I've never seen anyone get upset by that. What I have seen is people getting upset about WotC making a fantasy wild west set seemingly without any guns.
Opening with an incorrect sweeping assertion is still an effective way of baiting replies. Its almost certainly just another spam thread
I've never seen anyone get upset by that. What I have seen is people getting upset about WotC making a fantasy wild west set seemingly without any guns.
I don't know who you are, but you've been posting these "high fantasy western" threads for over a week now. It's time to stop, anon. If you want to run that game, run it. If you're doing this in the hopes someone will run a fantasy western game for you, I'm sorry you have to resort to this. But don't take your problems out on us. Let it rest.
I made this thread after seeing the one thread asking about what the genre would be called. I haven't made any other threads on the topic nor have I seen them "all week" like you claim
Is it because guns are expected to be deadly and can kill in a couple of shots which is in contrast to d20 games tendency to inflate enemy HP to high amounts making it feel like guns are not really powerful
If you really hated the thread Satan you could have ignored it and let the conversation die down. But because you need to get the last word in and announce the sage I'm now replying out of spite and bumping the thread negating your sage
OK, I'll bite:
The fantasy stuff doesn't add anything. I'll happily go along with "It's the Wild West but Jackalopes and Wendigos are real" to give some interest to a story. But "It's the Wild West but also orcs" adds nothing, and also makes it jarringly obvious that it's a game and not real and nothing matters and oh my god natty 20 did you see mom oh my god.
Can anyone explain to me why adding D&Disms into Western games is a good thing? If it helps, try and start from "D&D is bad" because that's my personal stance.
>and also makes it jarringly obvious that it's a game
Yeah tabletop games are games not an excuse to bombard your players with your shitty failed YA novels?
>The fantasy stuff doesn't add anything.
Then why fantasy genre even exist at all? Then why is the Dark Tower is so popular? And the answer is simple - fantasy gives more freedom to authors and you are just moronic.
Unless you're intentionally going for some kind of minimalism challenge, this isn't a useful way to look at things.
Jesus you guys are such obvious shills, have a nice day
>The fantasy stuff doesn't add anything.
Then why fantasy genre even exist at all? Then why is the Dark Tower is so popular? And the answer is simple - fantasy gives more freedom to authors and you are just moronic.
>Then why fantasy genre even exist at all? Then why is the Dark Tower is so popular?
Some people are cripplingly moronic. That's the only reason I can think of. The whole elf-orc-sword shit is so completely pre-chewed you might as well play Candyland.
I just enjoy different genres. Give me a spaghetti Western, a courtly Napoleonic drama, a spy technothriller, a cyberpunk dystopia or an epic space opera any day.
Lassoing a tornado is exactly the kind of bullshit you'd see in a golden age DC comic.
Wild West guns have stricter ammo limits than modern guns. There WILL be melee at some point and an orc is going to be better for fisticuffs. Magic can also be an interesting mid-point between guns that take time to reload and are limited use but super deadly and free-use but less deadly melee. Westerns before the 1970s were already mythologizing themselves so taking the next step into fantasy isn't entirely implausible.
>I'll happily go along with "It's the Wild West but Jackalopes and Wendigos are real" to give some interest to a story.
There's so much mythology and superstition unique to the American West, or other historical frontier time periods and regions worldwide, that you shouldn't need any other elements to build a high fantasy setting.
I feel moved to ask who would actually care. The Wild West has basically been dead as a genre for a long time, every RPG in that vein has died a quiet and unmourned death.
It just doesn't resonate with people, like your attempts to keep the thread bumped.
>Southwestern US had tons of folklore and mythology one could use for a fantasy "western" setting, with cowboys and shit >Put existing Tolkien-esqe races in it
Lazy as shit
NTA but My players like those races and I don't really care if they don't "fit" settings the way you want them too. We do our own settings so we can do what we want and have fun
NTA but My players like those races and I don't really care if they don't "fit" settings the way you want them too. We do our own settings so we can do what we want and have fun
I played a western game called Ghost Mountain in the ICRPG system. It was pretty great. Desperados with infernal powers, sombrero wearing skeletons, and the devil appearing to gamble for your soul in a game of cards.
Because you keep spamming the same 'Deadlands' concept week after week? We like new ideas here buddy, not your one stale wet dream time after time after time.
Just do the Wild Arms thing wherein Wild West gets mixed up with fantasy, sci-fi, and everything else. Guys and gals with six-shooters and swords delving ancient ruins full of magic, technology, and magical technology.
It's not the idea of orcs in the wild west that make people upset I've seen
It's the idea of omitting guns some people have attempted (most notalble WoC)
homie why don't you just remove swords from Pendragon if you want to be a contrarian homosexual
I recently got done running Outlaws of Alkenstar for Pathfinder 2e the presence of 6 shooters and all would have highly enhanced the feeling of the western but it was still pretty cool and fun.
