Having no dpad makes it ultimately dogshit overall, but it was kino for 3rd person action games. Maybe a new controller more along the lines of the Steam Deck would be good.
I think they will if they ever release their own Steam Machine. Honestly, I think they'd kill it if they just put the Deck's hardware in a box and sold it with a controller for $300.
they won't any time soon
they learned a hard lesson from the last time they just sent it to third party providers
unless they have 99 percent compatibility they won't bother
That was literally a decade ago. Valve has poured countless millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man hours into developing Linux as a viable platform. The Steam Deck already works perfectly fine - they have the hardware and software in place.
>a decade ago
and almost nothing has changed except for slightly better compatibility
you're still missing hardware support and basic shit that would be expected
Valve pushes SteamOS way too slowly for this to be real other than a prototype that will never get out the door
>slightly better compatibility
You're vastly underestimating how much effort Valve has put into Linux. Proton didn't exist a decade ago, nor did a huge amount of Linux-specific software like Winetricks or Lutris. Issues with drivers for hardware can be ignored since a hypothetical Valve-made Steam Machine would have that support out the gate. Things like controllers, keyboards, mice, etc. have nearly universal compatibility with little issue. Some older controllers (e.g. pre-bluetooth Xbox One controllers) have issues, but everything natively supported by Steam itself works just fine either wired or wireless. This can all be seen by docking a Steam Deck, so I'm not sure why taking away the screen and battery and integrating the dock's IO is such a scary concept to you.
Because to the average normal gay they provide different expectations
if it does not just "work" then you are just asking for morons crying all day about how do they make games work and idiots shitting themselves over cawwadooty fortnite not playing
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Those people aren't buying Steam Decks or a hypothetical new Steam Machine. Steam Deck has done perfectly fine with its current limitations relative to a Windows computer.
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then who are you selling it to? because no one who owns a pc already is going to buy one just to get linux with HDR support
steam machines in the first place only had deluded console gays thinking they could get top end performance on a poor gay computer
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Enthusiasts who would like something gaming-capable to be hooked up to their TV without having to deal with docking a Steam Deck. Current HTPC solutions are either things like Intel's NUCs, or giant (relatively) PC cases laid on their sides (see attached - I own this exact case for my HTPC). The Steam Deck's motherboard and hardware is small, especially if you cut out all the controller bits. Docking a Steam Deck is fine, but finding a place to keep the dock accessible while allowing space for the Deck to fit can be asking a lot.
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enthusiast HTPC cases are MUCH smaller now with ITX motherboards and the GPU mounted beneath the motherboard in an isolated area of the case with lotsof airflow.
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Gabe has said it himself in interviews when comparing the deck to the switch: the deck is a gaming enthusiast's piece of hardware. It literally isn't meant for the audience you're describing. People who play Call of Duty and Fortnite could literally not care less about every single pc game ever being playable, and any of them looking for a portable console are going to go for switch. Gabe's specific quote was "if you hold a switch and then hold a steam deck, you're going to know within seconds, just like that, which one is for you."
If the deck didn't wow you upon holding it, it wasn't meant for you and valve isn't trying to market to you. There's literally no money to be made in apeing Nintendo's audience of normies who don't know how to computer, and the CEO of the company blatantly says he's not trying to appeal to them.
Valve's core audience when it comes to their hardware innovations are non-basement dweller needs who want a gaming pc, but would rather not build one.
schizo or not he's at least reporting on leaks when they happen
i'm sure citadel is in fact a real game that valve has been working on, there's too much from datamining to say otherwise
Autists are their demographic and give them more than enough money. See
Gabe has said it himself in interviews when comparing the deck to the switch: the deck is a gaming enthusiast's piece of hardware. It literally isn't meant for the audience you're describing. People who play Call of Duty and Fortnite could literally not care less about every single pc game ever being playable, and any of them looking for a portable console are going to go for switch. Gabe's specific quote was "if you hold a switch and then hold a steam deck, you're going to know within seconds, just like that, which one is for you."
