>the guy who openly said focus has shifted to consoles since more games sell there, working under a company desperately trying to shill people consoles and get them on game pass subscriptions
the bias is clear as day, pcs have never been more compatible and streamlined but corpos still don't appreciate the user freedom and control they offer and come up with any number of absurd smooth brain opinions to justify that attitude
and why his statement on this particular matter has rubberbanded back and forth, he's wrong though, my PC is barely better than a PS5 but performs twice as well as it by running games at 60fps where the PS5 barely holds 30 in many games. the comparison is flawed and doesn't account for the fact that there are people who know how to program games for PC and they utilize the hardware as efficiently as possible, it being a locked down console or a PC makes 0 difference at that point.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>PS5 barely holds 30 in many games.
Just cause a game was internally capped at 30 doesn't mean your PC is stronger moron
8 months ago
Anonymous
If it was capped at 30 when the hardware could manage consistent 60 then the devs should be shot
8 months ago
Anonymous
a 3060 12gb, i5 13400f and 32gb 5600mhz ddr5 ram with an nvme ssd is more powerful than a ps5
>meme technology only used by a handful of autists >still shit and irrelevant after 10+ years of investment and development
enjoy your permanent vision damage lmao
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah im sure stilling in front of your computer didnt damage your eyes right?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not gonna happen as long as you're not moronic and take regular breaks. VR on the other hand, you're literally strapping a screen to your face at a distance your eyes aren't designed to look at.
You're also excluding the fact that he's had a heavy influence on graphics programming since the beginning. A lot of the techniques he developed for id games went out to be widely used.
>the guy who openly said focus has shifted to consoles since more games sell there, working under a company desperately trying to shill people consoles and get them on game pass subscriptions
the bias is clear as day, pcs have never been more compatible and streamlined but corpos still don't appreciate the user freedom and control they offer and come up with any number of absurd smooth brain opinions to justify that attitude
No, Carmack is actually right. First key word is "comparable." He is obviously not implying that a mid-high end PC is somehow worse than a console. What he's stating is that a PC running the same or comparable hardware to a console will run the same games at a lower frame rate with worse graphics settings, and that is absolutely true. Dedicated hardware like in a console is always going to be able to do more than generalist hardware like in a PC. It's a calculated trade off. A console is really, really fricking optimized for playing games on it's hardware and not doing much else. A PC is optimized for doing all kinds of tasks (including playing games) but will end up using more operating time and power on background shit than a console.
Put another way, a console is optimized to give the most gaming performance for it's price point, but it can't really do anything other than play games (and peripheral shit like stream movies or whatever). A PC has more choice and freedom in how you use it, but it's actual game performance will be comparatively worse.
Your several thousand dollar mid-high end PC WILL run better, but you are also paying significantly more for that ability.
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No, Carmack is actually right. First key word is "comparable." He is obviously not implying that a mid-high end PC is somehow worse than a console. What he's stating is that a PC running the same or comparable hardware to a console will run the same games at a lower frame rate with worse graphics settings, and that is absolutely true. Dedicated hardware like in a console is always going to be able to do more than generalist hardware like in a PC. It's a calculated trade off. A console is really, really fricking optimized for playing games on it's hardware and not doing much else. A PC is optimized for doing all kinds of tasks (including playing games) but will end up using more operating time and power on background shit than a console.
Put another way, a console is optimized to give the most gaming performance for it's price point, but it can't really do anything other than play games (and peripheral shit like stream movies or whatever). A PC has more choice and freedom in how you use it, but it's actual game performance will be comparatively worse.
Your several thousand dollar mid-high end PC WILL run better, but you are also paying significantly more for that ability.
It was true in 2011. Vulkan didn't exist back then and consoles weren't on the same hardware as an AMD PC.
