I stopped giving importance to framerate in games long ago. If it's 60 that's fine, so is 30 too. Even the drops in Earth Defense Force games don't stop me from enjoying them either.
>are you blind?
I can tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps visually. It's just that it doesn't make much a difference to me in practice, especially in anything singleplayer.
I've also been playing enough different games over a long time so that this shit doesn't bother me in the end.
Doesn't really matter to me because I still have my copy of the original but it is pretty pathetic that a remake can't even match the framerate of the original from three generations ago. You'd have to be pretty whipped to defend something like that.
I dunno. Does it matter? It's Paper Mario. I'm not really getting it either way so I don't really care much. But why do you care about the framerate of Paper Mario?
Something that keeps TTYD pretty fun to play as an adult who's good at games is the inclusion of stylish commands and superguard, both which require you to learn invisible timing windows that allow you to both use your star power way more often or nullify damage outright. Superguard especially has a window of around 3/60th of a second (potentially less with the badges that tighten the timing) to pull off with variable attack timing, which is pretty damn hard.
Pretty much any game where tight timing is a key mechanic is less enjoyable at a lower framerate where you have less visual information to go off of. I would say that on its own halving the framerate makes this the inferior version of the game, which isn't what you want for a remake made twenty years later.
no, because it isnt an animation intensive game. you'll never notice it and it will never matter. it they never told you and you never turned on something to measure it, you would never know or notice. you clowns are kidding yourselves.
>you'll never notice it
Get your eyes checked. I played TTYD as a kid, back then, I didn't know what frame rates are and I noticed it being much smoother than the likes of Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion and Ocarina of Time. I only realised it was in 60fps many years later in retrospect.
isn’t the point of consoles that the hardware doesn’t change so developers become more adept and skilled at coding for it overtime? Later releases are supposed to run better and look better than earlier ones, not worse.
okay but like
aren't paper mario games just sprites (sometimes low poly models) in a 3d environment? how is it possible for a game like that to not run at 60 fps
did they write the game in java or something
in this thread? probably
in the wider internet? hell no lol there are a ton of people that will reject legitimate complaints out of hand because criticizing the thing they like or are excited for makes them feel sad or insecure
I got a lot of hate for refusing to buy it at 30 fps. It’s not only a downgrade, but button timing actually matters in a Mario rpg. It’s it was a regular turn based rpg, it wouldn’t matter too much.
>never cared for 30 fps console shit 60 fps is the way to go >happily emulated on my pc >been playing ttyd and enjoying it >I check my dolphin settings and for some reason the default is 30 fps not 60 >i never had the fps counter up so i didn't even realize >i've been playing at 30 fps despite emulating this whole time and didn't even notice it
I did some research and found the problem. I'm playing on a laptop and on laptops when not plugged in, dolphin will automatically lock to 30fps. But I was playing and I even got past the 2nd dungeon inside the tree and never realize I was locked to 30 fps this whole time. Really, what now at this point?
I stopped giving importance to framerate in games long ago. If it's 60 that's fine, so is 30 too. Even the drops in Earth Defense Force games don't stop me from enjoying them either.
are you blind?
>are you blind?
I can tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps visually. It's just that it doesn't make much a difference to me in practice, especially in anything singleplayer.
I've also been playing enough different games over a long time so that this shit doesn't bother me in the end.
30fps is fine stop being such a baby Ericsnoy
>appears to run at 30 fps
>is actually more like 15
must be nice being moronic with no negative perception.
Doesn't really matter to me because I still have my copy of the original but it is pretty pathetic that a remake can't even match the framerate of the original from three generations ago. You'd have to be pretty whipped to defend something like that.
Or I could just not be an autistic baby who whines about every little change in a remake.
Yeah you look real mature there.
I dunno. Does it matter? It's Paper Mario. I'm not really getting it either way so I don't really care much. But why do you care about the framerate of Paper Mario?
It doesn't. This is just the thirdie console war/ containment thread.
because of action commands
see
Something that keeps TTYD pretty fun to play as an adult who's good at games is the inclusion of stylish commands and superguard, both which require you to learn invisible timing windows that allow you to both use your star power way more often or nullify damage outright. Superguard especially has a window of around 3/60th of a second (potentially less with the badges that tighten the timing) to pull off with variable attack timing, which is pretty damn hard.
Pretty much any game where tight timing is a key mechanic is less enjoyable at a lower framerate where you have less visual information to go off of. I would say that on its own halving the framerate makes this the inferior version of the game, which isn't what you want for a remake made twenty years later.
funny that the original on a much weaker system is 60fps but on the more powerful one can't go above 30.
