It's a subversion of narrative cliches in order to question why the hero and the player assume that they cannot be betrayed and must be loved by the heroine of their own story instead of finding inner peace and meaning within oneself or finding love in different person. Oersted is consumed by his betrayal and falls down the path of ashura because of his resulting isolation while Byuu is supported by the connections he forms with nature and society and is able to achieve true freedom from the narrative he is composed into.
Essentially, a genuine life is not a story or a divine plan, it is simply a system or algorithm in which the possibility of life and individuality grows out of, and being neither good or bad it derives it's meaning from your own conceptions of it. Rather than seeing yourself as a hero and seeking out a power fantasy or glorious narrative, you should just be a person and do the best that you can.
It's pretty fun, here you go into a fun game that has multiple gameplay aspect and scenario to it, and finally you go into seemingly the most generic and boring one of them all, and it sike you.
It's the Mushoku Tensei of RPGs, except unlike Mushoku Tensei, it's actually fricking good and fun, not garbo.
You're not supposed to self-insert
I'm pretty sure the game take into account that you will self insert or not.
You self insert, you see a character that you probably named after yourself or someone going into the rabbit hole.
You don't self insert, you see a character that is the Hero archetype going into the rabbit hole.
>It's the Mushoku Tensei of RPGs, except unlike Mushoku Tensei, it's actually fricking good and fun, not garbo.
I guess it's cool to hate on MT now that it got the anime treatment.
I mean I guess it's NTR but Oersted and Alicia's "relationship" is so shallow and lasted literally less than a day that it doesn't register in my head as NTR. To me it's more "everyone betrayed me, I fed up with this world!" from The Room
>game's main point is playing around with a myriad of tropes >final one is primarily a subversion of the typical fairy tale/rpg story where everything goes wrong and the hero becomes the bad guy >all anyone talks about is NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR
People used to just talk about the fricking game. Most they'd go into that is just stuff like "Oersted did literally nothing wrong." Same with Bahamut Lagoon. People used to enthusiastically recommend it, now all anyone talks about is the ntr. Too many braindead coomers on the board.
Someone who realizes if this was the exact opposite way and she was the one telling everyone who he is, what he does and how he's got her blocked, you'd probably be all up in arms about it as well.
Sure, I'll let you get back to dicksucking people who resort to personal attacks over a shitty localization job instead of actually attacking the work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Attack the work not the people who vandalize said work
Literal insanity. Companies are hiring saboteurs and they're openly admitting to it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Attack the work not the people who vandalize said work
lmao couldn't have twisted my words to fit your argument any harder.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Sure, I'll let you get back to dicksucking people who resort to personal attacks over a shitty localization job instead of actually attacking the work.
You said it yourself, b***h. It's an admittance of guilt.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"The work" being the shitty job done with the localization, you bonafide moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Commits the same accusation he accuses someone else of
Yeah, you're not going to weasel your way out of this, wienersucker.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What fricking accusation? That instead of criticizing someone's work you search them out, find their twitter, broadcast it for everyone you can and then go "LOOK, SHE BLOCKED ME"?
lol, why do you care? Is that your friend?
I've heard the fricking complaints of "the evil libs will search me down and mark me for criticizing their political ideals" so many fricking times here that they're straight up tiresome, and what do I find here if not the exact fricking thing that always gets b***hed about. Hypocrites.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you gain from defending that b***h anyways? Pure contrarianism can only get you so far before you get called out on being a homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not defending that b***h, I really couldn't care less about someone who is obviously pushing her political ideals over keeping a faithful translation. I'm attacking you. For being the exact same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nyoo I have to put down the mean anon
You're not cool and based playing third position. You're simply a reactive homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And you'll never be the bigger person that's actually right and has a point, but I guess you're fine with that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Some random homosexual doesn't think I'm correct
I can live with that. Can't say the same for you though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>calls another dude "dad" >calls his actual dad "bob" or some shit >has to let his boss make cummies in a gf that was assigned to him >isn't even mega rich, has to be a bigger man's toy >literally has to submit to some fricked up old man molestation to get his wizard robes >abandons christ >abandons moses >abandons muhammad >gets invited to the blood orgy but always last in line >totally not gay to raw dog another dudes cum as long as it's a girl right >oops thats my mom this time >just like my first time
the absolute state of lodgecucks
2 years ago
Anonymous
it do be like that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hypocrites.