Because games have branched out from just being about gameplay, in order to stroke the egos of pretentious writers who think they can tell a good story through videogames, and to appeal to normies and women who cant get into gameplay and need stories in their games.
its not important in games like mario kart or super smash bros
in basically any other game a good story only enhances the experience
hell, even if you have to go out of your way to find the story
that feeling of seeing that the villain isnt just a generic evil guy who does bad things to be bad, or that the world you explore actually has a backstory, is always some of my most memorable experience in any game for me
Because its an outdated stance. If every game had the exact same quality gameplay, then the one with a more appealing aesthetic, characters, and story/world will still win because those other aspects ARE important no matter how much gameplay only gays try to downplay them.
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Remind me again why Deus Ex is still relevant to this date?
its not important in games like mario kart or super smash bros
in basically any other game a good story only enhances the experience
hell, even if you have to go out of your way to find the story
that feeling of seeing that the villain isnt just a generic evil guy who does bad things to be bad, or that the world you explore actually has a backstory, is always some of my most memorable experience in any game for me
>uses porn analogy >thinks that he should've broken Quake into two different games, the first with the multiplayer networking and then the fully 3D game later
This guy had lightning in a bottle with Doom 1 and made a career out of that. He's wrong about so many things
Because its an outdated stance. If every game had the exact same quality gameplay, then the one with a more appealing aesthetic, characters, and story/world will still win because those other aspects ARE important no matter how much gameplay only gays try to downplay them.
A bunch of slop consumers will cope in the replies here.
He is right, the only thing that actually matters for a game is gameplay.
Otherwise you are watching a film or reading a book, not playing a game.
This is as moronic and limiting as saying only story matters in a video game.
There can be games that focus on story.
There can be games that focus on gameplay.
Not every game needs to be some kind of identical, ultra-refined symbiosis of story and gameplay.
lol seriously just think of even the more gameplay oriented games out there popular to Ganker. Do you think people would care as much about DMC, or Bayonetta if they did not have their characters or aesthetics? Look at Pokemon too. There are tons of people who literally only care about Pokemon, because it's Pokemon and give zero fricks if a different monster raising game is better by some objective measures.
if japanese devs listened to that we'd never have gotten games like ffx, ffxiv, umineko, ever17, or nier automata.
oh no
anyway
Righ, righ, Anon, thank erh...God for them not listening... Of course...
>the story in a game is not important... because it's just not, okay?
Why do PC tards forget this?
that's not even remotely true
Hmmmm who do I trust, the guy who is a programming genius that redefined gaming or you?
>the guy who openly said focus has shifted to consoles since more games sell there, working under a company desperately trying to shill people consoles and get them on game pass subscriptions
the bias is clear as day, pcs have never been more compatible and streamlined but corpos still don't appreciate the user freedom and control they offer and come up with any number of absurd smooth brain opinions to justify that attitude
lol youre delusional, John doesn't care about profits for corporations thats why he moves around to other companies to pursue new passions
and why his statement on this particular matter has rubberbanded back and forth, he's wrong though, my PC is barely better than a PS5 but performs twice as well as it by running games at 60fps where the PS5 barely holds 30 in many games. the comparison is flawed and doesn't account for the fact that there are people who know how to program games for PC and they utilize the hardware as efficiently as possible, it being a locked down console or a PC makes 0 difference at that point.
>PS5 barely holds 30 in many games.
Just cause a game was internally capped at 30 doesn't mean your PC is stronger moron
If it was capped at 30 when the hardware could manage consistent 60 then the devs should be shot
a 3060 12gb, i5 13400f and 32gb 5600mhz ddr5 ram with an nvme ssd is more powerful than a ps5
Sure pal
>A guy who made games for cringe wannabe school shooters in the 90s and literally hasn't been relevant since could never be wrong about anything
>helped develop VR in the early stages
>not relevant
keep seething champ
That was Gabe. And VR isn't relevant.
>early stages
Final stages, it's never taking off
Yeah Ive seen videos where people were saying video games were a fad too 50 years ago
cope harder, it's been 7 fricking years and it still only has tech demos
>meme technology only used by a handful of autists
>still shit and irrelevant after 10+ years of investment and development
enjoy your permanent vision damage lmao
Yeah im sure stilling in front of your computer didnt damage your eyes right?
