Why do people never talk about the Platinum - HGSS battle frontier?

Why do people never talk about the Platinum - HGSS battle frontier?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody did it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did a few rounds, the AI cheats and the only reason to do it is for the rewards, which are only useful for online. So it is worthless because competitive kids just hack their pokemon anyway.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the AI cheats
        No it doesn't
        I had worse luck in SV raids and online battles than I had in my entire journey of getting all gold Hoenn BF symbols except Factory

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the ai doesn't cheat
          >literally puts teams specifically designed to counter you
          >MMMM SWEATY YOU ARE JUST BAD AT THE GAME, THE AI DOESN'T MAKE EXACTLY THE SHIT TO KILL YOU, SKILL LE ISSUE
          kys

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >puts teams specifically designed to counter you
            You are just a schizo who sucks at the game, simple as.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              trips of truth

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah 32, cosmos is always based and says the truth. fuck the boomers, lol give me replies, or my parents will disown me like they should.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Hoeen version was better
    >more people played DP than Platiniim and DP was too lazy too have it
    >HGSS is associated with pokethalon instead since that’s unique to it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is the Hoenn one better? The Battle Arena and the Battle Palace are easily the worst facilities out of both of the frontiers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How is the Hoenn one better?
        it has 6 unique facilities instead of "battle tower but easier" repeated 3 times

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dome, Arena, and Pike are all Battle Tower but easier. Pyramid also allows items in battle. Emerald's Frontier also doesn't allow pokemon with a higher level than 50 to participate in level 50 mode, which alone should disqualify it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Dome, Arena, and Pike are all Battle Tower but easier
            Arena and Pike both have gimmicks that make them play completely differently from the Battle Tower.

            >Pyramid also allows items in battle
            Yes, because you don't get healed every battle and you have to find the items yourself.

            >Emerald's Frontier also doesn't allow pokemon with a higher level than 50 to participate in level 50 mode
            so?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pike is all about skipping fights and the only thing about Arena that's really different is not allowing switching.
              >Yes, because you don't get healed every battle and you have to find the items yourself.
              Doesn't stop it from removing all difficulty.
              >so?
              What if I want to use my level 51 Swampert?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Level it up to level 60

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Pike is all about skipping fights and the only thing about Arena that's really different is not allowing switching.
                you didn't play the game

                >Doesn't stop it from removing all difficulty.
                you didn't play the game

                >What if I want to use my level 51 Swampert?
                you didn't play the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You use the hint feature in Pike to determine which room likely doesn't have a trainer battle.
                Arena's point system likely won't screw you unless you run into some stall shit. Otherwise it plays exactly like the Tower only that you can't switch.
                Spamming hyper potions against Brandon is easy yes.
                Why wouldn't I want to use my Swampert?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gay

                Level it up to level 60

                >Pike is all about skipping fights and the only thing about Arena that's really different is not allowing switching.
                you didn't play the game

                >Doesn't stop it from removing all difficulty.
                you didn't play the game

                >What if I want to use my level 51 Swampert?
                you didn't play the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not an argument.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Battle Arena is actually fun, though. Only the Palace is bullshit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Battle Arena
        >Bad
        t. stall player
        Pike and Pyramid alone blow the Sinnoh battle frontier out of the water

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pyramid sure but Pike? That's just bullshit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pike is fun as fuck. Lucy is also quite easy, her Gold Symbol probably even more so. You can't really complain about bad luck when it's that easy
            The random trainers, the random heals, it's fun as fuck

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because nobody actually cares about the BF. The majority of players never touched or even got anywhere close to beating it, and people constantly cried about it being unfair, hax, unfun and frustrating back in the day. Yet now that it's gone everyone suddenly pretends they actually liked it all along

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But nobody pretends to like the Platinum Battle Frontier even today. It's like it never existed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probable because the facilities are less creative/unique than Emerald's

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did, I actually like the challenge because it's more difficult than the maingame trainers while simultaneously free of Smogon's metagame

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Personally, I think it's a bit of a shame to make getting viable mons more accessible and then to completely remove battle facilities other than the battle tower (which SV doesn't even have)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people want end game content, and you basically scream
      NO GAME FREK DO LESS WORK AND SELL ME A GAME THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO, SO YOU CAN STILL GRAB MY MONEY ANYWAY, PLEASE BECOME RICHER FOR NO EFFORT
      This is why people want to nuke you from the planet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >people want end game content,
        end game content that they don't actually play and only pretend to like to show off their ebin "my game has a lot of postgame" checklists on reddit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hello discord
          when the anons post their fully completed battle facilities you are casually never n those threads. hows life in brazil? same for the ones who show their completed trainer cards.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Of course I'm never in threads that don't actually exist.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >puts teams specifically designed to counter you
              You are just a schizo who sucks at the game, simple as.