ah, you've been superglued to the meaningless seesaw and think yourself Diogenes with his lantern. You should probably grow out of this.
Bait OP but this guy knows what he's talking about.
You need to keep in mind that the original Live A Live and Bahamut Lagoon came very close to each other, and that Evangelion came out between them to contextualize it.
I mean I guess it's NTR but Oersted and Alicia's "relationship" is so shallow and lasted literally less than a day that it doesn't register in my head as NTR. To me it's more "everyone betrayed me, I fed up with this world!" from The Room
>game's main point is playing around with a myriad of tropes >final one is primarily a subversion of the typical fairy tale/rpg story where everything goes wrong and the hero becomes the bad guy >all anyone talks about is NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR
People used to just talk about the fricking game. Most they'd go into that is just stuff like "Oersted did literally nothing wrong." Same with Bahamut Lagoon. People used to enthusiastically recommend it, now all anyone talks about is the ntr. Too many braindead coomers on the board.
Because good chunk of Bahamut Lagoon plot revolves around the NTR, I don't think the gameplay is worth discussing, but hey Salamander is op even if it's not fast enough for her...
There is no NTR in Bahamut Lagoon, you never had a proper relationship to begin with and it all culminates in the princess being alone when her true love gets killed for being a dick. While your main character gets an implied future romance option with another party member and lives freely flying around on dragons.
This. It doesn't help that Yoyo is an obnoxious high maintenance princess.
imo, several of the other secundary females were cuter and seemed like they could form a cool pair up with Byuu. Matelite best girl, tho
>While your main character gets an implied future romance option with another party member
Who? Is it a woman at least? You're not talking about the old man, right? That was some trolling shit.
The entire process was carefully designed around the expectation that people will name the girl and boy after themselves and a girl they like. In addition the ending doesn't make sense when a dragon goes right up to Byuu and straight up says to him that she only remembers him as the boy he was.
I am so sick of everyone online be obsessed with cucks. I swear you can't have a game where the girl so much as says hello to another male without these morons chimping out.
I would say it's closer to all the other stories start with it being really cynical and the main character of that chapter regaining their idealistic faith in others. Meanwhile the medieval chapter starts out super idealistic and ends on the most cynical note possible.
one is primarily a subversion of the typical fairy tale/rpg story where everything goes wrong and the hero becomes the bad guy
Oersted didn't become the bad guy, he did nothing wrong
People used to just talk about the fricking game. Most they'd go into that is just stuff like "Oersted did literally nothing wrong." Same with Bahamut Lagoon. People used to enthusiastically recommend it, now all anyone talks about is the ntr. Too many braindead coomers on the board.
people used to recommend bahamut lagoon because they never played it
Are we sure it isn't just a Squaresoft thing? And even then with the only examples I can think of (FF7 with Hojo/Lucrecia/Vincent, Bahamut Lagoon, LaL), the guy being NTR'd never really had a chance to begin with.
That's barely anything. And in two of them, its portrayed as a completely horrific, evil thing that led to crazy antichrist shit.
The reason these plots suck and feel like NTR is because it feels like the girls lead the protagonist on and then happily ditch them for the absolutely most infuriating person possible while rubbing it on their faces and getting angry if questioned about it. What with Alethea falling for and killing herself over the fricking villain who literally got her father killed and ruined Oersted's life, or Yoyo falling for the general keeping her captive while Byuu was working to rescue her which means at any point in the game you could have made a juxtaposition of Byuu suffering over it and Yoyo just getting it on with the enemy.