If the deck didn't wow you upon holding it, it wasn't meant for you and valve isn't trying to market to you. There's literally no money to be made in apeing Nintendo's audience of normies who don't know how to computer, and the CEO of the company blatantly says he's not trying to appeal to them.
Valve's core audience when it comes to their hardware innovations are non-basement dweller needs who want a gaming pc, but would rather not build one.
Plus, the steam store is a license to print money; Gabe has said in interviews that this is purely about innovation for them, and that he's happy to keep his physical products afloat over the long term since their company is so profitable overall. They're dipping their toes into new innovations because they can afford to and want to innovate, not because they need or want to sell a bazillion units. If it pushes the industry forward, then gaben is happy.
The mere fact that the Steam Deck has so many chink machines trying to ape it is a testament to how it is innovative and worth pursuing further.
You're only gonna see valve start being concerned with console sales and bottom lines once Gabe croaks. Otherwise, the fat frick billionaire is happy to keep his dream projects afloat merely so he can play Dota 2 in couch and bed.
They already make cheap, capable gaming devices for the living room. They're called consoles. >but muh openness
I know Gabe always talks about this but he's wrong when it comes to consoles. Normalgays don't *want* an open system, they want something that just works when they plug it in.
they really need to get rid of the analog stick it was fricking pointless and would have been better served with the original design of more face buttons or a d-pad
I think the obvious future of gaming, in this form ala Steam Deck and switch, is a hybrid vr/home console/portable setup. Imagine a deck that you dock like a switch, and then it allows couch play OR vr? That would definitely be the future.
I don't see this happening until vr technology is more affordable but it seems like the blatant path forward. Steam only has a chance of capturing this market if they beat Nintendo to the ballpark, because Nintendo has been blatantly working towards vr with their motion controls over the past 20 years.
A hypothetical powerful enough switch could use the screen as a vr headset and the motion control controllers naturally as a vr piece. It's literally only a matter of time making this technology more affordable before this becomes the future. The second a company can sell a portable HD console with motion controls for 800$, then hybrids will really kick off.
This is probably next gen stuff like pushing into 2030s but it seems one of the clearest paths forward. If the switch had stronger specs and could support a split screen, then it would've already been a vr console considering it already has the controllers.
If valve makes a hybrid system that is fully compatible with the steam library, the gaming industry will never recover. I really hope Nintendo doesn't beat them to it because they'll saturate the frick outta the market and stunt innovation.
It didn't flop, they liquidated them so they could clear out the warehouse space after finding out Microsoft was going to send a patent troll after them over the two rear buttons and they would almost certainly get barred from selling more in the near future.
After Valve prevailed on appeal (years later) they launched the Deck with its new Neptune layout.
There almost certainly will be a new Steam Controller at some point, but it will probably be when they launch the new Steam Machine as a base station for their new wireless VR goggles.
More people need to realize that Gabe newell is literally THE wealthiest individual in the game industry. Look it up. There is no other sole person with as much net worth as him. He is also in the top 100 richest Americans alive.
Any project he likes stays alive indefinitely. He's like the Elon Musk of video games; he'll dip into his personal fortune to keep the company and its products afloat, even if it doesn't sell.
Literally all he cares about is playing Dota 2 in bed on his Steam Deck and he'll keep spending millions to make it better. The sales are incidental and only speed it up; they don't support it. That's all Gabe.
I think most people calling for a steam controller 2 just want the Steam Deck layout in controller form. Meaning: no missing buttons, extra track pads into addition to the dpad, and four extra bumpers on the back of the controller
The point of the controller was to enable steam big picture and playing pc games on your TV. I think they realised it doesnt matter anymore, people already use pc on TVs and a normal gaming pad is perfectly fine since nobody wants to play RTS and shit on a controller or a sofa.
Their new concern is no longer extending pc to the living room , its self contained portable hardware that can dock while pushing Linux.
valve doesn't count to 3 and 2 has to really fricking count
homie this isn't a sequel for a controller
it is + cope
Because it bombed
I tried updating the firmware to make it Bluetooth accessible but I could not for the life of me get it to work out.
