Why do people act like this was some huge beloved hit originally?
Nobody gave a FRICK about this game until VII came out and they needed to be contrarian to new popular thing
>In the United States [...] it was not a commercial success in that region, according to Sakaguchi.As of March 31, 2003, the game had shipped 3.48 million copies worldwide, with 2.62 million of those copies being shipped in Japan and 860,000 abroad.
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>play game
>like it
tfw contrarian
this might blow your mind but worldwide people who play videogames are a minority. Out of 8 billion people the most any game has been played by is about a billion if you're willing to assume that every download of pubg is a unique user, which is obviously not true. So is not exaggeration to say less than 1/8 people have ever spent any significant amount of time playing a videogame. 30 years ago, it would have been 1/1000, the same incidence of say, intersexuality or cluster headaches. 1/100th as many as there are homosexuals. 1/2 of the total amount of israelites in the world at that time.
also a lot of people who played it did so on pc emulators at a later date
zoomers genuinely cannot picture a world pre-"geek is chic" era it's all they've ever known
You mean pre- broad band internet? These kids can't fathom maintaining interest in a thing that doesn't have dedicated youtube content creators and livestreams associated with it.
Saw a dude shocked by a gamefaqs non html FAQ with no pictures or clickable links.
Their attention spans are just shot. They where the generation raised on mommies ipads. Like frick all I had was a TV and a N64 but at least I had to read and throw my head against Ocarina of Time inorder to beat it. Kids today just drop whatever it is if it gets to much for them and move on to the next thing. Theres hundreds of free games like Fortnite or Apex that have constant season rotation of "limited" time cosmetics that fight for their attention. And that's just on the gaming front.
That's not true at all. It was one of the most popular console games of the 90s snes era. I know because I'm old as frick and was there.
It wasn't a top 10 seller among console games in the US in 1994 or 1995, and it skipped Europe entirely. Its sales were carried by Japan.
and yet it was constantly rented out at Blockbuster. all 4 copies.
That was huge for a pre-VII RPG and as usual, discounted widespread western rentals. Don't be stupid.
born 81 here
at least 3 of my middle school friends and i all bought the game and loved it.
cope and seethe
We're the same age, and my experience is similar to yours. I had a copy, as did a number of friends, and the ones that didn't would camp on the rentals. Same with Chrono Trigger.
dumb zoomer
Normies didn't play RPGs back when FF6 came out. It was a hit for a niche genre but it was FF7 that made Final Fantasy a household name.
Born in '83 here. Got it the Christmas after it came out. Was one of my favorites for the SNES. But that was before tech nerds could expect bloated 6-figure salaries just to remote in and do a few hours of work a week, so it wasn't cool yet to be a geek.
FF7 was next level and I doubt there will ever be anything again like it but I understand why people hate on it because it has without question the most annoying fandumb in all video games, and that's really saying something
>argumentum ad populum
every time with you moronic children
But that's not what an ad populum is you fricking moron
>not enough people liked it
>therefore it is bad
>argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people")[1] is a fallacious argument which is based on claiming a truth or affirming something is good because the majority thinks so.[2]
ok
We need a new term for specifically sales-based fallacy arguments.
>argumentum ad jerusalem
That's such a lie. I used to rent this game all the time back before FFVII even came out. Everyone talked about it at school and sheit. moronic Black person.
tell me you are a zoomer without telling me you are a zoomer.
I played FF1, FF2/4, and FF3/6 all in the '90s before FF7. I remember not playing JRPGs for a few years in the mid '90s until a friend shilled FF6 to me and basically forced me into borrowing his copy around 1996, when it was relatively old, and that ended up hyping me up for FF7 after I finished it.
Many videogames you have heard of were "popular" back then with videogame people without breaking a million sales because the playerbase was small and a niche genre might be even smaller than that. The development costs on these games were small enough that it was still economical.
>Nobody gave a FRICK about this game until VII came out and they needed to be contrarian to new popular thing
As a kid I was obsessed with both SNES Final Fantasy games. When I saw VII I was just so put off by the ugly 3D. I still haven't finished it. I also bought my games used as a poor kid, so my love for those games was never captured in a survey.
this show that sales expectations from square were moronicly high from the begin
For a JRPG released in the mid-90s, it was highly successful in the international market. It may not have been a substantial contributor to sales of new copies for Square, but what nobody in the US really gave a frick about were JRPGs in general rather than VI/III in particular. A lot of the early fans were exposed to it by rentals or the secondhand marketplace.