FF4 is just the girl having two childhood friends who both love her but she only falls for one of them and never makes pretensions otherwise.
how many more threads are we gonna make about the 3 b***hes of squaresoft?
Because
1. that's not NTR
2. FF4 isn't a one-off Japan only title
>1. that's not NTR
He's literally kissing the woman of his dreams in front of him.
The reason these plots suck and feel like NTR is because it feels like the girls lead the protagonist on and then happily ditch them for the absolutely most infuriating person possible while rubbing it on their faces and getting angry if questioned about it. What with Alethea falling for and killing herself over the fricking villain who literally got her father killed and ruined Oersted's life, or Yoyo falling for the general keeping her captive while Byuu was working to rescue her which means at any point in the game you could have made a juxtaposition of Byuu suffering over it and Yoyo just getting it on with the enemy.
FF4 is just the girl having two childhood friends who both love her but she only falls for one of them and never makes pretensions otherwise.
Also Cecil is the player perspective, not Kain. It would be the acceptable Netori part of NTR not the coastal American Netorare part of NTR.
Considering that Straybow basically seethed in the corner quietly until he snapped and wasn't satisfied getting the princess. Yes, yes he was. Like I said its just the capstone, Strawbow takes away absolutely everything from Oersted not just the princess.
Straybow carefully orchestrating the death of the king is always what sticks out to me. Like, I guess I get that he hates Oersted, but he's getting so many other unrelated people caught up in his petty revenge plot.
Audiences always have a boner for underdog stories and a lot of people have no concept of nuance so if "low class underdog = good" then obviously "high class privileged character = bad". Even if they haven't really done anything bad personally.
Very rarely. Netorare refers to being stolen by sex so the girl is usually the one being “Netorare’d” by that usage but the designated cuck selfinsert character is usually the POV. The cuck is “Netorase”, which some only use for willing cucks (like anyone that actually willingly reads NTR) but isn’t actually limited in that way by definition. Netori is the person doing the “stealing by sex”, but despite what most cucks claim most of the NTR cliche shit people rail against is clearly for cuck selfinserters.
However, at the core you are still mistaken, because “NTR” technically stands for all three of Netorare, Netorase and Netori. You notice that all three contain the “N T R” letters. The difference between NTR and just cheating stories is that NTR by definition focuses on the “stealing” aspect where it isn’t the act of sex itself but rather the destruction, loss and depriving of another. It is pretty fricking gay.
>Wait, so why doesn't the cuck just get fricked by the bull and cut the girl out of it if she's not really the focus?
He is spiritually and metaphorically being fricked by the bull.
2 years ago
Anonymous
isn't it tragic for the bull to still be metaphysically restrained by the material bondage of the vegana then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>isn't it tragic for the bull to still be metaphysically restrained by the material bondage of the vegana then?
No, this way he's fricking two people at once.
All of them are shit. >Netorare
You want to get cucked that bad? Pathetic. >Netorase
Wow, you aren't even going to pretend you don't want this. Zero dignity. >Netori
Not only is chasing after another man's girl scummy, you're desperate to get her during the relationship so that the whiff of the other dude's dick still hasn't left her vegana. >B-b-but I don't self-insert!
First of all, I doubt that. Second in case you really, really don't, you're still looking at the immense market there is for porn of a myriad genres and fetishes, and you're saying "Yes, the only way I can get off is if there's a guy crying in the corner while the action is happening".
