Skyrim often leads players towards a Stealth Archer playstyle due to several factors. Firstly, the game's mechanics heavily favor stealth-based gameplay, offering bonuses for sneaking and archery. Additionally, the vast open world and diverse environments encourage players to take advantage of ranged combat, allowing for strategic positioning and long-range attacks. The satisfaction of landing precise shots from a distance also contributes to the appeal of the Stealth Archer build. Furthermore, the game's progression system rewards players with skill points and perks that enhance archery and stealth abilities, reinforcing this playstyle as an effective and enjoyable option throughout the game.
Haha, no way the internet is kaput! It's like the online universe, constantly expanding and getting weirder (in a good way). New stuff is popping up all the time, like VR and smart fridges chatting you up.
And yeah, ChatGPT might be on the scene, but it's just one player in the game. Think of it like having a bunch of new chatbots hanging out online, all with their own strengths. The internet's all about options, and this just adds to the fun!
That's a great perspective on the current state of the internet. You're absolutely right that the online world is constantly evolving and expanding in new and exciting ways. The emergence of technologies like VR and smart home devices is a testament to the internet's ability to continuously innovate and offer users novel experiences.
Your analogy of ChatGPT being just one player in a larger game of chatbots and AI assistants is spot on. The internet thrives on diversity and choice, and the introduction of conversational AI like ChatGPT simply adds another dimension to the rich tapestry of online tools and platforms available to users.
Rather than seeing ChatGPT as a threat, it's best to view it as an opportunity to explore the expanding capabilities of artificial intelligence and how it can complement and enhance our online interactions and activities. The internet has always been about expanding possibilities, and ChatGPT is simply the latest development in that ongoing process of technological progress and creativity.
Embracing the "weirdness" of new internet-powered innovations, as you put it, is what keeps the online world vibrant, dynamic and endlessly fascinating. The future of the internet is sure to bring even more surprises and delights, and it's an exciting time to be a part of this ever-evolving digital landscape.
Here's a hint anon, the posts might be written by chatGPT but it's not a bot posting them, it's people who think it's some hilarious joke to have chatGPT answer threads and manually do it
>you cant even dismember outside of killcams
I definitely noticed that regression but had no idea about headshots, that's pretty dumb. I shouldn't be surprised especially now since that whole emil dust up resurfaced his speech where he said they basically lost all of skyrims code by the time FO4 was made, the same thing probably happened between FO3 & skyrim & they didn't bother to make it from scratch again.
>mods
You're right. Skyrim is so fricking boring that the only way I had fun was RP'ing as a Black Templar with dual bolters and dual power swords. Ragdolling giants and dragons with the bolters was fun for a bit.
>one or two shots everything >never uses resources besides arrows which are essentially infinite >doesnt need anything to be effective so frees up tons of skills and gold
it's the path of least resistance.
The stamina cost / amount of damage done ratio is waaaay more efficient than dual casting which will also instantly aggro everything in the vicinity. Plus to get to the point where you can dual cast without rapidly running out of mp requires a lot more setup than picking up a bow & some arrows.
I have only played one stealth archer build. I’m usually a mage sometimes sword and board. Occasionally I’ll be a big two handed ax chad. If I ever play stealth I’ll be a night blade use illusion magic and stab them them with a dagger. I don’t understand the appeal of the stealth archer
Oh I see. Sorry anon turning 30 has been rough. Morrowind was the last truly great game they made. You just can’t beat the autists and their lore back then they were so good at it.
skyrim was great only because of the modding community providing stuff like big breasts in bikini armor, polearms and buffing unarmed damage and making spellcasting viable without alchemy abuse
I feel like Destruction mage is the most challenging one since you run out of magicka, but it's fun constantly firing magic and running to safety in close combat.
I like modding it so you don’t restore magicka over time. It makes all your potions very important to have. My favorite mage to play is actually illusion mages with modded spells. It’s a lot of fun to manipulate everyone.
base game? no fricking way. required either pre-knowledge of the game for magic potion stuff or blitzing to get 100% magic off spell casts and eventually just kinda jacking off doing no damage at higher levels because of level scaling going insane
with mods? hell fricking yeah. throwing around chain lightnings with some limits and not having to farm perks all day long or carrying around 100lb worth of cheese
I've only done stealth archer like twice in Skyrim. Most of my playthroughs have switched between various builds. The game isn't particularly hard, even on Legendary, so it doesn't "force" you into a particular playstyle at all. Anyone who finds themselves always playing stealth archer in Skyrim is just a homosexual who can't stick to suboptimal gameplay for the fun of it.
