>b-b-b-but what about the gen that created shinies, battle towers, sequels, two regions in one game, held items, secret boss postgame, rebattle trainers, and day-night cycle!?
It's literally better than cutscene: the gen, dumb zoomer. >objectively the worst
That's gen 8.
For everything gen 2 does wrong, (and the fact that HGSS fixed none of their issues) I at least like the vibe of the johto region and the 5 good pokemon in it.
Fricking gen 8 still won't allow us to transfer all 800+ pokemon into one game.
Z moves blows. At least with Dynamaxing and Megas, they would game changing. I do like the Terrain changes, but back then it was exclusive to like 4 mons
All of their pokemon are cheated in, it became even more obvious that one of the tournaments allowed shinies for legendaries that were locked, simple as
I remember back when Hidden Power worked at its most broken, back in 5th gen. it was amazing how many people just happened ot have a Landorus with the exact stats necessary to get a maximum Power Hidden Power Ice.
All of their pokemon are cheated in, it became even more obvious that one of the tournaments allowed shinies for legendaries that were locked, simple as
>literal who
if you don't konw who Wolfe is you don't know what you are talking about. He is still an eceleb homosexual but to imply he is a literal who is just baiting
all vgc players are scum in any other esport players spend all week training to actually get good its a full time job for them. pokemon players just go on ebay buy whatever pokemon are the current meta and show up its pathetic. they should atleast spend the time it takes to breed and get good stats but none of them do
Nah gen 8 is probably more hated. But for real I would say that gen 6 and gen 7 faults fall into extreme opposites of one another. With gen 6, pretty much all of its worst aspects revolved around the singleplayers difficulty and story being super lacklustre but the actual gameplay and UI improvements is its strongest attribute which if all else makes the gen 6 games great for repeated playthroughs (hell the multiplayer/online is still to this day the best in the series).
Gen 7 on the other hand tried something interesting with its single player campaign which has fantastic worldbuilding, story and characters on paper and great for a anime or manga but good lord the gameplay sucked. The games were noticeably slower in both the long ass dialog and on a gameplay level with how battles can lag, certain animations are unnecessarily long (which doesn’t help that the battle mechanic has ungodly levels of dead spaces and text bloat between actions) and other issues like how the UI is a bloated mess compared to gen 6 especially with the online. Ultimately those issues with gen 7 can be more severe for some players than gen 6s problems.
It is. The only people trying to deny that are the Kalos fans coping with their games being bad.
Nah gen 8 is probably more hated. But for real I would say that gen 6 and gen 7 faults fall into extreme opposites of one another. With gen 6, pretty much all of its worst aspects revolved around the singleplayers difficulty and story being super lacklustre but the actual gameplay and UI improvements is its strongest attribute which if all else makes the gen 6 games great for repeated playthroughs (hell the multiplayer/online is still to this day the best in the series).
Gen 7 on the other hand tried something interesting with its single player campaign which has fantastic worldbuilding, story and characters on paper and great for a anime or manga but good lord the gameplay sucked. The games were noticeably slower in both the long ass dialog and on a gameplay level with how battles can lag, certain animations are unnecessarily long (which doesn’t help that the battle mechanic has ungodly levels of dead spaces and text bloat between actions) and other issues like how the UI is a bloated mess compared to gen 6 especially with the online. Ultimately those issues with gen 7 can be more severe for some players than gen 6s problems.
you guys don't venture outside of the /vp/ groupthink much do you
The community doesn't hate Gen 7. Wolfe hates it for two reasons. One z-moves ruined his literally-who-cares-about-vgc meta, and two he was trying to speedrun the game to get access to all the mega stones, competitive items etc so he can prepare for some tournament but the cutscenes filtered him.
Gen 7 embodies a-lot of the issues people have with modern games. Its loaded with tutorials and interruptions that break up the flow of gameplay, and make you feel like you're on a guided tour instead of an adventure. It's major redeeming quality is the story between Lusamine and her kids. But that was largely written out of USUM and replaced with some alien plotline that wasn't even fully developed.
>Its loaded with tutorials and interruptions that break up the flow of gameplay, and make you feel like you're on a guided tour instead of an adventure
bw2 has this same problem yet morons think it’s the best game in the series.
All it needed was a fast forward cutscene button like Fire Emblem. Being stopped EVERY 15 seconds for something was wild too. Alola was such a unique region that you were railroaded and handheld on when I just wanted to fricking explore it.
It's the most controversial generation. I've seen some praise it as easily the best of the 3D era, but I've seen others call it the bottom of the barrel for the series. It's just a very weird set of games that took a lot of interesting directions and marked a major shift in gameplay flow.
How is Gen 7 worse than Gen 8? What the frick is this cope?
Gen 7 has >better Pokemon >better characters >better plot >better gameplay >better regional dex >better post game >actually has every Pokémon ever in the game
Gen 8 is objectively the worst generation, even Gens 1 and 2 are leagues better
They might be counting the remakes in which case BDSP/PLA are technically better/more games than LGPE.
But yeah, some cope otherwise. SWSH is bad because it's just SM again but worse. By that metric alone Gen 7 is already automatically better.
>Platinum has a better story
"spirit bad" isn't a story
>better region
It's significantly worse because of the dogshit pokemon distribution and asinine map design that consists of nothing except bad random encounters and backtracking to collect useless shit stuck behind HM obstacles
>and more gameplay
I can't play ranked PvP on it so nope
>hallway routes are better and all I wanna do is play PVP
Why ask for a reason to play Gen 4 if you’re just gonna b***h about not being able to gun to the PVP postgame
>you should only play pokemon games with your starter! >NOOOOOOO I DON'T LIKE THIS POKEMON DISTRIBUTION WHERE'S THE DIVERSITY I CAN'T TEAMBUILD!
Why are 3Dtrannies like this?
>>you should only play pokemon games with your starter!
That's not what I said.
I DON'T LIKE THIS POKEMON DISTRIBUTION WHERE'S THE DIVERSITY I CAN'T TEAMBUILD!
Having no pokemon to collect in a pokemon game is bad, yes.
Wolfey hates gen 7 because he gives zero shits about story and cares only about gameplay.
Too bad that excuse still doesn't work since gen 7 easily has the best singleplayer gameplay out of every game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's not what I said.
So you disagree with that? You shouldn't play Pokemon games with only your starter? >Having no pokemon to collect in a pokemon game is bad, yes.
Good thing DPPT has pokemon in it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So you disagree with that?
Yes. If playing with just your starter is the best strategy then the game is poorly designed.
>Good thing DPPT has pokemon in it.
But not enough and not well distributed so the game becomes extremely dull and repetitive.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So when a game gets criticized for being easy, and some guy jumps in with pictures of his overleveled starter and claims nearly every game is easy, then that guy is wrong?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>then that guy is wrong?
No. It means the game is badly designed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then there's no reason to ever complain about a game's distribution.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Then there's no reason to ever complain about a game's distribution
Yes there is. One flaw doesn't make another flaw magically go away.
Fine, here's an easy fix for you: grab the pokemon platinum map editor, make a huge ass empty area with a bunch of grass in it and distribute all 493 pokemon in it. There, you now have a shitty wild area 2D style with even more braindead mon variety
Even if you did that it still wouldn't have OW encounters which would still make it significantly worse than SS.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Even if you did that it still wouldn't have OW encounters which would still make it significantly worse than SS.
That's a completely different issue. But sure, I have ANOTHER solution for you.