It's a shit fetish no matter which way you spin it.
ah but you see anon, the person wants to feel like shit because they have no self esteem
that's why bugpeople like it, they don't have to be real human beans they can just give up and be a 110 IQ NPC, neither empowered by instinct or in control of their reason
2 years ago
Anonymous
NTA, but I can see how NTR and its variations can never appeal to hyper masculine societies like Latino and Blacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're talking about cultures that netori so hard they raw dog another dude's cum without realizing it's gay anon
just because everybody is fricking everyone else's girl doesn't mean it's not ntr there just isn't a clear victim other than the children
Live A Live is a game that has 9 chapters. 7 are available originally, the 8th opens up after you finish the initial set, and the 9th is available once you beat the 8th. In the 8th chapter, you play Oersted, who wins a tournament, gets engaged to a princess, fails to keep her from being kidnapped by demons, gathers up a party to fight the demon king, loses his mentor after killing the demon king, loses his best friend as they escape the demon king castle, is caught in an illusion and tricked into killing the king, loses his last remaining ally breaking out of prison, forces his way back into the demon castle, I think he slaughters his way out of the castle-town, [spoiler]finds out his best friend faked his death and has been orchestrating all of this, fights and kills his former best friend, finds out the princess was in the dark the whole time, she thought the best friend was the only person looking for her, had fallen in love with the best friend, commits suicide while cursing your name, and then Oersted turns himself into the new, true Demon King who spreads his hate through all of time and space, causing the rest of the game to happen, including both the previous chapters, and the final chapter where the heroes from the first 7 chapters team up to put an end to him once and for all.[/spoiler]
Or something like that.
Man the shifu chapter is so disappointing. Thematically picking up three disicples but then just spending the whole time training only one of them feels like shit
Cause I seriously can't even tell which one of you is the troony and which one is the doughy fuccboi but it seems like you're both getting a little bit hard and one of you should drop a disc link or something
>I hear the remake added some dumb new ending where you can save him or something though.
Thankfully not, you get a new boss fight but the ending itself still plays out like before: Oersted realizes his mistakes and dies
It's proto-Chrono Trigger in a way that it has similar settings and ideas. It's completely different game otherwise and doesn't really compare to Chrono Trigger.
short: Wild West, Present
medium: Prehistory, Imperial China
a little longer: Edo Japan, Near Future, Distant Future (Near and Distant future are most plot heavy chapters)
none are all that long though, all less than 3 hours
It's a subversion of narrative cliches in order to question why the hero and the player assume that they cannot be betrayed and must be loved by the heroine of their own story instead of finding inner peace and meaning within oneself or finding love in different person. Oersted is consumed by his betrayal and falls down the path of ashura because of his resulting isolation while Byuu is supported by the connections he forms with nature and society and is able to achieve true freedom from the narrative he is composed into.
Essentially, a genuine life is not a story or a divine plan, it is simply a system or algorithm in which the possibility of life and individuality grows out of, and being neither good or bad it derives it's meaning from your own conceptions of it. Rather than seeing yourself as a hero and seeking out a power fantasy or glorious narrative, you should just be a person and do the best that you can.
It's pretty fun, here you go into a fun game that has multiple gameplay aspect and scenario to it, and finally you go into seemingly the most generic and boring one of them all, and it sike you.
It's the Mushoku Tensei of RPGs, except unlike Mushoku Tensei, it's actually fricking good and fun, not garbo.
I'm pretty sure the game take into account that you will self insert or not.
You self insert, you see a character that you probably named after yourself or someone going into the rabbit hole.
You don't self insert, you see a character that is the Hero archetype going into the rabbit hole.
>It's the Mushoku Tensei of RPGs, except unlike Mushoku Tensei, it's actually fricking good and fun, not garbo.
I guess it's cool to hate on MT now that it got the anime treatment.
Get on my level scrub, I knew MT before it was cool, and saw it as the shit it was.
Okay, no one's going to suck your dick admitting that.
Suck it. Now.
Play the original fan translation.
This is the same company that established a feminist department didn't it?
>grrr how dare they make sound business decisions
I wonder why you're so upset
>Play the original fan translation.
it's also censored
>has her Tweets in Protected Mode but also has me Blocked.
And? Everyone has a right to privacy.
Who could be behind these?
