then again, I never played, but I trust my brethren.
Majora's Mask is the same mid shit. all these 3d Mario platformers are the same at the end of the day.
I have the same opinion, 1 was a masterpiece even with its flaws. ME2 is complete fricking garbage. I recently bought the steam version to play through, but I can't even force myself to finish ME2 a second time, just pure suffering to have to play that shit.
2? What are you talking about anon, BioWare never made any Mass Effect sequels after EA bought them out. We're forever stuck with the only entry and left wondering what Shepard would do in the sequels.
I'm playing through the trilogy on Steam after not touching since the release of 3. My opinions on 3 has really mellowed since then. The first game is the best and I don't I think it's the one that has aged the best. 2 is the worst one of the three and playing it now has made all its flaws apparent. In contrast, I find myself liking 3 more than I did at the time of release
They add more shit to the ending so that it wasn't just an RGB trinary choice. Also, in my opinion, 3 is worth it just for the Citadel DLC. it's unironically my favorite DLC of any game. Every single cheesy moment like clone Shep, Traynor's toothbrush, and Tali singing brought a huge smile to my face. Especially worthwhile if you keep everyone in your squad alive to the end.
It's a great space opera that blows 95% of TV shows out of the water.
It also has more than decent gameplay to boot.
Not hard to see why it's so succesful.
>we want the call of duty audience >if you press a button, something awesome has to happen >hamburger helper
Yeah man bioslop is such an awesome studio
>LE SLOP!! LE SLOP!! LE SLOPPITY SLOPPY SLOP!! I LOVE THE SLOPPY POOPA!! SLOPPY POOPA!?? YES I LOVE TO SLOP UP THE SLOPPITY POOPA INTO MY MOUTH!! POOPA SLOPPING IN MY MOUTH!!! YES THE SLOPPY POOPA!!
My first playthrough, I thought 1 was okay, and thought 2 and 3 were great
After playing through the Legendary Edition, I thought 1 was the best gameplay wise. I couldn't even tell you what they changed in 1 to make it better in LE
I did prefer the relationships in 2 and 3
First time I played the game for a few hours on Xbox (original release), I hated it and thought it was trash. Returned it.
Something about it nagged in the back of my brain though
Eventually it came out on PC. I got it again. Became my favorite series for several years.
Just rolled credits and heard this song again last week. First time was 10 years ago, and no ending song hits as hard.
Only other song that resonated nearly as much was still alive at the end of mirror's edge 1.
i still dont understand why bioware turned shepard into space jesus in me2 and went full anime with the final bossfight
how you go from saren in me1 as your antagonist to "assuming control" in me2 and "space weeb ninja" in me3 is also beyond me
Karpyshin was a writer for 1, was a co-writer with some homosexual for 2 and was not in 3 at all.
Anyway, ME1 is good as space exploration military detective, ME2 is good at worldbuilding, characters and atmosphere. Your companions in 2, T'Loak and TIM are way better, than majority of 1 and 3 characters. ME3 has only Clone DLC and T'Loak DLC made relatively good and only if you go full renegade. And clone DLC is "mostly for laughs" spin-off.
i didnt care for the characters in me2
they all boiled down to "i have no motivation in life, im just a hired dog with daddy/familial issues"
the exceptions were ironically garrus and n7
>no motivation in life
Thane actively dies from illness, so his motivation is to ensure a future for his son. Jack is going for revenge against Cerberus, Grunt is in search of himself, Mordin tries to solve his guilt problem, Samara tries to fix problems she considers to be her personal responsibility, Legion explores interaction with humans. What "no motivation" pish posh are you trying to sell me? Has everybody to have a goal to be the Pirate Hokage?
>i have a clear motivation in life >that is why i will abandon my motivation, go with some human on a completely unrelated quest and never aim to resolve my goal until this human comes and talks to me a few dozen times and we become friends
yes, that is called no motivation, anon >his son >cerberus who raised jack, ie surrogate parent >grunt is looking for his surrogate dad >mordin feels bad for not allowing others to have a family >samsara has daughter issue
like i said, n7 and garrus had at least interesting plotlines and them joining you on your adventure was well motivated, plus going on a side adventure with them again was well motivated
the rest were just tacked on, but so was the entire story of me2 on to the looming dread of the reapers that we left me1 with
>i have a clear motivation in life >that is why i will abandon my motivation, go with some human on a completely unrelated quest and never aim to resolve my goal until this human comes and talks to me a few dozen times and we become friends
yes, that is called no motivation, anon >his son >cerberus who raised jack, ie surrogate parent >grunt is looking for his surrogate dad >mordin feels bad for not allowing others to have a family >samsara has daughter issue
like i said, n7 and garrus had at least interesting plotlines and them joining you on your adventure was well motivated, plus going on a side adventure with them again was well motivated
the rest were just tacked on, but so was the entire story of me2 on to the looming dread of the reapers that we left me1 with
>n7
Who the frick are you talking about, moron? Shepard?
2 was an overall weak game but i really liked the atmosphere of the opening hours, it left a very strong impression after you were this high and mighty soldier in the first game
>game is easier >he says, defending the game where you can literally just become unkillable with a gun that never overheats
lol >ammo now exists on energy weapons
Yeah? Having better gunplay is important for gameplay.
The gunplay in ME1 was utter dogshit. >all the gear for resistance is gone and further simplified
Like it ever mattered in ME1 either.
You just get the DR and Shield upgrades and you become unkillable. >Mako removed
Good change.
Mako parts where a fricking drag in ME1. Driving across poorly made worlds wasn't fun.
The scanning shit in ME2 isn't stellar, but it's easy to cheat out. >game cramped down into smaller spaces because exploring bad
Right, really amazing exploration in ME1: >land on planet >drive 2 minutes through nothing to get to a PoI >get out >do a fricking minigame to get some resources (that you can't even use for anything other than credits) >repeat 6-7 times
wow
amazing
>better gameplay
nope, everything got simplified to "remove enemy barrier, shield, health bar" >better world
what world? a bunch of chest-high wall shooting corridors? compare that to the half dozen worlds we got to visit in me1 with distinct towns, cultures, architectural design, and in general a vision of a grand universe outside the scope of your mission
and dont get me started on cerberus going from a fringe underground organisation in the first game to being the ultimate and biggest organisation in the world functioning as a shadow organisation behind EVERYTHING MUHAHAHAHAHA >better normandy
frick right off
>everything got simplified to "remove enemy barrier, shield, health bar"
Literally how it was in ME1 >a bunch of chest-high wall shooting corridors?
You mean like in ME1? Where everything looks like the exact same prefabs? >with distinct towns
literally which ones
Feros?
I'll take Omega and Illium any day of the week. >and in general a vision of a grand universe outside the scope of your mission
Which ME2 does a wayyyy better job at showing.
>better gameplay
nope, everything got simplified to "remove enemy barrier, shield, health bar" >better world
what world? a bunch of chest-high wall shooting corridors? compare that to the half dozen worlds we got to visit in me1 with distinct towns, cultures, architectural design, and in general a vision of a grand universe outside the scope of your mission
and dont get me started on cerberus going from a fringe underground organisation in the first game to being the ultimate and biggest organisation in the world functioning as a shadow organisation behind EVERYTHING MUHAHAHAHAHA >better normandy
frick right off
>what the frick do you want Sovereign >"your mom lol, primitive creatures we2deep4you" >who created you >"me no endor start I wuz Alpha and Omega snd shit"
riveting
>My motives…are too smart for you to understand. >You’re nothing to me, that’s why I’m taking the time to personally call you a dummy.
Garbage writing. It’s JJ Abrams mystery box shit where you can tell the writers had no plan in mind yet so they just made Sovereign say some vague nonsense.
>what the frick do you want Sovereign >"your mom lol, primitive creatures we2deep4you" >who created you >"me no endor start I wuz Alpha and Omega snd shit"
riveting
Looks like writing of Sovereign was too deep for you, anons. You literally can't comprehend him.
>we are robots who kill organics so that they aren't killed by robots
Wow you're right, Sovereign and his fellow Reapers are incomprehensible. I can't comprehend this plan at all.
>Harbinger: Human, you've changed nothing. >Harbinger: Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater. >Harbinger: That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction. >Harbinger: You will surrender your potential against the growing void. We return, and you will rise.
>everybody has to be basic Black person from Grove Street with simple motivation
Anon, you have shit taste.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But their motivation is simple. Just harvest all sentient organics every 500,000 years so they won’t be completely erased by their own A.I. creations. >b-but they didn’t think of that until 3!
Okay, so the writers had zero motivation in mind when they wrote Sovereign’s speech which is still moronic and a sign of the bad planning that would haunt this series.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Somewhere out there is the document about early concept of Reapers each being a supermind of a race rather than another flying squidward drone with some of them going insane for some reason, but it was scrapped after Karpyshin's removal. You are talking about things you know nothing about.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Got a source for that? Karpyshyn’s plan was the dark energy idea but he didn’t think of that until he started writing 2.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Seen in one of me threads here about a year ago or so.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Like just someone mentioning it with no proof?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Like someone posting a document.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well unless you can actually find this document it sounds like bullshit to me.
The Reapers being “superminds” isn’t even a motivation it’s just an explanation of what they are.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Go find it yourself. Unless, of course, you are here not to understand, how it would have been, but just to b***h about things.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>go find my proof for me it’s real trust me
kek
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you are here to b***h about things you don't want to know about. Understandable. I've seen this document, you didn't.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I saw a document proving that there was originally going to be a threesome romance option with Liara and Tali.
You want to see it? Uh…find it yourself. It’s out there somewhere. If you don’t want to find it you must not care about the truth.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You are the one who has started whining about "no motivation".
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you reply with your own little fanfiction and start seething when I ask you for a source?