              that strong smell of shiposting discord kids.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah 32, cosmos is always based and says the truth. fuck the boomers, lol give me replies, or my parents will disown me like they should.

                based schizo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >US discord raiders don't exist

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                looks like you should go back then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >UH YOU HAVE EVIDENCE? THEN YOU ARE ONE OF THEM, SWEATY
                More audacious arguments from a 12 year old? this board is 18+, child.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what evidence you dumb schizo moron lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how is that related to this thread, you stupid triple moron
                exists therefore you MUST be from there!
                >lol wtf proofs?
                schizo garbage.png
                you are retarded beyond belief

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                shut up discord chud
                you post the same with the same shitty underaged words and arguments that they use
                playing insanity an spouting le meds meme won't make it not obvious you are one of them

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay triple moron, you sure are a detective

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is from like 2 years ago
                Absolutely rent-free lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cosmos literally posts in an active discord vp server still.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only people who care about the battle frontier are either hoennbabs still malding over ORAS or "more=betrar" autists who prefer hoenn's frontier simply because it has more facilities, even though most of them are unfun RNG garbage

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because battle frontiers are boring as fuck

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You 're kidding me; It's the best thing about Platinum. I can't wait to finish the game just for that. If only the fourth generation ran faster. Imagine Battle Frontier in BW...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bait

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OP is bait

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i played through the battle arcade obsessively growing up though i don't remember if i got both prints or just silver

      bf in bw would be great, it'd be nice if ds romhacking was advance enough that people could recreate it

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only the Battle Tower and Battle Factory are actually good. The rest is gimmicky bullshit that's not actually fun to play

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Battle Tower is shit tho

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Battle hall is great fuck you cunt

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Battle Maison was much better anyway

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Normal battle facilities are boring as shit, but Arcade and Hall are both great. I don't have much reverence for Emerald frontier because it's mostly boring except for Pike and Pyramid.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Battle Arcade was great. Had the hottest frontier brain.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lucy mogs her

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Dahlia is underrated.
      Caitlin is also underrated, but she wouldn't become a treasure until Gen 5.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i swear i remember when I first played the B/W elite 4, i barely remembered who caitlin was, but it clicked in a few moments later. im glad that GF took that angle at least, makes the world feel that much more connected.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hgss had a battle frontier???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Crystal was the first game to have a battle tower, so it makes sense for HGSS to include an upgraded version of it, but Game Freak can't so anything right so they just put use the same Battle Frontier that was in Platinum.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how dare you include more than just the battle tower
        Damn anon, bet you must love the low content games we get nowadays, huh?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't have to literally copy-paste the exct thing from another game, (Though maybe you could argue that both games were being made at the same and Platinum was just lucky to come out first). But its still weird, how does it even work in universe? Did they literally take the battle frontier and push it some were else?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It does not make any sense for the games to have different Battle Towers either. And now you can do multiplayer between Pt and HGSS (even DP if it's just the Tower). It's not like HGSS was skimping out of original content either.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one likes battle facilities, they just like to complain when they're not there.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There's nothing like the Battle Pyramid or Pike which made the facilities feel like an extra, more challenging Gym puzzle.
    >Didn't even get an anime arc like the original.
    >Symbols are 7 extra badges from Elite 4/Champion level trainers and Prints are lame Willy Wonka cease and desist material.
    Simple as

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    from now on if any of you fuckers complain about missing the BF i'm going to insist that you show me your frontier pass with at least all silver symbols/prints earned

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because it's fucking trash compared to the gen 3 one and most people didn't play the BF to begin with.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Battle Dome was the best facility, should have replace the tower clones since it's inception

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of the most hype themes in pokemon, pair that with battling in front of the crowd, it was so good

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are we really gonna count that mobage-tier battle palace as facility

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are we really gonna count "battle tower except you spin a roulette that gives you a free advantage before the battle starts" as a facility
      are we really gonna count "battle tower except you can see the opponent's team and easily skip a bunch of battles" as a facility

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, we are.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GOATed theme music next to Cynthia's ngl, absolute SOVL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KINO as fuck

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nostalgiafags sucking off Emerald.
    Arena is shit, Dome is gay, Pyramid is AIDS and Palace is undefendable.
    /thread

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fucking loved 4th gen BF (never played Emerald). Put hundreds of hours into it, it's such a unique way to play the game against computer that actually takes skill while still being casual enough you can do at least silver medals with your ingame favourite Pokémon.