Someone who realizes if this was the exact opposite way and she was the one telling everyone who he is, what he does and how he's got her blocked, you'd probably be all up in arms about it as well.
Okay, dicksucker you can stop now.
Sure, I'll let you get back to dicksucking people who resort to personal attacks over a shitty localization job instead of actually attacking the work.
>Attack the work not the people who vandalize said work
Literal insanity. Companies are hiring saboteurs and they're openly admitting to it.
>Attack the work not the people who vandalize said work
lmao couldn't have twisted my words to fit your argument any harder.
>Sure, I'll let you get back to dicksucking people who resort to personal attacks over a shitty localization job instead of actually attacking the work.
You said it yourself, b***h. It's an admittance of guilt.
"The work" being the shitty job done with the localization, you bonafide moron.
>Commits the same accusation he accuses someone else of
Yeah, you're not going to weasel your way out of this, wienersucker.
What fricking accusation? That instead of criticizing someone's work you search them out, find their twitter, broadcast it for everyone you can and then go "LOOK, SHE BLOCKED ME"?
I've heard the fricking complaints of "the evil libs will search me down and mark me for criticizing their political ideals" so many fricking times here that they're straight up tiresome, and what do I find here if not the exact fricking thing that always gets b***hed about. Hypocrites.
What do you gain from defending that b***h anyways? Pure contrarianism can only get you so far before you get called out on being a homosexual.
I'm not defending that b***h, I really couldn't care less about someone who is obviously pushing her political ideals over keeping a faithful translation. I'm attacking you. For being the exact same.
>Nyoo I have to put down the mean anon
You're not cool and based playing third position. You're simply a reactive homosexual.
And you'll never be the bigger person that's actually right and has a point, but I guess you're fine with that.
>Some random homosexual doesn't think I'm correct
I can live with that. Can't say the same for you though.
>calls another dude "dad"
>calls his actual dad "bob" or some shit
>has to let his boss make cummies in a gf that was assigned to him
>isn't even mega rich, has to be a bigger man's toy
>literally has to submit to some fricked up old man molestation to get his wizard robes
>abandons christ
>abandons moses
>abandons muhammad
>gets invited to the blood orgy but always last in line
>totally not gay to raw dog another dudes cum as long as it's a girl right
>oops thats my mom this time
>just like my first time
the absolute state of lodgecucks
it do be like that
>Hypocrites.
ah, you've been superglued to the meaningless seesaw and think yourself Diogenes with his lantern. You should probably grow out of this.
I'm actually the type of person who can just ignore public opinion when it's advantageous
lol, why do you care? Is that your friend?
I played both because I love Live-a-Live.
>she has even ME, a completely random person, blocked
The absolute gall of that b***h, how could she? You can't just block someone.
Bait OP but this guy knows what he's talking about.
You need to keep in mind that the original Live A Live and Bahamut Lagoon came very close to each other, and that Evangelion came out between them to contextualize it.
I mean I guess it's NTR but Oersted and Alicia's "relationship" is so shallow and lasted literally less than a day that it doesn't register in my head as NTR. To me it's more "everyone betrayed me, I fed up with this world!" from The Room
>game's main point is playing around with a myriad of tropes
>final one is primarily a subversion of the typical fairy tale/rpg story where everything goes wrong and the hero becomes the bad guy
>all anyone talks about is NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR NTR
but anon don't you understand I control the character with the controller so they are literally me in real life!
People used to just talk about the fricking game. Most they'd go into that is just stuff like "Oersted did literally nothing wrong." Same with Bahamut Lagoon. People used to enthusiastically recommend it, now all anyone talks about is the ntr. Too many braindead coomers on the board.
Because good chunk of Bahamut Lagoon plot revolves around the NTR, I don't think the gameplay is worth discussing, but hey Salamander is op even if it's not fast enough for her...
There is no NTR in Bahamut Lagoon, you never had a proper relationship to begin with and it all culminates in the princess being alone when her true love gets killed for being a dick. While your main character gets an implied future romance option with another party member and lives freely flying around on dragons.