>grab pokemon HGSS map editor >make a huge empty area with a bunch of nothing in it (use SWSH's wild area for inspiration) >copy paste Zapdos encounter from the power plant into your shitty zone >remove the 16 gym bad requirement flag and add the respawn flag from the Lapras encounter in union cave (optional) >copy paste that Zapdos 493 times on your shitty empty area >replace Zapdos with every single one of the 493 pokemon (HGSS has overworld sprites for all pokemon unlike Platinum)
There, you now have a shitty wild area with all 493 mons in it AS overworld encounters. If you're smart then you can also make them move randomly using Lapras's code
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's a completely different issue
no it isn't.
>There, you now have a shitty wild area with all 493 mons in it AS overworld encounters
Still wouldn't work because the game is top down and you wouldn't be able to see where to explore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no it isn't.
Frick off moron, did you even look at the fricking image that you posted
not an argument
>Still wouldn't work because the game is top down and you wouldn't be able to see where to explore.
The wild area has NOTHING to fricking explore and neither is your custom 2D wild area. If it's too hard to see pokemon then it's the same shit as SWSH because of the shitty draw distance which causes pokemon to pop out randomly once you get close enough
Enjoy your shovelware $90 game that wasn't even worth pirating
2 years ago
Anonymous
>did you even look at the fricking image that you posted
Yes.
>The wild area has NOTHING to fricking explore
? Yes it does. There are different landmarks and I can decide where to go based on them.
>Enjoy your shovelware $90 game
As opposed to the shovelware $40 DS game that's even worse? I will, thanks
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There are different landmarks and I can decide where to go based on them.
Fine, I kneel. I forgot about the most iconic landmark of all time
2 years ago
Anonymous
>One flaw doesn't make another flaw magically go away
When one flaw is about how you should only use one pokemon then the other flaw about diversity and teambuilding doesn't matter.
XY came out nearly 10 years ago and I can still play its PvP. I don't know what you're crying about.
>One flaw doesn't make another flaw magically go away
When one flaw is about how you should only use one pokemon then the other flaw about diversity and teambuilding doesn't matter.
>When one flaw is about how you should only use one pokemon
No one said you should only use one Pokemon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No one is playing XY PvP, it was replaced a year after release by ORAS. Record yourself battling on XY battle spot or shut the frick up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No one said you should only use one Pokemon.
When the alternative is regularly described as "playing like a moron" then that is practically what is being said.
Even if SwSh PVP died in the next minute it wouldn't change the fact I got much more out of it than I ever got out of the Multi in any NDS game. That is a moronic argument to try.
Fun fact: a friend of mine did video editing for Wolfey and not only did Wolfey underpay him, but he kept ignoring his requests to be paid for all the work he did and Wolfey was really reluctant to pay him at all.
>waaa why isn't he paying me for sitting on my ass and moving some pictures around waaaa
Name people more pathetic than editors. Your homosexual friend should've been content to work for the literal world champion and shut the frick up.
>waaa why isn't he paying me for sitting on my ass and moving some pictures around waaaa
Name people more pathetic than editors. Your homosexual friend should've been content to work for the literal world champion and shut the frick up.
I hope he sees this bro, clearly you wanna suck his wiener so badly
I think a lot of people like sm/usum a lot on their first playthrough. Its just the hardest game to replay.
If youre trying to get through the game quickly or god forbid speedrun it you realize how dialogue heavy it is, and how if you take all the cutscene dialogue away the amount of actual controllable gameplay is rather short. Its padded to frick and back.
And this is more of my opinion but the region feels empty. Theres lots of big open routes that just have like one or two trainers with one pokemon each and a pokeball, then at the end of every route the screen cuts to black, Lilly slowly walks into frame, cuts to the protag, dead eyed half grin, hau snothers you in positivity and malasadas you know the rest.
I did really like how they gave some trainers fully evd mons. I remember my whole team getting outsped and destroyed by guzzmans pinsir of all things and I didnt realize why.
>Gen 7 is probably the most polarizing in the series.
This. But I've seen almost universal hate for Gens V, VI and VIII, with the least hate towards Gen VI for its QOL improvements in ORAS.
I feel like if you took the best elements of all 3 gens and combined them into one super game on the Switch, it would be in the conversation s comparable to the original RB/GS.
Your "argument" is incorrect and disingenuous. Galar has far more linear and railroaded level design than Sinnoh does. Also your pic now tries to focus on Pokemon distribution instead of level linearit.
Fine, here's an easy fix for you: grab the pokemon platinum map editor, make a huge ass empty area with a bunch of grass in it and distribute all 493 pokemon in it. There, you now have a shitty wild area 2D style with even more braindead mon variety
People get tired of the formula after a while and expect a bigger leap when a series goes 3D or to more powerful consoles
PLA is the sort of thing they should have been experimenting with in the early 3DS days
>and expect a bigger leap when a series goes 3D
The series went 3D in gen 4 though. So that mean gen 4 and 5 are 0/10s too?
2 years ago
Anonymous
he's just going to start making up excuses about how gen 4 and 5 aren't """"real"""" 3D games or how the console isn't powerful enough even though a fricking Mario 64 remake was a launch DS game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are being disingenuous. It's obvious that when someone says pokémon "went 3D" they're talking about when the pokémon and humans finally became 3D models.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's obvious that when someone says pokémon "went 3D" they’re a moron who has inconsistent standards
Of course.
>literally the exact same game as before >BUT less content, even easier and for some fricking reason, 20x more fricking cutscenes
Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY apart from the god tier online features? Postgame was completely gutted, there was literally no challenge even if you disabled expshare and the game straight up gave you for free a mega lucario for some reason and your friends were even more fricking intrusive than the BW1 rivals
Sounds a lot like Emerald to DP or HGSS to BW. Seems like the 3D games are the only ones held to this standard.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The new region/Pokemon overshadowed it a lot but people were definitely annoyed by that at the start of new gens then too, GF stripping features from the last gen to sell them back in a third version was always shitty
2 years ago
Anonymous
DP sucked compared to Emerald but Platinum was comparable to Emerald. BW1 sucked compared to HGSS but BW2 was comparable to HGSS. XY sucked compared to BW2 and that's all folks
>>BUT less content
where
>even easier
The top 3 hardest games in the series are in gen 7 and 8.
>20x more fricking cutscenes
XY has fewer cutscenes than BW and ESPECIALLY fewer than BW2
>Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY
Trainer customization?
Drastically better graphics including a dynamic 3D camera and Pokemon with a dozen animations each instead of shitty sprite puppets?
Destiny knot breeding?
Better battle facilities that actually use triple and rotation battles?
