Why didn't you tell me this was a masterpiece?

Why didn't you tell me this was a masterpiece?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i really liked hr and really don't like md

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      why
      don't say the ending

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        hr was simpler
        md was like an art project, with gameplay coming second
        also no toggle aim option in a shooter is heresy

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          MD looked amazing and had far more to explore in the environment than HR
          Also toggle aim is for psychopaths

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        plot itself honestly didn’t seem that interesting to me
        purely on a subjective level
        i like the game still though
        the dlc in the prison was great and made me replay chronicles of riddick

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shame the stuttering has no reliable fix - it works for some and not for others.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What fixes DID you try?

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember this game being loved when it came out, back beforeGanker had gone almost full contrairian. Probably one of the better games to come out that generation.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >because Ganker is full of chuddies
    This game is full of conspiracy theories that don't go well with current events.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why didn't you tell me this was a masterpiece?

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You never asked.
    also frick the vent based level design

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Surely you mean
      >fricking based vent level design

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's alright. The original is closer to a masterpiece for being much stronger in a lot of ways, and while HR did make improvements in a lot of ways they didn't improve on DX' most important aspects. In some ways, they regressed. I will acknowledge that there was a big publisher-imposed trend at the time to simplify everything for console players, and that they didn't have nearly as much time or budget to develop Human Revolution as the original. Under those restrictions, it coming out as good as it did was a genuine miracle. Except for hacking, frick hacking.

    I feel like MD comes closer to the original as far as design goes while still applying a modern coat of paint, but that game has plenty of problems on its own that bring it down. And they really should've dropped all the fricking hacking.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because its not, for one it has a really bland and generic soundtrack meaning it can't be a "masterpiece", second its way too gimmicky for its own good, overall its not remotely comparable to the original Deus Ex aka an actual masterpiece.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >really bland and generic soundtrack
      kys

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I bet you cry when you watch Marvel movie trailers too, dumb moviegay

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          i prefer star wars

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't bland and generic, it is just atmospheric. It's mean to be in the background. It is instantly recognizable but it also isn't memorable which is what they were going for I think.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aka its shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Bland and generic soundtrack
      Most of it is just background music. It isn't meant to be super exciting and high energy or anything. The only 2 games that I genuinely feel comfortable saying I could recognize the background music from is "pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky" and "the elder scrolls Skyrim". Which I've played a lot of both, and they stick out a lot more than others.
      >It's too gimmicky
      Thats a big nothing statement.
      >Overall not remotely comparable to the original Deus Ex
      They're both first person shooter with rpg mechanics, focus heavily on conspiracy, are set in a distopian cyberpunk world, and have you play as a gritty agent type person with cybernetic enhancements of some sort of other.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We did.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We had non stop threads about it when it came out

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you make a cyberpunk RPG and not have hacking absolutely broken?
    The games I've played in the genre, being every Deus Ex, Shadowrun, Starcrawlers, System Shock etc you are absolutely gimping yourself if you do not engage with hacking as a mechanic and will lose out on a massive amount of loot, side objectives, additional lore/messages and whatnot, disabling or hacking security systems and so on. I get that in that setting everything and its mother is controlled by computers so it makes sense but how do you work around a single skill being so crucial that you're kind of forced to use it?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      add alternatives to hacking

      instead of hacking you can find a password written on a sticky note somewhere, or maybe there's a rare item to bypass having to hack a device, maybe if you shock a computer with your stun gun enough it shuts down security, shit like that

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        But then you run into the issue where the convenience of just pressing HACK COMPUTER outright trumps looking around for the password, I've had this issue a lot with the original Deus Ex.

        >really bland and generic soundtrack
        kys

        I get Icarus is a pretty neat track but the rest of the soundtrack is pretty forgettable though. Even the hengsha hub music.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >directors cut
    Lol
    Lmao even

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy contrariangay

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's contrarian to dislike a broken wiiU backport which introduces bugs and broken shaders and fricks up the pacing of the game by forcing you to play missing link

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT'S WRONG JENSEN
    GOT STUCK IN AN AIR VENT ON THE WAY HERE?