The people who chimp at BL probably didn't play that either.
This. It doesn't help that Yoyo is an obnoxious high maintenance princess.
imo, several of the other secundary females were cuter and seemed like they could form a cool pair up with Byuu. Matelite best girl, tho
You mean frederica or Mist isn't it?
>While your main character gets an implied future romance option with another party member
Who? Is it a woman at least? You're not talking about the old man, right? That was some trolling shit.
One of the fencer girls has a crush on Byuu iirc
She's also the only other member of the army that Yoyo doesn't frick
The entire process was carefully designed around the expectation that people will name the girl and boy after themselves and a girl they like. In addition the ending doesn't make sense when a dragon goes right up to Byuu and straight up says to him that she only remembers him as the boy he was.
I am so sick of everyone online be obsessed with cucks. I swear you can't have a game where the girl so much as says hello to another male without these morons chimping out.
>coomers
Sorry but people just understand the cultural origins of these games a lot better than they used.
I would say it's closer to all the other stories start with it being really cynical and the main character of that chapter regaining their idealistic faith in others. Meanwhile the medieval chapter starts out super idealistic and ends on the most cynical note possible.
Is the same with Bahamut lagoon, people don't understand they are having fun with fantasy cliches
one is primarily a subversion of the typical fairy tale/rpg story where everything goes wrong and the hero becomes the bad guy
Oersted didn't become the bad guy, he did nothing wrong
people used to recommend bahamut lagoon because they never played it
can you learn Seize from the sumo guy in Masaru's chapter?
No, but he does have Masaru's final move. Good luck figuring out how to make him use it without a guide though.
Just armlock him and have full HP, easy.
It's a shit move anyway. I got it and never hit anything with it for the entire rest of the game.
Just ordered this, looking forward to trying it out when it arrives. It better not disappoint, anons.
At worse, you lose a day of your time. It's not a long RPG.
Are we sure it isn't just a Squaresoft thing? And even then with the only examples I can think of (FF7 with Hojo/Lucrecia/Vincent, Bahamut Lagoon, LaL), the guy being NTR'd never really had a chance to begin with.
That's barely anything. And in two of them, its portrayed as a completely horrific, evil thing that led to crazy antichrist shit.
Why does the whole thread forget about them?
because nobody plays ff4 anymore
how many more threads are we gonna make about the 3 b***hes of squaresoft?
Because
1. that's not NTR
2. FF4 isn't a one-off Japan only title
>1. that's not NTR
He's literally kissing the woman of his dreams in front of him.
The reason these plots suck and feel like NTR is because it feels like the girls lead the protagonist on and then happily ditch them for the absolutely most infuriating person possible while rubbing it on their faces and getting angry if questioned about it. What with Alethea falling for and killing herself over the fricking villain who literally got her father killed and ruined Oersted's life, or Yoyo falling for the general keeping her captive while Byuu was working to rescue her which means at any point in the game you could have made a juxtaposition of Byuu suffering over it and Yoyo just getting it on with the enemy.
FF4 is just the girl having two childhood friends who both love her but she only falls for one of them and never makes pretensions otherwise.
Also Cecil is the player perspective, not Kain. It would be the acceptable Netori part of NTR not the coastal American Netorare part of NTR.
You're not supposed to self-insert
Why does /vrpg/ shill NTR games?
cumbrains get what they fricking deserve
Oersted didn't just get NTR'd here that is just the capstone Straybow's plans.
Was Straybow wrong? He only fricked turbo elites of you think about it
Considering that Straybow basically seethed in the corner quietly until he snapped and wasn't satisfied getting the princess. Yes, yes he was. Like I said its just the capstone, Strawbow takes away absolutely everything from Oersted not just the princess.
But their society was a broken patriarchal one with class divide and probably a caste system
Not much worth responding to you.