Because this game decided to introduce dragons that spend 80% of combat being outside your reach >just use dragonrend
Either the dragon will fly away or you will now be stuck in combat where you have spam it again every 10 seconds >just use magic
LOL
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>approach enemy camp >"Might as well bring out my bow and get a sneak crit to get the jump on them!" >Do this 1000 times >???? >Sneak and Archery are now at 100, you've dumped half of your perk points into them, and enemy AI is so moronic that you can permanently remain in stealth for crits
This is a slight problem with the TES "use to level" skill system, you have to fight against the current of what is obviously optimal in order to have a unique character.
This. It makes sense to go stealth to scout out enemy locations so you can control the fight better, then it makes sense to pop one with a stealth crit to weaken them before the fight, except eventually they just don't detect you so you shoot again and again.
>Magick and melee are tedious to use against dragons in vanilla >Archery is extremely effective in all areas of the game >Stealth modifiers one-shots almost everything without any sort of alchemy buff
Was there ever any sort of magic archer mod that's not just slapping generic spells onto arrows or elemental ammo?
>Magic is severely under powered in this entry, and borderline worthless against late game bosses/enemies >ES combat in general has no depth so melee feels tedious after a while, plus being forced into focusing on smithing if you don't want to get one shot all the time. >Level design and damage scaling heavily favor stealth kills, especially with bows since basic daggers 6x amount does pitiful damage+ more hassle with being forced to close the distance with enemies in stealth.
It's pretty easy to see why.
i like archery but i do it with conjuration and use the weird utility spells. i like using fear and shooting people in the ass while they run away or just frenzy a few guys and watch the chaos and pick people off.
I really don't get why this game was so highly praised back in the day. >Main story sucked, worse than any other ES >dungeons are extremely repetitive, some even straight up being exact copies of each other >Alot of the big side quests end anticlimactically, the stormcloak/imperial war quest in particular >guilds are a major step down from oblivion, with the only notable positives being the slightly unique take on the brotherhood lore, and the general setting of the mage guilld being interesting >combat gets boring after a while due to the shit leveling system. Only archer is fun >mage builds in general got severely gimped and nerfed from oblivion, being frustratingly hard to run near end game without mods. >There isn't much variety when it comes to town activities and side quests.
Only plus I can think of is the world map being fun to explore, and the soundtrack being really fricking good.
I will die on the hill that Skyrim is Bethesda's best attempt at dungeons to that date, only surpassed by Fallout 4. This is something they have only gotten better at with time, although without a strong backbone to gameplay, the dungeon experience obviously suffers. In Skyrim, >dungeons often have their own non-quest vignette, even if sometimes incredibly minimal >enemies aren't just randomly plopped around, but draugrs emerge from coffins, spiders are in webbed dens, and falmer have camps with insect livestock >interesting fusions of different tilesets in many dungeons, i.e. they got a lot of mileage out of limited assets >whether you can accept it or not, the enemy variety is also on par with the previous games as well
The dungeons are all linear as frick. Literally just hallways with enemies coming out of the walls. That's not good dungeon design at all.
Morrowind had the best dungeon design because its dungeons were designed as actual places, not completely linear but also not procedural generated like in Daggerfall. There were numerous rooms and side corridors to explore and if you had to go into a dungeon for a quest, the quest item wouldn't be on a pedestal in the final room but instead stashed in one of the side rooms like you would expect an item in real life to be placed. Sure, Skyrim may have better graphics and animations but those things aren't as important as the actual level layout when it comes to dungeon design.
Skyrim was the first open-world game and RPG for a lot of normies, so in in their mind that means it was the best open-world game and RPG they have ever played. That's all there is to it. It's just a bunch of people who have only played CoD trying out a "le nerdy" game for the first time and being shocked that games could have more than just straight corridors that you shoot your gun down. And they haven't touched many other open-world or RPG games since then so they couldn't even possibly know that Skyrim is actually a mediocre open-world RPG.
Game thinks sneak attacks are a rare feat and will give you a ton of xp for it. So naturally you go for a build that lets you sneak attack alot so you can level up fast
because it lets you engage with as little of the mechanics as possible Skyrim stealth is actually quite good if you don't put 5 points in the first sneak perk and become invisible
i've never understood this meme. pure melee will always be the obvious playstyle for those who just pick up the game and play. if you go in with stealth archer you have to sneak, be careful and line up shots, and once you're discovered it's annoying to get the stealth back. but with melee you just charge right in and bonk them with big weapons. melee is faster and easier just like every other game.
i would argue heavy armor + two handed is what the game naturally "brings" you toward, if anything can be said to do that.
