
abe(the ffxiv namegay) does the same shit, uses that gay fricking font that the asiatic uses, he also thinks hes fricking epic for posting his offtopic poe shenanigans in the fricking tank channel on the balance discord
thankfully he'll be gone from poe threads soon cause he'll have to grind the new raid or whatever is coming
GGG knows what they are doing. They're just spinning the wheels and building their endgame because they know Diablo 4 is going to come out, all the people will flock over there, complete all content in two weeks (just like each PoE league) realize there is literally nothing else to do, then come back to PoE for their quarterly league release and build that you can actually bother improving instead of farming for +1 item power every hour
Last Epoch will be crowned new king of arpg once it hits 1.0
They first need to fix their godawful endgame dungeons.
I bet it on it as well.
They are building three end game territories as far as I know, over world bosses, maps and something else. Was it "elite" areas? If they add maps in the future, I'm gone for good.
>Tencent
>constant delays
>4 years in EA
>no sale during winter sale
I'm being optimistic but they are tons of redflags around the game.
It's a low stake investment without any decisive decision making power.
i dont even particularly like poe or arpgs in general but i hate how the new trend is to insult any game that doesnt reduce itself to a tasteless dopamine dispenser for zoomers
The balance between work and fun in PoE has been steadily tipping towards work ever since 3.15, and at some point I realized I spent way too much time I didn't enjoy, just getting to the fun part I did enjoy The former part kept getting longer every league, and the latter kept getting more constrained by constant "balance" changes that dumpstered almost everything interesting except the same two archetypes for years. Trade got worse with the moronic ex-divine change, and that was just the last straw of drudgery that made me quit.
Game stopped being fun.
For people who earnestly think Diablo 4 will kill Path of Exile, what do you think Diablo 4's endgame is going to be? If it doesn't have an endgame that isn't just rifts, it's DoA
Stubborn on the wrong things.
Having to beat the campaign everytime you want to level a new character is fricking stupid. Just bring back endless ledge. You beat acts once, and unlocks endless ledge with no item drops, that stops giving XP at 66.
>inb4 of practice more, do the speedrun strat blah blah
It's still a 'session' of gaming wasted going through the same bullshit. I'd rather run acts 1-4 3 times than 1-10 once. Because you got those comfortable leveling zones(ledge/docks/dried lake/blood aqueduct) where you could just chill and level. Instead of having to zoom through quest zones.
This is the biggest reason I just quit a league instead of making a new character.
What i actually need is a permanent league that gets the content as it arrives.
I really can't no life as i used to do when i was in school, i got a job, a home, i just can't
I WOULD play if i could just log in 5-10 hours a week for 2-3 weeks, taste the new stuff then go back to hibernate for 10 to 14 week. Keep the season league for the ricer and farmer that can spend 4 day awake to be competitive i'm not there anymore.
leagues are 3 months long how can you not play enough in that time to do what you want to do
because after the first few weeks the place is a ghost zone, and after the initial rush i remember that in 2 months the character i'm using will be back to a worthless permie league where i won't be able to see new content.
>because after the first few weeks
trade is pretty active up until at least two months
that's another trick the israelite uses to keep you hooked. You progress resets every few months so you can never really beat the game.
You just keep coming back like a drug addict stumbling in through the clinic doors, if you can jsut get one more hit you'll be good this time. It's designed to be as addicting as it is awful, they do not care about your wellbeing, they just want your life.
Its the opposite. You play for a month and then quit and can return to a fresh new league without being behind. Now see lost shart or wow where if you miss a reset you're premanently behind.
Sounds like unironic rat race mind. I can't imagine anyone ever giving a shit if every new league mechanic or mtx challenge was added to standard. People simply stop trading low quality items altogether.
This three months reset is just a trick to get people showing off mtx in town again.
lmao, you're permanently behind in POE always. In lost ark and Wow you can catch up easily and there's shit to do besides the ENDLESS GRIND.
In POE you are subject to the massive RMT and trading cabals, as well as the whims of streamers and no life neets playing the game like a job. They are always online, and always running macros/bots/trade scams so you will always be behind.
Look at you, no better than a junkie justifying his heroine addiction, or a greasy strung out gambler itching for another go at the slots.
You're beat man, this is your prison, GGG owns you lol.
Does anyone actually enjoy games like this? I'm not even fricking old, but I just prefer to buy my game and that to be it, let me go through it and enjoy it without external time pressure, meta shit and dark pattern game design that is designed to exploit me for both my time, money and data. It's so tedious.