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >anti-government
    >anti-racism
    /v/israelites hate games like this
    see how they hate MGS2 for the same reason

    they want you to play shit like Mario and Zelda because they promote cuckoldery and Pokemon because it promotes zoophilia

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate MGS2 because the MC I got sucked.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        filtered

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Black person it's been 12 years since release. If you for whatever reason didn't play this game in 12 years wtf are you even doing on Ganker ?

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You never asked us to.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You weren't ready

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure Ganker has never shit on a Deus Ex except Invisible War.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You probably weren't old enough when it came out to have heard it was

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eliza Cassan!

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You didnt ask for it.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >director's cut
    HAHAHAHA
    play vanilla and missing link you nig

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        better

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Missing Link.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where the frick do I get the vanilla version without getting ransomware?

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i unironically loved piss-filter.
    for some reason it made visuals comfy and atmospheric, but when they removed it in Directors Cut, it became cold and generic.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good game but I hate the DC and I retroactively hate these devs.
    >removed the strong aesthetic because it was called piss filter as a bandwagon meme, but it was never a serious complaint, many times just used ironically, let alone game breaking

    For MD, a couple years later:
    >attempted to ass frick the fans with horrible day one DLC
    >released the game with no proper ending or conclusion. Shit just cuts to black suddenly and you see the credits roll
    >continued the storyline with the MC from the previous game, while it was established that he was killed and dead as frick, and they did frick-all to acknowledge it

    Some people just become moronic when they get a modicum of success and these Black folk are a prime example of that

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >continued the storyline with the MC from the previous game, while it was established that he was killed and dead as frick,
      >and they did frick-all to acknowledge it
      Anon you moron

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fake Vega
        >fake Sarif
        >fake Jensen
        MD is a psyops by the Illoomeenatee to catch Janus, bratan

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>fake Vega
          >>fake Sarif

          I know jensen's a clone but sarif and vega are fake? hell, vega is new.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            IIRC for Sarif along the new voice his bloodtype is different. Vega isn't new, her first appearance is The Fall.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Vega appeared before, but was blackwashed for MD

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I don't get it either. The original had such strong art direction and they botched it because of some memes. And they did a half assed job at changing it too because all of the CGI cutscenes are still gold.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also they showcased early signs of degen behavior. The lead artist liked himself so much that he used his own face as the main character

      >continued the storyline with the MC from the previous game, while it was established that he was killed and dead as frick,
      >and they did frick-all to acknowledge it
      Anon you moron

      My point still stands; they show this shit and nothing happens. It's a waste of time and effort

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not their fault that Squenix cancelled the third game in the trilogy.
        San Francisco would've been kino.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's their fault for making MD about fricking nothing and making a logical sequel to the first game.
          MD may as well be its own thing if it wasn't for the remaining 1% that addresses HR.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they show this shit and nothing happens. It's a waste of time and effort
        Gosh a second part of a trilogy having unresolved secrets. Guess we'd better lambast it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think that, outside of the missions they clearly cut out of the game to sell as DLC, that MD was unfinished at launch. The average time it takes to beat is about the same as the other games, it's just that the pacing is so fricking awful that only real important story beats appear near the beginning and end. During most of the game you're just fricking about in Prague, you only really infiltrate something feeling like a proper base twice (the Switzerland base and the bank), and you don't travel much outside of Prague in general.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >My point still stands; they show this shit and nothing happens. It's a waste of time and effort
        Pretty clearly intended as set up for the next game, especially since the prison DLC went harder into the implanted memory shit (and implying Jenson knows something is up).

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >they show this shit and nothing happens. It's a waste of time and effort
          Gosh a second part of a trilogy having unresolved secrets. Guess we'd better lambast it.

          >but think of the sequel bait !

          frick off

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not their fault that Squenix cancelled the third game in the trilogy.
        San Francisco would've been kino.