>both suck >sovereign considers you insignificant >harbringer already considers you a big deal
Look at the figucking dialogue
>barely any buildup >music from ME1 pops up, to remind you this is somehow significant >Reaper is personal with you
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It's a bad joke when you compare the two
>buildup >dialogue >followup >Rudimentary cteatures of blood and flesh, you toch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
You have to really have no taste to consider Harbringer dialogue good. I was specifically playing ME2 for the reaper contact and I got this shit.
>game is easier >he says, defending the game where you can literally just become unkillable with a gun that never overheats
lol >ammo now exists on energy weapons
Yeah? Having better gunplay is important for gameplay.
The gunplay in ME1 was utter dogshit. >all the gear for resistance is gone and further simplified
Like it ever mattered in ME1 either.
You just get the DR and Shield upgrades and you become unkillable. >Mako removed
Good change.
Mako parts where a fricking drag in ME1. Driving across poorly made worlds wasn't fun.
The scanning shit in ME2 isn't stellar, but it's easy to cheat out. >game cramped down into smaller spaces because exploring bad
Right, really amazing exploration in ME1: >land on planet >drive 2 minutes through nothing to get to a PoI >get out >do a fricking minigame to get some resources (that you can't even use for anything other than credits) >repeat 6-7 times
wow
amazing
[...] >everything got simplified to "remove enemy barrier, shield, health bar"
Literally how it was in ME1 >a bunch of chest-high wall shooting corridors?
You mean like in ME1? Where everything looks like the exact same prefabs? >with distinct towns
literally which ones
Feros?
I'll take Omega and Illium any day of the week. >and in general a vision of a grand universe outside the scope of your mission
Which ME2 does a wayyyy better job at showing.
>Yeah? Having better gunplay is important for gameplay.
Standard shooter in space does not make a good sci-fi game. >The scanning shit in ME2 isn't stellar, but it's easy to cheat out.
look at your arguments. You consider the scanning a chore. >Like it ever mattered in ME1 either.
It did. It made toxic/posion levels piss easy even with Tali. It gave meaning to gear base on planet you are on.
Past 2 none of that matters.It becomes generic as frick.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Standard shooter in space does not make a good sci-fi game.
And whatever ME1 was doing wasn't making a good game either. >You consider the scanning a chore.
And I consider driving around annoying maps, having to climb up mountains in the Mako to be fricking annoying as well.
Your point?
In ME2 it's a lot easier to ignore the chores than it is in ME1. >It gave meaning to gear base on planet you are on.
No, it didn't.
Even on Nightmare that shit never mattered.
You wanted DR and shields, that's literally it.
Wasting your upgrade slots on shit like poison resistance was fricking moronic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it didn't matter >Tali dies due to toxins due to negative poison/toxin ressisstance shields or not, unless you equip the proper gear >why do game options matter
It's like you want the most cookie-cutter game and don't give a shit about anything sci-fi or gameplay at all.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>and don't give a shit about anything sci-fi or gameplay at all.
I didn't give a shit about the shit gameplay in 1.
It's literally just using shield recharge, or immunity.
The combat is literally so fricking bad that most of the time, in pinnacle station, if you're playing on the survive mode, you HAVE to let the enemy kill you otherwise you can just continue forever, because you can easily become THAT unkillable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>sovereign considers you insignificant
Then why is he bothering to have a conversation at all? It serves him no purpose. Would you try talking to an ant if you caught one in your house? >Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
You’re mistaking above average vocabulary for good writing. If you boil down what he’s actually saying it’s just >Stupid monkey, what are you doing here, moron? I’m so much smarter and better than you are, stupid. You can’t stop me.
ME1gays seriously praise this as good writing just because it’s dressed up in fancier words.
And I’m not saying Harbinger is good either. None of the Reapers should have spoken at all.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You’re mistaking above average vocabulary for good writing.
Funny, because ME2 doesn't even have that. It's just behind in every aspect , but the visual.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>criticize ME1 >b-but ME2!
Every fricking time. You’re just like Dark Souls 2 gays that always try deflecting to 3.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>describe demonstrably how it was the best the series has been >BUT WHY ARE YOU COMPARING IT TO THE WORSE INTERATIONS
I was arguing with a ME2 gay, in case you didn't notice.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>”My motivations are too smart and mysterious for you to understand” was peak Mass Effect writing
Grim.
3 months ago
Anonymous
At least he won't be remembered as the worm thing that says *assuming direct control* 10 000 times during the missions
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the worm thing that says *assuming direct control*
best character in all bioware games.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Again, I don’t like Harbinger either. Are you autistic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
For the average series that the entirety of ME was, the contact with Sovereign was well written.
You can argue it's not top sci-fi to begin with, but this was the best the series ever got.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I disagree. The best part of Mass Effect’s writing is the character interactions, not some evil space squid trying too hard to be vague.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That is the issue though.
ME1 aimed at sci-fi
ME2-3 went hard on beomg waifu/gayfu simulator and that hurt the sci-fi part
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not really. Adding more romance options doesn’t change the fact that 2 and 3’s squadmates were way more developed and interesting. Give me Mordin or Legion over boring headache man any day. The returning squadmates are also done better except maybe for Ashley.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It directs the writing staff to write characters more than setting.
It devalues the actual plot in favor of: MUH WAIFU
3 months ago
Anonymous
But that’s not true at all. You spent a small fraction of your time doing romance shit, it’s just a handful of conversations for each other character. 2 still had some great worldbuilding with how much it developed krogan, salarian, quarian, and geth cultures and showing the darker side of the galaxy with places like Omega and Illium.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It grew over time. Not in a good way.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How? You’re acting like 1% of the game is the entire thing. I don’t know why romance OPTIONS make you this mad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
What you claim is 1% eventually evolved into really fricking cringe singing and in 3/Andromeda - entire song sequences.
The focus on character development was just too much compared to the setting. That is what attracted subpar writers like hamburger helper on the project to begin with.
From a sci-fi setting to a drama setting. Slowly but steadily.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>1 cringe scene in a DLC means all romance options are bad
And again it’s all completely optional. You can play gigachad volcel Shepard and ignore it all if you want. Do you feel like you’re missing out on content or something?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you have to put in effort to avoid content in the game to experience a meaningful playthrough
I feel like the game is just not made for sci-fi fans anymore and pull back from the series as the tumblr fanbase swarmed in.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>not clicking the obvious “let’s frick” option takes effort
Are you just shitposting? I really hope you are.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How am I shitposting ? The series demonstrably declines in terms of setting.
Horrible writers are brought in to write subpar dialogues, songs and love interest routes. Even shitty books pop up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Even in 3 the romance stuff is less than an hour of dialogue combined for every character. This incel rage you have is so confusing to me. Romance options have zero impact on the main plot.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not sure how many times it has to be said, it is not just the romance, but the excessive focus on characters, rather than setting.
Sci-fi is not interesting because I get to know how Tali fights her father or what dumb drama some character had with their family.
Sci-fi is interesting when it explores alien things and ideas.
>muh incel rage
Think whatever you want. Just never become a writer.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But they’re still sci-fi stories. Yes Tali’s loyalty mission is partly about her father, but it also introduces you to The Migrant Fleet for the first time and shows the player how quarian culture works first hand instead of just hearing it from Tali or reading it in a codex. It also establishes the different admirals and their own perspectives on how to deal with the geth, with Gerrel wanting war, Xen wanting to retake control, and Korris wanting to forget them and settle a new world. All of this is important set up for ME3.
You have so much tunnel vision for hating characters that you miss the bigger picture. >Just never become a writer.
Right back at you. Your stories would have every character act like an autistic robot.
The appeal of Mass Effect, just like its inspiration Star Trek, was having both interesting sci-fi and a likable cast of characters.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You have so much tunnel vision for hating characters that you miss the bigger picture.
That is literally you.
>The appeal of Mass Effect, just like its inspiration Star Trek, was having both interesting sci-fi and a likable cast of characters.
Except Star Trek tries actual exploration or at least used to, while ME2 drops any attempts at that.
You are the type of normie that disregards science fiction classics, because they lack enough interpersonal drama and everything you touch boils down to a sitcom episode.
Your kind is the worst.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no u
All you do is exaggerate and say having interesting characters is bad because…it just is, okay!
Eat my shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
All you do is promote the worst decisions in a failed series.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The worst decision was bringing back the Reapers after 1.
3 months ago
Anonymous
another normie take
Go enjoy the citadel musicals for all I care. Surely that brings flavor to your space drama.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry I’m not a fan of evil robot squids like you are.
The only thing ME2 had over the first were the crew minus Jacob, the weapons in the first game were actually different and useful. As a matter of fact for weapons, ME1>ME3>ME2
Game 1 was a sci-fi with decent RPG elements
Game 2 devolved into drama
Game 3 was arse
Anything that followed was ass too
Honsetly few people actually liked it. I found one guy who thought ME invented the concept of AI rebelling against its creators.
So in a way, it was an entry point into basic sci-fi concepts for people who don't read books.
It was never some amazing setting. ME1 was just average. Everything else falls below average.
It always had the taint of Bioware and ugly women. The beautiful Asari, that make you think they look the best for your species look like this. But in game 1 there were ideas.
Does mid mean mediocre or bad?
I thought it meant 'middling', so mediocre or so-so. Which is actually pretty above average for an action RPG.
But I also hear zoomers literally using it in direct opposition to 'good' as if it means 'bad'.
The only sci-fi from here on out will be dystopian ones because people no longer have hope for a better future. Basically 99% of comfy escapism is fantasy at this point, as people intuitively understand that more technology = less freedom.