>M-MUH CHALLENGE
doesn't exist in gen 5 either so I have no clue what you're b***hing about
>>BUT less content >where
https://www.serebii.net/xy/legendary.shtml
Literally just zygarde, a mewtwo without any dungeon and three rehashed roamers. The rest of the content is just the typical battle tower knock off and cutscenes with Looker
>The top 3 hardest games in the series are in gen 7 and 8. >8 >8 >8 >8
7 has unironically some difficulty spikes, but you have brain damage if you think that 8 isn't the easiest shit in the franchise. I beat that piece of shit with a zero EXP mod and the entire game felt like a normal playthrough with the exception of the champion which was actually overleveled for once. The entire game is fricking braindead
0/10 bait just like the game
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think by 8 he meant Volo
Necrozma and Volo are the only major difficulty spikes I can think of in the franchise
2 years ago
Anonymous
Volo is literally just one fight in a game that offers absolutely no challenge. There's no way that he's talking about PLA
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Volo is literally just one fight in a game
as opposed to zero fights in the game like gen 5?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>6v8 fight that's only hard due to rubberband mechanics that gives the trainer whose pokemon just fainted priority in the next move >also zero room for strategy other than spamming SE moves and heal items like a monke due to the lack of held items and abilities
If we're talking about artificial difficulty in shitty spinoffs then PMD's Purity Forest is way harder. If we're talking about mainline games, emerald and platinum/hgss are harder due to the battle frontier which prevents you from overleveling and spamming items. There's no longer room for gen 7 and 8 to be in the top 3 """hardest""" games of the franchise. But sure, it's harder than BW2 even if 99% of PLA is non existant due to every single other trainer in the game having less than 6 pokemon in a game that has those fricking rubberband mechanics. Congrats for >beating
BW2 though
2 years ago
Anonymous
>THE BOSS HAS AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE AGAINST ME? NOOO!!!
have you not played video games other than braindead pokemon games before?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go play kaizo if you like artificial difficulty like grinding to level 100 just to do the first gym.
Unfair advantages can be a fun thing when the game is built around them. For PLA, since there's no room for creativity and strategy due to the shallow move pools, no abilities and held items, all you can do to beat the fight is to:
1. Grind to 100, which might not even work since you can just get outsped and get 1 hit ko'd due to the fricking rubberband mechanic.
2. Spam healing items in the last Volo pokemon and then beat the two Giratina with sheer numbers alone, which was what I did to beat the fight on my team that was 15 levels behind Volo on my second try.
You beat the boss's unfair braindead advantage with an unfair braindead advantage of your own. Shit game design at its finest and pretty much the definition of artificial difficulty.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This same franchise has people who have a meltdown over an enemy trainer having a level advantage. A lot of Pokemon fans seem to have never played another RPG or game period.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Literally just zygarde, a mewtwo without any dungeon and three rehashed roamers
Why do legendaries only count as content? Why are you ignoring the fact that Kalos has more Pokemon to catch than Unova and XY has more Pokemon overall than BW/BW2?
>but you have brain damage if you think that 8 isn't the easiest shit in the franchise
which trainer fights are harder than Volo? please show them to me.
>shitty spinoff game
Purity forest from PMD 1 is the harder game you moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
Volo is literally just one fight in a game that offers absolutely no challenge. There's no way that he's talking about PLA
Volo isn't the only difficult thing in PLA. Trying to catch pokemon in time distortions is hard too. When a Umbreon, Ursaring, and Alpha Steelix spawn and you want to catch them you're fighting a 3v1 with them doing tons of damage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Literally just zygarde, a mewtwo without any dungeon and three rehashed roamers
Why do legendaries only count as content? Why are you ignoring the fact that Kalos has more Pokemon to catch than Unova and XY has more Pokemon overall than BW/BW2?
>but you have brain damage if you think that 8 isn't the easiest shit in the franchise
which trainer fights are harder than Volo? please show them to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why do legendaries only count as content? Why are you ignoring the fact that Kalos has more Pokemon to catch than Unova and XY has more Pokemon overall than BW/BW2?
Did you even read the rest of the post you moron? Also, didn't you shills say that 1 pokemon =/= 1 content to defend SWSHit's, BDSP's and PLA's culls?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Did you even read the rest of the post you moron
Yes.
>Also, didn't you shills say that 1 pokemon =/= 1 content
Oh so now Pokemon aren't content when it's for a game you like? lmao
>6v8 fight that's only hard due to rubberband mechanics that gives the trainer whose pokemon just fainted priority in the next move >also zero room for strategy other than spamming SE moves and heal items like a monke due to the lack of held items and abilities
If we're talking about artificial difficulty in shitty spinoffs then PMD's Purity Forest is way harder. If we're talking about mainline games, emerald and platinum/hgss are harder due to the battle frontier which prevents you from overleveling and spamming items. There's no longer room for gen 7 and 8 to be in the top 3 """hardest""" games of the franchise. But sure, it's harder than BW2 even if 99% of PLA is non existant due to every single other trainer in the game having less than 6 pokemon in a game that has those fricking rubberband mechanics. Congrats for >beating
BW2 though
>IT'S ONLY HARD BECAUSE HE HAS AN ADVANTAGE AGAINST ME!!!
welcome to well designed video games, unovagay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
ORAS is pretty comparable in scope to the other third versions.
>even easier
The top 3 hardest games in the series are in gen 7 and 8.
>20x more fricking cutscenes
XY has fewer cutscenes than BW and ESPECIALLY fewer than BW2
>Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY
Trainer customization?
Drastically better graphics including a dynamic 3D camera and Pokemon with a dozen animations each instead of shitty sprite puppets?
Destiny knot breeding?
Better battle facilities that actually use triple and rotation battles?
>M-MUH CHALLENGE
doesn't exist in gen 5 either so I have no clue what you're b***hing about
2 years ago
SeoKouji
>Better battle facilities that actually use triple and rotation battles?
Pwt, treehollow,battle subway,battle subway This person is fricking moronic
>doesn't exist in gen 5 either so I have no clue what you're b***hing about
Challenge mode motherfricker
>Drastically better graphics including a dynamic 3D
You comparing nds to 3ds another moron argument
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Pwt, treehollow,battle subway,battle subway
Are worse than the Battle Maison, yes.
>Challenge mode motherfricker
Has no challenge, yes.
>You comparing nds to 3ds
And yet BW2 looks like shit even for a DS game.
2 years ago
SeoKouji
>Are worse than the Battle Maison, yes.
They are not lol
>Has no challenge, yes
It's has more challenge than any Pokemon main game
>And yet BW2 looks like shit even for a DS game.
Fyi I'm playing bw2 in Android Emulator not in nds I can turn on the 3d high resolution and change the filter hahaha
So the graphics is great and I'm currently playing it on my phone since my nds is lost
2 years ago
SeoKouji
The PWT is the best battle facility in Pokémon
Reasons:
You can battle every gym leader from every region.
You can battle every champion from every region.
You can download tourneys.
You can battle an Ray Rizzo the 2012 World Champion
Rental Master
Mix Master
Type Expert
You can battle them in either single,double,triple or rotation
>Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY
berry farming and ribbons, which gen 5 cut, which gen 5 fanboys seem to like conveniently ignoring even though it would be one of the things they'd constantly b***h about XY for removing if the situations were reversed
Not until Gen 10. Once SV releases, SWSH will go from "it HAS to be defended by shills" to doomposters saying "SWSH was bad but at least it's not as bad as SV".
A tournament winner at VGC, but he acts like he wins he's suddenly the best player in the world when there's thousands of other divisions and regionals
And his fricking lost to based Strong Jaw Joey in a random tournament anyway
Wolfey's reasoning for hating Gen 7 is the stupidest thing
He's specifically talking about USUM and he thinks that game ruins Gen 7 as a whole for some stupid fricking reason
As a competitive gay, it's obvious he's butthurt that Stackatacka and Clown Alien filter him online
Honestly my biggest issue with Gen 7 was USUM as a whole. It was basically the same games except with barely noticeable differences, save for the inexplicable shift in Lusamine's motivation, and the objectively worse postgame content that relied primarily on the player having nostalgia for several previous generations instead of a plotline that actually got you invested, like the interpol-focused postgame plot of SuMo expanding more on the Ultra Beasts, Ultra Space, and Fallers in general, and bringing back Anabel of all people as a major character in said postgame.