Straybow carefully orchestrating the death of the king is always what sticks out to me. Like, I guess I get that he hates Oersted, but he's getting so many other unrelated people caught up in his petty revenge plot.
That's how unhinged the average Alicia simp is. Oersted does the same, but on a multiverse scale.
>people above you in social hierarchies aren't people
Where did this idea even come from, anyway?
Audiences always have a boner for underdog stories and a lot of people have no concept of nuance so if "low class underdog = good" then obviously "high class privileged character = bad". Even if they haven't really done anything bad personally.
if the status quo is wrong then anyone who preserves it is evil
If the status quo is wrong, illegitimately benefiting from it, such as through theft, is also wrong.
You can't fight a war on an empty stomach, b***h boy
It's the right way of thinking and if you disagree you're a bootlicker.
t. school shooter
School shooters take their problems out on ordinary human beings like you and me when they should be going after top 0.1% subhumans
guy rescuing the girl has been a staple of story telling forever, cooming has destroyed your mind.
NTR is a great story convention and offers a dose of reality to braindead coomers
If it has NTR it's automatically shit, stop defending shit
So what are the pig gaijin's most favored arcs in LaL? Are there polls for it yet?
I recruited the prisoner early. did I totally frick up the pacifist run?
Yep. You have to ignore him so the blood of a few enemies that gate your progress near the end of the castle is on his hands instead of yours.
pacifist run isn't worth it, you get better rewards by doing your job and purging the corrupt aristocracy
what the frick does NTR mean what is am NTR can you motherfrickers speak english
cringe and bluepilled
Netorare. One character, usually a male and usually a POV character, has his lover or romantic interest taken away by someone else.
the girl is the pov character in ntr
If so then Live A Live and Bahamut Lagoon aren't NTR. But I say either perspective works.
Very rarely. Netorare refers to being stolen by sex so the girl is usually the one being “Netorare’d” by that usage but the designated cuck selfinsert character is usually the POV. The cuck is “Netorase”, which some only use for willing cucks (like anyone that actually willingly reads NTR) but isn’t actually limited in that way by definition. Netori is the person doing the “stealing by sex”, but despite what most cucks claim most of the NTR cliche shit people rail against is clearly for cuck selfinserters.
However, at the core you are still mistaken, because “NTR” technically stands for all three of Netorare, Netorase and Netori. You notice that all three contain the “N T R” letters. The difference between NTR and just cheating stories is that NTR by definition focuses on the “stealing” aspect where it isn’t the act of sex itself but rather the destruction, loss and depriving of another. It is pretty fricking gay.
Dial down the disdain, NTR hater.
dial 8, ntroony
Dilate, homosexual.
Wait, so why doesn't the cuck just get fricked by the bull and cut the girl out of it if she's not really the focus?
>Wait, so why doesn't the cuck just get fricked by the bull and cut the girl out of it if she's not really the focus?
He is spiritually and metaphorically being fricked by the bull.
isn't it tragic for the bull to still be metaphysically restrained by the material bondage of the vegana then?
>isn't it tragic for the bull to still be metaphysically restrained by the material bondage of the vegana then?
No, this way he's fricking two people at once.
All of them are shit.
>Netorare
You want to get cucked that bad? Pathetic.
>Netorase
Wow, you aren't even going to pretend you don't want this. Zero dignity.
>Netori
Not only is chasing after another man's girl scummy, you're desperate to get her during the relationship so that the whiff of the other dude's dick still hasn't left her vegana.
>B-b-but I don't self-insert!
First of all, I doubt that. Second in case you really, really don't, you're still looking at the immense market there is for porn of a myriad genres and fetishes, and you're saying "Yes, the only way I can get off is if there's a guy crying in the corner while the action is happening".