>younger me >friend comes over >yo, you have to check this game out, you can frick a hot alien girl and its animated
You do not understand how groundbreaking this was. Also evil morality choices for my edgy phase
I like the concept of Mass Effect more than the actual ME games. The idea of a tpp shooter with some rpg features in a space opera setting is very appealing to me and unfortunately ME is the only game that does it.
starfield - bethesda open world copypaste, setting isn't interesting. Conceptually it is cool but execution is extremely far from what i want.
outer worlds - reddit quirkfest (mass effect has this too I guess but outer worlds has this as a defining feature)
>starfield >Space Opera with no fricking aliens
Whether or not the game was good, it could never fill the hole left behind by Mass Effect, and I don't think you understand what role ME had as a game.
Only the first Mass Effect is good. ME2 is really just a guilty pleasure, it doesn't hold up in terms of writing compared to the first, its plot does not advance the reaper story in anyway. It just exists to have ideas that sound good in a hollywood writers room. >whoa, SHEPARD DIES IN THIS?? >the normandy gets destroyed 🙁 >omg, you JOIN CERBERUS? >"we're putting together a crew..."
Even the gameplay is worse in 2 than in the first, it has much less depth and only looks better visually. ME2 is shlocky, thats why people play it. It doesn't have any moments like with Vigil in 1, or meeting Sovereign on Virmire. Its incredibly easy to have everyone survive in the "suicide mission" which again, the collectors and their base have little to no bearing on the overall plot of the reaper invasion. Then, building on ME2, ME3 falls to complete shit and isn't even worth mentioning.
It is. Every single class has less skills, shield boost is gone, immunity is gone, the universal shared cooldown prevents any cool combos you can do (now you have to combo with squadmates exclusively, who also have 10 less skills then they did in previous games). But DUDE! We have BIOTIC CHARGE! And a COLLECTOR LASER BEAM! EPIC! Grow up
>shield boost is gone, immunity is gone >the two most broken abilities that completely trivialize the combat are gone
oh no >We have BIOTIC CHARGE!
Yup, more fun to use than any of the biotic powers in 1.
Actually lifting a whole group of 6 guys, then using singularity on them, then using warp, then using throw, and following up with a grenade is way cooler than using charge. And you can do all of the things I said in 7 seconds without waiting for a universal cooldown. Oh yeah and grenades got removed in ME2 because its for casuals like you.
Mass effect has AoE and homing powers. You didn't win anything you dyslexic woman
You really have no response to how braindead skill spam is compared to gunplay huh? Concession accepted
3 months ago
Anonymous
Mass effect doesn't have good gunplay. Not any of them. You seriously need to play more games. Its funny how you think having access to a variety of skills in sequence that have long cooldowns, sometimes 30 seconds long, so they cant be spammed, is somehow more braindead than ME2s gameplay. What a joke. Just say ME2 was your first game.
>Oh yeah and grenades got removed in ME2 because its for casuals like you.
No, they probably removed them because they were and incredibly superfluous gameplay addition that most people didn't use. Why?
Because there was no need for it.
Because the gameplay is so easy, you can easily become OP as frick and kill all the people you mentioned even faster by just shooting them with a fricking gun.
Just face it, ME2 did biotic powers far, far better than ME1 by making them actually useful rather than just a pretty "wow look at the colors as I take even longer to kill enemies for no reason other than to justify my class pick."
Grenades added variety. You could different mods on it that gave it different effects. Mods and add-ons, yet another casualty of ME2's attempt to reach "broader audiences".
>"wow look at the colors as I take even longer to kill enemies for no reason other than to justify my class pick."
This isn't an argument. Its more fitting to say this when talking about ME2, which is the one that opts for more visual flair than having actual variety in your powers. You really are it's target audience - a casual who wants less mechanics and a dumbed down system.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Grenades added variety.
So?
There was no reason to use them when:
a) they're a limited resource that isn't all that accurate
b) your gun has unlimited ammo that does way more damage and is pin point accurate >You could different mods on it that gave it different effects.
More superfluous shit. >Mods and add-ons, yet another casualty of ME2's attempt to reach "broader audiences".
No, it's BioWare seeing just how fricking boring and dull the combat gets once you just get a couple of damage reducing, shield improving mods for your armor and some damage increase and cooldown reduction mods for your gun. >which is the one that opts for more visual flair than having actual variety in your powers
No.
Having shit like biotic charge is better than whatever was going on in 1.
Having better damage options like shockwave also makes it better to use them, not only for the fact that you only have limited ammo, so there is a reason to use your powers as much as possible. >You really are it's target audience - a casual who wants less mechanics and a dumbed down system.
And you really think you are any better, pretending that ME1 isn't casual as frick.
Actually insane.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So?
Yeah, I figured variety and options wouldn't matter to a casual who just wants to run from point A to point B without a thought like in Skyrim. >a) limited and not accurate
Limited is good, not accurate is a skill issue on your part. Then regarding your b) point, guns are less spammable in ME1 because overheating is more of an obstacle than thermal clips.
>>You could different mods on it that gave it different effects. >More superfluous shit. >>Mods and add-ons, yet another casualty of ME2's attempt to reach "broader audiences". >No, it's BioWare seeing just how fricking boring and dull the combat gets once you just get a couple of damage reducing, shield improving mods for your armor and some damage increase and cooldown reduction mods for your gun.
Look at you, defending BioWare's dumbing down. You aren't worth replying to. Just say ME2 was your first game and you love casual mechanics and save me the trouble next time.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah, I figured variety and options wouldn't matter to a casual who just wants to run from point A to point B without a thought like in Skyrim.
Yeah, and I would imagine that shit like grenades would matter to someone pretending that the combat in ME1 is in any way deep or meaningful. >guns are less spammable in ME1 because overheating is more of an obstacle than thermal clips.
lol
okay so you just haven't played me1
got it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NTA, but you're beyond moronic. Everything you say is just stupider than the thing you said before. Unreal.
3 months ago
Anonymous
well constructed argument, anon
I concede
3 months ago
Anonymous
>keyboard faceroller tries to tell people what good gunplay is
spamming hotkeys in the general direction of the enemy will never be compelling compared to lining up headshots, sorry
3 months ago
Anonymous
>headshot
lel
name how many weapons kill an enemy in one headshot
3 months ago
Anonymous
why would that matter
I dunno about the trilogy, the first one is the only good game.
this isn't even your first post you sperg
3 months ago
Anonymous
>enter thread >immediate finger pointing
so this is the kind of person that enjoys mass effect 2...
3 months ago
Anonymous
>why would that matter
because it exposes you as a someone that hasn't played the games
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're literally asking for which weapons can 1 tap headshot which means you didn't play the games
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but I remember playing through as infiltrator through all 3 games and in all of them you could get a sniper rifle that on hit kill most basic enemies with headshots
Not the harder enemies obviously
3 months ago
Anonymous
the only weapons that one shot enemies are a certain archetype of sniper
but thanks for exposing yourself
now frick off and go farm more (you)s somewhere else
3 months ago
Anonymous
If you weren't a dumb skill hotkey spammer you would know that headshots are important for every weapon on any class. Stop playing on normal difficulty
>Oh yeah and grenades got removed in ME2 because its for casuals like you.
No, they probably removed them because they were and incredibly superfluous gameplay addition that most people didn't use. Why?
Because there was no need for it.
Because the gameplay is so easy, you can easily become OP as frick and kill all the people you mentioned even faster by just shooting them with a fricking gun.
Just face it, ME2 did biotic powers far, far better than ME1 by making them actually useful rather than just a pretty "wow look at the colors as I take even longer to kill enemies for no reason other than to justify my class pick."
>play ME1 on hardest difficulty >shoot at krogan/soldier type enemy >they're down to like 5% health >they activate immunity while on the ground >they literally don't take damage the entire duration >they get back up with full health/shields
why do people want this in the game
babby's first crpg, watered down and forcefully turned into an FPS for even wider normalgay appeal
so of course millenials love it because they love boring bullshit
The universe and the characters.
That's it.
It was a very simple good vs evil space opera with some very compelling and likable characters and a competent enough setting that let you think it was an actual universe.
It had plotholes and inconsistencies, but it still managed to be good.
I still like muh femshep and all my companions, sad ME died after 3 (I'm still coping with the indoctrination theory, leave me alone)
3 actually have some cool ending. Blue one literally show you TIM putting his fingers into high-voltage power socket, Green - dude walking straight into superhot plasma beam effectively vaporizing himself. I prefer to think, that magic boy (taking appearance of PTSD-induced hallucination) is forced by a huge metal dick in his ass to give Shepard a way out through Red, but actively tries to just make Shepard to kill himself ("What? Your champion went crazy from all that stress and took an easy way out on his own will, enjoy your reaping").
People didn't like it? I remember that there was big hype for AAA games and especially dragon age and mass effect.
Nowadays AAA is so trash that it's the synonym of low effort garbage.
it's a grand space adventure, characters are fun to have around, story starts in first game and ends in third game with a proper end-game conclusion that many might hate. It's a solid complete package of three story-driven games with an unique setting, and everything you played through stays with you as a very fond memory due to how complete it was.
you'd think it sounds like nothing special, but now give me three recent series that actually concluded in three games with no "oh let's not conclude this half of the story, we'll give it a fourth game or a spinoff later". hell, just one, give me one recent series that opens in first game, proceeds in second, and ties all of the ends with a proper finale in third game
IDK I feel the problem with the trilogy is that it heavily leaned on the reapers way too much, I mean ME2 was amazing in the sense it expanded the universe and you got to see all the politics and whatever going on, With Sovereign dead they should have just settled at that and just said maybe vaguely that the Reapers outside the galaxy would recieve the signal of his death in the next 50,000 years, meaning that its someone else's problem.
Thats literally all they had to do, the threat of the second game could have been a Criminal Syndicate experimenting with captured reaper tech, could have been a rogue AI, could have been some Asari Biotic cult etc they could have fricking done anything but they blew it because they didnt have the talent or money to do the whole reaper shit properly.