That being said, at least when you compare original SuMo Lusamine to USUM Lusamine, the character shift isn't as drastic as say... SuMo Anime Lusamine.
It's not perfect but for people to act like a game ruins the generation really makes no sense.
That's like ignoring platinum because base Diamond and Pearl exist.
The shift doesn't matter as much as the fact that we had Lusamine change at all. They really didn't expect people would attribute Lusamine's issues as Child Abuse, it's pretty crazy but I'm glad we still have original Lusamine.
I think one of the big things that turned me off of Gen 7 overall was how they basically dunked on the previous gen's gimmick and talked up the new one.
Gen 6: "Mega Evolution is the culmination of the unbreakable bond between Trainer and Pokemon, allowing them to gain even greater power!"
Gen 7: "Mega Evolving these Pokemon is basically animal abuse and you should feel bad for even wanting to use it. USE Z MOVES INSTEAD, STUPID FOREIGNER."
Exactly. I don't get why people sperge over it so much. Only difference is that you have two versions. I guess a lot of people got their hopes up for sequel games and got mad when it wasn't the case
The marketing team really didn't help there tbf. They really sucked with the alolan games and killed a lot of the hype before the games were even out with either too much info or being vague on whether the games were 3rd versions of sequels
Why not? I admit Lusamine wasn't nearly as good in usum as in sm, but ultra necrozma was fantastic. The ultra reason squad were kinda fun too. Mina actually had a trial this time (even if the powerscaling was off at that point) and rainbow rocket was awesome. I'm genuinely curious here
I wouldn't say I hate it, but it starts off very slowly and after Mega Evolution, Z Moves felt like a downgrade.
The 3 main points of interest were being able to complete Zygarde as you progressed the story, Lusamine as the villain, and the professor as the final battle of the main story to become the champion.
The Ultra games tried to pivot Lusamine into a well-intentioned extremist with Necrozma becoming the main threat, which went against what alot of people liked about Lusamine's character in the originals. And the battle to become champion ended up with a better developed Hau. Generally people found the story in Ultra to be more generic. However, it did improve the start of the game's pacing by letting you get your starter earlier. And it added in Totem Stickers so that you can start collecting when you're on the first island instead of needing to wait to start the collectathon on the second island for the Zygarde cells in the original.
I think GF has caught onto this. Scarlet/Violet giving the player more freedom to explore and likely only having story beats happens if the player chooses to interact with certain things is likely the result of that.
I'm really curious if the gyms can really be done in any order if what kind of scaling that would mean.
And then there's the open areas. Are they scaled, or is it like the Wild Area where you have to get a few badges before you can catch the Snorlax? Because if so, you'd basically be forced to progress the story if you wanted certain Pokemon.
The only closed off areas were the ones you needed the water bike for. You could still cross the bridge into the higher level area near Hammerlocke by ignoring what the NPC warns you about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't like open world games. I don't have high hopes for this game
I'm assuming it's going to be like the wild area where areas are closed off until you get a certain amount of badges or a new HM(equivalent)
Ideally the best way to do it would be to certain areas locked for either plot progression or a HM/Ride/Equivalent, but those areas won't stop you from going to all 8 Gyms and the main Pokemon League Area. That way being free to complete your league journey is still there while also providing rewards for exploring more with whatever unlocks
Depends
Sword and Shield was essential that except it happens when you remember you have to play through the story.
I think it's obvious the way it's going to happen is that the towns for the next gyms will essentially have their part of the story, and that's probably the best way to do it
Gen 7 was okay?
The only real issue were unskippable cutscenes but if this is the only problem with the game then eh?
Wolfe can go frick himself, just as every other pokecelebrite and brainless people that create their opinions basing on regurgitated shit from these mob owners.
gen 7 was a fantastic breath of fresh air after gen 6 but i'm not ignorant of its problems. having a 10 minute cutscene every route got old after the first one.
But I loved the new pokemon, the story was decent, ultra beasts were cool, I liked z moves.
I can never take competitive or """""pro""""" players seriously.
The only reason that other "PRO NUZLOCKER" gay hates Gen 2 is because he can't use his cheating starts to do any nuzlockes
Gen 7 can't be the worst because Gen 2 is objectively the worst.
fpwp
I don't like gen 2 but that's wrong
based
>b-b-b-but what about the gen that created shinies, battle towers, sequels, two regions in one game, held items, secret boss postgame, rebattle trainers, and day-night cycle!?
It's literally better than cutscene: the gen, dumb zoomer.
>objectively the worst
That's gen 8.
Gen 7 and 2 are both awesome. Gen 4 is the worst
close the thread, it ended with that anon's post
>more gen 5 discord troony raiders
For everything gen 2 does wrong, (and the fact that HGSS fixed none of their issues) I at least like the vibe of the johto region and the 5 good pokemon in it.
Fricking gen 8 still won't allow us to transfer all 800+ pokemon into one game.
Because it was the dead of the national pokedex.
holy esl
Z moves blows. At least with Dynamaxing and Megas, they would game changing. I do like the Terrain changes, but back then it was exclusive to like 4 mons
Gen 7 is the best
>1 (one) tweet by a literal who = pokemon community
1 tweet = 1 content
the world champ isn't a literal who. you're more of a literal who to the pokemon community than he is.
this is a very cringe comment
your entire life is cringe.
Yikes sweaty! Didn't realize wolfey fans were so sensitive. Your youtuber hasn't been relevant in 6 years.
>comment
t. wolfe
>world champ
he's a cheater tho
>disrespecting the FRICKING KING
Watch your your fricking TONGUE subhuman rat. You're talking about the WORLD fricking CHAMPION.
>world champion
Wait, is this that guy from the video where he has no idea what String Shot does?
cheaters don't deserve respect
Relax it's just a fricking children video game
World champion of cheating?
Eat shit and play a Pokemon game for real, you got filtered in PLA and tried to blame the game cuck
anyone wanna elaborate on this? like with real proof?
All of their pokemon are cheated in, it became even more obvious that one of the tournaments allowed shinies for legendaries that were locked, simple as
I remember back when Hidden Power worked at its most broken, back in 5th gen. it was amazing how many people just happened ot have a Landorus with the exact stats necessary to get a maximum Power Hidden Power Ice.
All of them were shiny too.
>literal who
if you don't konw who Wolfe is you don't know what you are talking about. He is still an eceleb homosexual but to imply he is a literal who is just baiting
Gen 7 hasn’t the best story and world.
you added n't to has by mistake
Literally who???
a guy that was proven to cheat
Keep eating dogfood, Verlisfy
nah, verlisfy was full of bullshit when he said it
but some prestigious pokehex dev proved wolfie injected months after that
Everybody does.
Don't care, also Verlisfy should hang himself by his pokewalker collar
all vgc players are scum in any other esport players spend all week training to actually get good its a full time job for them. pokemon players just go on ebay buy whatever pokemon are the current meta and show up its pathetic. they should atleast spend the time it takes to breed and get good stats but none of them do
>but some prestigious pokehex dev proved wolfie injected months after that
Source?
Verlisfy
You suck Dick
You suck Dick
You suck Dick
You suck dick
I thought Gen 6 was more hated than 7
It is. The only people trying to deny that are the Kalos fans coping with their games being bad.