I've done 10 playthroughs and go one-handed fighter every time
Skyrim often leads players towards a Stealth Archer playstyle due to several factors. Firstly, the game's mechanics heavily favor stealth-based gameplay, offering bonuses for sneaking and archery. Additionally, the vast open world and diverse environments encourage players to take advantage of ranged combat, allowing for strategic positioning and long-range attacks. The satisfaction of landing precise shots from a distance also contributes to the appeal of the Stealth Archer build. Furthermore, the game's progression system rewards players with skill points and perks that enhance archery and stealth abilities, reinforcing this playstyle as an effective and enjoyable option throughout the game.
this board is half ChatGPT now, isn't it? the internet is finished
>now
homie we’ve been training bots since 2016.
>2016
2007, anon. Captcha's were the beginning.
Haha, no way the internet is kaput! It's like the online universe, constantly expanding and getting weirder (in a good way). New stuff is popping up all the time, like VR and smart fridges chatting you up.
And yeah, ChatGPT might be on the scene, but it's just one player in the game. Think of it like having a bunch of new chatbots hanging out online, all with their own strengths. The internet's all about options, and this just adds to the fun!
That's a great perspective on the current state of the internet. You're absolutely right that the online world is constantly evolving and expanding in new and exciting ways. The emergence of technologies like VR and smart home devices is a testament to the internet's ability to continuously innovate and offer users novel experiences.
Your analogy of ChatGPT being just one player in a larger game of chatbots and AI assistants is spot on. The internet thrives on diversity and choice, and the introduction of conversational AI like ChatGPT simply adds another dimension to the rich tapestry of online tools and platforms available to users.
Rather than seeing ChatGPT as a threat, it's best to view it as an opportunity to explore the expanding capabilities of artificial intelligence and how it can complement and enhance our online interactions and activities. The internet has always been about expanding possibilities, and ChatGPT is simply the latest development in that ongoing process of technological progress and creativity.
Embracing the "weirdness" of new internet-powered innovations, as you put it, is what keeps the online world vibrant, dynamic and endlessly fascinating. The future of the internet is sure to bring even more surprises and delights, and it's an exciting time to be a part of this ever-evolving digital landscape.
ironic chatgpt posting is still shitposting
Here's a hint anon, the posts might be written by chatGPT but it's not a bot posting them, it's people who think it's some hilarious joke to have chatGPT answer threads and manually do it
>landing precise shots
skyrim doesnt have location damage
Not even headshots?
no its weird after fallout 3 and nv
you cant even dismember outside of killcams
>you cant even dismember outside of killcams
I definitely noticed that regression but had no idea about headshots, that's pretty dumb. I shouldn't be surprised especially now since that whole emil dust up resurfaced his speech where he said they basically lost all of skyrims code by the time FO4 was made, the same thing probably happened between FO3 & skyrim & they didn't bother to make it from scratch again.
I modded them in.
I just wish the melee locational damage mods weren't FUBAR, because it's weird to only have it for archery.
Is that armor/hair modded?
what the frick do you mean "bring you" ? learn english dumb gay
Bring you is correct you fricking idiot
ESL alert
it doesnt if you play the correctly (on pc with mods)
>mods
You're right. Skyrim is so fricking boring that the only way I had fun was RP'ing as a Black Templar with dual bolters and dual power swords. Ragdolling giants and dragons with the bolters was fun for a bit.
i dont want to turn skyrim into dark souls just to have fun with this game
Because it feels pretty good (even unmodded) and it is super effective. And it makes you feel like a stealthy archer ninja.
But I have played through the game using 2-handed weapons / sword+shield / magic user and/or a combination of everything offered in the game.
because elder scrolls has boring combat and being ranged and having a bonus to damage of the first strike ends combat more quickly
mostly I think it's because melee looks and feels like dogshit in these games and mages are for homosexuals
Because the AI is bad and combat otherwise feels like whacking people with cardboard tubes or showering them in piss-streams if you're a magic-man
stealth is overpowered, you are just invisible to the AI. and you attack at range silently. then on top of it you get massive damage bonuses.
Bethesda gameplay is awful and stealth archer is the only archetype that doesn't immediately break immersion by how jank it feels
Bethesda can't game design so they didn't consider the fact that tapping crouch and shooting someone shouldn't do 1000000000 damage
>one or two shots everything
>never uses resources besides arrows which are essentially infinite
>doesnt need anything to be effective so frees up tons of skills and gold
it's the path of least resistance.