        There's plenty of fault to go around
        >pulling a bunch of resources from the DX team to work on Marvel's Avengers instead
        >not marketing the game- the game had absolutely no hype going into it compared to all the normies who at least knew about the "I never asked for this" meme for HR
        >the story goes absolutely nowhere and gets bogged down with paper thin "aug racism bad" plot points beating the player over the head for its duration
        >I know people b***hed about the bosses in HR, but cutting all bosses except the final one, and having that final one be some dumb gorilla that you should have fought back in Golem City was a horrible idea

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It feels like half a game.
          But it's a damn good and polished half a game.
          So it's hard to get mad at it.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boomers were bust jerking off to the orinial game and dismiss any sequel or prequel that's why. Deus Ex went to shit because of it's fanbase.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker has daily DX threads where HR receives praise, you blind, illiterate frick

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    because the main quest is short and cuts off less than half way, it's not as good as HR's main quest, outside the main hub world the locations aren't as interesting the side quests are the star of the show, and Square used resources to inject a crappy mobile wannabe game inside MD.
    also Delara.
    I still like it, comfy hub world, great atmosphere, music, side quests, better gameplay, but the devs and publisher screwed over what could've been a 10/10 and we'll never see a sequel to it again.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >no mention of trans anywhere in the thread
    >HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW THAT I HATE ANTI-TRANS?!?!!
    Holy shit, frick off

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been suggesting it since it's $3 this steam sale.
    It's amazing.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me?
    It's Prague.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      for me it's Prague at night

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      for me it's Prague at night

      This game has aged like wine.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        for me it's Prague at night

        For me?
        It's Prague.

        Yeah, MD gets a lot of hate, but if you played it without expecting the story to go past 'Act 1.5' of a global conspiracy plot, it's the second best Deus-Ex game.

        Also, there is lots of story content, about as much as HR, it's just that it doesn't really reach a conclusion. It's like a perfect prequel game, whatever was planned to come after would have been absolute top-tier kino. It basically sets everything up so that the sequel could start off at 75mph instead of spending the first 10 hours picking up speed.

        I wonder whether they'll finish the jensen saga or start something new. tbh I hope they finish, because it was good.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not a fan of european style cities in cyberpunk. I much preferred Detroit and Hengsha

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well the idea was that the world was set back by the aug incident and going to an old world city was supposed to represent that.
        Like the opening takes place in Dubai to heavily contrast waking up in old world Prague.
        The only real problem is (once again) the game isn't long enough to properly reintroduce the Cyberpunk cities in the last half.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous
  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DX:HR comes out
    >Everybody hates the piss filter and it's widely mocked
    >DX:HR DC comes out
    >Everybody loves the piss filter and the game is ruined without it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      DC removes much more than the piss filter, it downgrades lighting and shaders due to being based on the shitty WiiU port.
      I think morons just don't realize this and think the image looks awful just becasue there is no more yellow tint.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >disingenuous muh both sides Black persondom
      The people complaining about the filter were histrionic subhuman homosexuals who's argument was "ree I noticed it exists, therefore bad!"

      While the people complaining about its removal are pointing out that the art direction of the game is raped since it's all the texture were made grey to work in tandem with the gold filter, which is now gone so the game is grey mush, and the post-processing pipeline was broken so a bunch of other FX are busted too.

      These are not equivalent, one side is completely in the right, and the Black folk crying about the pissfilter existing were wrong.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is IW worth playing? I tried it but had some performance issues and if it's not worth it, I don't want to bother - setting the game up seems like a pain in the ass

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ye

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's only worth it for the story. The gameplay is absolute trash, but story wise, it is a direct continuation of DX1 and heavily features JC and Paul. If you're a lore autist like me, it's worth suffering through the horrible gameplay just to see how the story ends. Beyond that, however, it's not worth it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The writing is all over the place. It feels unfinished and it's very easy to lose track of the thread of the story.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just to see how the story ends
        which ending of DE does it run with? I thought Helios was canon, but that kinda kills any sequel potential

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They went with a combination of the Helios and Tong endings. JC merges with Helios becoming a sort of digital demigod and destroys Area 51, plunging the world into a technological dark age