Cope SMtroon
7 is better than 6 on the first playthrough I think, but harder to replay because the entire first island is a slow as hell unskippable tutorial
Nah gen 8 is probably more hated. But for real I would say that gen 6 and gen 7 faults fall into extreme opposites of one another. With gen 6, pretty much all of its worst aspects revolved around the singleplayers difficulty and story being super lacklustre but the actual gameplay and UI improvements is its strongest attribute which if all else makes the gen 6 games great for repeated playthroughs (hell the multiplayer/online is still to this day the best in the series).
Gen 7 on the other hand tried something interesting with its single player campaign which has fantastic worldbuilding, story and characters on paper and great for a anime or manga but good lord the gameplay sucked. The games were noticeably slower in both the long ass dialog and on a gameplay level with how battles can lag, certain animations are unnecessarily long (which doesn’t help that the battle mechanic has ungodly levels of dead spaces and text bloat between actions) and other issues like how the UI is a bloated mess compared to gen 6 especially with the online. Ultimately those issues with gen 7 can be more severe for some players than gen 6s problems.
>Anon makes a reasonable point and explains his line of thinking while pointing out the pros and cons of both games
You're too based for this website.
you guys don't venture outside of the /vp/ groupthink much do you
The replies of that tweet are only exclusively hating on Gen 2, Gen 6, Gen 7, and Gen 8
7 was the last gen to have natdex it cant be all bad
World Champions Low Elo Exposed
Gen 7 is the only 3D games I like
The community doesn't hate Gen 7. Wolfe hates it for two reasons. One z-moves ruined his literally-who-cares-about-vgc meta, and two he was trying to speedrun the game to get access to all the mega stones, competitive items etc so he can prepare for some tournament but the cutscenes filtered him.
Most people don’t like how story and cutscene driven these games are.
ECELEB THREAD
What literal whos says doesn't change how much I like each gen
I still enjoy most generations
envy
>twitter screencap thread
Gen 7 embodies a-lot of the issues people have with modern games. Its loaded with tutorials and interruptions that break up the flow of gameplay, and make you feel like you're on a guided tour instead of an adventure. It's major redeeming quality is the story between Lusamine and her kids. But that was largely written out of USUM and replaced with some alien plotline that wasn't even fully developed.
USUM was clearly them wanting to do a BW2 but due to (self imposed) time constraints, it got turned into a weird third version
>Its loaded with tutorials and interruptions that break up the flow of gameplay,
so was gen 5 and 6 though kek
USUM had all the ingredients to make one of the best mainline stories but GF had to fricking dropped the ball. Hard.
>make you feel like you're on a guided tour instead of an adventure
Go to vacation destination land.
Everything is guided tours.
>Its loaded with tutorials and interruptions that break up the flow of gameplay, and make you feel like you're on a guided tour instead of an adventure
bw2 has this same problem yet morons think it’s the best game in the series.
Yes is the best Pokemon game
All it needed was a fast forward cutscene button like Fire Emblem. Being stopped EVERY 15 seconds for something was wild too. Alola was such a unique region that you were railroaded and handheld on when I just wanted to fricking explore it.
>hey everyone listen to my dumbass opinion even though no one asked
Frick I hate Twitter
It's the most controversial generation. I've seen some praise it as easily the best of the 3D era, but I've seen others call it the bottom of the barrel for the series. It's just a very weird set of games that took a lot of interesting directions and marked a major shift in gameplay flow.
>gen 7 bad because I don't like reading and I *have* to be in control of my character 99% of the time because I just do ok
What would you lose out on if you can just skip it?
How is Gen 7 worse than Gen 8? What the frick is this cope?
Gen 7 has
>better Pokemon
>better characters
>better plot
>better gameplay
>better regional dex
>better post game
>actually has every Pokémon ever in the game
Gen 8 is objectively the worst generation, even Gens 1 and 2 are leagues better
They might be counting the remakes in which case BDSP/PLA are technically better/more games than LGPE.
But yeah, some cope otherwise. SWSH is bad because it's just SM again but worse. By that metric alone Gen 7 is already automatically better.
>Gen 8 is objectively the worst generation
give me a single reason to play DPPt over Sword and Shield and I'll agree with you
Platinum has a better story, better region, and more gameplay than SwSh.
>Platinum has a better story
"spirit bad" isn't a story
>better region
It's significantly worse because of the dogshit pokemon distribution and asinine map design that consists of nothing except bad random encounters and backtracking to collect useless shit stuck behind HM obstacles
>and more gameplay
I can't play ranked PvP on it so nope
If you care about ranked PvP go play a shooter, Pokemon is made as a single player RPG
>Pokemon is made as a single player RPG
then why is the single player so fricking bad?
>hallway routes are better and all I wanna do is play PVP
Why ask for a reason to play Gen 4 if you’re just gonna b***h about not being able to gun to the PVP postgame
routes are better
DPPt has even more hallway maps than SS does.
Yeah, because they're not actually reasons.
>”give me a single reason to play DPPt over Sword and Shield and I'll agree with you”
>is given a reason
>disagrees
>you should only play pokemon games with your starter!
>NOOOOOOO I DON'T LIKE THIS POKEMON DISTRIBUTION WHERE'S THE DIVERSITY I CAN'T TEAMBUILD!
Why are 3Dtrannies like this?
>>you should only play pokemon games with your starter!
That's not what I said.
I DON'T LIKE THIS POKEMON DISTRIBUTION WHERE'S THE DIVERSITY I CAN'T TEAMBUILD!
Having no pokemon to collect in a pokemon game is bad, yes.
Too bad that excuse still doesn't work since gen 7 easily has the best singleplayer gameplay out of every game.
>That's not what I said.
So you disagree with that? You shouldn't play Pokemon games with only your starter?
>Having no pokemon to collect in a pokemon game is bad, yes.
Good thing DPPT has pokemon in it.
>So you disagree with that?
Yes. If playing with just your starter is the best strategy then the game is poorly designed.
>Good thing DPPT has pokemon in it.
But not enough and not well distributed so the game becomes extremely dull and repetitive.
So when a game gets criticized for being easy, and some guy jumps in with pictures of his overleveled starter and claims nearly every game is easy, then that guy is wrong?
>then that guy is wrong?
No. It means the game is badly designed.
Then there's no reason to ever complain about a game's distribution.
>Then there's no reason to ever complain about a game's distribution
Yes there is. One flaw doesn't make another flaw magically go away.
Even if you did that it still wouldn't have OW encounters which would still make it significantly worse than SS.
>Even if you did that it still wouldn't have OW encounters which would still make it significantly worse than SS.
That's a completely different issue. But sure, I have ANOTHER solution for you.
>grab pokemon HGSS map editor
>make a huge empty area with a bunch of nothing in it (use SWSH's wild area for inspiration)
>copy paste Zapdos encounter from the power plant into your shitty zone
>remove the 16 gym bad requirement flag and add the respawn flag from the Lapras encounter in union cave (optional)
>copy paste that Zapdos 493 times on your shitty empty area
>replace Zapdos with every single one of the 493 pokemon (HGSS has overworld sprites for all pokemon unlike Platinum)
There, you now have a shitty wild area with all 493 mons in it AS overworld encounters. If you're smart then you can also make them move randomly using Lapras's code
>That's a completely different issue
no it isn't.
>There, you now have a shitty wild area with all 493 mons in it AS overworld encounters
Still wouldn't work because the game is top down and you wouldn't be able to see where to explore.
>no it isn't.
