why do most people prefer ETS over ATS? Is it just personal preference?
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why do most people prefer ETS over ATS? Is it just personal preference?
why do most people prefer ETS over ATS? Is it just personal preference?
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ETS has hundreds of more players than ATS
>43k vs 8k
whats your point here
if the difference is 35,000 players I wouldn't say there are "hundreds" more players in ETS.
Stupid little moron you're so fricking dumb.
Because it's a eurojank franchise so ETS has more detail than ATS does, which is a shame because the setting of ATS would be far more enthralling due to how dramatic the geography of the US is.
>due to how dramatic the geography of the US is.
homie what? Its almost entirely flat with areas of geographic interest separated by the entire continent.
>its an america level
SOUL
>it's a floridaman level
will I be shot by harriers?
This is exactly the problem: almost perfectly straight roads for tens of miles. Roads in Europe are much more interesting. In older truck games it was less evident because Murca was more scaled down so interesting places were closer together.
Also trucks in both games are just too good, even if it may sound strange. There is little sense of progression when even the cheapest trucks look great and have enough power to pull a load up any hill. We need old trucks!
moron
>Oiv bruv 'merica jus neyrok and ellay innit?
In the US there are places where you can be standing in a 100° desert and be less than five miles away from snow. There are very few places in the world with the level of geographic variety as the US. Europe is all rolling temperate grasslands and forest outside of the Alps.
The state of California alone has more geographic diversity than the entire continent of Europe, what kind of dumbfrick europoor seethe is this
aren't American roads just massive straight lines with 90 degree corners? cant think of anything more boring.
Depends on the state you're in. The PNW is almost entirely twisty roads
>non american thinks he knows anything about america
many such cases.
how am I wrong? Roads are objectively wider in America, planning within cities is objectively less organic and more grid like.
it depends on a bunch of shit.
i like whatever city planner in my hometown decided that there's no reason a bridge can't have a 3 way intersection in the middle.
>no roundabout
ONE job
i feel like the town i currently live in is turning every intersection downtown into a roundabout just because they can
>Meanwhile, in Brazilian Truck Simulator:
Better game and better locations and roads.
Who would want to drive for 4 hours with cruise control on a straight road?
guess I'll have to install ets again. Surprised it still gets content added to it. Greece is next up
>Who would want to drive for 4 hours with cruise control on a straight road?
Isn’t that already the point of the fricking genre?
ETS has been around longer.
American trucking just feels more soulful
holy basado
>released with 2 (two) states
>8 years and a shitload of paid DLCs later
>14 states
Gee I wonder why nobody gives a frick
ATS was just a scheme for the dev to take paid vacations in flyover states.
they model the roads off google maps
what the frick? I just checked the map and it's literally the western states only. that's bullshit, driving in the Appalachian mountains is extremely fun
Cause they started with only California and Nevada. They're slowly making their way over to the east coast
Small slav team please understand
people grow up out of their angst phase
The game mostly appeals to the European mind (autism), and thus they will choose Europe over America.
You say that but all the autist trans people are American
I prefer ETS just because trucks have flat fronts so I can actually SEE what the frick is in front of me
>I can actually SEE what the frick is in front of me
That's unnecessary.
NOOOOOOOOOO MY LAMBO
that was a mustang doe
If you haven't tried these games in VR I highly recommend it. Going back and playing the flatscreen feels underwhelming compared to full-3D and feeling like you're actually sitting in the cabin
>game doesn't force you to make your own driver logs
shit game 0/10
I get the feeling ATS/ETS2 is only the "fun" parts of trucking while the actual job of trucking is soul crushing
it's funny, for a brief moment i was considering becoming a trucker because it sounded comfy
then i read about what it's actually like
yeesh, no wonder these companies are always so desperate for drivers considering how hard they frick them over
yeah don't do that. vehicle sims exist because they are the fun part without all the bureaucracy bullshit.
>truck sim is fun because time is compressed, no paperwork, you always 10 zillion dollars, ai drivers who generally always yield, etc.