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. The intro cutscene is cool, NG Resonance is kinda memorable, seeing JC again is neat. Your time is better spent elsewhere.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    but muh gold filter

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They took it out of the directors cut and the game looks worse for it

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    MD is better in every possible way,dilate HR sluuts.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better in some ways, worse in others. Better gameplay, better augs and aug balance, better hub cities. Far worse story.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No ending
      >Forced homosexual character
      >Bad racial apartheid allegory
      >None of the memorable characters from HR return in a significant way and their replacements aren't as good
      >It's not a personal story for Jensen
      I MD but no.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It will never be acceptable for you to expose your genitals to elementary school children.

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hated the cutscene pause-the-world takedowns in HR
    >Thought everyone else did too including the devs and is otherwise just a slight blemish on an otherwise incredible game
    >They kept it in MD so clearly the devs thought it was a good enough idea to keep in
    I know it isn't a big deal and but it just really rubs me the wrong way

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >JC and Adam are considered one of the bests protags in gaming
    How are the other two protagonists? Are they good bad or meh?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alex Denton is just a generic early-2000s whiteboy with gelled hair. No personality.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Other two? There's only JC (1), Alex (2) and Adam (3 and 4) AFAIK. Alex Denton from tbh Sex 2 Indivisble Bore is pretty boring.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        That one guy from Deus ex the fall

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          First time I ever heard of it. Apparently it was a iphone game at first?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a shitty mobile version of DSHR with its own story based off of the novel.
            Kinda feels like one of those PSP games based off of PS2 games, where it's a smaller and flimsier version of the game with a new plotline.

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We did

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you're just as much Ganker as any other person here, tard

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do so many here complain about the DC's broken lighting and lack of gold filter when a mod has pretty much fixed this? It's not perfect but close enough I'd say

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"mod has pretty much fixed this?"
      >immediately follows it by saying it didn't fix it

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I said it pretty much fixed it, not completely, you illiterate moron. Whatever it didn't fix is unnoticeable unless you look really closely at comparison shots in certain areas. But that's nitpicking at that point

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't fix shit, moron. The filter is altered dynamically for each level in og HR, while the "fix" for DC can only do the same preset for every level.
          Meaning that only a few parts look close to accurate, while most of it is just fricked up in a different way.

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Human Revolution perfected the formula from a gameplay point of view, it's a shame the writing was extremely shit

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    MD is even better

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    the now unlisted vanilla is better than the directors cut, right?
    i have it in my library from 2011, i should replay that one instead right
    i loved the pis filter btw, i know they removed it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, fully patched vanilla is better.
      Runs better, more stable, looks better, less bugs.
      Only thing missing is some extra rooms in 3 boss fight areas, that were put there so non-combat builds can pick up weapons and use gimmicks to fight the bosses.
      Some of the preorder items were integrated differently in DC, and the Missing Link was crowbarred into the main game, fricking up the pacing completely. You're legitimately getting a better experience not being forced to play ML in the main game.

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played it for the first time a few months ago, and had fun. I really enjoyed the DLC as well.
    I spent a lot of time stacking boxes on top of each other to get to high areas, which was fun as hell

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker vocally sucks off a game for years
    >Why didn't you tell me this was a masterpiece?
    >Ganker vocally shits on a game for years
    >Why didn’t you warn me Ganker?
    God I hate you homosexuals so much. I know you only do this shit for replies but it’s so painfully transparent that you’re brainless parrots trying desperately to fit in.

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cuz thry mocked us in that game
    Kek
    I enjoyed good but prefer the chapters from before.. even the trashy xbox second chapter, yes.

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shit stealth game with the most superficial RPG elements
    >liberal social justice story that makes zero fricking sense in relation to real world civil rights movement
    >ends exactly like mass effect 3’s choose your own ending because your choices literally didn’t matter but this time it’s okay for reasons
    >masterpiece

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still no sequel in sight
    The only vidya I'm actually waiting for

    Although if they pull Jensen from MD is a clone of Jensen from HR twist, which they absolutely will, I'm going to start shit

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