Frick off moron, did you even look at the fricking image that you posted
>Still wouldn't work because the game is top down and you wouldn't be able to see where to explore.
The wild area has NOTHING to fricking explore and neither is your custom 2D wild area. If it's too hard to see pokemon then it's the same shit as SWSH because of the shitty draw distance which causes pokemon to pop out randomly once you get close enough
Enjoy your shovelware $90 game that wasn't even worth pirating
>did you even look at the fricking image that you posted
Yes.
>The wild area has NOTHING to fricking explore
? Yes it does. There are different landmarks and I can decide where to go based on them.
>Enjoy your shovelware $90 game
As opposed to the shovelware $40 DS game that's even worse? I will, thanks
>There are different landmarks and I can decide where to go based on them.
Fine, I kneel. I forgot about the most iconic landmark of all time
>One flaw doesn't make another flaw magically go away
When one flaw is about how you should only use one pokemon then the other flaw about diversity and teambuilding doesn't matter.
SWSH PVP is irrelevant in 5 months even if you are a VGCuck
XY came out nearly 10 years ago and I can still play its PvP. I don't know what you're crying about.
>When one flaw is about how you should only use one pokemon
No one said you should only use one Pokemon.
No one is playing XY PvP, it was replaced a year after release by ORAS. Record yourself battling on XY battle spot or shut the frick up.
>No one said you should only use one Pokemon.
When the alternative is regularly described as "playing like a moron" then that is practically what is being said.
Even if SwSh PVP died in the next minute it wouldn't change the fact I got much more out of it than I ever got out of the Multi in any NDS game. That is a moronic argument to try.
Yes Platinum, not Diamond and Pearl
The music is better
My homie Staraptor isn't in SwSh
DPPt is a real Pokemon game.
SWSH is a shitty spinoff.
gen viii IS worse, nobody's denying that
the point is that both generations were terrible
It was boring as shit and had the worst anime seasons. These tards wasted Season 20 of the anime on Sun/Moon?? why not XYZ Part II?
Fun fact: a friend of mine did video editing for Wolfey and not only did Wolfey underpay him, but he kept ignoring his requests to be paid for all the work he did and Wolfey was really reluctant to pay him at all.
>waaa why isn't he paying me for sitting on my ass and moving some pictures around waaaa
Name people more pathetic than editors. Your homosexual friend should've been content to work for the literal world champion and shut the frick up.
I hope that editor wasn't the one who told wolfBlack person to use the typical basedboy clickbait thumbnails
No this was a few years ago
I hope he sees this bro, clearly you wanna suck his wiener so badly
the worst gen is gen 8 ffs
>removal of Z moves and Mega
>Dmax shit
>fricking dexit
>the fricking demakes
I fricking hate shit and shill Black folk
>removal of Z moves and Mega
That's good.
>Dmax shit
That's bad.
>fricking dexit
I don't care.
>the fricking demakes
I'm not buying remakes ever.
>Z moves and Mega
>>Dmax shit
same shit
I think a lot of people like sm/usum a lot on their first playthrough. Its just the hardest game to replay.
If youre trying to get through the game quickly or god forbid speedrun it you realize how dialogue heavy it is, and how if you take all the cutscene dialogue away the amount of actual controllable gameplay is rather short. Its padded to frick and back.
And this is more of my opinion but the region feels empty. Theres lots of big open routes that just have like one or two trainers with one pokemon each and a pokeball, then at the end of every route the screen cuts to black, Lilly slowly walks into frame, cuts to the protag, dead eyed half grin, hau snothers you in positivity and malasadas you know the rest.
I did really like how they gave some trainers fully evd mons. I remember my whole team getting outsped and destroyed by guzzmans pinsir of all things and I didnt realize why.
That OP image is one of the dumbest things I've seen. Gen 7 is probably the most polarizing in the series.
>Gen 7 is probably the most polarizing in the series.
This. But I've seen almost universal hate for Gens V, VI and VIII, with the least hate towards Gen VI for its QOL improvements in ORAS.
I feel like if you took the best elements of all 3 gens and combined them into one super game on the Switch, it would be in the conversation s comparable to the original RB/GS.
>gen 8 is so bad that there are people collectively going out of their way to say that any other gen besides gen 1 is the worst
This is insufferable.
yeah it can't just be that there are other gens worse than gen 8 or anything.
It isn't. Gen 8 is the worst then Gen 6.
4 is worse than both
>DPPt has even more hallway maps than SS does.
not an argument
Your "argument" is incorrect and disingenuous. Galar has far more linear and railroaded level design than Sinnoh does. Also your pic now tries to focus on Pokemon distribution instead of level linearit.
>Galar has far more linear and railroaded level design
The image sure doesn't show that.
Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra were alright. The problem was base SWSH.
Fine, here's an easy fix for you: grab the pokemon platinum map editor, make a huge ass empty area with a bunch of grass in it and distribute all 493 pokemon in it. There, you now have a shitty wild area 2D style with even more braindead mon variety
I don't get how someone can look at gen 7 and call it the worst when gens 6 and 8 are right there.
durfhh cutscene bad
Wolfey hates gen 7 because he gives zero shits about story and cares only about gameplay.
Gen 6 and 8 are both better than 7 since all of them have single player that is super fricking shit but 7 has the worst online multiplayer system
I liked Gen 7 more than Gen 8.
Gen 7 is better than Gen 6 and Gen 8 combined.
Gen 7 has soul
It's a very different style of game the mainline audience are used to. Many compare it to a visual novel. You either like it or hate it.
People hate Gen 7 because hating Gen 5 is no longer fashionable
It's just gen 8 for me. I still won't play SwSh because I'm just baffled at how badly they fricked it up.
because sm and lgpe are fricking terrible games
This was a bait post by Wolfe to generate clicks/interactions. He was praising Sun/Moon a day before posting the tweet
Gen 7 was slow and boring as frick. Even the mons were slow along with the other half being fetishbait garbage.
Now that we're moving onto SV, the cycle no longer protects Alola with the "at least it's better than [current game]!" cope.
I don't find the 3d gens that truly awful as much as this place has them to be
this board is full of underaged redditors who can't judge them objectively so that's normal
Trying to decide which game is the worst from gen 6 onwards is a complete waste of time. They are all 0/10 games.
Holy overreaction batman
Sorry I can actually measure quality.
How do you go from 8/10 - 10/10 games to 0/10 games when the formula is nearly identical?
People get tired of the formula after a while and expect a bigger leap when a series goes 3D or to more powerful consoles
PLA is the sort of thing they should have been experimenting with in the early 3DS days
>and expect a bigger leap when a series goes 3D
The series went 3D in gen 4 though. So that mean gen 4 and 5 are 0/10s too?
he's just going to start making up excuses about how gen 4 and 5 aren't """"real"""" 3D games or how the console isn't powerful enough even though a fricking Mario 64 remake was a launch DS game.
You are being disingenuous. It's obvious that when someone says pokémon "went 3D" they're talking about when the pokémon and humans finally became 3D models.
>It's obvious that when someone says pokémon "went 3D" they’re a moron who has inconsistent standards
Of course.
That's exactly why the new games are 0/10
>literally the exact same game as before
>BUT less content, even easier and for some fricking reason, 20x more fricking cutscenes
Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY apart from the god tier online features? Postgame was completely gutted, there was literally no challenge even if you disabled expshare and the game straight up gave you for free a mega lucario for some reason and your friends were even more fricking intrusive than the BW1 rivals
Sounds a lot like Emerald to DP or HGSS to BW. Seems like the 3D games are the only ones held to this standard.