Genuinely the entire second game could have been about you solving mysteries, your base is Omega and Aria provides you contracts to go on missions, the illusive man and Cerebrus heal you after some batarian criminal attack and improve your body with minor reaper tech they find except it causes you hallucinations of Saren, and eventually you have to deal with the Geth and Legion to fix your brain before you go full Husk/Saren while the Illusive man is using you as a prototype to see how much reaper tech they can throw in someone before they lose free will. At the end of the game you have to choose if you want to keep the tech in your body or go purist
Third game is the Illusive Man using Cyborg Reaper troops under his command to try to take over the entire galaxy, the final boss is some human ship thats merged with reaper tech and its sentient but downloaded with the consciousness of the Illusive man who wants to ascend humanity into some kind of god hood state because its the only way, in his mind to stop whatever is coming in 50,000 years or whatever. The game also features a massive c war between the Asari and the Turians
Listen closely okay? That all sounds like dogshit. They should have kept the Reaper arc in, but made it about the original idea of mass effect (the phenomenon) speeding up the heat death of the galaxy with the reapers as a stop gap to cull advanced civilizations and allow the galaxy to recover for an epoch.
The only one in the series that kept that indoctrination shit to a minimum. Glad the characters have spines and commit crimes because they're morally dark and not because some third party is making them which absolves them from any sin
Why?
ME2 is easily the best.
ME1 introduces universe which is nice, but entire thing feels like universe introduction. Gameplay is atrocious.
ME3 aside from bad ending and some bad choices here and there isn't so bad. Gameplay is easily the best. Has great armor designs.
>skill hotkey spamming
huh? Did you play the game? There were only a small handful of skills you could spam to any decent effect, and most of them had long cool downs that could only be mitigated late-game at the cost of survivability.
Becasue there is nothing anywhere remotely close to it in any other games.
Give me one other example of a bioware style RPG where I explore space and fight aliens and get to bed aliens like I'm James T Fricking Kirk.
The only things that are remotely close are shit like Elex I guess, and maybe KOTOR?
Because playing 1 for the first time when it was new gave a feeling of wonder and excitement for what was to come next. I've never really felt that in any other game. 2 was honestly great but could not live up to the expectations that 1 gave us. 3 was actually mid at best and actually bad at the end, which was probably rushed since you could tell they had much bigger plans. Don't forget to quote me in your Mass Effect Analysis: A Complete Retrospective video.
it was great postulating how it would end and how intricate a random tiny choice in dialog in the original could butterfly into the ending turns out none of the choices we though mattered, mattered and most were painfully obvious like picking kaiden or ashley and that was it
At the end of the day games of this caliber, atmosphere, adventure and story crafting simply aren't coming back for a simple reason:
The Zoomer demographic have tiktok fortnite brains; they can't hold an attention span to bother with character arcs and narrative development, they can only play multi-player games, collect lootboxes, pay for microtransactions and collect Suicide Squad fortnite TikTok skins and loot collectibles
When you have a consumer demographic so brain dead and brain rotted, like Zoomers, who can only play multiplayer games with flashing ADHD colours everywhere on the screen with fort building and tiktok dances, then the industry caters for that; because they pay billions to do the fortnite tiktok mcdonald's dance in a new skin
Why bother spending the time making an engaging narrative when zoomers will already pay you $a billion dollars to eat slop
Every facet of western civilisation will follow suite as well. zoomers can't even read this much text
I think ME1 is actually the only romance I ever appreciated in any game
I 'romanced' Ashley but it wasn't at all like she was 'muh waifu' (it is Ashley after all), but it felt like a realistic, human relationship. It's the night before the final battle and we might die so lets frick. Now it's a trope at this point, but for me it worked with ME1 and it felt more natural and human
Now they try to make waifus and such and it just feels like a videogame. Rather than a proper human story being told.
I have never met a millennial who has anything but contempt for ME2 and ME3. ME1 is only seen as passably good because it had some semblance of old-Bioware writing.
Regardless of anyone's opinions here, you are ALL engaged in the discussion and dialogue of a 17 YEAR OLD IP and franchise.
Whether you like it or not, it had cultural impact for all of you to be fervently engaging with your contrasting, nuanced opinions almost 2 DECADES later. Zoomer homosexual shit like Fortnite tiktok Suicide Squad and every other multi-player, season oriented lootbox collectible centric zoomer trash that is released does not have the same cultural impact.
Nobody is going to be talking about whatever valheimtiktok gimmick fort builder suicide squad moron zoomer multiplayer apex trash in 20 years. Because you're all braindead NPCs who got vaccinated like goyim cattle
You'll never get this experience back, ever. The West is on the decline like Rome and each generation is more and more moronic and chemically warped from microplastics and porn than the last until you, as a race and civilisation, reach the magnum opus apex of moronation
The same way you appealed to the masses by conforming to the herd and wearing a mask like a lobotomised gimp for 2+ years for a virus that didn't even exist? That I'm still unvaxed for and still never even caught let alone died from?
>doesn’t even understand basic capitalization or punctuation
Truly you’re the real genius.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>changes his writing style with capitalization and punctuation after getting called out for not having reading comprehension >still doesnt understand what the original post was saying
lmaoing @ your life. again, i hope it isnt too hard on your parents
nah, popular opinion is that me2 is the best and it gives me nothing less than peak joy that they got ME3 afterwards
as someone who liked the first game, i knew the franchise was lost to the dogs when shepard was killed at the start of me2
Mass Effect 1 is genuinely one of the best modern era games released still. It holds up even better objectively than it did prior as rpgs got fricking worse. Mass Effect 2 on the other hand is one of the hardest falls from grace a came could have.
This. But the ME2 gays ITT will just insist you havent played either 1 or 2 when you start pointing out the flaws of ME2. Literally the shittiest argumentative tactic possible
>Thermal clips only works because the entire galaxy decided to switch to it in like four years >Don't have a universal ammo pool despite them all being interchangeable
It's a pretty solid trilogy from a sub genre (hard sci-fi RPG) that doesn't have that many entries. Obviously the gameplay is trash and the overarching narrative lacks proper direction but in the drought years they released in they were dynamite.
For me it's 3 > 2 > 1. I just enjoy 3's gameplay that much more than 1/2. The multiplayer was fun at the time too.
My main issue with 2 is that it feels like filler. As a self-contained game it's solid, as the middle of a trilogy fricking nothing happens and having almost every major character be killable because of the suicide mission kind of fricks over 3 since either no one can be important or they need to be replaceable by a functionally identical copy. Not to say 3 doesn't shoot itself in the foot regardless, but in retrospect I doubt there was ever going to be a satisfying conclusion given all the variables.
You just had to be there
The characters, the music, carrying choices for 3 games, the ATMOSPHERE.
>You just had to be there
Unironically this.
>the corpo pit of snakes is one of the comfiest locations
cause games are relative you fricking mongrel
then again, I never played, but I trust my brethren.
Majora's Mask is the same mid shit. all these 3d Mario platformers are the same at the end of the day.
i only love the first game. i hated 2 even when it released back then. and i still havent played 3.
I have the same opinion, 1 was a masterpiece even with its flaws. ME2 is complete fricking garbage. I recently bought the steam version to play through, but I can't even force myself to finish ME2 a second time, just pure suffering to have to play that shit.
I actually liked Mass Effect 2 even more on replay. It's a very good game. Sorry it doesn't work for you anon.
2? What are you talking about anon, BioWare never made any Mass Effect sequels after EA bought them out. We're forever stuck with the only entry and left wondering what Shepard would do in the sequels.
>i still havent played 3.
good choice, keep it up anon.
I'm playing through the trilogy on Steam after not touching since the release of 3. My opinions on 3 has really mellowed since then. The first game is the best and I don't I think it's the one that has aged the best. 2 is the worst one of the three and playing it now has made all its flaws apparent. In contrast, I find myself liking 3 more than I did at the time of release
They add more shit to the ending so that it wasn't just an RGB trinary choice. Also, in my opinion, 3 is worth it just for the Citadel DLC. it's unironically my favorite DLC of any game. Every single cheesy moment like clone Shep, Traynor's toothbrush, and Tali singing brought a huge smile to my face. Especially worthwhile if you keep everyone in your squad alive to the end.
Why are you me, real shame they killed promising scifi so early, we don't get many of those
2 > 3 > 1
I'm sorry but 1 just had such dog shit combat and exploration. Didn't like the ending either.
Space opera kino with awesome companions. Now you remind me I never finished andromeda, might go play that for a bit.
Andromeda is fricking awful.
It's a great space opera that blows 95% of TV shows out of the water.
It also has more than decent gameplay to boot.
Not hard to see why it's so succesful.
1 was okay. Mediocre. Passable. Not great but not terrible.
2 was trash. Never even bothered with 3.
it's a movie game from when they were young
I agree and I’m a millennial the series sucked. Star Ocean is better. The only thing that saves this crappy series is Miranda.
Easily best worldbuilding in a game series ever.
>mid
bioware filters another child as always
>we want the call of duty audience
>if you press a button, something awesome has to happen
>hamburger helper
Yeah man bioslop is such an awesome studio
>LE SLOP!! LE SLOP!! LE SLOPPITY SLOPPY SLOP!! I LOVE THE SLOPPY POOPA!! SLOPPY POOPA!?? YES I LOVE TO SLOP UP THE SLOPPITY POOPA INTO MY MOUTH!! POOPA SLOPPING IN MY MOUTH!!! YES THE SLOPPY POOPA!!
lol mindbroken goyslop cuck is mindbroken
die for israel
>
None of that relates to Mass Effect 1
Only ME1 is a Mass Effect game
My first playthrough, I thought 1 was okay, and thought 2 and 3 were great
After playing through the Legendary Edition, I thought 1 was the best gameplay wise. I couldn't even tell you what they changed in 1 to make it better in LE
I did prefer the relationships in 2 and 3
Both time I try this game I get bored after 40 minutes, thinking of trying again, does it get better if I just power through?