Same. I still can't get wireless (any form) working on mine.
i have a feeling that if they do it's going to have a similar form factor to the steamdeck's layout.
Having no dpad makes it ultimately dogshit overall, but it was kino for 3rd person action games. Maybe a new controller more along the lines of the Steam Deck would be good.
I think they will if they ever release their own Steam Machine. Honestly, I think they'd kill it if they just put the Deck's hardware in a box and sold it with a controller for $300.
they won't any time soon
they learned a hard lesson from the last time they just sent it to third party providers
unless they have 99 percent compatibility they won't bother
That was literally a decade ago. Valve has poured countless millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man hours into developing Linux as a viable platform. The Steam Deck already works perfectly fine - they have the hardware and software in place.
>a decade ago
and almost nothing has changed except for slightly better compatibility
you're still missing hardware support and basic shit that would be expected
Valve pushes SteamOS way too slowly for this to be real other than a prototype that will never get out the door
>slightly better compatibility
You're vastly underestimating how much effort Valve has put into Linux. Proton didn't exist a decade ago, nor did a huge amount of Linux-specific software like Winetricks or Lutris. Issues with drivers for hardware can be ignored since a hypothetical Valve-made Steam Machine would have that support out the gate. Things like controllers, keyboards, mice, etc. have nearly universal compatibility with little issue. Some older controllers (e.g. pre-bluetooth Xbox One controllers) have issues, but everything natively supported by Steam itself works just fine either wired or wireless. This can all be seen by docking a Steam Deck, so I'm not sure why taking away the screen and battery and integrating the dock's IO is such a scary concept to you.
Because to the average normal gay they provide different expectations
if it does not just "work" then you are just asking for morons crying all day about how do they make games work and idiots shitting themselves over cawwadooty fortnite not playing
Those people aren't buying Steam Decks or a hypothetical new Steam Machine. Steam Deck has done perfectly fine with its current limitations relative to a Windows computer.
then who are you selling it to? because no one who owns a pc already is going to buy one just to get linux with HDR support
steam machines in the first place only had deluded console gays thinking they could get top end performance on a poor gay computer
Enthusiasts who would like something gaming-capable to be hooked up to their TV without having to deal with docking a Steam Deck. Current HTPC solutions are either things like Intel's NUCs, or giant (relatively) PC cases laid on their sides (see attached - I own this exact case for my HTPC). The Steam Deck's motherboard and hardware is small, especially if you cut out all the controller bits. Docking a Steam Deck is fine, but finding a place to keep the dock accessible while allowing space for the Deck to fit can be asking a lot.
enthusiast HTPC cases are MUCH smaller now with ITX motherboards and the GPU mounted beneath the motherboard in an isolated area of the case with lotsof airflow.
Gabe has said it himself in interviews when comparing the deck to the switch: the deck is a gaming enthusiast's piece of hardware. It literally isn't meant for the audience you're describing. People who play Call of Duty and Fortnite could literally not care less about every single pc game ever being playable, and any of them looking for a portable console are going to go for switch. Gabe's specific quote was "if you hold a switch and then hold a steam deck, you're going to know within seconds, just like that, which one is for you."
If the deck didn't wow you upon holding it, it wasn't meant for you and valve isn't trying to market to you. There's literally no money to be made in apeing Nintendo's audience of normies who don't know how to computer, and the CEO of the company blatantly says he's not trying to appeal to them.
Valve's core audience when it comes to their hardware innovations are non-basement dweller needs who want a gaming pc, but would rather not build one.
if you trust the rumor mill
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it's supposed to be a home console that would use proprietary tech to stream wireless gameplay to a VR headset
but the prospect of selling two pieces of hardware just to get the 'deckard' is a tall order that probably won't be realized
>tylermcBlack person
that's not a rumor mill
that's just a schizo lolcow mill
schizo or not he's at least reporting on leaks when they happen
i'm sure citadel is in fact a real game that valve has been working on, there's too much from datamining to say otherwise
Nobody but autists would buy it.
