>radio interference
They weren't even given standard issue uniform and body armour. They basically just had to buy their own.
The radios were likely the cheapest second hand version they could find, probably from a flea market. New batteries would be a luxury.
speaking of superiors, the manhua went more into umbrella's chairmen, having a T-Type even desperately protecting what appears to be the top dog. in the vidyas umbrella practically went away with a fart (RE4 said stock market iirc)
I can buy that. It makes sense. I don't mind that they never go into the details about it, since that means we can get straight into the game.
>shitty art is canon
Why is this always the case? I want to live in the timeline where the manhua is canon, ie, where Tofu is an actual human subjected to umbrella's experiments with basedbeans & acid that attracts zombies in order to bite him; with regen powers ofc. Goddamn what a chad.
There are a few of them -- some translated. There's also a translated one of Dino Crisis. As for good or not, well, they get really out there like wtf was the writer smoking kinda way, but there are some kino moments like Leon v. Licker
Wasn’t just the stock market, they got tried in a huge multinational court case, and all the lawyers in the world couldn’t help them when raccoon came out, plus all the other smaller firms wanted a piece of them too. Basically the top brass got gutted, they were kicked out or shut down across the world, and with all the fines and stock failure they got hit with they were completely fricked
Oh I know, it was just to sum up that it was dealt mostly off screen and in a rather solely burocratic way ie unexciting af. Too much Tell and little to no Show.
Probably cause 4 was focused on a new threat(and basically a side story). 5 focuses on a post umbrella world, and I actually really like how it shows the fallout from their shutdown with bows being spread by third parties in conflicts around the world
I know as to why: Mikami simply wanted a new, fresh threat. But it's the how it was mostly dealt with (ie quickly brushed off at the beginning of RE4) that sucked imo. And as for RE5, in case you weren't aware, that iteration was initially planned to be fricking Attack on Titan -- picrel
Not that surprising, out of all the plagas monsters the lotr trolls make the most sense to weaponize.
The team from 0 was ambushed by the unexpected leech geezer, yeah, but weren't they also toyed with by Wesker and Birkin? Also the intel retrieval team was sent only to the older compound of the assassinated researcher. They weren't expected to make BOW cleanup because nobody thought the grandad would get resurrected. >the head of umbrella security show up with two tyrants to btfo wesker and insure they wipe out the facility
Now that sounds cool, what a shame I can't play the chronicles.
It’s kinda cool but they look a little goofy, this is him, the tyrants are basically mr.x but with cheesy visors. Apparently umbrella used clones of him to develop the base body of the tyrants
Not his fault. Everything there was a sort of washed out yellow-brown color. Half the people on that African town looked like they were white or hispanic. How was a man to tell?
I mean even with the piss filter he could tell that she's not the same color of his arm nor as dark as the west african soldiers. Speaking of which, her bio says she's west african but, seeing as she's of lighter skin, did the portuguese railed one of her ancestors?
I mean even with the piss filter he could tell that she's not the same color of his arm nor as dark as the west african soldiers. Speaking of which, her bio says she's west african but, seeing as she's of lighter skin, did the portuguese railed one of her ancestors?
They didnt have any radios. the game literally shows this as Jill/Chris eventually finds a radio and tries to use it to contact brad but it doesnt work
>They didnt have any radios.
Which makes no sense. We know Wesker sabotaged the Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopter, so maybe we can extrapolate here that he also had a hand in each STARS member not having a radio on them at all times?
Yes, but why would the radios be in the helicopter in the first place and not with them -- they're portable and special units usually carry them in on of their many pockets. Wesker maybe convinced them to leave them in chopper during their trip to the mansion?
I'm just trying to come up with a reasonable explanation here for fun, mind you. I know it's because it helps the feeling of isolation for its horror setting.
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They should retcon it to show an EMP taking down the chopper and the radios
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Wouldn't that destroy the helicopter from the crash? It's not like they're just going to get them a second one, seeing as they're deliberately trying to get them killed.
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>second
Third. Bravo team's helicopter went down too.
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But Wesker sabotaged the chopper, retconning it to being an EMP would change a lot.
What's this update?
[...] >But it's the how it was mostly dealt with (ie quickly brushed off at the beginning of RE4)
I've said this a few times, but it boggles my mind that Plagas weren't related to any Umbrella experiments. 3 introduced the Nemesis parasite, controls its host's mind and was developed by Umbrella's European branch. Then Leon goes to Europe and encounters a mind-controlling parasite, and it has nothing to do with Umbrella.
I feel like there was a big opening to keep Umbrella alive in some form in 4. Perhaps Saddler could have been an Umbrella exec that went crazy (like they all do) and used some parasites that Umbrella was researching on himself and others.
Didnt they eventually connect the two -- picrel?
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Man I've read the wiki multiple times and I've never seen that.
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How is las plagas being developed by umbrella possible if they were fossilized under Salazar's castle?