Yes
If you care about how well a game is written
Otherwise it's not a ground-breaking third person cover shooter. The RPG elements are nice
First time I played the game for a few hours on Xbox (original release), I hated it and thought it was trash. Returned it.
Something about it nagged in the back of my brain though
Eventually it came out on PC. I got it again. Became my favorite series for several years.
Mass Effect 1 was the best game in the series.
Just rolled credits and heard this song again last week. First time was 10 years ago, and no ending song hits as hard.
Only other song that resonated nearly as much was still alive at the end of mirror's edge 1.
When I heard this song it makes me want to believe (pic related).
All I hear is Buzz Aldrin when I hear this now. Thanks ME3.
i still dont understand why bioware turned shepard into space jesus in me2 and went full anime with the final bossfight
how you go from saren in me1 as your antagonist to "assuming control" in me2 and "space weeb ninja" in me3 is also beyond me
Karpyshin was a writer for 1, was a co-writer with some homosexual for 2 and was not in 3 at all.
Anyway, ME1 is good as space exploration military detective, ME2 is good at worldbuilding, characters and atmosphere. Your companions in 2, T'Loak and TIM are way better, than majority of 1 and 3 characters. ME3 has only Clone DLC and T'Loak DLC made relatively good and only if you go full renegade. And clone DLC is "mostly for laughs" spin-off.
i didnt care for the characters in me2
they all boiled down to "i have no motivation in life, im just a hired dog with daddy/familial issues"
the exceptions were ironically garrus and n7
>no motivation in life
Thane actively dies from illness, so his motivation is to ensure a future for his son. Jack is going for revenge against Cerberus, Grunt is in search of himself, Mordin tries to solve his guilt problem, Samara tries to fix problems she considers to be her personal responsibility, Legion explores interaction with humans. What "no motivation" pish posh are you trying to sell me? Has everybody to have a goal to be the Pirate Hokage?
>i have a clear motivation in life
>that is why i will abandon my motivation, go with some human on a completely unrelated quest and never aim to resolve my goal until this human comes and talks to me a few dozen times and we become friends
yes, that is called no motivation, anon
>his son
>cerberus who raised jack, ie surrogate parent
>grunt is looking for his surrogate dad
>mordin feels bad for not allowing others to have a family
>samsara has daughter issue
like i said, n7 and garrus had at least interesting plotlines and them joining you on your adventure was well motivated, plus going on a side adventure with them again was well motivated
the rest were just tacked on, but so was the entire story of me2 on to the looming dread of the reapers that we left me1 with
Err, no. That is clearly a motivation. Not everybody ignores everything else to kill Chaos, anon.
>n7
Who the frick are you talking about, moron? Shepard?
Zaeed is the only character I really like. No family issues, just a paid cynical merc. His line "turns out to be bullshit" line is my favorite.
>.
I mean Sovereign mind-rapes Saren's corpse, and has him jumping around like a crackhead at the end of me1
Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic game, and I'm not going to pretend it isn't anymore.
Better than 2 at least
2 was an overall weak game but i really liked the atmosphere of the opening hours, it left a very strong impression after you were this high and mighty soldier in the first game
cause of that blussy
ME2 is the best one, i don't care what you homosexuals have to say about it. 1 is literally the prototype for 2. its like new hope and empire.
This is the based and correct take.
No amount of
>dude but le reapers story!!!
will ever make ME2 less of the best ME game.
Sovereign dialogue> Harbinger dialogue
The writing just falls off a cliff. Don't pretend ME2 improved anything of value.
>Don't pretend ME2 improved anything of value.
Better gameplay
Better world
Better Normandy
better gameplay
>ammo now exists on energy weapons
>all the gear for resistance is gone and further simplified
>game is easier
no
>Better world
>Mako removed
>game cramped down into smaller spaces because exploring bad
no
>Better Normandy
Maybe.
Overall no.
>game is easier
>he says, defending the game where you can literally just become unkillable with a gun that never overheats
lol
>ammo now exists on energy weapons
Yeah? Having better gunplay is important for gameplay.
The gunplay in ME1 was utter dogshit.
>all the gear for resistance is gone and further simplified
Like it ever mattered in ME1 either.
You just get the DR and Shield upgrades and you become unkillable.
>Mako removed
Good change.
Mako parts where a fricking drag in ME1. Driving across poorly made worlds wasn't fun.
The scanning shit in ME2 isn't stellar, but it's easy to cheat out.
>game cramped down into smaller spaces because exploring bad
Right, really amazing exploration in ME1:
>land on planet
>drive 2 minutes through nothing to get to a PoI
>get out
>do a fricking minigame to get some resources (that you can't even use for anything other than credits)
>repeat 6-7 times
wow
amazing
>everything got simplified to "remove enemy barrier, shield, health bar"
Literally how it was in ME1
>a bunch of chest-high wall shooting corridors?
You mean like in ME1? Where everything looks like the exact same prefabs?
>with distinct towns
literally which ones
Feros?
I'll take Omega and Illium any day of the week.
>and in general a vision of a grand universe outside the scope of your mission
Which ME2 does a wayyyy better job at showing.
>better gameplay
nope, everything got simplified to "remove enemy barrier, shield, health bar"
>better world
what world? a bunch of chest-high wall shooting corridors? compare that to the half dozen worlds we got to visit in me1 with distinct towns, cultures, architectural design, and in general a vision of a grand universe outside the scope of your mission
and dont get me started on cerberus going from a fringe underground organisation in the first game to being the ultimate and biggest organisation in the world functioning as a shadow organisation behind EVERYTHING MUHAHAHAHAHA
>better normandy
frick right off
first two are also in ME3
ME3 normandy is trash with tarps and loose cables everywhere
ME2 wins again
maybe have a nice day in the head because you're indoctrinated? It's your favorite running gag after all
Better yet, assume direct control of yourself and have a nice day in the head ME2 gay
>what the frick do you want Sovereign
>"your mom lol, primitive creatures we2deep4you"
>who created you
>"me no endor start I wuz Alpha and Omega snd shit"
riveting
ME1 Sovereign feels alien. Actual first contact writing.
Harbringer is just shittalking.
>My motives…are too smart for you to understand.
>You’re nothing to me, that’s why I’m taking the time to personally call you a dummy.
Garbage writing. It’s JJ Abrams mystery box shit where you can tell the writers had no plan in mind yet so they just made Sovereign say some vague nonsense.
Looks like writing of Sovereign was too deep for you, anons. You literally can't comprehend him.
>t. reaper
>we are robots who kill organics so that they aren't killed by robots
Wow you're right, Sovereign and his fellow Reapers are incomprehensible. I can't comprehend this plan at all.
As opposed to what ?
>Harbinger: Human, you've changed nothing.
>Harbinger: Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater.
>Harbinger: That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.
>Harbinger: You will surrender your potential against the growing void. We return, and you will rise.
Sovereign > Harbringer
Both suck, but at least Harbinger doesn’t have people jerk off to him being so le mysterious and cool for saying nothing of value.
>everybody has to be basic Black person from Grove Street with simple motivation
Anon, you have shit taste.
But their motivation is simple. Just harvest all sentient organics every 500,000 years so they won’t be completely erased by their own A.I. creations.
>b-but they didn’t think of that until 3!
Okay, so the writers had zero motivation in mind when they wrote Sovereign’s speech which is still moronic and a sign of the bad planning that would haunt this series.
Somewhere out there is the document about early concept of Reapers each being a supermind of a race rather than another flying squidward drone with some of them going insane for some reason, but it was scrapped after Karpyshin's removal. You are talking about things you know nothing about.
Got a source for that? Karpyshyn’s plan was the dark energy idea but he didn’t think of that until he started writing 2.
Seen in one of me threads here about a year ago or so.
Like just someone mentioning it with no proof?
Like someone posting a document.
Well unless you can actually find this document it sounds like bullshit to me.
The Reapers being “superminds” isn’t even a motivation it’s just an explanation of what they are.
Go find it yourself. Unless, of course, you are here not to understand, how it would have been, but just to b***h about things.
>go find my proof for me it’s real trust me
kek
So you are here to b***h about things you don't want to know about. Understandable. I've seen this document, you didn't.
I saw a document proving that there was originally going to be a threesome romance option with Liara and Tali.
You want to see it? Uh…find it yourself. It’s out there somewhere. If you don’t want to find it you must not care about the truth.
You are the one who has started whining about "no motivation".
So you reply with your own little fanfiction and start seething when I ask you for a source?
>both suck
>sovereign considers you insignificant
>harbringer already considers you a big deal
Look at the figucking dialogue
>barely any buildup
>music from ME1 pops up, to remind you this is somehow significant
>Reaper is personal with you
?t=154
It's a bad joke when you compare the two
>buildup
>dialogue
>followup
>Rudimentary cteatures of blood and flesh, you toch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
You have to really have no taste to consider Harbringer dialogue good. I was specifically playing ME2 for the reaper contact and I got this shit.
>Yeah? Having better gunplay is important for gameplay.
Standard shooter in space does not make a good sci-fi game.
>The scanning shit in ME2 isn't stellar, but it's easy to cheat out.
look at your arguments. You consider the scanning a chore.
>Like it ever mattered in ME1 either.
It did. It made toxic/posion levels piss easy even with Tali. It gave meaning to gear base on planet you are on.
Past 2 none of that matters.It becomes generic as frick.
>Standard shooter in space does not make a good sci-fi game.
And whatever ME1 was doing wasn't making a good game either.