>flight sim is fun becayuse there's no 3 hours of pre flight checks, filling out 13 reams of reports, etc.
you dont have electronic logs?
i'm still waiting for them to add my state, until you can truck coast to coast it's an incomplete game.
I just got back into the game and it's pretty impressive how far they've gotten
how the frick are they going to do NY, especially Manhatten and Long Island? That's a tall task
They did a good job capturing the big-city feel in Seattle, I imagine for NYC they'd have almost all of it be inaccessible except for a few select locations on the periphery
>ETS2 still refuses to release the Russia DLC because of "muh war"
>ATS Still hasn't even finished all of the states west of the Mississippi despite being out for nearly a decade
I don't understand these guys
>pretty impressive
>game has been out 8 years
The USA will be Mexico before AMS gets to the East Coast.
I'm sure a hypothetical company ran by you would do a better job
at my previous job, I ran regional on this route, and I can say that the game is more or less accurate in its depiction of this route, except that you miss some key things, like raton pass on the border of southern colorado/northern new mexico, as well as the 287/87 is supposed to go straight through, north from amarillo, to dumas/cactus/statford/boisie city/campo/springfield before getting to lamar. that shit isn't in the game. hope they fix it later on down the line, kinda flares my autism for some reason.
>some out-dated paint job mod corrupts my 100+ hours save
It was fun while it lasted, I guess
North American scenery
>trees
>suburbia
>mountains
>more trees
>even more trees
>jammed 10-lane highway
European scenery
>lively dense neigborhoods
>castles n shieeet
>narrow challenging mountain roads
>well-maintained infrastructure
gee I wonder why people would rather drive in Europe
North American scenery
>soul
>European scenery
>soulless
Does euroland even have any roadside dinosaur museums?
I live in America, driving here is objectively boring as frick.
I wish my town did this so I wouldn't have to endure stopping at every city block
>but nooo mutts are too moronic to deal with a simple asphalt circle
>driving here is objectively boring as frick
>I live in America
hard doubt
American motorsports : drive in a straight line with a slight curve
American car culture: drag race along a straight line
American super cars: go fast in a straight line
American cars: frick huge
I wonder where this culture came from, couldn't be all the gigantic, boring straight roads.
ancient rome, the big straight roads, the insula grid like city planning, the oval races, capitol hill, all of it, ancient rome.
You would have a point if cars were invented in ancient rome. America chose to have boring roads which led to boring cars and boring car culture, they chose ancient rome.
>America chose to have boring roads
The entirety of the EU is currently upending their infrastructure in every major city to build huge circuit "motorways" in perimeter loops to try and fix how fricked their roads are. They're basically doing a moronic version of what America's cities already do somewhat moronicly.
If you live within a city you dont need a car in the EU. yeah, its easier to drive in American cities because they were built around cars instead of people.
American cities predate cars by over a century, moron. They were built for commerce rather than to confuse invading armies.
doesnt matter what the original intent was they were bulldozed and paved with fat frick roads to accommodate cars.
>shit that didn't happen
American roads have always been wide. It's so big stagecoaches and Conestoga wagons could pull a U-turn on the street without blocking traffic. Like I said, designed for commerce rather than for security. European roads are tight and narrow and twisting because they were designed in the middle ages when towns were built within the confines of castle walls so that they could more easily be defended from rival kingdoms. America did not have that problem.
good I love driving my own car and not using public transit
>If you live within a city you dont need a car in the EU.
You do if you have an actual trade job and not some office shitter wage slave.
>muh ancient rome larp
homie, a lot of modern europes road network is based on ancient roman roads. yet europe still lack the giant straight perfect geodesic roads that fill america.
they should have copied the romans harder then. ancient roman urban planners copied military camp design, which meant boxy grids spanning out from a central hub. the typical new ancient city would be a grid spanning out from the central forum area. you see this emulated by the grid that spans out from the courthouse of any american town
>they should have copied the romans harder then
Where do you think rome was? What the frick do you mean copy it harder?
