Why does FromSoft seem to be the only dev that actually knows what gamers want?
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Why does FromSoft seem to be the only dev that actually knows what gamers want?
surely it's just because they don't fire their workers and not because they're just generally more competent.
Clueless
As we all know. The best way to get competent workers is to make sure nobody works there for more than a year.
The Odessey staff crew at Blizzard did nothing for six years and still asked for more time to do nothing.
Well, its super hard to fire people due to Japanese labor law's. So a lot of Jap Game companies will hire people on a fixed-term contract with optional permanent position. This way the company can get rid off people they don't want without breaking any laws. But it also encourages workers to be machines because they want a permanent position in the company.
why does OP keep remaking this thread
because hes an obsessoid who lets gamedevs live in his head rent free
you know why
>dlc announcement
>discord trannies spam board en masse
>Culturally homogenized workforce makes good products
Diversity is our strengthbros...your response?
Weird thing to say considering Elden Ring is Japanese devs using diverse European culture
>diverse European culture
????
>????
Looking just at mythology:
>Norse mythology
White Islam
>Celtic mythology:
White Shintoism
>Helenism
White Ancient Mesopotamia
Even the religions are diverse.
its still an homogenized workforce moron, what the frick are you even saying
>its still an homogenized workforce
post the credits for elden ring
homie, what did he say?
The opposite would also work. A bunch of white men making a weaboo work about cool japanese shit.
Wouldn't be as good, western attitudes are too different, they would either make something too silly or too woke. Japs make art and they just kind of wanna make art for its own sake. Even when dealing with heacy themes, Americans couldn't make Silent Hill for example.
Ghosts of Sushi > soulsborne
esl moron
is this the same poo that complained about ux stuff in er?
There are people on this board that buy this idiot's games.
If there was a perfect job like eating pizza 2 hours a day, one day a week every 3 months with a salary of 500k there would still be people complaining
The working mass is never content
because of all the israelites making sure it is never content
>if things were completely different they'd look so silly!
...are you completely moronic?
dense motherfricker
Lol this indie homosexual arab is upset
Suck it down bro, phil fish lost and your cabal lost, japan won in the end
It's so funny how they seethe to this day about Fish getting blown the frick out. He made one game (stole most of it) and they crowned his ass. The moment he had to actually make an entire game himself he couldn't.
Nobody has cared about Phil Fish in years lol, what the frick are you talking about? Why are you still bringing up ancient shit?
Counter question: Does Fromsoft have a diversity quota hiring policy?
I genuinely can't fathom how people can run their mouths so unprofessionally like this and still keep their careers. This grown man is posting like a petulant child for all to see.
hes an eceleb
They just got a new studio though. Maybe things will change for the better.
Japanese tech workers are cubicle dwelling slaves, like the rest of the salarymen. It's not some prestige job there
Those glitzy jobs are reserved for Silicon Valley only
The conditions at Fromsoft HAVE gotten better under Miyazaki's leadership. idk how they compare to other Japanese companies but the old criticisms aren't valid anymore at least.
The important point is talent retention, which is something a lot of western devs really struggle at. A big reason why Japan manages it is because the laws are different, they can't just casually lay off a bunch of people to make 0.1% higher profits.
they fired her...
Good. Most overrated one at FromSoft. All of her music sucked dick. Literally every single of the most iconic tracks in Souls series weren't made by her.
vordts ost homie
I don't really care for Souls' music in general, but the songs she did for Deracine were beautiful.
npc opinion dumb fool
armored core has better music anyway who cares
Wtf? Armored Core has terrible music. Listen to this garbled electronic garbage.
And let's not forget when they go full tryhard Linkin Park edgy rock and roll.
beautiful, iconic music, how can souls even compete? now armored core will be tainted with western influence no thanks to youtubers
no, she quit to be independent
It really is just that they make the same game over and over really.
I have to be that guy, but Fromhacks are actually shitty programmers and all of their titles have unfinished/rushed shit, not to mention technical issues:
>games still locked to 60 FPS
>input buffering still obnoxious and overzelaous since DeS
>online still not overhauled
>enemies still can be leashed
>you can still use the same bugs and exploits as Demon Souls/DaS (moveset swap glitch etc.)
>ui and ux is honestly sometimes awful, prompts such as healing/reviving Torrent stopping your inputs or the quick menu still forcing you to cycle through items one at a time
>quest design is still janky and requires you to reload the game/rest at bonfire to be sure you triggered next phase
>camera is still fricked
>lock on is still shit and doesn't work properly in a single room boss fight when there is literally nothing else to lock on
I could go on. There are so many things they could smooth out but just cannot because their spaghetti code would just break into a million pieces.
>input buffering still obnoxious and overzelaous since DeS
This shit pisses me off so bad. Every time I want buffering it doesn't work, but when I don't want buffering it lasts a full minute.
i think the b-team fixed the input buffering in ds2 (along with a slew of other issues) but the a-team just kept working off of the "ds1 branch" of the codebase so all those issues came back and still persist to this day. they could definitely fix them but some crusty old frick is probably holding the door on those changes
Blame it on the youtube game essay writer gays berating ds2 as the worst game of all time and from panicking, backtracking and overcorrecting by going back to the DS1 template.
its more likely that their technical team has very archaic understanding of source control so they never bothered to have like a separate branch with bugfixes to merge into both the ds2 and ds3 project
mind you, even the dumbest bumfrick dev team in the US or western europe knows how to use git but japanese studios do dumb shit like "put it all on a USB and throw it away" like the palworld guys lol
one step forward two steps back, DS2 had limited movement compared to the other games
youre right that theyre not particularly competent in technical aspects. but they are masters of having a reasonable scope and focusing on what matters.
it is unfair to say they always make the same game when other studios who are more guilty of this release broken slop and/or have 5+ year dev cycles.
t. didnt even really like elden ring
>release AAA games so frequently
>3 years between asset flip Souls games
???