Are you that balkan immigrant shitskin who lives in germany? just curious
Wat. No I'm a native northern european man who is in his late 20s.
Ok sorry, gotta be extra careful in these threads when the balkan shitskin is awake, yuro time poe threads always suck cause of him.
Sounds like I shit posted you into submission.
people with zero life and aspirations do, because it consumes their life so they don't have to think about how shit they've got it. I play Lost ark, but I haven't played in months, I still want to go back to it because it's fun but I've taken a break for now. I can eventually go back and enjoy some raids or dungeons. Same thing with ff14.
With POE, if I ever went back it'd be the same as ever. Miserable trade, leveling, grind, progression, skills, and classes.
>POE is a single player game
lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
>people with zero life and aspirations do
I guess so, I used to play WoW 10+ years ago and it was the only thing I had going and I dedicated an absurd amount of time to it, because it was one of a few select games that allowed you to do that. Now there's so many games and it seems the de facto way to design your game and it's just not for me anymore. Give me a nice 20 hour experience over something that demands I constantly play and come back and read patch notes.
Just play Resident evil 2 or DMCV exceptional games that aren't designed by morons that you can get hundreds of hours out of if you actually enjoy it more than the initial play through.
I value my time a lot more nowadays, so I don't play shit as much, one of the reasons I occasionally check POE threads. Gotta let people know the game is a trainwreck so they don't waste their time, and insult the people who are buck broken by Chris.
Least delusional and coping poe doomer
Behind how?
It's a single player game. The other players are just there to act as vendors.
Aside from racing for lvl 100s or something, what is there to be behind on?
If you treat this game as a single player, you opinion is worth nothing. You are not interacting with anyone and simlpy grinding your life away in a cubicle in isolation. Take what ever they shit on your plate and shut up.
You missed my point. How is it any different if you play with 1-3 friends? You're still playing alone together. How are you interacting with anyone else outside TFT/trade?
Ah okay yes. The only interaction you can get is party play and trade. I wouldn't describe playing with friends or a party as playing in isolation. Maybe only in market terms if you don't trade outside.
The problem the other anon means with being in competition with others is to some degree a perceived competition.But it is also direct in terms if you want to buy build defining items and alike.
This is completely dishonest, you are forced to interact with players after a point because you cannot sustain maps or your build simply won't work without certain pieces of gear.
Playing it SSF every league just makes you a masochist, streamer, or one of those human failures who does nothing but play poe every day.
imagine playing anything other than hcssf
stop, the shitskin gets enraged when someone mentions ssf but saying hcssf will make him dig up his years old copypasta
empy is probably the dumbest player ever, if he didnt have his group to carry him he'd struggle to afford a fricking tabula
still remember them quitting last league when their main trader got banned, they blamed it on shit drops lol
>powercreep doesn't exist
fricking maven, a boss they introduced one expansion ago, is a fricking joke now
Isn't that because there's no uber versions of everything? I didn't play for like a year there and I just assumed they made the base forms easier.
you sure you aren't just better at the game?
literally nothing has changed except people have learned the boss moron, a million guides came out, people done it enough, it becomes not difficult. that's how things work.
>looks fine to me
>ritual still fricking everyones ass
clearly not buddy. ritual was the last good league that lived up to the hype. archnem? kalandra? they did good marketing, leagues were terrible, their retention bombed because of it so the peak means nothing.
secondly, stop posting your homosexual pictures individually, either post the comparison chart that lists day 1, day 5, week 1 etc all at once or dont bother
also as the other anon said steamcharts is more reliable, ggg are israelites and proven they're untrustworthy on absolutely everything at this point anyway
yeah, when they were the fricking end bosses of the game sure. shock, they're not the end bosses of the game, ggg added a million percent padding, still wanted the end of the campaign to have the 'same' difficulty, so just scaled it. this isn't power creep causing anything here
>game is bleeding players
>the peak means nothing
>the retention means nothing
>only thing that matters is my head cannon
>literally nothing has changed except people have learned the boss moron, a million guides came out, people done it enough, it becomes not difficult. that's how things work.
damn... now just do that with the rest of the game
>damn... now just do that with the rest of the game
Doesn't work that way moron, no amount of "skill" or "learning" can overcome not having spell suppression in maps. In fact, learning and avoiding mechanics doesn't even exist in maps, you cannot avoid taking 500 hits, you cannot even see half the shit to avoid it. Imagine trying to compare single enemy bosses in a contained arena with designed and telegraphed abilities with the shitshow of having 500 mobs randomly generated with random affixes - with no limitations, exclusions or caps - and thinking its similar lmao.