The new region/Pokemon overshadowed it a lot but people were definitely annoyed by that at the start of new gens then too, GF stripping features from the last gen to sell them back in a third version was always shitty
DP sucked compared to Emerald but Platinum was comparable to Emerald. BW1 sucked compared to HGSS but BW2 was comparable to HGSS. XY sucked compared to BW2 and that's all folks
>>BUT less content
>where
https://www.serebii.net/xy/legendary.shtml
Literally just zygarde, a mewtwo without any dungeon and three rehashed roamers. The rest of the content is just the typical battle tower knock off and cutscenes with Looker
>The top 3 hardest games in the series are in gen 7 and 8.
>8
>8
>8
>8
7 has unironically some difficulty spikes, but you have brain damage if you think that 8 isn't the easiest shit in the franchise. I beat that piece of shit with a zero EXP mod and the entire game felt like a normal playthrough with the exception of the champion which was actually overleveled for once. The entire game is fricking braindead
0/10 bait just like the game
I think by 8 he meant Volo
Necrozma and Volo are the only major difficulty spikes I can think of in the franchise
Volo is literally just one fight in a game that offers absolutely no challenge. There's no way that he's talking about PLA
>Volo is literally just one fight in a game
as opposed to zero fights in the game like gen 5?
>6v8 fight that's only hard due to rubberband mechanics that gives the trainer whose pokemon just fainted priority in the next move
>also zero room for strategy other than spamming SE moves and heal items like a monke due to the lack of held items and abilities
If we're talking about artificial difficulty in shitty spinoffs then PMD's Purity Forest is way harder. If we're talking about mainline games, emerald and platinum/hgss are harder due to the battle frontier which prevents you from overleveling and spamming items. There's no longer room for gen 7 and 8 to be in the top 3 """hardest""" games of the franchise. But sure, it's harder than BW2 even if 99% of PLA is non existant due to every single other trainer in the game having less than 6 pokemon in a game that has those fricking rubberband mechanics. Congrats for
>beating
BW2 though
>THE BOSS HAS AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE AGAINST ME? NOOO!!!
have you not played video games other than braindead pokemon games before?
Go play kaizo if you like artificial difficulty like grinding to level 100 just to do the first gym.
Unfair advantages can be a fun thing when the game is built around them. For PLA, since there's no room for creativity and strategy due to the shallow move pools, no abilities and held items, all you can do to beat the fight is to:
1. Grind to 100, which might not even work since you can just get outsped and get 1 hit ko'd due to the fricking rubberband mechanic.
2. Spam healing items in the last Volo pokemon and then beat the two Giratina with sheer numbers alone, which was what I did to beat the fight on my team that was 15 levels behind Volo on my second try.
You beat the boss's unfair braindead advantage with an unfair braindead advantage of your own. Shit game design at its finest and pretty much the definition of artificial difficulty.
This same franchise has people who have a meltdown over an enemy trainer having a level advantage. A lot of Pokemon fans seem to have never played another RPG or game period.
>shitty spinoff game
Purity forest from PMD 1 is the harder game you moron
Volo isn't the only difficult thing in PLA. Trying to catch pokemon in time distortions is hard too. When a Umbreon, Ursaring, and Alpha Steelix spawn and you want to catch them you're fighting a 3v1 with them doing tons of damage.
>Literally just zygarde, a mewtwo without any dungeon and three rehashed roamers
Why do legendaries only count as content? Why are you ignoring the fact that Kalos has more Pokemon to catch than Unova and XY has more Pokemon overall than BW/BW2?
>but you have brain damage if you think that 8 isn't the easiest shit in the franchise
which trainer fights are harder than Volo? please show them to me.
>Why do legendaries only count as content? Why are you ignoring the fact that Kalos has more Pokemon to catch than Unova and XY has more Pokemon overall than BW/BW2?
Did you even read the rest of the post you moron? Also, didn't you shills say that 1 pokemon =/= 1 content to defend SWSHit's, BDSP's and PLA's culls?
>Did you even read the rest of the post you moron
Yes.
>Also, didn't you shills say that 1 pokemon =/= 1 content
Oh so now Pokemon aren't content when it's for a game you like? lmao
>IT'S ONLY HARD BECAUSE HE HAS AN ADVANTAGE AGAINST ME!!!
welcome to well designed video games, unovagay.
ORAS is pretty comparable in scope to the other third versions.
>>BUT less content
where
>even easier
The top 3 hardest games in the series are in gen 7 and 8.
>20x more fricking cutscenes
XY has fewer cutscenes than BW and ESPECIALLY fewer than BW2
>Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY
Trainer customization?
Drastically better graphics including a dynamic 3D camera and Pokemon with a dozen animations each instead of shitty sprite puppets?
Destiny knot breeding?
Better battle facilities that actually use triple and rotation battles?
>M-MUH CHALLENGE
doesn't exist in gen 5 either so I have no clue what you're b***hing about
>Better battle facilities that actually use triple and rotation battles?
Pwt, treehollow,battle subway,battle subway This person is fricking moronic
>doesn't exist in gen 5 either so I have no clue what you're b***hing about
Challenge mode motherfricker
>Drastically better graphics including a dynamic 3D
You comparing nds to 3ds another moron argument
>Pwt, treehollow,battle subway,battle subway
Are worse than the Battle Maison, yes.
>Challenge mode motherfricker
Has no challenge, yes.
>You comparing nds to 3ds
And yet BW2 looks like shit even for a DS game.
>Are worse than the Battle Maison, yes.
They are not lol
>Has no challenge, yes
It's has more challenge than any Pokemon main game
>And yet BW2 looks like shit even for a DS game.
Fyi I'm playing bw2 in Android Emulator not in nds I can turn on the 3d high resolution and change the filter hahaha
So the graphics is great and I'm currently playing it on my phone since my nds is lost
The PWT is the best battle facility in Pokémon
Reasons:
You can battle every gym leader from every region.
You can battle every champion from every region.
You can download tourneys.
You can battle an Ray Rizzo the 2012 World Champion
Rental Master
Mix Master
Type Expert
You can battle them in either single,double,triple or rotation
>Like, what the frick did we get from BW2 to XY
berry farming and ribbons, which gen 5 cut, which gen 5 fanboys seem to like conveniently ignoring even though it would be one of the things they'd constantly b***h about XY for removing if the situations were reversed
>berry farming and ribbons
We have join avenue and medals motherfricker
proving
right
lmao
No it's pretty easy. Gen 8 is the worst and set a whole new standard of bad Pokemon games.
We can stop pretending Gen 8 wasn't the worst any time now.
Not until Gen 10. Once SV releases, SWSH will go from "it HAS to be defended by shills" to doomposters saying "SWSH was bad but at least it's not as bad as SV".
SWSH probably will be better than SV but since it's basically SWSH 2.0 it won't be by much. That's what I mean by a new standard of bad.
Don't care, the e-girlfus make me cum.
Original Diamond and Pearl were so bad they nearly killed Pokemon, so no.
>there's adults on here right now who don't remember this
https://poal.me/ba4yhi
Personally, Gen 7 was one of my favourites
We don't give a shit
8 is worse, but it'll take him a few months to come to that conclusion on his own. After it's no longer the game he's competing in.
WOLFEY IS RIGHT THE POKEMON COMMUNITY IS DIVIDED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS BUT AT LEAST WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT VERLISFY IS A moronic PERSON LOL
Objective ranking
5>6>8>4>7
>Objective ranking
>5>6
Switch 5 and 6.
who is this butthole and why should i care?