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Red Queen or Umbrella may have been running a signal jammer from inside the facility to prevent leaks
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That'd make sense, as things went to shit that emergency program kicked off
No they had done at least some recon, and were communicating by yelling to one another prior to the cerberus attack. It's not like they were attacked as soon as they all had their feet on the ground.
>They didnt have any radios.
Which makes no sense. We know Wesker sabotaged the Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopter, so maybe we can extrapolate here that he also had a hand in each STARS member not having a radio on them at all times?
They didnt have any radios. the game literally shows this as Jill/Chris eventually finds a radio and tries to use it to contact brad but it doesnt work
But a radio is supposed to be at all times with them, right? No reason as to why they would've left them in the chopper
Bravo team has their radios. Wesker had a radio. Barry had a radio. Someone might argue Barry and Wesker were coordinating and they didn't want to have their conversations overheard. But why would they both give the player that radio then?
Even if it was "All according to Wesker's plan" I don't buy the chaos at the landing was all part of it, there is no possible way for him to plan what everyone has in their kit. If we buy his stated motivation he wanted to collect combat data. Which even if it was for his own use rather than selling: I do believe. Bravo team had impressive firepower, Barry's carrying a magnum which is like shooting six shotguns at once in the RE universe and half the weapon upgrades you get in RE1 are just salvaging STARS equipment. He'd want Chris to have his marksman rifle, and Jill to have... well something other than a handgun.
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>that pic
Do people really have chest holsters for rifles?
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yep
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Only the kind of people who are issued multicolor Vietnam-era flak jackets
Seems like it would get in the way, why not just use a sling
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I can't claim to know the mind of someone who wears a do-rag.
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Only the kind of people who are issued multicolor Vietnam-era flak jackets
That we could infer that he dropped it while shooting the doggos and running
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I can buy that. It makes sense. I don't mind that they never go into the details about it, since that means we can get straight into the game.
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yeah, as long as it isnt jarring it's OK to leave it at that since there are numerous scenarios that could justify it. But the radio part is something that's hard to ignore, like when cellphones somehow vanish in modern horror movies or have the most nonsensical reasoning as to why they don't work.
It wouldve been neat if Chris had a pack of cigs on him tho, Snake-style.
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I'VE GOT A SHOTGUN
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>last time chris smoked
The withdrawl is what eventually made him punch boulders
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>last time
Well technically https://youtu.be/x711B_0pLjM?t=70
Not everyone would be equipped with a long range radio capable of communication with the police headquarters in Raccoon. Richard was the communications expert in the S.T.A.R.S so he should have the radio, but since Bravo's Helicopter was downed maybe they lost their radio there. Wesker seems to be the secondary radioman for when teams are split, considering his earpiece similar to richard's and he is the one that gives you the radio in the original game instead of richard in the remake, but in both iterations the radio is busted and can only receive but not transmit.
>Wesker seems to be the secondary radioman for when teams are split
But isnt it the normal procedure for every squad member to have a radio in them in order to communicate with each other if such a scenario as splitting up happens?
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a short range walkie-talkie maybe. Not enough to reach the police station all the way through the woods and the arklay mountains.
You could argue that Raccoon is a small community and the police didn't think necessary to equip every man in their 13 strong swat team with walkie-talkies since they're supposed to always be working in teams or in very close vicinity.
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Hm, interesting. That'd make perfect sense.
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>You could argue that Raccoon is a small community
Let's crunch the numbers >It's an industrial city with a population of roughly 100,000, located in the US's midwest. It covers an area of 630 square kilometres (243 sq mi), with a maximum north-south distance of 21 kilometres (13 mi) and a maximum east-west distance of 43 km (27 mi). It has a 46-kilometre (29 mi) long waterfront shoreline, on the northwestern shore of Lake Ontario.
Walkie-talkies wouldve been a must.
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S.T.A.R.S aren't regular police though, they're a 13 men strong special operations team. They don't need to patrol or cover any distance. They go into a tricky situation as a team or as a squad and then they leave when its resolved
>Doesn’t make sense then went at night either.
They were going after the first chopper that crashed as a rescue mission. Why wouldn't they go just because it was night? Its not like they knew about zombies and other umbrella shit.
Wesker was their superior. And we see Chris trying to escalate it to the chief of police and beyond in RE2, but of course most of RC's authority figures are on Umbrella's payroll.
> Cannibal flesh eating monsters you say? > And to deal with this you want some body armour and firearms better than that issue 9mm we gave you? > Well no can do, just ask Barry, we spent all of the firearms budget on that handcannon of his. > An no i'm not going to give you an RCPD uniform. I've already given our yearly allocation to the new recruits.
>browning hi-power is standard issue >stars has designer berettas >new recruits issued discontinued polymer handgun
Who the frick is in charge of procurement
HiP is not so bad. Knowing japs I wouldn't be surprised if it had been .38 revolvers or 1911. >discontinued polymer handgun
Wasn't Leon like a special snowflake? He had vp70 before arriving to his new appointment.