I don't think anyone outside the internet actually gives a shit, OP. Just go outside. I've been running a high fantasy western-samurai hybrid GURPS game for nearly two years and it's been going great.
I was thinking, elves and orcs and dwarves should remain in solidly European-themed fantasy. And I wish there were more defined local meta-mythologies for other continents. Asia has animal-eared people and silver-haired inhuman people, but what does Africa have? What does South America have? They've all got legends but there's not a sort of consolidated core of agreed upon meta-mythology in most cases.
While typing this, I realized the very idea of the Wild West necessitates that it be Wild. It's a frontier where high-risk-tolarance people from all over the world are trying to get a piece of the pie. It might, handled correctly, actually be the one valid semi-historical setting where you could have a kitchen sink mythology with the understanding it's all imported from other locales in the world. Chinamen were common sights in old Western films, for example. A Louisianian businessman could enter an agreement with a Captain of Her Majesty's royal navy to have his railway project worked on with workers from Africa or Singapore, etc.
I think there could be something there that would feel correct with importing fantasy races into Wild West, but it would require a lot of attention to detail and each fantasy race would have to obviously be from different cultural and national backgrounds, not just biological ones.
They don't, you're just projecting your own weird conflicted feelings/preferences.
Opening with an incorrect sweeping assertion is still an effective way of baiting replies. Its almost certainly just another spam thread
I've never seen anyone get upset by that. What I have seen is people getting upset about WotC making a fantasy wild west set seemingly without any guns.
um whats this then?
A wizard's spellcasting focus.
what setting?
idk but that sounds fun
Why is OP always a homosexual asking some vague bullshit question that doesn't have anything to do with anything?
Only way this board can get engagement aside from thinly veiled fetish posts.
There's a quota of threads required to prove the site is generating content and ad revenue.
I don't know who you are, but you've been posting these "high fantasy western" threads for over a week now. It's time to stop, anon. If you want to run that game, run it. If you're doing this in the hopes someone will run a fantasy western game for you, I'm sorry you have to resort to this. But don't take your problems out on us. Let it rest.
I made this thread after seeing the one thread asking about what the genre would be called. I haven't made any other threads on the topic nor have I seen them "all week" like you claim
>MAGIC MISSLE!
>*shoots revolver*
Because Orcs are clearly equivalent to injuns.
Heartstone developers wont be upset
Tried to make an Elf cowboy and the AI gave me this
>The poster says you're wanted in San Antonio, Naughty or Nice.
>Either's fine with me.
I'd play this goofy ass concept if I could think up a good joke to base a character around.
>eh, whats up doc holiday
Shut up
Why would I want to do that?
Because you're woke
>woke
its 'awake' ESLkun
how tf is that statement woke?
Nice try falseflagging twittettard
Ignore
, that was a good one.
Because you're probably playing it with a d20 system which absolutely does not work with settings that aren't just Magic Capeshit
Is it because guns are expected to be deadly and can kill in a couple of shots which is in contrast to d20 games tendency to inflate enemy HP to high amounts making it feel like guns are not really powerful
Isn't the mythological wild west with its larger-than-life figures kind of """capeshit""" to begin with, though?
Not really. Though it was the era with actual capes, in fairness.
Lassoing a tornado is exactly the kind of bullshit you'd see in a golden age DC comic.
Because it depends on the setting, you ai piece of rubbish.
If you really hated the thread Satan you could have ignored it and let the conversation die down. But because you need to get the last word in and announce the sage I'm now replying out of spite and bumping the thread negating your sage
OK, I'll bite:
The fantasy stuff doesn't add anything. I'll happily go along with "It's the Wild West but Jackalopes and Wendigos are real" to give some interest to a story. But "It's the Wild West but also orcs" adds nothing, and also makes it jarringly obvious that it's a game and not real and nothing matters and oh my god natty 20 did you see mom oh my god.
Can anyone explain to me why adding D&Disms into Western games is a good thing? If it helps, try and start from "D&D is bad" because that's my personal stance.
>and also makes it jarringly obvious that it's a game
Yeah tabletop games are games not an excuse to bombard your players with your shitty failed YA novels?
Jesus you guys are such obvious shills, have a nice day
You sound like a moronic blowhard so high off your own farts that you actively despise the hobby you supposedly are engaging in.
Shills for what, moron?
>The fantasy stuff doesn't add anything.
Then why fantasy genre even exist at all? Then why is the Dark Tower is so popular? And the answer is simple - fantasy gives more freedom to authors and you are just moronic.
>Then why fantasy genre even exist at all? Then why is the Dark Tower is so popular?
Some people are cripplingly moronic. That's the only reason I can think of. The whole elf-orc-sword shit is so completely pre-chewed you might as well play Candyland.