>You consider the scanning a chore.
And I consider driving around annoying maps, having to climb up mountains in the Mako to be fricking annoying as well.
Your point?
In ME2 it's a lot easier to ignore the chores than it is in ME1.
>It gave meaning to gear base on planet you are on.
No, it didn't.
Even on Nightmare that shit never mattered.
You wanted DR and shields, that's literally it.
Wasting your upgrade slots on shit like poison resistance was fricking moronic.
>it didn't matter
>Tali dies due to toxins due to negative poison/toxin ressisstance shields or not, unless you equip the proper gear
>why do game options matter
It's like you want the most cookie-cutter game and don't give a shit about anything sci-fi or gameplay at all.
>and don't give a shit about anything sci-fi or gameplay at all.
I didn't give a shit about the shit gameplay in 1.
It's literally just using shield recharge, or immunity.
The combat is literally so fricking bad that most of the time, in pinnacle station, if you're playing on the survive mode, you HAVE to let the enemy kill you otherwise you can just continue forever, because you can easily become THAT unkillable.
>sovereign considers you insignificant
Then why is he bothering to have a conversation at all? It serves him no purpose. Would you try talking to an ant if you caught one in your house?
>Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
You’re mistaking above average vocabulary for good writing. If you boil down what he’s actually saying it’s just
>Stupid monkey, what are you doing here, moron? I’m so much smarter and better than you are, stupid. You can’t stop me.
ME1gays seriously praise this as good writing just because it’s dressed up in fancier words.
And I’m not saying Harbinger is good either. None of the Reapers should have spoken at all.
>You’re mistaking above average vocabulary for good writing.
Funny, because ME2 doesn't even have that. It's just behind in every aspect , but the visual.
>criticize ME1
>b-but ME2!
Every fricking time. You’re just like Dark Souls 2 gays that always try deflecting to 3.
>describe demonstrably how it was the best the series has been
>BUT WHY ARE YOU COMPARING IT TO THE WORSE INTERATIONS
I was arguing with a ME2 gay, in case you didn't notice.
>”My motivations are too smart and mysterious for you to understand” was peak Mass Effect writing
Grim.
At least he won't be remembered as the worm thing that says *assuming direct control* 10 000 times during the missions
>the worm thing that says *assuming direct control*
best character in all bioware games.
Again, I don’t like Harbinger either. Are you autistic?
For the average series that the entirety of ME was, the contact with Sovereign was well written.
You can argue it's not top sci-fi to begin with, but this was the best the series ever got.
I disagree. The best part of Mass Effect’s writing is the character interactions, not some evil space squid trying too hard to be vague.
That is the issue though.
ME1 aimed at sci-fi
ME2-3 went hard on beomg waifu/gayfu simulator and that hurt the sci-fi part
Not really. Adding more romance options doesn’t change the fact that 2 and 3’s squadmates were way more developed and interesting. Give me Mordin or Legion over boring headache man any day. The returning squadmates are also done better except maybe for Ashley.
It directs the writing staff to write characters more than setting.
It devalues the actual plot in favor of: MUH WAIFU
But that’s not true at all. You spent a small fraction of your time doing romance shit, it’s just a handful of conversations for each other character. 2 still had some great worldbuilding with how much it developed krogan, salarian, quarian, and geth cultures and showing the darker side of the galaxy with places like Omega and Illium.
It grew over time. Not in a good way.
How? You’re acting like 1% of the game is the entire thing. I don’t know why romance OPTIONS make you this mad.
What you claim is 1% eventually evolved into really fricking cringe singing and in 3/Andromeda - entire song sequences.
The focus on character development was just too much compared to the setting. That is what attracted subpar writers like hamburger helper on the project to begin with.
From a sci-fi setting to a drama setting. Slowly but steadily.
>1 cringe scene in a DLC means all romance options are bad
And again it’s all completely optional. You can play gigachad volcel Shepard and ignore it all if you want. Do you feel like you’re missing out on content or something?
>you have to put in effort to avoid content in the game to experience a meaningful playthrough
I feel like the game is just not made for sci-fi fans anymore and pull back from the series as the tumblr fanbase swarmed in.
>not clicking the obvious “let’s frick” option takes effort
Are you just shitposting? I really hope you are.
How am I shitposting ? The series demonstrably declines in terms of setting.
Horrible writers are brought in to write subpar dialogues, songs and love interest routes. Even shitty books pop up.
Even in 3 the romance stuff is less than an hour of dialogue combined for every character. This incel rage you have is so confusing to me. Romance options have zero impact on the main plot.
Not sure how many times it has to be said, it is not just the romance, but the excessive focus on characters, rather than setting.
Sci-fi is not interesting because I get to know how Tali fights her father or what dumb drama some character had with their family.
Sci-fi is interesting when it explores alien things and ideas.
>muh incel rage
Think whatever you want. Just never become a writer.
But they’re still sci-fi stories. Yes Tali’s loyalty mission is partly about her father, but it also introduces you to The Migrant Fleet for the first time and shows the player how quarian culture works first hand instead of just hearing it from Tali or reading it in a codex. It also establishes the different admirals and their own perspectives on how to deal with the geth, with Gerrel wanting war, Xen wanting to retake control, and Korris wanting to forget them and settle a new world. All of this is important set up for ME3.
You have so much tunnel vision for hating characters that you miss the bigger picture.
>Just never become a writer.
Right back at you. Your stories would have every character act like an autistic robot.
The appeal of Mass Effect, just like its inspiration Star Trek, was having both interesting sci-fi and a likable cast of characters.
>You have so much tunnel vision for hating characters that you miss the bigger picture.
That is literally you.
>The appeal of Mass Effect, just like its inspiration Star Trek, was having both interesting sci-fi and a likable cast of characters.
Except Star Trek tries actual exploration or at least used to, while ME2 drops any attempts at that.
You are the type of normie that disregards science fiction classics, because they lack enough interpersonal drama and everything you touch boils down to a sitcom episode.
Your kind is the worst.
>no u
All you do is exaggerate and say having interesting characters is bad because…it just is, okay!
Eat my shit.
All you do is promote the worst decisions in a failed series.
The worst decision was bringing back the Reapers after 1.
another normie take
Go enjoy the citadel musicals for all I care. Surely that brings flavor to your space drama.
Sorry I’m not a fan of evil robot squids like you are.
>Star Wars analogy
Yup, sounds like a ME2 fan
2>1>3
The only correct answer
Your fricking zoomer brain is mid.
Shut up baldy
The only thing ME2 had over the first were the crew minus Jacob, the weapons in the first game were actually different and useful. As a matter of fact for weapons, ME1>ME3>ME2
6 dollars for three huge games is a steal
The first game is fantastic though. Everything you could possibly want from a space opera video game.
Game 1 was a sci-fi with decent RPG elements
Game 2 devolved into drama
Game 3 was arse
Anything that followed was ass too
Honsetly few people actually liked it. I found one guy who thought ME invented the concept of AI rebelling against its creators.
So in a way, it was an entry point into basic sci-fi concepts for people who don't read books.
It was never some amazing setting. ME1 was just average. Everything else falls below average.
It always had the taint of Bioware and ugly women. The beautiful Asari, that make you think they look the best for your species look like this. But in game 1 there were ideas.
>GO GO GO
>ENEMIES ARE EVERYWHERE
I do not miss ME1 combat at all
Does mid mean mediocre or bad?
I thought it meant 'middling', so mediocre or so-so. Which is actually pretty above average for an action RPG.
But I also hear zoomers literally using it in direct opposition to 'good' as if it means 'bad'.
Why don't you have a nice day zoomer?
Cool space opera world (that bioware destroyed and dropped)
Some great characters
That's it, the rest is nothing special
then what games should we love oh great gaylord king of vidya taste in /v?
ME2 is par excellence and ME1 is good. Didn't finish 3
Mass Effect 1 was the best and I unapologetically love its janky combat and the mako levels.
When will we get another sci-fi game this comfy, I'm sick of fantasy slop...
Pour yourself some corellian ale. Or sell some gizkas.
The only sci-fi from here on out will be dystopian ones because people no longer have hope for a better future. Basically 99% of comfy escapism is fantasy at this point, as people intuitively understand that more technology = less freedom.
Exodus, maybe. Drew Karpyshyn is the lead writer.
Play Star Control 2 when it re-releases as Free Stars.
If this doesn't connect with you on some spiritual level, you aren't white
>younger me
>friend comes over
>yo, you have to check this game out, you can frick a hot alien girl and its animated
You do not understand how groundbreaking this was. Also evil morality choices for my edgy phase
Setting, music, atmosphere
Babby's first ____ in many other respects, but those 3 aspects are important.
It is their BG3: an utterly mediocre experience that happens to have some awkward sex scenes.
Why do zoomers speak like Black folk? It's cringe at best.
murrica
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seriously, keklmao
I had a dream once where I played Mass Effect sequel with non human character creation
I like the concept of Mass Effect more than the actual ME games. The idea of a tpp shooter with some rpg features in a space opera setting is very appealing to me and unfortunately ME is the only game that does it.
starfield
the outer worlds
Those games are pure dumpster fires, anon.
starfield - bethesda open world copypaste, setting isn't interesting. Conceptually it is cool but execution is extremely far from what i want.
outer worlds - reddit quirkfest (mass effect has this too I guess but outer worlds has this as a defining feature)
>starfield
>Space Opera with no fricking aliens
Whether or not the game was good, it could never fill the hole left behind by Mass Effect, and I don't think you understand what role ME had as a game.
Dragon age is better
Only the first Mass Effect is good. ME2 is really just a guilty pleasure, it doesn't hold up in terms of writing compared to the first, its plot does not advance the reaper story in anyway. It just exists to have ideas that sound good in a hollywood writers room.