>Originally it was rcpds new standard handgun
Now it sounds more realistic, as if it was cheaper or bureaucratically easier to reequip the department with deprecated handguns than Berettas or Glocks
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Eh not really, vp70s weren’t exactly a budget firearm, and they were out of production too so not really easy to equip an entire police force with
RPD clearly has a "officer's choice" policy on weapons, allowing officers to purchase their own choice of handguns.
Also who uses Browning HP aside from kevin?
Who exactly? They are from a regional PD and they ARE an equivalent to SWAT. Irons? He was probably busy recounting his bribe money. Speaking of the radios, well it's really strange. If they are specialised in rescue tactics radios were imperative for hanging around the woods they had went to. It's both for coordination and trying to catch the transmissions of the lost team. What I'm surprised at is how Umbrella didn't send its mercs for cleanup at the mansion. Were they leaning on Birkin and Wesker so much?
>Were they leaning on Birkin and Wesker so much?
UH JEEZ ANON I wonder how they couldn't expect a bunch of police officer with an impostor to slay hundreds of B.O.W.
If they expected the policemen to be terminated they must've had a plan for cleanup as well. And bombing the lab is just for getting rid of the evidence. It's like they were working with mutants and not highly contagious virus. With such attitude the movies were a better depiction of the carelessness with the world wide infestation.
In 0 there is an umbrella team sent in to secure research data, they get wiped out by the leech dude. Also the rail shooter game has the head of umbrella security show up with two tyrants to btfo wesker and insure they wipe out the facility
The team from 0 was ambushed by the unexpected leech geezer, yeah, but weren't they also toyed with by Wesker and Birkin? Also the intel retrieval team was sent only to the older compound of the assassinated researcher. They weren't expected to make BOW cleanup because nobody thought the grandad would get resurrected. >the head of umbrella security show up with two tyrants to btfo wesker and insure they wipe out the facility
Now that sounds cool, what a shame I can't play the chronicles.
I know as to why: Mikami simply wanted a new, fresh threat. But it's the how it was mostly dealt with (ie quickly brushed off at the beginning of RE4) that sucked imo. And as for RE5, in case you weren't aware, that iteration was initially planned to be fricking Attack on Titan -- picrel
[...]
Let's just say that Leon is not the father
>But it's the how it was mostly dealt with (ie quickly brushed off at the beginning of RE4)
I've said this a few times, but it boggles my mind that Plagas weren't related to any Umbrella experiments. 3 introduced the Nemesis parasite, controls its host's mind and was developed by Umbrella's European branch. Then Leon goes to Europe and encounters a mind-controlling parasite, and it has nothing to do with Umbrella.
I feel like there was a big opening to keep Umbrella alive in some form in 4. Perhaps Saddler could have been an Umbrella exec that went crazy (like they all do) and used some parasites that Umbrella was researching on himself and others.
A lot of umbrellas bow design was developed from viruses that appeared in nature, so it’s not that surprising a parasite like las plagas existed without their involvement. Umbrella remnants refine it in re5 with a new strain.
They were the test stubjects for combat data with a highly trained squad. Unfortunately, they were too good at their job.
Bros I've been trying to play Re1 for 5 hours now and I don't think I'll finish it.
I got filtered by the controls. I'll probably go back to it one day but not in the near future. I'll probably watch a playthrough and jump straight into 2.
If you can't handle the controls in 1, what makes you think 2 will be any different?
Bros I've been trying to play Re1 for 5 hours now and I don't think I'll finish it.
I got filtered by the controls. I'll probably go back to it one day but not in the near future. I'll probably watch a playthrough and jump straight into 2.
Oh, remakes.
Alternate controls in RE1make were added in the HD version. It's not made for it and you'll constantly flail around as the camera angle changes, which I assume is the source of your frustation. Also, TURN OFF WIDESCREEN. It's not a true widescreen, it's actually zooming in on a 4:3 aspect ratio and cropping the top and bottom off the screen. That's why the camera moves up and down as you're running around. The backgrounds are pre-rendered, it can't ever be a true widescreen.
That 16:9 option is a cancer.
I finished it at the highest difficulty available at the start, I'm not sure if that's Nightmare or Inferno or whatever they called it. That one felt like a good difficulty for most of the game, but the last boss was very hard and not fun at all. He pretty much instakills you and is constantly spamming attacks that you have to dodge like it's Dark Souls but way harder. Maybe they've patched it now because such disparity in difficulty always feels terrible, especially when you can get locked out of finishing the game at the last boss even though the rest was manageable.
The rolling head was legitimately moronic on inferno. Only way to guarantee you don't die from it is to dodge instantly after the cutscene. Otherwise it's luck whether you're able to run away from it in time. The rolling head was harder than the last boss imo
Ex piggy wiggy here. We worked in a city that was a dump and me and a buddy got put on a special detail way out of our area literally in the fricking woods. Radio didn’t work anymore when we got to the area. Could only call by phone. I remember sitting there and thinking “wow if anything weird happens we’re doomed out here”. We joked about it. So yeah no help cooming for you in the woods, on a mountain, during a storm.