I do not have an issue with bosses generally, my issue with bosses is almost always that they're incredibly fricking slow and unrewarding to do and only pay off if you run literally 1000 of them and average it out - which human beings do not do.
Being forced to trade with other players for gear I desperately need for my build when I can't even grind for anything valuable enough to trade for it with using the randomly found gear I already have. How am I supposed to get anywhere if drop rates are throttled down to near zero by the time I start needing to optimize and the only way I can get any gear at all is wait for weeks or longer for some random person to respond to my trade request on a third party website, who will probably just try to scam me anyway if I even had anything worth trading in the first place?
At least there's Grim Dawn for whenever I have an itch for this sort of game.
I tried it and played for 9 hours with a friend and beat the main story, then was told this is something you have to repeat with every league, wherein you spend hours theorycrafting a build on the autistically large skill tree. It sounded like pure unfun autism and I play cataclysm, space station and dwarf fort.
when you're good at the game you can do the campaign in like 4 hours on league launch day
That's still 4 hours of my life doing the same thing though
if you're concerned about 4 hours arpgs probably aren't a genre for you
I don't think so, I've had plenty of fun with ARPGs, what I've realised is what live service online games aren't for me anymore. The whole league structure doesn't appeal to me at all.
Thats the appeal of leagues. Everyone starts from scratch and the good players can capitalize by going faster.
i love how theres a lot of drama between poe streamers on twitter lately, first the ghazzy drama when every streamer attempted to cancel him and now the jungroan vs kobe arc
what the frick happened to poe 2
beta in exilecon
complaining about the campaign is like complaining you have shitter gear in tarkov after a reset
sure
moron
seethe akane troon
https://poe.ninja/challengehc/builds/char/PoEDan79/DanSMOrc?i=43&search=class%3DJuggernaut
dumb c**t
seethe more akane troon
Didn't stop, just had my fun for the season, might try something new next season.
I liked the game when you could run pretty much any build and get lvl 100, even in hardcore, without much difficulty. Now you need to complete a huge checklist of defenses just to not get instantly one shot and that's in addition to needing millions of dps just to be able to map comfortably.
i developed rsi
to be fair ritual and delirium were during the massive """""covid""" lockdowns
dont care still gonna play cold bv pathfinder
I stopped playing when they gave streamer groups priority queues so they could grind days before anyone else.
every single build I've played in history of poe was nerfed to the ground on the very next league.
Enough is enough, I'm buying d4 when it'll be out and won't look back at whatever slop you've cooked up with "poe2"
>having to stack like 4+ auras for a build or you die
>regret point system just frickin sucks man
>trading forces me to pay attention at all times so some homosexual chink or russian doesnt scam me
>crafting autism
i'm looking forward to poe2 and if it starts off anything like current poe i'm never playing it again
>ruins your game
I fricking hate the balkan shitskin, I love how he shills garbage like fallout 76, cybertrash 2077 and random indie fotm games though
I'm glad he bugs you, Cyberpunk and 76 are both unironically better than POE ever was. I didn't even pay for either of them, and I actually enjoyed my time in those games.
>doomkek when their build got nerf
nerfing in single player game
>doomkek when losing argument
POE is a single player game lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
>ggg free-paid shill posting the same shit in every POE thread
don't you ever get tired of this being your entire life?
I play HC and shit meta like 2 years ago, everyone still playing the same ascendancies
JUGG is back on top baby stop lying
RF nerf guaranteed next patch.
lmao i love how the balkan shitskin shilled wolcen and orcs must die, frickign garbage games tbqh
Filtered
funniest thing was when the balkan shitskin shilled tribes of midgard and the game was fricking garbage like every random indie game he shilled
I'm beginning to think this guy doesn't actually exist and anyone with a specific type of criticism is just labelled as that guy? Granted, this is the vert poe thread I've gone into. Also save us both some braincells and don't.
I beat the game. Not sure why people continue playing once the story is done.
I remember that moron Ashur couldn't accept that raider was tankier and better than jugg in 3.14, he literally couldn't comprehend that his "tank" ascendancy was being outtanked by a fricking zoom zoom ascendancy lel
Never played it but when I watch occasionally it seems to lack anything I recognise as gameplay.
>project an aura of damage
>run through the map and watch enemies fall down
>1000 items drop, pick up 2-5 of them
They refuse to add anything more to do than just running the same 10 acts.. let me get into maps earlier..
Infinite ledge would be kino for leveling.
Played since 1.0, quit 1 year ago and don't plan to return. Also, pathetic scums ITT who enjoys arguing over nothing in anonymous imageboard.
see you next league