Why do 4rries claim that 4e "fixed" genasi by mashing all the different subraces into one race with many potential manifestations?

Why do 4rries claim that 4e "fixed" genasi by mashing all the different subraces into one race with many potential manifestations? Or that deva, angels who gave up the heavens to guide and protect mortals, are better than aasimar?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because aasimar are pretty dull. The thing that makes tieflings interesting is them overcoming their fiendish heritage to be more than just evil, but there's less cachet in aasimar overcoming theirs--fallen angels are old hat. So devas at least give a different, more compelling direction to the upper-planes equivalent.
    Note that it didn't stick into 5e, so it clearly wasn't a successful experiment.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I quite liked my interpretation of the Aasimar's burden when I rolled one for Curse of Strahd. He naturally believed himself to be a higher being compared to the rest of the party, but he was not arrogant about it, rather he felt a deep personal responsibility to put himself forward into the worst of things on their behalf because he could only trust his own capability. This backfired tremendously when Strahd came to mess with the party and instead he distracted him with a 1v1 sky duel challenge that ended in tragic death and subsequent raising as a bone-winged vampiric angelman.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about success of the experiment, but a lead designer decision. And the logic was "we need to make things more like 3e, because 4e sold poorly"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, and this is perfectly sound logic. You cut off what doesn't work and keep what does

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They claim it because they're right.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based anon. At least making genasi a singular race and tying them to the Elemental Chaos, and through that to being "The Chaotic/Artistic/Passionate/Creative Race" gave them more inherent depth than just "elemental personality sterotype X: the race".

      Plus, it was neat that the ability to have multiple manifestations was actually something their culture took advantage of, like how 4e genasi would deliberately shift to a manifestation with an emotional slant that'd be more advantageous for the situation at hand.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    There wasnt a 4e general for our resident “i hate 4rries” autist to spam so he made one himself. Beyond pottery. Maybe ill make a thread saying pathfinder 2 in fact did not fix casters.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you blind or is this thread a shitty false flag because you are just that insecure?

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've literally never heard either of those claims being made before. Are you making up people to get mad at online again?

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do 4rries claim that 4e "fixed" genasi by mashing all the different subraces into one race with many potential manifestations
    Seems like a good thing honestly.
    Kinda like the Tiefling version from 2e compared to now the standardized devil-tiefling of modern editions.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      2e tiefling need to return as the norm. WOTC wanted to do it with the UA, but people for some fricking reason complained about a bucket list of "my family was fricked over by travel through the lower planes" traits. My guess is the trannies realized everyone who ran on in a test kept being more interesting than their Warcraft Draenei knockoffs despite just being a horned or tailed or off skin human.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Planescape was always a shit setting so it's easy to improve upon.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because mental moronation needs outlets and their idea of fantasy reflects the truth of their reality
    >grandson/granddaughter or beyond of some genie
    >characteristics from opposite end
    >they think they are related and not the anal abortion of cucks

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tangential, but why is the go-to insult for 4e players "4rries?" Is there a greater focus on beast races or general "freak shit" than previous editions? Or is it just a matter of furries being the least desirable group you can easily turn into a pun with the number four?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Furries are homosexuals.
      4e "players" are homosexuals.

      It's that shrimple.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        So what's your edition of choice?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Of DnD? If I absolutely have to choose, 2e or 3.X. 2e is probably better overall, but I am a genuine sucker for the massive toolbox that is 3.0+3.5+PF1+DSP.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just making sure. It's proper to feel betrayed by 4e after playing 3-3.5 that's how it was for me too.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It sort of sounds like 4e. That's it. That's all. We're talking about people who willingly continue to subject themselves to 3.5, there's no reason to expect intelligence.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        True, anyone smart wont remain to talk about the shitshow of 4e when they could actually be smart, leave and have fun with any version of 3e... or even pure pathfinder (instead of treating it as a dead rules addition splatbook with a lot of funky hybrids and pseudo prcs) if they fell down the stairs along the way.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    We already have a 4e thread.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because having 1 race with your choice of 13 feature packs that fit on a couple pages is way better than dedicating half a book to a dozen variants of the same freakshit race no one actually cares about.

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