They didn't have radio and Wesker is their "superior".
but everything was planned as Wesker led them to the mansion to test the zombies against them and he was arranging with RPD's chief about this so it couldn't help it
There are a number of ways to render modern communications useless for these stories. Mostly remote locations with little to no coverage. Or just break them.
What would you equip your bsaa teams with? I'd want something that does heavy tissue damage to put down unarmored bows like zombies and lickers, but for big guys(4u) something that hits really hard and penetrates would be more preferable. Hunters for example have hides that are in lore resistant to small arms fire. I always thought something like that .50 cal ar would be nice to have in those scenarios.
And just as soon as you did the next wave of BOW would be 16 inch tall velociraptor-like BOW that attack in packs of 20. The ONLY thing I can say about leading BSAA armaments, other than having dedicated R&D to making better counter-pick weapons all the time, is that I'd cover a wide goddamn base.
I'm talking a default 8 man squad
2 Standard riflemen with standard 556 rounds and a choice of jacketed soft points and armor piercing rounds. Undermount weapon of their choice.
2 Sweepers. Equipped with mid-short weapons like shotguns, SMGs and those AMAZING mini flamethrowers that are everywhere in Resident Evil. NOTE I will have BSAA develop a canister of acid to spray as well because the rock-paper-scissors logic of Resident Evil suggests anything not weak to fire or bullet is weak to acid.
1 Sharpshooter with upwards of 50cal rounds with all sorts of trick ammo.
1 Machine gunner with operationally dictated 30/50 cal machine gun.
1 Demolitions expert with flavors of grenade rounds as well as area denial.
1 Medic who is would also have any specialized counter-agent however it's manifested for the specific BOW being fought.
With all sorts of backup weapons, grenades, mounted guns, and special ordinance on whatever vehicle I deploy them in.
>Literally everyone talking about Wesker bigbrain keikaku
Here's the simple answer: their radios wouldn't reach anyone.
I should probably back this up by saying I am 37 years old. I have been an avid camper and outdoorsman for the entirety of my life. This was released in 1996 and retconned to take place in 1998, in a mountain range. A handheld LMRS radio could at extreme communicate 6-8 miles under ideal conditions. Ideal on a mountain is not anywhere other than the peaks. Since nowhere in RE1 or the REmake do we see the skyline of Raccoon City, and the Remake, knowing what is later established about Raccoon City shows at least two ridges to fly over and still nothing beyond it in the sunlight. I'd guess at least a dozen miles from whereabouts the mansion to Raccoon City if not 20 or more. But it is certainly not line of sight to any receivers.
The US military didn't have handheld radios with TPO that were reliable to broadcast 20 miles during Desert Storm. For anyone to have hope of communicating they'd need:
-A radio pack with significantly more power to have it carry and a whip antenna long enough to broadcast it.
-A base station with all of the above or possible a lower threshhold with better broadcast position -like oh say a helicopter-. OR a base station with skywave capabilities. Which means they bounce the signal off the ionosphere. Which is roughly equivalent to needing a 100 mile range just to receive your own transmission.
This is all a wordy way of saying that with a helicopter, it seems reasonable they'd have the means to contact Police HQ. Once Brad took it and left: without a dedicated field radio operator in STARS there's no way they'd've been able to call for help from Raccoon City. And I'm 99% confident even with all of STARS's duties that range from Search and Rescue to NARC to SWAT that they'd not have needed one.
Arent THEY the superiors? No one but the normal cops and Irons was left back at the police station. Imagine coming back and trying to explain how 80% of the local SWAT team died in the place that is now a crater in a forest.
>Game starts >Calls hq >Oh shit that's fricked up we'll send help >Everyone just sits in the lobby for two hours until another chopper arrives >Credits roll
BRAVE CAPCOM
Wesker finds a chance to leave the room or uses Barry
Wesker releases the hunters
Wesker still blows up the place so that there are no survivors
Trying to make it a realistc setting also means that there are no safe areas, the lobby would also get invaded by zombies.
Zombies and Hunters can open doors so it'd be cool if they really could wander around on their own. I'd even give Hunters something like a nerfed version of X's AI where they'd be attracted to gunfire and other Hunters screeching in adjacent rooms.
They were several dozen, maybe even hundred, miles out into a neighbouring forest, inside a building designed to trap and kill people, their helicopter and comms guy having run away, and the only antagonist being their commanding officer.
radio interference
>radio interference
They weren't even given standard issue uniform and body armour. They basically just had to buy their own.
The radios were likely the cheapest second hand version they could find, probably from a flea market. New batteries would be a luxury.
>officers had to buy some of their kit
... this isn't uncommon in small cities with low budgets.
speaking of superiors, the manhua went more into umbrella's chairmen, having a T-Type even desperately protecting what appears to be the top dog. in the vidyas umbrella practically went away with a fart (RE4 said stock market iirc)
>manhua
Not canon.
Where is it implied in that post that it's canon?
did she eat a flashlight?
Heart's Desire and Heavenly Island are both canon.
I know, since they are officially stated by Capcom to be canon.
The Chinese RE manga (manhua) are not canon.