A tournament winner at VGC, but he acts like he wins he's suddenly the best player in the world when there's thousands of other divisions and regionals
And his fricking lost to based Strong Jaw Joey in a random tournament anyway
Wolfey's reasoning for hating Gen 7 is the stupidest thing
He's specifically talking about USUM and he thinks that game ruins Gen 7 as a whole for some stupid fricking reason
As a competitive gay, it's obvious he's butthurt that Stackatacka and Clown Alien filter him online
He literally thinks SwSh had perfect tree textures. WTF?
>gen 5: GOAT
ah so he’s another zoomer not worth listening to, that explains it
This is literally such a meme post, homosexuals like these will never post their actual opinions, just ego posts to get attention
I agree on WOLFEY said
Gen 7 was fun enough to finish and consider enjoyable. I won't replay it for a long time but I think it's decent. B/Y is the worst
Gen 6,7 & 8 is GARBAGE
What are going to do now?
It's the truth faaaagott
Honestly my biggest issue with Gen 7 was USUM as a whole. It was basically the same games except with barely noticeable differences, save for the inexplicable shift in Lusamine's motivation, and the objectively worse postgame content that relied primarily on the player having nostalgia for several previous generations instead of a plotline that actually got you invested, like the interpol-focused postgame plot of SuMo expanding more on the Ultra Beasts, Ultra Space, and Fallers in general, and bringing back Anabel of all people as a major character in said postgame.
That being said, at least when you compare original SuMo Lusamine to USUM Lusamine, the character shift isn't as drastic as say... SuMo Anime Lusamine.
It's not perfect but for people to act like a game ruins the generation really makes no sense.
That's like ignoring platinum because base Diamond and Pearl exist.
The shift doesn't matter as much as the fact that we had Lusamine change at all. They really didn't expect people would attribute Lusamine's issues as Child Abuse, it's pretty crazy but I'm glad we still have original Lusamine.
I think one of the big things that turned me off of Gen 7 overall was how they basically dunked on the previous gen's gimmick and talked up the new one.
Gen 6: "Mega Evolution is the culmination of the unbreakable bond between Trainer and Pokemon, allowing them to gain even greater power!"
Gen 7: "Mega Evolving these Pokemon is basically animal abuse and you should feel bad for even wanting to use it. USE Z MOVES INSTEAD, STUPID FOREIGNER."
That's fair
But at least we still had Mega Evolution and Z moves living together
I guess, but making the player feel bad for using Mega Evolution is not a good method of encouraging them to continue using Z-Moves.
USUM is just gen7's crystal/emerald/platinum
Technically yes, but the game makes some downgrades compared to SM in other areas, more bigger than, Crystal not having the Ampharos line for example
Exactly. I don't get why people sperge over it so much. Only difference is that you have two versions. I guess a lot of people got their hopes up for sequel games and got mad when it wasn't the case
The marketing team really didn't help there tbf. They really sucked with the alolan games and killed a lot of the hype before the games were even out with either too much info or being vague on whether the games were 3rd versions of sequels
I think people didn't like the story changes. All the actual gameplay changes were great.
Why not? I admit Lusamine wasn't nearly as good in usum as in sm, but ultra necrozma was fantastic. The ultra reason squad were kinda fun too. Mina actually had a trial this time (even if the powerscaling was off at that point) and rainbow rocket was awesome. I'm genuinely curious here
From what I've seen it's primarily about the Lusamine changes and how it's lessens Lillie's part in the story.
I wouldn't say I hate it, but it starts off very slowly and after Mega Evolution, Z Moves felt like a downgrade.
The 3 main points of interest were being able to complete Zygarde as you progressed the story, Lusamine as the villain, and the professor as the final battle of the main story to become the champion.
The Ultra games tried to pivot Lusamine into a well-intentioned extremist with Necrozma becoming the main threat, which went against what alot of people liked about Lusamine's character in the originals. And the battle to become champion ended up with a better developed Hau. Generally people found the story in Ultra to be more generic. However, it did improve the start of the game's pacing by letting you get your starter earlier. And it added in Totem Stickers so that you can start collecting when you're on the first island instead of needing to wait to start the collectathon on the second island for the Zygarde cells in the original.
Twist n**gers heads off fricking sp*cs n**gers
I know a lot of people don't like the cutscenes. I personally believe that most fans of Pokemon don't really play RPGs/JRPGs outside of Pokemon
I think GF has caught onto this. Scarlet/Violet giving the player more freedom to explore and likely only having story beats happens if the player chooses to interact with certain things is likely the result of that.
> likely only having story beats happens if the player chooses to interact with certain things
We'll see if this actually happens
I'm really curious if the gyms can really be done in any order if what kind of scaling that would mean.
And then there's the open areas. Are they scaled, or is it like the Wild Area where you have to get a few badges before you can catch the Snorlax? Because if so, you'd basically be forced to progress the story if you wanted certain Pokemon.
I'm assuming it's going to be like the wild area where areas are closed off until you get a certain amount of badges or a new HM(equivalent)
The only closed off areas were the ones you needed the water bike for. You could still cross the bridge into the higher level area near Hammerlocke by ignoring what the NPC warns you about.
I don't like open world games. I don't have high hopes for this game
Ideally the best way to do it would be to certain areas locked for either plot progression or a HM/Ride/Equivalent, but those areas won't stop you from going to all 8 Gyms and the main Pokemon League Area. That way being free to complete your league journey is still there while also providing rewards for exploring more with whatever unlocks
Depends
Sword and Shield was essential that except it happens when you remember you have to play through the story.
I think it's obvious the way it's going to happen is that the towns for the next gyms will essentially have their part of the story, and that's probably the best way to do it
>unovagay filtered by volo
my sides
>comp autist that never played a gen1 game
Anytime Wolfey joins a tournament his first instinct on ban picks is Gen 1 and 2, he doesn't try to hide it, he knows he fricking sucks at those
Doesn't matter, because only people who don't like Pokémon games participate in competitive (reason why all his mons are always hacked)
>only people who don't like pokemon play pokemon skillfully
is this a new DStard cope?
Not sure how you came to that conclusion
Do you really want to win if you dont cheat? You are just doing it half assed.
You underestimate the number of people who only play through the game for content and then instantly us PKHex to hack competitive mons in
Gen 7 was okay?
The only real issue were unskippable cutscenes but if this is the only problem with the game then eh?
Wolfe can go frick himself, just as every other pokecelebrite and brainless people that create their opinions basing on regurgitated shit from these mob owners.
The story part of USUM was better than SM, the only real fluke was downgrading Lusamine and pretty ignoring the Faller Anabel and Looker side story
gen 7 was a fantastic breath of fresh air after gen 6 but i'm not ignorant of its problems. having a 10 minute cutscene every route got old after the first one.
But I loved the new pokemon, the story was decent, ultra beasts were cool, I liked z moves.
I can never take competitive or """""pro""""" players seriously.
The only reason that other "PRO NUZLOCKER" gay hates Gen 2 is because he can't use his cheating starts to do any nuzlockes
They hate it because they didn't finish it. It really revealed who plays the games with their brain off
How about we just agree that every gen has both good stuff and some complete bullshit?
That's the obvious agreement
The problem is that Twitter gays will always do this shit for clout posting because they can
4>5>3>2>7>1>6>8
>but
No