I suspect that Sakaguchi, and other Japanese developers, overlook this because game rentals are (or at least were) illegal in Japan but they were a huge source of sleeper success in other countries. When the game came out, I was just old enough to be attaining basic literacy and didn't have a relationship with the genre but I distinctly remember that the rental stores in my neighborhood were constantly out of their copies of FFVI/III in its launch year. I didn't grow up in a major city with a dense population and a household name, either.
It's true that self-styled alpha geeks started pedestalizing this game after VII came out to elevate themselves above the more common dross and entryists as is typical of nerd culture, but that didn't really become noticeable until the early 00s when gamers where put off by the absolutely insane and creepy internet fandom for VII that exploded on the contemporary web and persisted in its obsession with the sustenance of the Compilation content. Even before that, however, VI/III was very popular among anyone interested in CRPGs at all. I can't remember a single print magazine, including low budget fan projects, that wasn't covering it.
It's true. FF7 has the absolute worse fandumb in all of gaming, and I say that as a person who absolutely loved FF7 and had my mind absolutely blown in 97 when I bought it for the PSX
I owned 4 and 6 on SNES cartridge growing up but always felt that FF6 contrarian-posting was just a subset of those same emo homosexuals trying to be snowflakes even though it is also one of my all time favorites it made me realize that there's just something about Final Fantasy that attracts the worst kind of gamer. The only thing worse than 6 and 7 fans are 8 fans because they're all moronic Zoomers with nostalgia goggles
Me, I hate 9 fans the most
The way they did SD in that game makes me nauseous
The Pokemon fandom is, and forever will be, the worst fandom in gaming.
Final homosexual 14's fandom is worse.
The worst of the FFXIV fanbase crosses over a lot with Pokemon. They're the same people.
If you were alive at the time you would know that video games were not popular like they are now and RPGs were very unpopular. Those of us who liked them felt very excited and grateful for this game. You wouldn't know that though because you are a child with a child's understanding of a world that existed before you.
It's grown to be very appreciated. Also, I really have noticed that people don't have a great sense of the state of JRPGs in the West before FF. I was basically a weirdo for playing JRPGs for the SNES at release.
i love these moronic theories you kids come up with when you look at the past. rpgs were for rpg fans back then, anon.
Video games weren’t mass marketed back then especially in the snes days. There were magazines but I found out about most games through word of mouth. In any event using sales metrics to determine the quality of a game is a very zoomer thing to do.
A few things to keep in mind.
1. It got three months worth of favorable coverage in Nintendo Power, and every other magazine at the time gushed about it as well. Even if you didn't get to play it, the overwhelming message was that you OUGHT to.
2. Why wouldn't you get to play it? Well, the mid-90s saw a price gouging of cartridge games and of RPGs in particular. When Super Metroid and Sonic 3 were going for $55-65, FF3 and Phantasy Star IV were in the $80-95 range, and that was a harder sell for a kid to ask their parents (or grandparents) for, or come up with the money themselves. The worst scenario was that you'd save up the money only to find that your local store had already sold through the two copies they had.
3. So until emulators became reliable enough, your best options were to find a Blockbuster (or something like it) and hope nobody else erased your save in between rentals, or to find those handful of kids who actually DID have the games and ask to borrow it when they were done.
tl,dr - lots of kids were just getting interested in RPGs and thought highly of the game even if they couldn't buy it themselves. Part of FF7's widespread success was that it was cheaper to buy (once you had the system, at least) and easier to find.
Hyjacking thread, should I emulate FF6 for first time playrhough (and if so what version to emulate) or play steam remake?
what's the best verison to play? Thanks
First time? SNES version or the GBA version with the sound fix. Somewhat different translations between the two but for your first time it shouldn't make a huge difference. I can't comment on the Pixel Remaster but the FF Anthology version should be avoided. Loadtimes and 'off' music with no upside.
SNES version, either emulated or with og hardware. don't play the gba version, don't play any of the other remasters or ports. if you don't like something in the snes version, there will be a patch to change it.