>anime girl reaction image
>moron
???
My man Insomniac has released as many games since the launch of the PS4 as From and they are a poster child for bloated AAA sloppa, the premise makes no sense.
spiderman games are supposed to be so different in environment that they are comparable as this? Bloodborne (2015) -> Dark Souls III (2016) -> Sekiro (2019) -> Elden Ring (2022) -> Armored Core VI (2023)
I can get that Bloodborne, DS III and Elden Ring had some similaries, but it wasn't an asset flip as DS I, II and III and the environments are totally different. Specially the jump from Sekiro -> ER -> AC: VI
Ratchet & Clank is about 10x more different from Spidernig than approximately any two non-licensed From games ever made.
Lol, ratchet has been the same uninspired dogshit for over 20 years
Prob one of the most shallow pieces of shit out there, literally the most dumbed down platformer with the most dumbed down shoot emup gameplay
Insomniac has literally never made a good gamr
I think this might be the shittiest and most contrarian opinion i've ever read on Ganker, just kys.
Works you Man at Insomniac?
It was ok when Square used to do it back on PS1 and 2
It's not that it's not okay, it's the idea that they are either AAA or released particularly fast.
this dude runs a cottage industry of le game dev twitter analysis because he lead an indie "dev" group that made a couple of shit games with zero (0) cultural impact years ago and he's a eurodunecoon. no one cares.
Fromsoft advantages from the outside:
>Director of most of their games is also President of the company, therefore, he knows the industry and the work flow
Most western companies don't do this
>Most of their games have 1 Director that manages most things, instead of having multiple director's that alternate on the role for different releases
Most big western devs don't do this, for instance, Call of Duty (which has short dev cicles) rotates on multiple people as Director's, Rockstar has a huge army of directors too. Most Japanese game companies focus on having 1 guy doing a full project as far as I know.
>Focuses on what they want to work on, instead of following trends
We won't see gamepass/battlepass or live service shit
>Games have clear cycles, always work on 2 projects at the same time, one takes most of the workforce, when that one is released, focus on the other one as the main and bring up a new one to develop.
Some AAA companies work on multiple projects at the same time and hope that at least one of them is good enough to focus on
>cohesive team environment that has worked together for years, meaning there's a lot of sinergy and trust
If you hire people for X new game and then fire them when the sells are bad, then most people that apply are going to be rejects or shitty workers, good workers want stable jobs with good salaries. Also most western devs have to hire X ammount of white women, Y ammount of racial minorities, Z ammount of gays/lesbians/trans and have a diversity party every year. Plus, Japanese people are perverts on their private life, westerners drink the breast milk of an employee.
>work on the same in-house engine for most their games, meaning there's a wealth of experience on how to get fights, environments and characters right
I feel like some companies try to use the cutting edge engine when it's not necesary and you have to relearn a lot of stuff or hire some new guys that know how to use the engine properly.
Are you form the industry / a game dev?
From Soft has never made an AAA game before Elden Ring
because they make the same game almost every single time the only exceptions being sekiro and armored core
its easier when you can just go
>ok we are making dark souls again
and i like soulslop
And western indieshit makes the same roguelike pixel slop over and over, shit that looks like a nes game
Your point being?
the point is that its easier to make a game when a lot of the basic work is already done
you disagree?
Who was talking about western indie pixelshit you moron
Rami Ismail is a homosexual moron
That rami guy is such a fricking whiner. He's on twitter 24/7 complaining.
Why his name reminds me that he is a homosexual?
So frequently?
Capcom, Square and Nintendo have more frequent releases.
This guy ever worked on shit games and spends 90% of his time talking shit
From has made AAA games?
Just fire the right guys (gays, bawds, morons, leftists, etc.), and then keep the good guys on good salaries.
Wow, I'm a better manager than 95% of CEOs
I'm sure it has nothing to do with all their games being Demons Souls reskins with reused assets out the ass
>triple-A
They've been recycling the same animations, models and textures since 2009
I would say they're a two and a half-A studio
>make an animation of a door opening
>need to remake that same animation wasting time and money in the future
If anything it just shows how pointlessly bloated western AAA is.
It's a shovelware company which makes Ubisoft look good in comparison.
FromSoft games are AA, or AAa at best and it's for the better.
Fromsoft is one of the worst gaming studios to work in Japan unironically. Best is Nintendo and Square is the second best.
They built their name by making games about zombies and skeletons rather than cute designs. They know the heart of gamers.
>we are blessed with [a] great staff
>somehow extrapolates "not firing people"
I'm unimpressed with this Twittertard's brainlet take, but I'm frustrated with you making this shit thread in the first place OP.
fromsoft is full of hacks that somehow developed a cult following of morons who eat up shitty gameplay mechanics because they think it validates themselves if they put up with it.
You say that but normies didn’t buy Armored Core 6.