Autists are their demographic and give them more than enough money. See
Plus, the steam store is a license to print money; Gabe has said in interviews that this is purely about innovation for them, and that he's happy to keep his physical products afloat over the long term since their company is so profitable overall. They're dipping their toes into new innovations because they can afford to and want to innovate, not because they need or want to sell a bazillion units. If it pushes the industry forward, then gaben is happy.
The mere fact that the Steam Deck has so many chink machines trying to ape it is a testament to how it is innovative and worth pursuing further.
You're only gonna see valve start being concerned with console sales and bottom lines once Gabe croaks. Otherwise, the fat frick billionaire is happy to keep his dream projects afloat merely so he can play Dota 2 in couch and bed.
They already make cheap, capable gaming devices for the living room. They're called consoles.
>but muh openness
I know Gabe always talks about this but he's wrong when it comes to consoles. Normalgays don't *want* an open system, they want something that just works when they plug it in.
they really need to get rid of the analog stick it was fricking pointless and would have been better served with the original design of more face buttons or a d-pad
I think the obvious future of gaming, in this form ala Steam Deck and switch, is a hybrid vr/home console/portable setup. Imagine a deck that you dock like a switch, and then it allows couch play OR vr? That would definitely be the future.
I don't see this happening until vr technology is more affordable but it seems like the blatant path forward. Steam only has a chance of capturing this market if they beat Nintendo to the ballpark, because Nintendo has been blatantly working towards vr with their motion controls over the past 20 years.
A hypothetical powerful enough switch could use the screen as a vr headset and the motion control controllers naturally as a vr piece. It's literally only a matter of time making this technology more affordable before this becomes the future. The second a company can sell a portable HD console with motion controls for 800$, then hybrids will really kick off.
This is probably next gen stuff like pushing into 2030s but it seems one of the clearest paths forward. If the switch had stronger specs and could support a split screen, then it would've already been a vr console considering it already has the controllers.
If valve makes a hybrid system that is fully compatible with the steam library, the gaming industry will never recover. I really hope Nintendo doesn't beat them to it because they'll saturate the frick outta the market and stunt innovation.
homie they were selling it for 5 Dollars to get rid of it
It flopped so spectacularly badly. Why would they make another one?
It didn't flop, they liquidated them so they could clear out the warehouse space after finding out Microsoft was going to send a patent troll after them over the two rear buttons and they would almost certainly get barred from selling more in the near future.
After Valve prevailed on appeal (years later) they launched the Deck with its new Neptune layout.
There almost certainly will be a new Steam Controller at some point, but it will probably be when they launch the new Steam Machine as a base station for their new wireless VR goggles.
More people need to realize that Gabe newell is literally THE wealthiest individual in the game industry. Look it up. There is no other sole person with as much net worth as him. He is also in the top 100 richest Americans alive.
Any project he likes stays alive indefinitely. He's like the Elon Musk of video games; he'll dip into his personal fortune to keep the company and its products afloat, even if it doesn't sell.
Literally all he cares about is playing Dota 2 in bed on his Steam Deck and he'll keep spending millions to make it better. The sales are incidental and only speed it up; they don't support it. That's all Gabe.
competitors do it better + they got hella sued for making the first one because they didn't pay SCUF for their paddle patent
I like the steam controller but the touchpad is no replacement for a dpad lol
I think most people calling for a steam controller 2 just want the Steam Deck layout in controller form. Meaning: no missing buttons, extra track pads into addition to the dpad, and four extra bumpers on the back of the controller
The point of the controller was to enable steam big picture and playing pc games on your TV. I think they realised it doesnt matter anymore, people already use pc on TVs and a normal gaming pad is perfectly fine since nobody wants to play RTS and shit on a controller or a sofa.
Their new concern is no longer extending pc to the living room , its self contained portable hardware that can dock while pushing Linux.