I feel like stunlocking everything with double caster is easier and less resource intensive.
The stamina cost / amount of damage done ratio is waaaay more efficient than dual casting which will also instantly aggro everything in the vicinity. Plus to get to the point where you can dual cast without rapidly running out of mp requires a lot more setup than picking up a bow & some arrows.
Huh, you have to do all kinds of stupid shit to do stunlock casting like get mp cost reduction etc
I have only played one stealth archer build. I’m usually a mage sometimes sword and board. Occasionally I’ll be a big two handed ax chad. If I ever play stealth I’ll be a night blade use illusion magic and stab them them with a dagger. I don’t understand the appeal of the stealth archer
i stopped stealthing like 10 years ago, its not a hard game
I always feel like a dirty and moronic zoomer when I play Sloprim. Heckin' perks bruh, it's like Cowadoody with dragons fr fr
Please stop making me feel old you homosexual I’m only 30 are you telling me zoomers didn’t play Skyrim? Didn’t you have an older brother?
No I am telling you Skyrim is worse than Morrowind and Oblivion and is zoomercore
Oh I see. Sorry anon turning 30 has been rough. Morrowind was the last truly great game they made. You just can’t beat the autists and their lore back then they were so good at it.
combat is dogshit so one-shotting mobs is a plus. the absurd damage is also good enough to let you get by without grinding smithing too much
Casuals are called casuals for a reason and most of them would rather do as little playing as possible.
GOD WHY DID STARFIELD HAVE TO BE SHIT
paid mods
skyrim was great only because of the modding community providing stuff like big breasts in bikini armor, polearms and buffing unarmed damage and making spellcasting viable without alchemy abuse
stealth archer means you can avoid the shit combat
>magic not as good as morrowind
>melee still sucks
>bows and arrows feel better with the perks
It’s not even about stealth archer, but really archer.
What, nobody here did a mage build? The dualcast stun perk is pretty gud.
I went into autist detail about what builds I usually play and the first one is mage
I feel like Destruction mage is the most challenging one since you run out of magicka, but it's fun constantly firing magic and running to safety in close combat.
I like modding it so you don’t restore magicka over time. It makes all your potions very important to have. My favorite mage to play is actually illusion mages with modded spells. It’s a lot of fun to manipulate everyone.
base game? no fricking way. required either pre-knowledge of the game for magic potion stuff or blitzing to get 100% magic off spell casts and eventually just kinda jacking off doing no damage at higher levels because of level scaling going insane
with mods? hell fricking yeah. throwing around chain lightnings with some limits and not having to farm perks all day long or carrying around 100lb worth of cheese
>Install mods that make stuff like the undead and dwemer constructs not give a shit about arrows
Problem solved
I've only done stealth archer like twice in Skyrim. Most of my playthroughs have switched between various builds. The game isn't particularly hard, even on Legendary, so it doesn't "force" you into a particular playstyle at all. Anyone who finds themselves always playing stealth archer in Skyrim is just a homosexual who can't stick to suboptimal gameplay for the fun of it.
Stealth archer isn't even optimal wtf it sucks against legendary enemies and is just a patience game literally every playstyle is better
Stealth archer sucks dick and you play on the easiest slider
Because it's literally the only way to make combat somewhat enjoyable.
Because this game decided to introduce dragons that spend 80% of combat being outside your reach
>just use dragonrend
Either the dragon will fly away or you will now be stuck in combat where you have spam it again every 10 seconds
>just use magic
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Because it's the most fun way to play Skyrim. Though I like to pair it with conjuration to summon dremora and use the bound bow.
Where did stealth archer meme come from?
Me and my brother always played as destruction mages who stunlocks enemies with fireballs.
boring people that don't want to swordfight for some reason
>Where did stealth archer meme come from?
probably the bethesda games before it and peoples teenage selves rotfstomping something from their childhood
>approach enemy camp
>"Might as well bring out my bow and get a sneak crit to get the jump on them!"
>Do this 1000 times
>????
>Sneak and Archery are now at 100, you've dumped half of your perk points into them, and enemy AI is so moronic that you can permanently remain in stealth for crits
This is a slight problem with the TES "use to level" skill system, you have to fight against the current of what is obviously optimal in order to have a unique character.