Claire was pretty hot in it. So were most of the young female characters.
indeed
>shitty art is canon
Why is this always the case? I want to live in the timeline where the manhua is canon, ie, where Tofu is an actual human subjected to umbrella's experiments with basedbeans & acid that attracts zombies in order to bite him; with regen powers ofc. Goddamn what a chad.
Is it good? And translated?
There are a few of them -- some translated. There's also a translated one of Dino Crisis. As for good or not, well, they get really out there like wtf was the writer smoking kinda way, but there are some kino moments like Leon v. Licker
Wasn’t just the stock market, they got tried in a huge multinational court case, and all the lawyers in the world couldn’t help them when raccoon came out, plus all the other smaller firms wanted a piece of them too. Basically the top brass got gutted, they were kicked out or shut down across the world, and with all the fines and stock failure they got hit with they were completely fricked
Oh I know, it was just to sum up that it was dealt mostly off screen and in a rather solely burocratic way ie unexciting af. Too much Tell and little to no Show.
Probably cause 4 was focused on a new threat(and basically a side story). 5 focuses on a post umbrella world, and I actually really like how it shows the fallout from their shutdown with bows being spread by third parties in conflicts around the world
I know as to why: Mikami simply wanted a new, fresh threat. But it's the how it was mostly dealt with (ie quickly brushed off at the beginning of RE4) that sucked imo. And as for RE5, in case you weren't aware, that iteration was initially planned to be fricking Attack on Titan -- picrel
Let's just say that Leon is not the father
Not that surprising, out of all the plagas monsters the lotr trolls make the most sense to weaponize.
It’s kinda cool but they look a little goofy, this is him, the tyrants are basically mr.x but with cheesy visors. Apparently umbrella used clones of him to develop the base body of the tyrants
>the lotr trolls
arent they giant debilitas?
Chris wanted to bear the white man's burden alone and didn't want them to send in black people, Chris was obscenely racist before he met Sheva
he kept killing thousands of black people even after he met sheva
That was merciful of him
>people
Wasnxt originally Chris supposed to be the descendant of an SS officer but the family fled to USA during the Russian advance or something like that?
Wait, SHEVA WAS BLACK??
poor chad got so used to the stink of rotting flesh that he couldnt even tell that she was black just from the smell
Not his fault. Everything there was a sort of washed out yellow-brown color. Half the people on that African town looked like they were white or hispanic. How was a man to tell?
I mean even with the piss filter he could tell that she's not the same color of his arm nor as dark as the west african soldiers. Speaking of which, her bio says she's west african but, seeing as she's of lighter skin, did the portuguese railed one of her ancestors?
and while we're at it: look at that fricking claw
>wait a minute, all those zombies I killed were really black people?!
>win win
They didnt have any radios. the game literally shows this as Jill/Chris eventually finds a radio and tries to use it to contact brad but it doesnt work
>They didnt have any radios.
Which makes no sense. We know Wesker sabotaged the Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopter, so maybe we can extrapolate here that he also had a hand in each STARS member not having a radio on them at all times?
They left a lot of equipment in the helicopter
But a radio is supposed to be at all times with them, right? No reason as to why they would've left them in the chopper
doesn't the game open on them being chased inside by dogs, they probably just didn't have time to grab everything they needed
Yes, but why would the radios be in the helicopter in the first place and not with them -- they're portable and special units usually carry them in on of their many pockets. Wesker maybe convinced them to leave them in chopper during their trip to the mansion?
I'm just trying to come up with a reasonable explanation here for fun, mind you. I know it's because it helps the feeling of isolation for its horror setting.
They should retcon it to show an EMP taking down the chopper and the radios
Wouldn't that destroy the helicopter from the crash? It's not like they're just going to get them a second one, seeing as they're deliberately trying to get them killed.
>second
Third. Bravo team's helicopter went down too.
But Wesker sabotaged the chopper, retconning it to being an EMP would change a lot.
Didnt they eventually connect the two -- picrel?
Man I've read the wiki multiple times and I've never seen that.
How is las plagas being developed by umbrella possible if they were fossilized under Salazar's castle?
Red Queen or Umbrella may have been running a signal jammer from inside the facility to prevent leaks
That'd make sense, as things went to shit that emergency program kicked off
No they had done at least some recon, and were communicating by yelling to one another prior to the cerberus attack. It's not like they were attacked as soon as they all had their feet on the ground.
Bravo team has their radios. Wesker had a radio. Barry had a radio. Someone might argue Barry and Wesker were coordinating and they didn't want to have their conversations overheard. But why would they both give the player that radio then?
Even if it was "All according to Wesker's plan" I don't buy the chaos at the landing was all part of it, there is no possible way for him to plan what everyone has in their kit. If we buy his stated motivation he wanted to collect combat data. Which even if it was for his own use rather than selling: I do believe. Bravo team had impressive firepower, Barry's carrying a magnum which is like shooting six shotguns at once in the RE universe and half the weapon upgrades you get in RE1 are just salvaging STARS equipment. He'd want Chris to have his marksman rifle, and Jill to have... well something other than a handgun.
