Why does Caesar trust you to destroy the bunker? Why doesn't he send someone in to check that you actually did?

Why does Caesar trust you to destroy the bunker? Why doesn't he send someone in to check that you actually did?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4 INT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bad writing

      Nah that's too much for the writers

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As he said himself, he would have to kill them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >having to kill one random Legionary is worse than potentially allowing the Courier to lay a trap that could destroy the entire Fort

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Legion officer wanting to repair the howitzer
      >Legion soldiers can somehow set up bomb collars that Paradise Falls slavers needed terminals and radios to utilize properly
      >Frumentarii can walk around the Strip and even purchase energy weapons in one quest
      Having to kill someone because they blew some tech up is fricking moronic when they break their own rules all the time anyways

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is very, very poorly explained in game. The distinction is that Caesar is concerned about Legionnaires believing victory could be achieved without suffering and human cost. Legionnaire goes down there, starts talking about how the Legion could just win automatically with an army of robots instead of men, and now Caesar's gotta kill him. Because now you aren't winning the war off the back of the Legion's own ingenuity and easily accessible materials like rifles, you are winning the war because of some irreplaceable pre-War facility. Relying on this technology would result in the average Legionnaire becoming a complete stranger to personal sacrifice, which is an anathema to the Legion's ideology and goals.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of things are poorly explained, or presented. A lot of people think the glowing ghoul leader of the Bright Brotherhood is an butthole for deceiving the non-ghoulified guy who thinks he’s a ghoul; but the game explains many times if you probe the dialog that they always tried to convince him he’s not a ghoul, before realizing how helpful he could be since he’s stubborn on sticking around, anyway.
          And when you talk to Chris about it, and make him see the truth, he spouts that the cult used him, but the courier’s response is not immediately “you were deluding yourself” but instead convincing him that murdering them all for their ‘deception’ would not be right.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree with you there. I don't think it is a massive issue (most people intentionally pretend there is no explanation for shit to make cheap bait, or they just skipped through the dialogue), but there are definitely instances of New Vegas leaving important things completely underexplained or presented as vaguely as possible.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's moronic.
    The PC is moronic for doing it

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unfinished faction.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FNV, Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 are all crap and overrated, I wish cancer to all their fanboys. And stop spamming Ganker with shitty threads about FNV, nobody here cares about it, y'all should go back to Schizo Elijjah discord serve to cry and act as weird incels
    kys

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All those games are underrated tbch

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      seethe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ya'll
      Death to all israelites and their golems

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's canonically moronic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >canonically unlocks moron dialog when he drinks booze
      lmao at caesar cucks

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why does Caesar trust you to destroy the bunker?
    hegelian dialectics
    >Why doesn't he send someone in to check that you actually did?
    because his entire army is 70 iq tribals who can't even fix a fricking autodoc

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bad writing

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ask Avellone on twitter.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Caesar's Legiom tries to buy energy weapons from the Van Graffes
    >Draws the line at robots
    I get it, you can't trust them, they can turn on you and go rogue, but what stops the Legion from smashing anything either way. I guess nobody saw a robot and it would blow their minds. What a stupid subplot for an otherwise great game. There was no reason for the bunker to be under the Fort, or either way he should have sent trusted men and found a way for House to fake a collpse/self destruction if the player helps him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >have society based completely on slavery and slave markets
      >same society destroys labor saving devices such as robots on principle
      it would make a lot less sense if they used robots

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Legion wants to create a new society in the post war that doesn't rely on technological relics from the old world so that it can grow and develop differently from it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so that it can grow and develop differently from it
          That's stupid. You don't magically create a new technology tree just because you break all your own shit. It just means your own people are at a monstrous disadvantage.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You create a new tech tree based on what is available to your society. If the goal was to not emulate the Old World then destroying that tech made sense for their ideal, but yes it puts you in a fricked position if you are at war with people without those qualms.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You create a new tech tree based on what is available to your society
              But that's the opposite of what they're doing. Extremely advanced technological remnants are available but instead they actively suppress and destroy such instruments because it makes them "Weaker", which is stupid.

              The goal is being the culture that survives the best and can exert it's influence on others. If it wasn't for authors fiat and Caesar being a Mary Sue dictator they'd be a laughing stock. The story needs to tie the NCRs hand behind it's back at every turn for the Legion to even have a chance of mildly inconveniencing them in Vegas.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It‘s not stupid. They developed many new medicines, because they harvested from creatures or plants of the Wasteland. The technology of the Old World relies on resources that are too depleted.
            Having a civilization rely on scavenged technology and resources creates a situation, where eventually that civilization collapses once the basis of it is removed.
            Just like the early medieval world collapsed in population, when the muslims took over Egypt and North Africa, vital food-surplus producing regions.
            The Legion is what you want. They are the adaption to the Wasteland. They progressed in a different part of the technology tree.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Many new medicines
              >The chick from the tutorial literally teaches you how to make medicine
              >The same medicine that's been a staple since the first game
              I don't think that's true, dawg.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >that doesn't rely on technological relics from the old world so that it can grow and develop differently from it
          Pretty moronic to be honest, industrial warfare will destroy them. If the Legion invades the NCR heartlands then NCR will go into panic mode and start transiting to war economy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the legion is a b***h to the brahmin barons, same with NCR and the strip. their only advantage is in slave markets.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ncr cucks still seething about the bvll 10 years later
    I love it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      b***h please house chads owned your ass. you will either be getting fisted by the midwest bos or be reduced into dancers for one our casinos.

      cope, filthy tribal.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be getting fisted by the midwest bos
        The Legion has encountered them and btfo'd them

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fallout New Vegas has such good writing that the main criticism is this miniscule error of character
    The real plothole is how the Bison Steve Hotel has pre-war skeletons on the beds despite the building being used as a hotel recently.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boulder City having 4 year old skeletons and weapons still in a building despite being occupied by NCR is fricking dumb as well.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be obsidian dev
        >Todd shows up once a week
        >tells me to add skeletons everywhere
        >but-
        >tells me to shut the frick up and calls me dreamboy
        >add the skeletons with tears in my eyes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you got explanations for this in at least 2 other threads you dumb Black person

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doesnt count

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is a very loud explosion when the bunker is destroyed, commented on by caesar himself.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Legion femboy bussy

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The door locks behind the Courier, and iirc you slot the chip into the terminal to upgrade the Securitrons, so it isn't like Caesar had a key either.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    read the archive for any number of threads that answered your stupid question.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only play the house storyline. It's so cool to sneakily exploit everyone's trust, silently savouring the moment as all the pieces fall into place, aware that when you'll make your move and reveal your treachery, they won't be able to stop you, because the game was rigged from the start.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You already made this thread and plenty of people gave you the answer already

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am not satisfied with the answers sorry. It is bad writing.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he trusted you as his fricking friend maybe, butthole?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't the door to the underground fort locks without the chip?
    He wouldn't be able to send anyone to check because without the chip the doors would be locked. In fact i think he says that he tried to open them several times

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