Not gonna happen as long as you're not moronic and take regular breaks. VR on the other hand, you're literally strapping a screen to your face at a distance your eyes aren't designed to look at.
You're also excluding the fact that he's had a heavy influence on graphics programming since the beginning. A lot of the techniques he developed for id games went out to be widely used.
No, Carmack is actually right. First key word is "comparable." He is obviously not implying that a mid-high end PC is somehow worse than a console. What he's stating is that a PC running the same or comparable hardware to a console will run the same games at a lower frame rate with worse graphics settings, and that is absolutely true. Dedicated hardware like in a console is always going to be able to do more than generalist hardware like in a PC. It's a calculated trade off. A console is really, really fricking optimized for playing games on it's hardware and not doing much else. A PC is optimized for doing all kinds of tasks (including playing games) but will end up using more operating time and power on background shit than a console.
Put another way, a console is optimized to give the most gaming performance for it's price point, but it can't really do anything other than play games (and peripheral shit like stream movies or whatever). A PC has more choice and freedom in how you use it, but it's actual game performance will be comparatively worse.
Your several thousand dollar mid-high end PC WILL run better, but you are also paying significantly more for that ability.
It was true in 2011. Vulkan didn't exist back then and consoles weren't on the same hardware as an AMD PC.
Because Carmack is not a game designer or writer and id went to shit instantly as soon as the other developers left.
Because games have branched out from just being about gameplay, in order to stroke the egos of pretentious writers who think they can tell a good story through videogames, and to appeal to normies and women who cant get into gameplay and need stories in their games.
These
Remind me again why Deus Ex is still relevant to this date?
its not important in games like mario kart or super smash bros
in basically any other game a good story only enhances the experience
hell, even if you have to go out of your way to find the story
that feeling of seeing that the villain isnt just a generic evil guy who does bad things to be bad, or that the world you explore actually has a backstory, is always some of my most memorable experience in any game for me
Context is actually extremely important for porn.
>uses porn analogy
>thinks that he should've broken Quake into two different games, the first with the multiplayer networking and then the fully 3D game later
This guy had lightning in a bottle with Doom 1 and made a career out of that. He's wrong about so many things
Whats the point of playing a game at all if it doesn't have story?
>stopped being relevant when people started expecting stories in their games
hmm...
this quote is completely negated by the fact that many, many people need story to jerk off
one step ahead of you
Yeah let's listen to the guy who only made W+M1: the game
This was the case when the general audience wasn't filled with knuckledraggers who don't have good motor skills.
>proceeds to make Rage
Because its an outdated stance. If every game had the exact same quality gameplay, then the one with a more appealing aesthetic, characters, and story/world will still win because those other aspects ARE important no matter how much gameplay only gays try to downplay them.
Same energy
Yep, and remember that they massively fricking flopped even though the game series was historically popular.
>listening to a robot on advice regarding art
A bunch of slop consumers will cope in the replies here.
He is right, the only thing that actually matters for a game is gameplay.
Otherwise you are watching a film or reading a book, not playing a game.
Story is the only thing that matters, gameplay is often unnecessary.
This is as moronic and limiting as saying only story matters in a video game.
There can be games that focus on story.
There can be games that focus on gameplay.
Not every game needs to be some kind of identical, ultra-refined symbiosis of story and gameplay.
Stop being autistic.
lol seriously just think of even the more gameplay oriented games out there popular to Ganker. Do you think people would care as much about DMC, or Bayonetta if they did not have their characters or aesthetics? Look at Pokemon too. There are tons of people who literally only care about Pokemon, because it's Pokemon and give zero fricks if a different monster raising game is better by some objective measures.
This homie will be forgotten, and that's a good thing.
I like story in my porn. Context and build up can make porn way hotter than it would be otherwise.
Porn videos don't have 40 hours of busy work side quests either.