Also town planning isn't a roman invention, Nor were all roman towns perfect grids.
once you embrace the groma, you shall become a true romaboo.
>Where do you think rome was?
Italty. Most of you pathetic Euros were peasants and slaves to an empire that had nothing to do with you outside of fricking up their language (French). Literally "muh ancestor" syndrome incarnate. Very sad.
Exactly, which makes excusing american car culture by invoking "muh rome" even more moronic.
It sucks, but we really did have to take up the mantle and lead you world war morons into a new golden age (the 80's and 90s) you're welcome.
And that's why american roads are roman?
Most american cities were built in the 17th-19th century, when western society was deep in the Enlightenment and were deliberately trying to copy Rome. By virtue of the US being built from scratch during that era, it had the luxury if designing its streets from the outset that way rather than trying to modify existing infrastructure to be that way as was happening in Europe during that time.
ewwwwwww, its like living in a communist computer.
>>but nooo mutts are too moronic to deal with a simple asphalt circle
Where are you at? Plenty of round-a-bouts in NorCal
american trucks are weak trash. ugly too.
Yeah the Euro cabovers are cooler imo. They are way more dangerous for the driver though
Can you pick up truck stop prostitutes in this game? If not, unrealistic
I'm patiently waiting for them to add GA for me to give a frick.
A black guy made that, didn't he
it literally doesn't matter because all vehicles in any given game use the same physics file.
besides bullet physics engine is fricking garbage, and SCS are bunch of money grubbing mountain israelites
>thread about truck games
>euros immediately barge in and vomit their insecurity all over the place
ets is a more fun game though, and clearly the main focus of SCS
>Ask why nobody wants to play ATS
>People say they dont like American roads
>AHHH EUROPEAN INFERIORITY COMPLEX
ATS is too comfy makes me fall asleep every time
is it really that boring?
For older maps yes, new maps are much better
I'd prefer this, thanks.
>Vigilante 8
Super Fantastic Death Ray or I brake.
>muh roads
I thought the point of these "games" was to turn on the radio and chill while driving from A to B.
Speaking of radio, anyone know a mod that auto changes the radio station to whatever country/region you are in?
Maybe this
https://github.com/Koenvh1/ets2-local-radio
Perfect thanks
can someone explain why the actual frick people play this shit instead of just becoming actual truckers? such a damn waste of time when you could just become a trucker for real and ACTUALLY drive a truck and make money as well
Because it lets me visit places I would otherwise never see, in $150k trucks i'll never get to drive, and driving through a virtual version of your home state is an interesting experience
driving a truck irl isn't that easy anon
I used to think the same until I actually gave it a shot. Mind you I only played it for like a week and never touched again but found it extremely comfy, now I can see why it's popular.
>montana 11.99
>oregon 11.99
>oklahoma 11.99
>new mexico 11.99
>idaho 11.99
>colorado 11.99
>washington 11.99
>texas 17.99
>arizona free
>wyoming 11.99
>utah 11.99
>total 125.90
>by default you only get three states for free (cali, nevada, and arizona)
>if you buy wyoming, montana, texas, oklahoma, colorado or washington, you need to buy at least one connecting state unless you want to teleport between cali and those states, which takes the fun out of it and reduces your earnings because you can't take longer runs for better pay
>they're making nebraska, akansas and missouri
>if they eventually do the entire continental USA, you'll probably pay upwards of 200 - 300 dollars on map packs alone
trucking is a dogshit occupation. take it from me, I am one.
Truckers are modern day cowboys, and their routes are like a cattle drive. You need a particular mindset to find enjoyment in longhaul travel, just like how in 1870 only a certain sort of man could enjoy living off chuckwagon chilli and sleeping in the dirt for weeks on end.