>whoa, SHEPARD DIES IN THIS??
>the normandy gets destroyed 🙁
>omg, you JOIN CERBERUS?
>"we're putting together a crew..."
Even the gameplay is worse in 2 than in the first, it has much less depth and only looks better visually. ME2 is shlocky, thats why people play it. It doesn't have any moments like with Vigil in 1, or meeting Sovereign on Virmire. Its incredibly easy to have everyone survive in the "suicide mission" which again, the collectors and their base have little to no bearing on the overall plot of the reaper invasion. Then, building on ME2, ME3 falls to complete shit and isn't even worth mentioning.
>Even the gameplay is worse in 2 than in the first
Kys moronic contrarian
It is. Every single class has less skills, shield boost is gone, immunity is gone, the universal shared cooldown prevents any cool combos you can do (now you have to combo with squadmates exclusively, who also have 10 less skills then they did in previous games). But DUDE! We have BIOTIC CHARGE! And a COLLECTOR LASER BEAM! EPIC! Grow up
>prefers face rolling skill hotkeys to gunplay
>convinced she's better than everyone
lmao
>gunplay
>mass effect
Try playing more games. Then try addressing my points in your next post. Until then, I accept your concession.
Mass effect has AoE and homing powers. You didn't win anything you dyslexic woman
>shield boost is gone, immunity is gone
>the two most broken abilities that completely trivialize the combat are gone
oh no
>We have BIOTIC CHARGE!
Yup, more fun to use than any of the biotic powers in 1.
Actually lifting a whole group of 6 guys, then using singularity on them, then using warp, then using throw, and following up with a grenade is way cooler than using charge. And you can do all of the things I said in 7 seconds without waiting for a universal cooldown. Oh yeah and grenades got removed in ME2 because its for casuals like you.
Great contribution, midwit. Concession accepted
You really have no response to how braindead skill spam is compared to gunplay huh? Concession accepted
Mass effect doesn't have good gunplay. Not any of them. You seriously need to play more games. Its funny how you think having access to a variety of skills in sequence that have long cooldowns, sometimes 30 seconds long, so they cant be spammed, is somehow more braindead than ME2s gameplay. What a joke. Just say ME2 was your first game.
Grenades added variety. You could different mods on it that gave it different effects. Mods and add-ons, yet another casualty of ME2's attempt to reach "broader audiences".
>"wow look at the colors as I take even longer to kill enemies for no reason other than to justify my class pick."
This isn't an argument. Its more fitting to say this when talking about ME2, which is the one that opts for more visual flair than having actual variety in your powers. You really are it's target audience - a casual who wants less mechanics and a dumbed down system.
>Grenades added variety.
So?
There was no reason to use them when:
a) they're a limited resource that isn't all that accurate
b) your gun has unlimited ammo that does way more damage and is pin point accurate
>You could different mods on it that gave it different effects.
More superfluous shit.
>Mods and add-ons, yet another casualty of ME2's attempt to reach "broader audiences".
No, it's BioWare seeing just how fricking boring and dull the combat gets once you just get a couple of damage reducing, shield improving mods for your armor and some damage increase and cooldown reduction mods for your gun.
>which is the one that opts for more visual flair than having actual variety in your powers
No.
Having shit like biotic charge is better than whatever was going on in 1.
Having better damage options like shockwave also makes it better to use them, not only for the fact that you only have limited ammo, so there is a reason to use your powers as much as possible.
>You really are it's target audience - a casual who wants less mechanics and a dumbed down system.
And you really think you are any better, pretending that ME1 isn't casual as frick.
Actually insane.
>So?
Yeah, I figured variety and options wouldn't matter to a casual who just wants to run from point A to point B without a thought like in Skyrim.
>a) limited and not accurate
Limited is good, not accurate is a skill issue on your part. Then regarding your b) point, guns are less spammable in ME1 because overheating is more of an obstacle than thermal clips.
>>You could different mods on it that gave it different effects.
>More superfluous shit.
>>Mods and add-ons, yet another casualty of ME2's attempt to reach "broader audiences".
>No, it's BioWare seeing just how fricking boring and dull the combat gets once you just get a couple of damage reducing, shield improving mods for your armor and some damage increase and cooldown reduction mods for your gun.
Look at you, defending BioWare's dumbing down. You aren't worth replying to. Just say ME2 was your first game and you love casual mechanics and save me the trouble next time.
>Yeah, I figured variety and options wouldn't matter to a casual who just wants to run from point A to point B without a thought like in Skyrim.
Yeah, and I would imagine that shit like grenades would matter to someone pretending that the combat in ME1 is in any way deep or meaningful.
>guns are less spammable in ME1 because overheating is more of an obstacle than thermal clips.
lol
okay so you just haven't played me1
got it.
NTA, but you're beyond moronic. Everything you say is just stupider than the thing you said before. Unreal.
well constructed argument, anon
I concede
>keyboard faceroller tries to tell people what good gunplay is
spamming hotkeys in the general direction of the enemy will never be compelling compared to lining up headshots, sorry
>headshot
lel
name how many weapons kill an enemy in one headshot
why would that matter
this isn't even your first post you sperg
>enter thread
>immediate finger pointing
so this is the kind of person that enjoys mass effect 2...
>why would that matter
because it exposes you as a someone that hasn't played the games
you're literally asking for which weapons can 1 tap headshot which means you didn't play the games
nta but I remember playing through as infiltrator through all 3 games and in all of them you could get a sniper rifle that on hit kill most basic enemies with headshots
Not the harder enemies obviously
the only weapons that one shot enemies are a certain archetype of sniper
but thanks for exposing yourself
now frick off and go farm more (you)s somewhere else
If you weren't a dumb skill hotkey spammer you would know that headshots are important for every weapon on any class. Stop playing on normal difficulty
>Oh yeah and grenades got removed in ME2 because its for casuals like you.
No, they probably removed them because they were and incredibly superfluous gameplay addition that most people didn't use. Why?
Because there was no need for it.
Because the gameplay is so easy, you can easily become OP as frick and kill all the people you mentioned even faster by just shooting them with a fricking gun.
Just face it, ME2 did biotic powers far, far better than ME1 by making them actually useful rather than just a pretty "wow look at the colors as I take even longer to kill enemies for no reason other than to justify my class pick."
>play ME1 on hardest difficulty
>shoot at krogan/soldier type enemy
>they're down to like 5% health
>they activate immunity while on the ground
>they literally don't take damage the entire duration
>they get back up with full health/shields
why do people want this in the game
>>they activate immunity while on the ground
This is impossible, they can't cast spells while on the ground or in ragdoll. Post video proof of this occurring or go frick yourself, troony.
babby's first crpg, watered down and forcefully turned into an FPS for even wider normalgay appeal
so of course millenials love it because they love boring bullshit
>crpg
wat
the Mass Effect was a watered down KOTOR, which itself was a watered down Neverwinter Nights, which itself was a watered down Baldur's Gate 2.
Does the new EA launcher work yet?
The universe and the characters.
That's it.
It was a very simple good vs evil space opera with some very compelling and likable characters and a competent enough setting that let you think it was an actual universe.
It had plotholes and inconsistencies, but it still managed to be good.
I still like muh femshep and all my companions, sad ME died after 3 (I'm still coping with the indoctrination theory, leave me alone)
3 actually have some cool ending. Blue one literally show you TIM putting his fingers into high-voltage power socket, Green - dude walking straight into superhot plasma beam effectively vaporizing himself. I prefer to think, that magic boy (taking appearance of PTSD-induced hallucination) is forced by a huge metal dick in his ass to give Shepard a way out through Red, but actively tries to just make Shepard to kill himself ("What? Your champion went crazy from all that stress and took an easy way out on his own will, enjoy your reaping").
Will game like mass effect happen again?
How could things get so bad that games from 15 years ago are better than everything released today?
You know, anon, when ME1 had just came out, people were asking themselves almost exactly the same question, but with a slightly different timespan.
People didn't like it? I remember that there was big hype for AAA games and especially dragon age and mass effect.
Nowadays AAA is so trash that it's the synonym of low effort garbage.
mass effect goes to shit once you realize the planets are mostly empty. Space is boring.
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>randomly breaks free from mind control and tells their evil plan
top tier ME1 writing, bravo
you have shit taste
it's a grand space adventure, characters are fun to have around, story starts in first game and ends in third game with a proper end-game conclusion that many might hate. It's a solid complete package of three story-driven games with an unique setting, and everything you played through stays with you as a very fond memory due to how complete it was.
you'd think it sounds like nothing special, but now give me three recent series that actually concluded in three games with no "oh let's not conclude this half of the story, we'll give it a fourth game or a spinoff later". hell, just one, give me one recent series that opens in first game, proceeds in second, and ties all of the ends with a proper finale in third game
Millenials are subhumans with shit taste
t. millenial
IDK I feel the problem with the trilogy is that it heavily leaned on the reapers way too much, I mean ME2 was amazing in the sense it expanded the universe and you got to see all the politics and whatever going on, With Sovereign dead they should have just settled at that and just said maybe vaguely that the Reapers outside the galaxy would recieve the signal of his death in the next 50,000 years, meaning that its someone else's problem.
Thats literally all they had to do, the threat of the second game could have been a Criminal Syndicate experimenting with captured reaper tech, could have been a rogue AI, could have been some Asari Biotic cult etc they could have fricking done anything but they blew it because they didnt have the talent or money to do the whole reaper shit properly.