Funny that the old version had less good graphics which is why it could achieve 60fps but you guys love to overlook that
So what are the results and why do I predict that its going to be heavily swayed toward unbothered?
because console loyalists have no standards
pcvegan shut the frick up challenge (impossible)
I said loyalist, not user
this should not be upsetting you unless it describes you
no, because it isnt an animation intensive game. you'll never notice it and it will never matter. it they never told you and you never turned on something to measure it, you would never know or notice. you clowns are kidding yourselves.
and then in a few months you'll be saying "it was noticeable and actually it's a good thing"
If you're used to 60fps games, you immediately notice when a game is 30.
This. 30 is easy on the eyes, 60 is liable to make you physically ill from looking at it.
Tendies now recycling excuses snoys used in the PS3/PS4 era
>you'll never notice it
Get your eyes checked. I played TTYD as a kid, back then, I didn't know what frame rates are and I noticed it being much smoother than the likes of Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion and Ocarina of Time. I only realised it was in 60fps many years later in retrospect.
It matters to the ones who do super guard all the time
I don't care because as early as later this year or next it will be a none issue due to emulation and new Nintendo hardware.
It's a turn based game, it's the one genre I don't need at 60fps
>b-but Action Commands
PM64 ran at 30. It's fine you homosexuals.
>PM64 ran at 30
PMTTYD ran at 60
It's unfortunate the remake is less but it's not a dealbreaker, that's my point.
okay, but you can't sit there and get mad at people for criticizing it
I mean I haven't played this in 20 years but all your moves require timing button presses, right? So having fewer frames is an improvement.
Yeah? Origami King ran at 30. It's not like the Switch has magically become a stronger console since then.
isn’t the point of consoles that the hardware doesn’t change so developers become more adept and skilled at coding for it overtime? Later releases are supposed to run better and look better than earlier ones, not worse.
The point of consoles is to pay less than $2000 for an optimal gaming experience
okay but like
aren't paper mario games just sprites (sometimes low poly models) in a 3d environment? how is it possible for a game like that to not run at 60 fps
did they write the game in java or something
They added a bunch of extra lighting and effects to make it look HD.
Most tendies will vote that they don't care just to not hurt Nintendo's feelings, I guarantee it.
And snoys will vote that it ruins the game just to make Nintendo look bad so it evens out
I bet the switch could emulate the original at 60fps.
I mean, it's unfortunate, but I'm used to nearly every frickin Switch game being 30fps, so whatever.
So every post defending 30fps is a false flag...right?
in this thread? probably
in the wider internet? hell no lol there are a ton of people that will reject legitimate complaints out of hand because criticizing the thing they like or are excited for makes them feel sad or insecure
I got a lot of hate for refusing to buy it at 30 fps. It’s not only a downgrade, but button timing actually matters in a Mario rpg. It’s it was a regular turn based rpg, it wouldn’t matter too much.
>never cared for 30 fps console shit 60 fps is the way to go
>happily emulated on my pc
>been playing ttyd and enjoying it
>I check my dolphin settings and for some reason the default is 30 fps not 60
>i never had the fps counter up so i didn't even realize
>i've been playing at 30 fps despite emulating this whole time and didn't even notice it
Frick. What do I do now Ganker?
Get your eyes checked.
see
Huh...I guess fps really ain't that big a deal then. Who would of thought?
I'm going to take a wild guess and say you didn't realize because it's a TURN BASED GAME
I did some research and found the problem. I'm playing on a laptop and on laptops when not plugged in, dolphin will automatically lock to 30fps. But I was playing and I even got past the 2nd dungeon inside the tree and never realize I was locked to 30 fps this whole time. Really, what now at this point?
bruh
*a turn based game with timed inputs which benefits from a higher framerate
Ah yes, I remember when PM64 was unplayable because it ran at 30fps.
Me too, that's why we all remember TTYD as the superior game. Glad we agree.
Good to know the framerate morons also have shit taste.
Well hold on there anon I reckon you said the game was unplayable, you switchin' hosses in this race?
Isn't it a turn based game? Who gives a frick about framerate in a turn based game?
It's a remaster that runs worse than the original game. What more do you need to say?
How did Nintendo get only 30 on the switch but 60 on the gamecube? Are they stupid?
oh I see, now that nintendo is failing to deliver on framerate it's "fine"