>You need a particular mindset to find enjoyment in longhaul travel
that's not the problem. the problem is the industry is dogshit. highly exploitative. you work long hours (70 hour weeks are the norm), you get shit pay (maybe if you're lucky you're touching somewhere at 90-100k, but most drivers are earning lower than that, in the 50-60k range), you're away from home for months at a time, and you're fricked with by the DOT, dispatchers, load brokers, shippers and receivers, truck stop employees, other truckers, the general motoring public, and even the fricking weather. when you become a long haul trucker, unless you own your own truck and run as an owner op, you're expected to basically live in that truck. nobody, and I mean nobody, not even formerly destitute homeless druggies and convicts, wants to live in a truck for longer than they have to, and these carriers expect 100% performance out of you every day. hell, even owner ops need to live in their trucks if their profit margins start to dwindle, and it's not uncommon to see homosexuals out here go broke because everything is so expensive.
not only that, living on the road sucks. you eat shit food, get no exercise, and shit in public restrooms. sometimes you go days without showering because you need to make that on time delivery, you sleep in piss filled parking lots, you're harassed by homeless and other lowlifes for money, and it's basically a miserable fricking life.
not saying it doesn't have upsides, and yeah you can do local work, but generally speaking, OTR is shit.
I was more speaking in the abstract.
I have family members who have been in trucking since the 1960s, so I know how bad the industry has gotten. Being an owner-operator sounds like the perfect job for hikki-neets. I've had my own fantasies of driving a 2 stroke Detroit through the mountains.
I think I'd like it a lot more if I could be my own boss, but it's hard being an owner operator. first, trucks are expensive, even used, and if you gamble on something used, good luck. however, if you're smart, you pay off a truck right away and just hit the load board, or lease on with a company, and you can make pretty decent cash working on your own terms as a 1099 independent contractor.
honestly, I'd rather be a WFH software developer who gets to wake up at noon, hit the gym, go out for dinner in the evenings, have a social life, etc. while making 80k a year or more.
<3 Fren it sounds like trucking is awful but truthfully the entire world|goes for ships too would immediately cease if you all stopped. <(^-^<) Honestly, you all are awesome to me.
are you moronic?
>only covers the western 11
>you have to pay more than 11 smackers if you don't want to be stuck in california at 55mph
>it takes 15 minutes to get from longview, texas to san jose, california
this is why.
American roads are the most boring places to drive bro
Europe has like 20 different countries.
And they all look exactly the same
>village
>farmland
>evergreen forest
From England to Russia, that's what all of Europe looks like.
I haven't played ETS in years since my wheel broke
playing driving simulators on a keyboard is too fricking weird
euro trucks are so gay I'd never drive one.
Proper vr support when?
It already has good vr support, using motion controls to hold an imaginary steering wheel would feel weird AF and suck ass.
i just wish they'd make the earlier regions look as nice as the newer ones on ETS
World Truck Sim when?
Euro trucks are more powerful. Simple as. Also I imagine there's an expectation that Europe has more varied environments but I understand that's not the case, at least as far as these games go
>Also I imagine there's an expectation that Europe has more varied environments
for awhile they were both fun to play because euro had the cool forests, alps, etc. and american had the huge wide open deserts but both games have so many counties and states now that you get good variation in both especially after euro finally added iberia and american expanded into pac northwest and into the midwest. both games do small towns pretty well now.
does anyone use the eye tracker thing?
it seems like a nice addition to have but not sure if its worth the $300 price tag
for 300 you're already well on the way to getting a multi monitor setup. if the tracker was cheaper, then maybe.
Not for $300, you could buy an hp reverb or Quest 2 for that price
>why do most people prefer ETS over ATS?
i like ets because its a little more difficult, and you have to reverse trailers into much narrower and confined spaces and make tighter turns. ets has more little bits of interactivity like toll stops, border checkpoints, and ferries as well. ets being the more mature (development wise) means it also has a more expansive road network so when run into things like diversions you don't have to drive to another state to back where you need to go. i like the trucks more as well, they have more customization points for more parts.
These games are way too fricking expensive.