>that pic
Do people really have chest holsters for rifles?
yep
Seems like it would get in the way, why not just use a sling
I can't claim to know the mind of someone who wears a do-rag.
Only the kind of people who are issued multicolor Vietnam-era flak jackets
Chris didn't even have a gun. It's never really explained.
That we could infer that he dropped it while shooting the doggos and running
I can buy that. It makes sense. I don't mind that they never go into the details about it, since that means we can get straight into the game.
yeah, as long as it isnt jarring it's OK to leave it at that since there are numerous scenarios that could justify it. But the radio part is something that's hard to ignore, like when cellphones somehow vanish in modern horror movies or have the most nonsensical reasoning as to why they don't work.
It wouldve been neat if Chris had a pack of cigs on him tho, Snake-style.
I'VE GOT A SHOTGUN
>last time chris smoked
The withdrawl is what eventually made him punch boulders
>last time
Well technically https://youtu.be/x711B_0pLjM?t=70
Not everyone would be equipped with a long range radio capable of communication with the police headquarters in Raccoon. Richard was the communications expert in the S.T.A.R.S so he should have the radio, but since Bravo's Helicopter was downed maybe they lost their radio there. Wesker seems to be the secondary radioman for when teams are split, considering his earpiece similar to richard's and he is the one that gives you the radio in the original game instead of richard in the remake, but in both iterations the radio is busted and can only receive but not transmit.
>Wesker seems to be the secondary radioman for when teams are split
But isnt it the normal procedure for every squad member to have a radio in them in order to communicate with each other if such a scenario as splitting up happens?
a short range walkie-talkie maybe. Not enough to reach the police station all the way through the woods and the arklay mountains.
You could argue that Raccoon is a small community and the police didn't think necessary to equip every man in their 13 strong swat team with walkie-talkies since they're supposed to always be working in teams or in very close vicinity.
Hm, interesting. That'd make perfect sense.
>You could argue that Raccoon is a small community
Let's crunch the numbers
>It's an industrial city with a population of roughly 100,000, located in the US's midwest. It covers an area of 630 square kilometres (243 sq mi), with a maximum north-south distance of 21 kilometres (13 mi) and a maximum east-west distance of 43 km (27 mi). It has a 46-kilometre (29 mi) long waterfront shoreline, on the northwestern shore of Lake Ontario.
Walkie-talkies wouldve been a must.
S.T.A.R.S aren't regular police though, they're a 13 men strong special operations team. They don't need to patrol or cover any distance. They go into a tricky situation as a team or as a squad and then they leave when its resolved
Shit happens. Doesn’t make sense then went at night either. Don’t think to hard, none of the main cast do.
>Doesn’t make sense then went at night either.
They were going after the first chopper that crashed as a rescue mission. Why wouldn't they go just because it was night? Its not like they knew about zombies and other umbrella shit.
>We know Wesker sabotaged the Bell UH-1 Iroquois helicopter
Yes, Wesker sabotaged it, no one else...
Why would Becca, which btfo'd absolute beasts in Zero, sabotaged the chopper? Was she eager for moar gruesome action?
Wesker is their superior.
Wesker and Irons wanted them dead. They wouldn't have helped them.
Wesker was their superior. And we see Chris trying to escalate it to the chief of police and beyond in RE2, but of course most of RC's authority figures are on Umbrella's payroll.
> Cannibal flesh eating monsters you say?
> And to deal with this you want some body armour and firearms better than that issue 9mm we gave you?
> Well no can do, just ask Barry, we spent all of the firearms budget on that handcannon of his.
> An no i'm not going to give you an RCPD uniform. I've already given our yearly allocation to the new recruits.
>browning hi-power is standard issue
>stars has designer berettas
>new recruits issued discontinued polymer handgun
Who the frick is in charge of procurement
tofu
HiP is not so bad. Knowing japs I wouldn't be surprised if it had been .38 revolvers or 1911.
>discontinued polymer handgun
Wasn't Leon like a special snowflake? He had vp70 before arriving to his new appointment.
Originally it was rcpds new standard handgun, but they retconned it in remake to leon being a /k/ommando and bringing his own custom with him
>Originally it was rcpds new standard handgun
Now it sounds more realistic, as if it was cheaper or bureaucratically easier to reequip the department with deprecated handguns than Berettas or Glocks
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Eh not really, vp70s weren’t exactly a budget firearm, and they were out of production too so not really easy to equip an entire police force with
Literally Barry
RPD clearly has a "officer's choice" policy on weapons, allowing officers to purchase their own choice of handguns.
Also who uses Browning HP aside from kevin?
In the original re2 claire gets her hp from the glovebox of the patrol car they found
Oh yeah
Who exactly? They are from a regional PD and they ARE an equivalent to SWAT. Irons? He was probably busy recounting his bribe money. Speaking of the radios, well it's really strange. If they are specialised in rescue tactics radios were imperative for hanging around the woods they had went to. It's both for coordination and trying to catch the transmissions of the lost team. What I'm surprised at is how Umbrella didn't send its mercs for cleanup at the mansion. Were they leaning on Birkin and Wesker so much?