Genuinely the entire second game could have been about you solving mysteries, your base is Omega and Aria provides you contracts to go on missions, the illusive man and Cerebrus heal you after some batarian criminal attack and improve your body with minor reaper tech they find except it causes you hallucinations of Saren, and eventually you have to deal with the Geth and Legion to fix your brain before you go full Husk/Saren while the Illusive man is using you as a prototype to see how much reaper tech they can throw in someone before they lose free will. At the end of the game you have to choose if you want to keep the tech in your body or go purist
Third game is the Illusive Man using Cyborg Reaper troops under his command to try to take over the entire galaxy, the final boss is some human ship thats merged with reaper tech and its sentient but downloaded with the consciousness of the Illusive man who wants to ascend humanity into some kind of god hood state because its the only way, in his mind to stop whatever is coming in 50,000 years or whatever. The game also features a massive c war between the Asari and the Turians
Completely agree. The ME universe would have been perfect for an anthology series, 2 proves that.
The Reapers were not supposed to appear in the franchise again after the first game. They are literally the main reason why the franchise died.
It was just Bioware dying and as far as I remember also firing the original mass effect writer. Just remember that dragon age 2 happened after(?) ME2.
Didn't read your post but I saved your pic so have one in return.
Listen closely okay? That all sounds like dogshit. They should have kept the Reaper arc in, but made it about the original idea of mass effect (the phenomenon) speeding up the heat death of the galaxy with the reapers as a stop gap to cull advanced civilizations and allow the galaxy to recover for an epoch.
The dark energy ending would have been shit too just in different ways
Mass Effect 2 is the best game in the franchise. Only a complete degenerate could think otherwise.
You only think that if you played ME2 first.
No. Before Mass Effect 2 came out, I beat the first game at least 5 times.
The only one in the series that kept that indoctrination shit to a minimum. Glad the characters have spines and commit crimes because they're morally dark and not because some third party is making them which absolves them from any sin
>Mass Effect 2 is the best game in the franchise.
on planet moron
I dunno about the trilogy, the first one is the only good game.
you homosexuals are moronic, I'm leaving this thread.
For me it's ME2>ME3>ME1
fricking casuals. not even once.
Why?
ME2 is easily the best.
ME1 introduces universe which is nice, but entire thing feels like universe introduction. Gameplay is atrocious.
ME3 aside from bad ending and some bad choices here and there isn't so bad. Gameplay is easily the best. Has great armor designs.
skill hotkey spamming moron is convinced that stat check gameplay is the pinnacle of the series. ME1 must be their first game
>skill hotkey spamming
huh? Did you play the game? There were only a small handful of skills you could spam to any decent effect, and most of them had long cool downs that could only be mitigated late-game at the cost of survivability.
Becasue there is nothing anywhere remotely close to it in any other games.
Give me one other example of a bioware style RPG where I explore space and fight aliens and get to bed aliens like I'm James T Fricking Kirk.
The only things that are remotely close are shit like Elex I guess, and maybe KOTOR?
ME3 has the best OST
And yes I am aware ME2 has Suicide Run.
ME3 has music from all three games though
The best songs are pretty original. There might be motifs but they are original and creative, not just remixes of old songs.
Leaving Earth
View of Palaven
An End, Once and For All
All kinography.
I can’t remember any tracks except the sad piano one
That's a weird way to say ME1.
Because playing 1 for the first time when it was new gave a feeling of wonder and excitement for what was to come next. I've never really felt that in any other game. 2 was honestly great but could not live up to the expectations that 1 gave us. 3 was actually mid at best and actually bad at the end, which was probably rushed since you could tell they had much bigger plans. Don't forget to quote me in your Mass Effect Analysis: A Complete Retrospective video.
it was great postulating how it would end and how intricate a random tiny choice in dialog in the original could butterfly into the ending turns out none of the choices we though mattered, mattered and most were painfully obvious like picking kaiden or ashley and that was it
test
You had to be there for the first one
I hate ME2 so much.
At the end of the day games of this caliber, atmosphere, adventure and story crafting simply aren't coming back for a simple reason:
The Zoomer demographic have tiktok fortnite brains; they can't hold an attention span to bother with character arcs and narrative development, they can only play multi-player games, collect lootboxes, pay for microtransactions and collect Suicide Squad fortnite TikTok skins and loot collectibles
When you have a consumer demographic so brain dead and brain rotted, like Zoomers, who can only play multiplayer games with flashing ADHD colours everywhere on the screen with fort building and tiktok dances, then the industry caters for that; because they pay billions to do the fortnite tiktok mcdonald's dance in a new skin
Why bother spending the time making an engaging narrative when zoomers will already pay you $a billion dollars to eat slop
Every facet of western civilisation will follow suite as well. zoomers can't even read this much text
it's spiritual successor to Kotor with actual earth but without lightsabers
I think ME1 is actually the only romance I ever appreciated in any game
I 'romanced' Ashley but it wasn't at all like she was 'muh waifu' (it is Ashley after all), but it felt like a realistic, human relationship. It's the night before the final battle and we might die so lets frick. Now it's a trope at this point, but for me it worked with ME1 and it felt more natural and human
Now they try to make waifus and such and it just feels like a videogame. Rather than a proper human story being told.
Good point, really underrated.
no one noticed liara's eyebrows are painted on? Lmao who would romance that b***h
Excuse me, but I am a space racist. No blue buttholes on this Normandy.
I have never met a millennial who has anything but contempt for ME2 and ME3. ME1 is only seen as passably good because it had some semblance of old-Bioware writing.
Regardless of anyone's opinions here, you are ALL engaged in the discussion and dialogue of a 17 YEAR OLD IP and franchise.
Whether you like it or not, it had cultural impact for all of you to be fervently engaging with your contrasting, nuanced opinions almost 2 DECADES later. Zoomer homosexual shit like Fortnite tiktok Suicide Squad and every other multi-player, season oriented lootbox collectible centric zoomer trash that is released does not have the same cultural impact.
Nobody is going to be talking about whatever valheimtiktok gimmick fort builder suicide squad moron zoomer multiplayer apex trash in 20 years. Because you're all braindead NPCs who got vaccinated like goyim cattle
You'll never get this experience back, ever. The West is on the decline like Rome and each generation is more and more moronic and chemically warped from microplastics and porn than the last until you, as a race and civilisation, reach the magnum opus apex of moronation
I’m sure your Ganker circle jerk threads represent popular opinion
yeah appeal to the masses, that makes you smart. keep it up
The same way you appealed to the masses by conforming to the herd and wearing a mask like a lobotomised gimp for 2+ years for a virus that didn't even exist? That I'm still unvaxed for and still never even caught let alone died from?
literally nobody brought up the vaxx once you fricking schizo lmao. you are deranged
>it’s okay when I appeal to the masses of millennials
my condolences for your lack of reading comprehension and damaged frontal lobe. i hope it isnt too hard on your parents
>doesn’t even understand basic capitalization or punctuation
Truly you’re the real genius.
>changes his writing style with capitalization and punctuation after getting called out for not having reading comprehension
>still doesnt understand what the original post was saying
lmaoing @ your life. again, i hope it isnt too hard on your parents
nah, popular opinion is that me2 is the best and it gives me nothing less than peak joy that they got ME3 afterwards
as someone who liked the first game, i knew the franchise was lost to the dogs when shepard was killed at the start of me2
There weren't a lot of fully voiced branching dialog option RPGs back then
for me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FacvSLa-2M
the games get worse as you go on but 1 and 2 were pretty enjoyable, hell 3's multiplayer was good at least which is a shock
Mass Effect 1 is genuinely one of the best modern era games released still. It holds up even better objectively than it did prior as rpgs got fricking worse. Mass Effect 2 on the other hand is one of the hardest falls from grace a came could have.
This. But the ME2 gays ITT will just insist you havent played either 1 or 2 when you start pointing out the flaws of ME2. Literally the shittiest argumentative tactic possible
It goes both ways though. ME1 purists can’t take any criticism at all.
ME1 is the only good one. That's all
>ME1 is the only good one. That's all
i was 18 and siding with pic related to get shit done without moral restaints was very deep and meaningfull
>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/944906-mass-effect-2/54265722
this but unironically
ME1 did writing, atmosphere and worldbuilding best. ME3 did raw gameplay best. Anyone who considers 2 their favourite is a genuine moron.
2 has
>best squad
>best settings for missions
>best side content and DLC
>best finale
Shadowbroker lair was good. Arrival was dog water. Zaeed probably the best human teammate
>best finale
>that fricking moronic human reaper
>ME1 did writing, atmosphere and worldbuilding best. ME3 did raw gameplay best. Anyone who considers 2 their favourite is a genuine moron.
anyone that likes me1 and me3 should shoot themselves in the head for being indoctrinated
Its basically the only half way decent sci-fi rpg.
I did all for the first time last year and for me the first one was better, 2 had better friends but thats it
>Thermal clips only works because the entire galaxy decided to switch to it in like four years
>Don't have a universal ammo pool despite them all being interchangeable
I like Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, KOTOR, Mass Effect 1-2, and Dragon Age. I didn't like ME3 and Andromeda that much.
It's a pretty solid trilogy from a sub genre (hard sci-fi RPG) that doesn't have that many entries. Obviously the gameplay is trash and the overarching narrative lacks proper direction but in the drought years they released in they were dynamite.
>zoomer doesn't understand the based space opera of white man saving the galaxy while banging hot alien babes
For me it's 3 > 2 > 1. I just enjoy 3's gameplay that much more than 1/2. The multiplayer was fun at the time too.
My main issue with 2 is that it feels like filler. As a self-contained game it's solid, as the middle of a trilogy fricking nothing happens and having almost every major character be killable because of the suicide mission kind of fricks over 3 since either no one can be important or they need to be replaceable by a functionally identical copy. Not to say 3 doesn't shoot itself in the foot regardless, but in retrospect I doubt there was ever going to be a satisfying conclusion given all the variables.
1>3>2
I agree about 2 and 3 but while 1 is jank its the full package and tells a relatively complete story.
It just has the vibe fr