    In my opinion it's the best part to ever exist in the mainline games. GF should at least bring back Factory along with the Tower.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also another important factor for BF is that it makes the whole other game better as a whole. It's so much more satisfying collecting and training Pokémon when there's something exciting to use them for besides PvP and Tower.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not as unique as the Emerald Battle Frontier. In Emerald, you had entire challenges that changed how you battle (Arena, Palace, Pike, Dome to an extent) or you had challenges that weren't just battling (Pyramid, Pike). In contrast, Sinnoh's Frontier was mainly just 'Battle Tower but x' and x is just one word:
    >Castle: Battle Tower but currency
    >Arcade: Battle Tower but roulette
    >Factory: Battle Tower but rental
    Hall is unique enough, and the Battle Tower here isn't bad.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Emerald battle frontier had more facilities. Platinum and HGSS battle frontier are also the same one just like the ORAS and XY maison. So it feels less special.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone tested the facilities to see how rigged it is?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Since you don't battle actual people, and they cannot into advanced strategies such as, you know, switching or predicting properly, BF trainers have boosted critical hits, status effects, accuracy, etc. on top of having perfect IVs, favorable natures and minmaxed EVs after the 49th battle to account for the lack of actual huma thought behind them. It's bullshit but absolutely doable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both Emerald and 4th gen?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not sure about Gen 4

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cannot into advanced strategies, such as, you know, switching or predicting properly
        Pretty sure the AI can switch to get type advantage

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They can switch, but they only do it when it's the most obvious shit and sometimes not even that. For instance, when faced against a Swampert, all Anabel's Raikou will do is keep mindlessly spamming Calm Mind even though it only knows Thunderbolt.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No shit it's in Emerald, that's why I didn't list in my reasons Emerald's Frontier was more unique
    also
    >Your points don't matter because poopoo!
    Don't care, still unique enough to keep my interest far much more than Platinum's Frontier did.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The rules aren't as strong.

    >Battle Hall
    So you fight 1v1 matches against low level AI until you hit Rank 10 on each type. Winning battles with your one favorite Pokemon sounds cool, but the gameplay isn't the most engaging thing.
    >Battle Castle
    Mostly standard battles, but you have to pay for healing and held items. Earn enough Castle Points and you can just skip matches altogether.
    >Battle Arcade
    Roulette gives you random bonuses or debuffs. Your mileage may vary, some people hate hax enough as it is.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know Battle Factory was in emerald, but I didn't have emerald. So when I got to the frontier in Platinum I loved it and still play it to this day. Battle Factory (open) is my fav facility.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wish i could play the emerald battle frontier but i'm way too lazy to go back and play emerald.

    platinum had it down pat. good frontier, good gimmicks, and really pressured you to do well.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HGSS/Platinum Battle frontier is the actual best because it had online coop, and the fact that people don't talk about the return of online coop in battle facilities is the biggest crime the series has ever fucking had. I don't give a shit what anyone else says.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it was shit. As watered-down from Emerald as the Battle Maison was. It's just because zoomers grew up with gen 4, it's ok when DS games do it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think I'd actually unironically rather have the battle maison over the gen 4 bf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Palace is the worst facility in the franchise.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just use a Bold Milotic with toxic, recover and leftovers and it will absolutely destroy everything there. Whenever it gets hurt it just heals back again instinctively, toxic just needs to land once, maybe twice and even Toxic immunity doesn't save them from surf/ice beam eventually.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Emerald sucks too, and it is just because you are a hoenn baby that it is ok, hypocrite.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cringe

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They do, at least when it comes to it being left out of BDSP. It's one of the primary complaints.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not nearly as much as with ORAS, in fact most of the criticism isn't even specifically about the BF itself and that simply falls into the broader umbrella of not being like Platinum as a whole, but the BF itself takes very little focus in BDSP discussion
      there's even quite a few sinnohfetus shills claiming it's perfect the way it is, although they mostly focus on shilling PLA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not nearly as much as with ORAS, in fact most of the criticism isn't even specifically about the BF itself and that simply falls into the broader umbrella of not being like Platinum as a whole, but the BF itself takes very little focus in BDSP discussion
      there's even quite a few sinnohfetus shills claiming it's perfect the way it is, although they mostly focus on shilling PLA

      Its omission from ORAS was so cataclysmic for me that I disregarded that game's postgame content entirely, even though there was an entire system for secret bases that could act as an eReader card substitution, which I would have loved. It also was the definitive game for Triple Battles, and you better believe that I did not play the Battle Maison since it was a copy-paste from XY.

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