Anon you seem like the type of person that tries so hard to be different that you end up making it boring
I just enjoy different genres. Give me a spaghetti Western, a courtly Napoleonic drama, a spy technothriller, a cyberpunk dystopia or an epic space opera any day.
When the frick did that ever happen in a Western?
Dude you are a pedophile
>When the frick did that ever happen in a Western?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecos_Bill
Unless you're intentionally going for some kind of minimalism challenge, this isn't a useful way to look at things.
Wild West guns have stricter ammo limits than modern guns. There WILL be melee at some point and an orc is going to be better for fisticuffs. Magic can also be an interesting mid-point between guns that take time to reload and are limited use but super deadly and free-use but less deadly melee. Westerns before the 1970s were already mythologizing themselves so taking the next step into fantasy isn't entirely implausible.
>I'll happily go along with "It's the Wild West but Jackalopes and Wendigos are real" to give some interest to a story.
There's so much mythology and superstition unique to the American West, or other historical frontier time periods and regions worldwide, that you shouldn't need any other elements to build a high fantasy setting.
Good image, and I heartily agree.
Orcs and elves are boring and shitty.
I think you're just a contrarian anon and don't have actual meaningful criticism
All your special snowflake and "creative" freakshit races are far worse
Dnd shill
I just use humans.
I feel moved to ask who would actually care. The Wild West has basically been dead as a genre for a long time, every RPG in that vein has died a quiet and unmourned death.
It just doesn't resonate with people, like your attempts to keep the thread bumped.
damn, these Thunder Junction shills are starting early
You just made this thread two days ago.
and he will keep making this thread for next two months unless you stop responding
>Southwestern US had tons of folklore and mythology one could use for a fantasy "western" setting, with cowboys and shit
>Put existing Tolkien-esqe races in it
Lazy as shit
Literally who cares if Tolkien races are in it
The only people I've ever seen get up in arms about it are pretentious gays who want to be different
Please stop being an obvious dnd shill
>"You're a dnd shill cause you don't mind Tolkien races"
Shut the frick up
Lazy and uncreative
NTA but My players like those races and I don't really care if they don't "fit" settings the way you want them too. We do our own settings so we can do what we want and have fun
This. I'm tired of people who just play the same game with a slightly different coat of paint. You do you but I'm not running fantasy games anymore.
I played a western game called Ghost Mountain in the ICRPG system. It was pretty great. Desperados with infernal powers, sombrero wearing skeletons, and the devil appearing to gamble for your soul in a game of cards.
Because you keep spamming the same 'Deadlands' concept week after week? We like new ideas here buddy, not your one stale wet dream time after time after time.
Just do the Wild Arms thing wherein Wild West gets mixed up with fantasy, sci-fi, and everything else. Guys and gals with six-shooters and swords delving ancient ruins full of magic, technology, and magical technology.
That's pretty much a major inspiration for this setting ontop of bloodborne (focus on trick weapons)
Why do you care who gets upset about anything if its not at your table? Your inner fascism wanting to get out?
It's not the idea of orcs in the wild west that make people upset I've seen
It's the idea of omitting guns some people have attempted (most notalble WoC)
homie why don't you just remove swords from Pendragon if you want to be a contrarian homosexual
I recently got done running Outlaws of Alkenstar for Pathfinder 2e the presence of 6 shooters and all would have highly enhanced the feeling of the western but it was still pretty cool and fun.
Didn't they more or less make a movie with a similar theme that bombed hard?
All I can think of is Bright which is more Shadowrun then anything else. The next closest thing you have is. Bright Samurai Soul
I was thinking RIPD but I might be confusing that with something else.
I don't think anyone outside the internet actually gives a shit, OP. Just go outside. I've been running a high fantasy western-samurai hybrid GURPS game for nearly two years and it's been going great.
I was thinking, elves and orcs and dwarves should remain in solidly European-themed fantasy. And I wish there were more defined local meta-mythologies for other continents. Asia has animal-eared people and silver-haired inhuman people, but what does Africa have? What does South America have? They've all got legends but there's not a sort of consolidated core of agreed upon meta-mythology in most cases.
While typing this, I realized the very idea of the Wild West necessitates that it be Wild. It's a frontier where high-risk-tolarance people from all over the world are trying to get a piece of the pie. It might, handled correctly, actually be the one valid semi-historical setting where you could have a kitchen sink mythology with the understanding it's all imported from other locales in the world. Chinamen were common sights in old Western films, for example. A Louisianian businessman could enter an agreement with a Captain of Her Majesty's royal navy to have his railway project worked on with workers from Africa or Singapore, etc.
I think there could be something there that would feel correct with importing fantasy races into Wild West, but it would require a lot of attention to detail and each fantasy race would have to obviously be from different cultural and national backgrounds, not just biological ones.