>Were they leaning on Birkin and Wesker so much?
UH JEEZ ANON I wonder how they couldn't expect a bunch of police officer with an impostor to slay hundreds of B.O.W.
If they expected the policemen to be terminated they must've had a plan for cleanup as well. And bombing the lab is just for getting rid of the evidence. It's like they were working with mutants and not highly contagious virus. With such attitude the movies were a better depiction of the carelessness with the world wide infestation.
In 0 there is an umbrella team sent in to secure research data, they get wiped out by the leech dude. Also the rail shooter game has the head of umbrella security show up with two tyrants to btfo wesker and insure they wipe out the facility
The team from 0 was ambushed by the unexpected leech geezer, yeah, but weren't they also toyed with by Wesker and Birkin? Also the intel retrieval team was sent only to the older compound of the assassinated researcher. They weren't expected to make BOW cleanup because nobody thought the grandad would get resurrected.
>the head of umbrella security show up with two tyrants to btfo wesker and insure they wipe out the facility
Now that sounds cool, what a shame I can't play the chronicles.
>I can't play the chronicles.
Why not? They emulate flawlessly and play better with M+KB than they do on native hardware.
Because no
simply too busy
Do mods work again with the rollback update?
I just used a torrent of a previous build
What's this update?
>But it's the how it was mostly dealt with (ie quickly brushed off at the beginning of RE4)
I've said this a few times, but it boggles my mind that Plagas weren't related to any Umbrella experiments. 3 introduced the Nemesis parasite, controls its host's mind and was developed by Umbrella's European branch. Then Leon goes to Europe and encounters a mind-controlling parasite, and it has nothing to do with Umbrella.
I feel like there was a big opening to keep Umbrella alive in some form in 4. Perhaps Saddler could have been an Umbrella exec that went crazy (like they all do) and used some parasites that Umbrella was researching on himself and others.
A lot of umbrellas bow design was developed from viruses that appeared in nature, so it’s not that surprising a parasite like las plagas existed without their involvement. Umbrella remnants refine it in re5 with a new strain.
You gays and your titty mods are the absolute worst. KYS Black folk
the only gay person here is you though
if they could/did, they wouldve called for re-reinforcements
Weren’t they the reinforcements?
you want them to call more reinforcements?
They were the test stubjects for combat data with a highly trained squad. Unfortunately, they were too good at their job.
If you can't handle the controls in 1, what makes you think 2 will be any different?
Bros I've been trying to play Re1 for 5 hours now and I don't think I'll finish it.
I got filtered by the controls. I'll probably go back to it one day but not in the near future. I'll probably watch a playthrough and jump straight into 2.
OG re1 or remake1? Pretty sure remake has an option to turn off tank controls
I think they are set on "Alternate"
Isn't remake2 third person?
Oh, remakes.
Alternate controls in RE1make were added in the HD version. It's not made for it and you'll constantly flail around as the camera angle changes, which I assume is the source of your frustation. Also, TURN OFF WIDESCREEN. It's not a true widescreen, it's actually zooming in on a 4:3 aspect ratio and cropping the top and bottom off the screen. That's why the camera moves up and down as you're running around. The backgrounds are pre-rendered, it can't ever be a true widescreen.
That 16:9 option is a cancer.
Both RE2 and REmake2 are third person. One is fixed camera and the other is over-the-shoulder.
Their direct superior was in on it and led them there to die.
You mean Enrico and Wesker?
they were literally with their captain as said
Spencer Mansion is up in the fricking mountains, they were beyond radio contact
How tough is Resi 3 Remake Nightmare mode?
I finished it at the highest difficulty available at the start, I'm not sure if that's Nightmare or Inferno or whatever they called it. That one felt like a good difficulty for most of the game, but the last boss was very hard and not fun at all. He pretty much instakills you and is constantly spamming attacks that you have to dodge like it's Dark Souls but way harder. Maybe they've patched it now because such disparity in difficulty always feels terrible, especially when you can get locked out of finishing the game at the last boss even though the rest was manageable.
The rolling head was legitimately moronic on inferno. Only way to guarantee you don't die from it is to dodge instantly after the cutscene. Otherwise it's luck whether you're able to run away from it in time. The rolling head was harder than the last boss imo
Piss easy with the infinite rocket launcher
Ex piggy wiggy here. We worked in a city that was a dump and me and a buddy got put on a special detail way out of our area literally in the fricking woods. Radio didn’t work anymore when we got to the area. Could only call by phone. I remember sitting there and thinking “wow if anything weird happens we’re doomed out here”. We joked about it. So yeah no help cooming for you in the woods, on a mountain, during a storm.
ah yes, wesker wouldve surely helped.
Why did REmake/RE6 Jill have Downs syndrome? I'm glad RE3make redeemed her
Jill isn't in 6
I meant 5
Underrated
the end of jake/sherry campaign is hilarious with the infinite explosion and the characters on a rocket sled that's going 1300 mph.