This. It makes sense to go stealth to scout out enemy locations so you can control the fight better, then it makes sense to pop one with a stealth crit to weaken them before the fight, except eventually they just don't detect you so you shoot again and again.
>Magick and melee are tedious to use against dragons in vanilla
>Archery is extremely effective in all areas of the game
>Stealth modifiers one-shots almost everything without any sort of alchemy buff
Was there ever any sort of magic archer mod that's not just slapping generic spells onto arrows or elemental ammo?
I feel like using bows is too slow against dragons, I would just summon that flame atronach since they can lock on to them.
>Magic is severely under powered in this entry, and borderline worthless against late game bosses/enemies
>ES combat in general has no depth so melee feels tedious after a while, plus being forced into focusing on smithing if you don't want to get one shot all the time.
>Level design and damage scaling heavily favor stealth kills, especially with bows since basic daggers 6x amount does pitiful damage+ more hassle with being forced to close the distance with enemies in stealth.
It's pretty easy to see why.
i like archery but i do it with conjuration and use the weird utility spells. i like using fear and shooting people in the ass while they run away or just frenzy a few guys and watch the chaos and pick people off.
I really don't get why this game was so highly praised back in the day.
>Main story sucked, worse than any other ES
>dungeons are extremely repetitive, some even straight up being exact copies of each other
>Alot of the big side quests end anticlimactically, the stormcloak/imperial war quest in particular
>guilds are a major step down from oblivion, with the only notable positives being the slightly unique take on the brotherhood lore, and the general setting of the mage guilld being interesting
>combat gets boring after a while due to the shit leveling system. Only archer is fun
>mage builds in general got severely gimped and nerfed from oblivion, being frustratingly hard to run near end game without mods.
>There isn't much variety when it comes to town activities and side quests.
Only plus I can think of is the world map being fun to explore, and the soundtrack being really fricking good.
mods.
I will die on the hill that Skyrim is Bethesda's best attempt at dungeons to that date, only surpassed by Fallout 4. This is something they have only gotten better at with time, although without a strong backbone to gameplay, the dungeon experience obviously suffers. In Skyrim,
>dungeons often have their own non-quest vignette, even if sometimes incredibly minimal
>enemies aren't just randomly plopped around, but draugrs emerge from coffins, spiders are in webbed dens, and falmer have camps with insect livestock
>interesting fusions of different tilesets in many dungeons, i.e. they got a lot of mileage out of limited assets
>whether you can accept it or not, the enemy variety is also on par with the previous games as well
The dungeons are all linear as frick. Literally just hallways with enemies coming out of the walls. That's not good dungeon design at all.
Morrowind had the best dungeon design because its dungeons were designed as actual places, not completely linear but also not procedural generated like in Daggerfall. There were numerous rooms and side corridors to explore and if you had to go into a dungeon for a quest, the quest item wouldn't be on a pedestal in the final room but instead stashed in one of the side rooms like you would expect an item in real life to be placed. Sure, Skyrim may have better graphics and animations but those things aren't as important as the actual level layout when it comes to dungeon design.
Skyrim was the first open-world game and RPG for a lot of normies, so in in their mind that means it was the best open-world game and RPG they have ever played. That's all there is to it. It's just a bunch of people who have only played CoD trying out a "le nerdy" game for the first time and being shocked that games could have more than just straight corridors that you shoot your gun down. And they haven't touched many other open-world or RPG games since then so they couldn't even possibly know that Skyrim is actually a mediocre open-world RPG.
I’ve gone heavy 2h slaughtering every elf on sight a couple of times before
I played as an Orc and cut everyone's head off with a big sword. It was great.
Because the combat sucks, so skipping it is best.
Game thinks sneak attacks are a rare feat and will give you a ton of xp for it. So naturally you go for a build that lets you sneak attack alot so you can level up fast
because it lets you engage with as little of the mechanics as possible
Skyrim stealth is actually quite good if you don't put 5 points in the first sneak perk and become invisible
Because the combat is so poorly designed that the best playstyle is the one that engages with it the least
How would you improve Skyrim's melee combat? Or how would you make it similar to other games?
bring back dice roll combat from pre-oblivion tes games
i've never understood this meme. pure melee will always be the obvious playstyle for those who just pick up the game and play. if you go in with stealth archer you have to sneak, be careful and line up shots, and once you're discovered it's annoying to get the stealth back. but with melee you just charge right in and bonk them with big weapons. melee is faster and easier just like every other game.
i would argue heavy armor + two handed is what the game naturally "brings" you toward, if anything can be said to do that.