It's a shit fetish no matter which way you spin it.
ah but you see anon, the person wants to feel like shit because they have no self esteem
that's why bugpeople like it, they don't have to be real human beans they can just give up and be a 110 IQ NPC, neither empowered by instinct or in control of their reason
NTA, but I can see how NTR and its variations can never appeal to hyper masculine societies like Latino and Blacks.
You're talking about cultures that netori so hard they raw dog another dude's cum without realizing it's gay anon
just because everybody is fricking everyone else's girl doesn't mean it's not ntr there just isn't a clear victim other than the children
Oh yeah I forgot Ganker doesn't talk about playing video games, only cumming to them.
>all these one-off Japan only JRPGs have NTR storylines
LAL, Bahamut Lagoon and uhhhh...
Drakengard 1 and 3, Phantasy Star IV, Fire Emblem Fates, FFVII, FFX, FFXIII…
Where is the NTR are in these games?
If only those games had releases outside Japan...
>NTR
Dare i ask what is going on?
Live A Live is a game that has 9 chapters. 7 are available originally, the 8th opens up after you finish the initial set, and the 9th is available once you beat the 8th.
In the 8th chapter, you play Oersted, who wins a tournament, gets engaged to a princess, fails to keep her from being kidnapped by demons, gathers up a party to fight the demon king, loses his mentor after killing the demon king, loses his best friend as they escape the demon king castle, is caught in an illusion and tricked into killing the king, loses his last remaining ally breaking out of prison, forces his way back into the demon castle, I think he slaughters his way out of the castle-town, [spoiler]finds out his best friend faked his death and has been orchestrating all of this, fights and kills his former best friend, finds out the princess was in the dark the whole time, she thought the best friend was the only person looking for her, had fallen in love with the best friend, commits suicide while cursing your name, and then Oersted turns himself into the new, true Demon King who spreads his hate through all of time and space, causing the rest of the game to happen, including both the previous chapters, and the final chapter where the heroes from the first 7 chapters team up to put an end to him once and for all.[/spoiler]
Or something like that.
see this
Did sugita love this game as a young man or something? Hes all over the place as minor characters
Where Nakamura goes, his bff follows
Man the shifu chapter is so disappointing. Thematically picking up three disicples but then just spending the whole time training only one of them feels like shit
It would've been cliche if they all lived and Live A Live ain't all about that.
They still could had done it a better way.
No, not really.
>It would've been cliche if they all lived and Live A Live ain't all about that.
homie the entire game is homages and cliches
Except for a third of the game
Cause I seriously can't even tell which one of you is the troony and which one is the doughy fuccboi but it seems like you're both getting a little bit hard and one of you should drop a disc link or something
Real talk, the frick could Oersted possibly have done?
Nothing, that’s the entire point of tragic heroes
He could've done something good without expecting anything in return, which is what a real hero does.
He's not a hero. He is a human being, with flaws and all.
Yeah, it's great. I hear the remake added some dumb new ending where you can save him or something though.
>I hear the remake added some dumb new ending where you can save him or something though.
Thankfully not, you get a new boss fight but the ending itself still plays out like before: Oersted realizes his mistakes and dies
There's a difference between "without expecting anything in return" and "actively getting fricked over and singled out for just doing his best".
Go to faraway island after killing every lucretians
project harder americuck
i can't get the Buriki Daioh theme song out of my head. BABIRONIA
Cucks are a major audience in Japan. I don't understand it either, but there it is.
Isn't this just Chrono Trigger, but done better?
It's proto-Chrono Trigger in a way that it has similar settings and ideas. It's completely different game otherwise and doesn't really compare to Chrono Trigger.
Which chapters are short and good for an evening after work playthrough and which are longer better for a full weekend day playthrough?
short: Wild West, Present
medium: Prehistory, Imperial China
a little longer: Edo Japan, Near Future, Distant Future (Near and Distant future are most plot heavy chapters)
none are all that long though, all less than 3 hours
Did Ganker finally run you off so you made your stupid thread here?
NTR is the thinking man's character development
NTR is bad for the soul.