Wasn't Ada a clone or something too? It was silly but still fun
There was the real Ada who you can play as and there was a clone made by a dude who was thirsting after her.
From what i remember she was the key to everything too
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Did you not play the game? Chris and Jill are the superior lifeforms.
>jill obsessed troony already in the thread
where
They didn't have radio and Wesker is their "superior".
but everything was planned as Wesker led them to the mansion to test the zombies against them and he was arranging with RPD's chief about this so it couldn't help it
So many old horror stories are completely obsolete today thanks to mobile and especially smartphones. Also wtf, did they make the gay captchas longer?
There are a number of ways to render modern communications useless for these stories. Mostly remote locations with little to no coverage. Or just break them.
Turns out the real monster was MAN
What would you equip your bsaa teams with? I'd want something that does heavy tissue damage to put down unarmored bows like zombies and lickers, but for big guys(4u) something that hits really hard and penetrates would be more preferable. Hunters for example have hides that are in lore resistant to small arms fire. I always thought something like that .50 cal ar would be nice to have in those scenarios.
>What would you equip your bsaa teams with
Patches that read "S.T.A.R.S.".
And just as soon as you did the next wave of BOW would be 16 inch tall velociraptor-like BOW that attack in packs of 20. The ONLY thing I can say about leading BSAA armaments, other than having dedicated R&D to making better counter-pick weapons all the time, is that I'd cover a wide goddamn base.
I'm talking a default 8 man squad
2 Standard riflemen with standard 556 rounds and a choice of jacketed soft points and armor piercing rounds. Undermount weapon of their choice.
2 Sweepers. Equipped with mid-short weapons like shotguns, SMGs and those AMAZING mini flamethrowers that are everywhere in Resident Evil. NOTE I will have BSAA develop a canister of acid to spray as well because the rock-paper-scissors logic of Resident Evil suggests anything not weak to fire or bullet is weak to acid.
1 Sharpshooter with upwards of 50cal rounds with all sorts of trick ammo.
1 Machine gunner with operationally dictated 30/50 cal machine gun.
1 Demolitions expert with flavors of grenade rounds as well as area denial.
1 Medic who is would also have any specialized counter-agent however it's manifested for the specific BOW being fought.
With all sorts of backup weapons, grenades, mounted guns, and special ordinance on whatever vehicle I deploy them in.
>Literally everyone talking about Wesker bigbrain keikaku
Here's the simple answer: their radios wouldn't reach anyone.
I should probably back this up by saying I am 37 years old. I have been an avid camper and outdoorsman for the entirety of my life. This was released in 1996 and retconned to take place in 1998, in a mountain range. A handheld LMRS radio could at extreme communicate 6-8 miles under ideal conditions. Ideal on a mountain is not anywhere other than the peaks. Since nowhere in RE1 or the REmake do we see the skyline of Raccoon City, and the Remake, knowing what is later established about Raccoon City shows at least two ridges to fly over and still nothing beyond it in the sunlight. I'd guess at least a dozen miles from whereabouts the mansion to Raccoon City if not 20 or more. But it is certainly not line of sight to any receivers.
The US military didn't have handheld radios with TPO that were reliable to broadcast 20 miles during Desert Storm. For anyone to have hope of communicating they'd need:
-A radio pack with significantly more power to have it carry and a whip antenna long enough to broadcast it.
-A base station with all of the above or possible a lower threshhold with better broadcast position -like oh say a helicopter-. OR a base station with skywave capabilities. Which means they bounce the signal off the ionosphere. Which is roughly equivalent to needing a 100 mile range just to receive your own transmission.
This is all a wordy way of saying that with a helicopter, it seems reasonable they'd have the means to contact Police HQ. Once Brad took it and left: without a dedicated field radio operator in STARS there's no way they'd've been able to call for help from Raccoon City. And I'm 99% confident even with all of STARS's duties that range from Search and Rescue to NARC to SWAT that they'd not have needed one.
Arent THEY the superiors? No one but the normal cops and Irons was left back at the police station. Imagine coming back and trying to explain how 80% of the local SWAT team died in the place that is now a crater in a forest.
Raccoon City does have a SWAT Team. They tried to replace STARS with a new Special Police Force or SPF after RE1 but they had the SWAT Team already.
>Game starts
>Calls hq
>Oh shit that's fricked up we'll send help
>Everyone just sits in the lobby for two hours until another chopper arrives
>Credits roll
BRAVE CAPCOM
Wesker finds a chance to leave the room or uses Barry
Wesker releases the hunters
Wesker still blows up the place so that there are no survivors
Trying to make it a realistc setting also means that there are no safe areas, the lobby would also get invaded by zombies.
Zombies and Hunters can open doors so it'd be cool if they really could wander around on their own. I'd even give Hunters something like a nerfed version of X's AI where they'd be attracted to gunfire and other Hunters screeching in adjacent rooms.
They were several dozen, maybe even hundred, miles out into a neighbouring forest, inside a building designed to trap and kill people, their helicopter and comms guy having run away, and the only antagonist being their commanding officer.