It's all part of a simulator
Driving real truck isn't that cheap either
buy them in season sale. they do special starter bundles where you can get the base game and 4 or 5 countries/states for a huge discount.
They go 75% off every major sale, anon.
just pirate it
online is not necessary
Remember to piss into the bottles for the true Trucker Experience
Europe is more interesting to drive around.
where do you like trucking anon?
honk honk
trucker lads, where you at right now?
how do you get all that extra dashboard stuff
I went to the SCS headquarters and gave the whole dev team a blowjob
mods of course. cabin addons is probably one of the most popular things you can get.
ATS is like 3 years newer has less roads and has less mods.
I play both games, both games are fun, I wish that they merge them into one game, that way I don't have to open a different game if I want to drive in a different continent
I guess Europe is just more interesting to truck around than the US. Isn't like 60% of the US just a big flat desert?
In Europe you got mountain ranges and shiet.
fetch quest THE GAME
literally all you do is drive from point A to point B.
why do people like this again?
you wouldn't get it, you're not white
I'm brown and enjoy ATS. Cargo and passenger missions are also my preferred missions in Elite Dangerous.
honorary white
driving big truck is fun
>three hour podcast/debate between talking bobble head A and talking bobble head B
>throw on ATS and cruise around
>not even pulling freight because you've got a fleet of NPC drivers who earn money for you
peak comfy.
Oh good its a death stranding thread, think Kojimbo will collab with kenworth and put big fricking 53' footers in part 2? Or will we have to suffer with that shit ev keitruck again?
I just play it if I want to do something with my hands but don't want to have to pay attention
Europe > usa
me love logging, me love trucks
based
I know that in australia they have 8x6 volvos and Scanias, I really want an australia DLC with australian variants of trucks, I also really want more logging roads, and I want longer logging/offroad roads, I love offroading in ATS/ETS2
I am still waiting on some spintires / snow runner esque logging game in some tropical hellhole
australia DLC, logging is a pretty big thing in australia, we need australia DLC, they need to hire that rob guy who's making an australia mod
>turn headlights on for a few seconds
>get fined
frick off
use automatic headdlights, leave them on, or just turn off infractions. simple as.
all i want is weathering/mud/dirt on trucks, that's all
frick these truck brands not wanting that shiet
they don't even have exhaust smoke right now
oh shit thats true
Also on that note I have both ETS|ATS and plan on getting that train sim--even if it is just parts of the US, no west coast no B and O, I dunno if it even has Appalachian Meowntains but I still like it D:
I thought ETS2 would be mega autismo but you can just ignore axles, torque and weighing, also if there was any game which needed its own supply and demand economy, it's this one.
This game has good dev support but the updates are lazy, 2 main roads which connect and several rural roads for each map addition. Sometimes locals critique the road maps as weirdly inaccurate.
Snow Runner is much more fun.
Hate how the Spintyres offshoots all have awful simulations of the actual mechanical function of their trucks. Full throttle in top gear and you're doing maybe 20mph. No simulation of actual gearboxes or transfercases. Just suspension and nothing else
They're both DLCslop and ETS had more DLCs
real truck stops when? I noticed that some of the truck stops in the game are based on actual truck stops in real life, but they're just a fictional truck stop name.
>tfw the gas station parked trucks mod went out of date long time ago
it was one of the best mods ever
>but they're just a fictional truck stop name.
isn't there realism mods for that like ets?
Way older and way more content. ATS doesn't even have half of the states yet and they're already going back and "reworking" the older shit.
>northern Scandinavia after Greece
gonna be /comfy/
i really hope they do snow up in northern norway, sweden, etc. the winter wonderland mini map really felt like a preview of what's possible.
They've pretty much confirmed that the Winterland was a public test for it.
what's the cheapest you can get ATS and all the states for?
$0
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For me, it's this ugly motherfricker
for me, it's this big box
that is my preferred ETS mobile cause it had the biggest engine at one point
post your in game trucks
>he drives a rebadged volvo
unfortunately I deleted my screenshots folder that would have totally dabbed on your truck