every modern game does this whole you have to download whats on the disk to play shit. its pointless to even buy physical these days unless you want to resell the game.
This. You don't own physical games anymore anyway. The only argument for them is that a collector might buy them in the future, assuming the fake video game bubble doesn't pop, which it will. Save yourself the plastic and just go digital at this point. Having a physical piece of plastic to put into your proprietary machine means nothing in terms of ownership.
No, we just think you're daft for fixating on the presence of a DVD in a plastic case as if that makes all the difference to whether or not you have control over your ability to continually access the game
These are AIs created by video game corporations to consistently shitpost against game ownership, so eventually you will have no other option but to buy games from their digital stores for $100+
True, but Denuvo exists, and most will give up and just pay for the game to be "part of the discussion" when it releases. Also some games like Sniper Elite 5 will never drop denuvo despite it being a subscription now.
Anon, having a DVD in a case with 'Halo of Duty' printed on it is not the start and end of wether or not you own the game
That is meaningless if it still requires some online account through which the corporation can just decide to ban you from accessing the game through. It's meaningless if the disc barely contains anything and installing the game actually requires you to download the vast majority of the game anyway.
This is why we think you are daft. You are shortsighted. You cannot look beyond the presence of a shiny disc in a piece of plastic.
I don't know about you, anon, but I don't play Halo or CoD games, or any online multiplayer FPS, and I don't play games that require an account to play the game. You're thinking of your own shitty slop. I'm talking about real games.
>buy physical playstation game >forced to install game onto drive in order to play
oops! looks like your console was connected to the internet when you installed your new "physical" game, now you have to download the day 0 patch
Because it's completely fricking obsolete?
Games are pieces of software and everyone has fast enough internet now to download them in minutes.
Every argument for physical is now dead. >physical is faster
Every game requires installation and basically re-downloads itself from day one anyway. >But I might not have internet
Every game requires internet connectivity to update itself to be playable.
>redownloads itself
morons need to stop talking about things they have no idea what they're talking about. They pull from the disk first, then download whatever difference there is
>have to go out >have to ask wagie to open the door so I can get the game >chance that the game isn't even in stock and I have to go further out of my way
vs >buy and start downloading game >go shower >come back and it's ready to play
>Shower >Go outside >Instantly have to shower because going outside makes you unsanitary >repeat
Strangers on the internet have told me i must always be clean and now i can't leave the house.
>"Physical" game >Need digital device to play it back >Small bits of damage make it completely unreadable >Disc rot >9/10 times require an Internet connection and digital download anyway
"Physical" games beyond maybe PS2 era are a massive meme. Even those are on discs that have a high chance of breaking over time. Old-style cartridges from N64 and before are better, but still imperfect.
Collect something more meaningfully physical like books, or records, or cassette tapes or something. No digital garbage required.
Games were doomed before they even started to be unable to be fully owned. Why cry over the loss of essentially nothing? Just backup and pirate.
>Disc rot
Move out of fricking Florida/Hawaii if this is a real problem for you! Disc rot should not even be an issue for most human beings on this planet. A guy living in a hut should have a corner that is dry enough to store physical media.
Bro, I don't leave my house. All these elites are letting criminals and murderers run free. My ass is sitting in this chair for the foreseeable future. It's safe when I'm at home with my guns.
>No actual data on the disk >Internet required for patches that fix day-one bugs in the rare cases that the game is actually on the disk >Takes up shelf space >Actually have to leave the house to go buy it >Have to switch the disk out every time you want to play something different
Meanwhile:
>Look at random shit on Steam >Buy game >Play game
What I thought people cared about game ownership for >The comfort of knowing that you will always be able to come back to that game you love for the rest of your life, that it's beyond the power of some corporation to pluck it away from you or even render it unplayable for every person on Earth
What a shocking amount of people really care about game ownership for >Being able to sell it
The first was true for games made from early gens to gen 6 or so. But now that games are just unimportant slop to be consumed, most people don't care about their preservation.
>requires specific hardware that isn't made anymore to work >console breaks, entire collection is just so much plastic
Emulation is the only realistic path towards preservation. And guess what, it's digital.
It's still clearly better than nothing, which is the inevitability of the possibility of actually playing it on a real PS2
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Anonymous
So many PS2s were made that working PS2 systems will likely outlive most people here who played the PS2 in its historical context. Unless you're a zoomer who only later wanted to play PS2 games, you'll likely always be able to get a replacement PS2.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You understand that there will be a LOT of people who are not even alive yet who may want to experience PS2 games
Think you'll be able to buy one a hundred years from now? Affordably?
Game preservation is something that affects more than just us here and now
8 months ago
Anonymous
This post reeks of virginity
8 months ago
Anonymous
Only virgins care about preserving games for the long-term?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Only virgins care about preserving literal toys for centuries after they die, yes.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Games have been an important part of every culture since the dawn of time
There's no reason to consider video games to be any more expendable and not worth preserving for future generations to play than something like chess or backgammon
8 months ago
Anonymous
Boomers always pretend videogames died in 1983 and modern games are a extreme niche aimed to billonaries manchildren
8 months ago
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Yeah, but that's not my problem, that's theirs if they actually want to play older games. Since they weren't alive to buy the discs when they came out, they're probably already emulating them anyway
>Emulation is the only realistic path towards preservation
This. I used to be big on collecting my favorite systems and games, but there's no point anymore. I've picoboot modded my GCN after I couldn't adjust the laser power anymore. I own an NES, SNES, N64, Master System, Genesis, and Dreamcast with all my favorite games, but it becomes a hassle when I just want to play Street Fighter II turbo or SSB with my friends. A raspberry pi 4 with retroarch does the job better and I don't have to deal with analog to digital conversion boxes or switches to play everything on my TV.
I was born in '96 and if I could get physical copies of PC games in those big boxes (especially if those boxes contained a version of the game that could run offline disconnected from steam or any other service if you choose to do so) I would literally never buy directly from Steam again. If the market is there I feel like GOG would be the one providing the option of getting a physical copy since all of their games are DRM free anyway.
No, we just think you're daft for fixating on the presence of a DVD in a plastic case as if that makes all the difference to whether or not you have control over your ability to continually access the game
I honestly have no idea, you have to find place to store it, you have to bother to stand up find a disc and put it in each time you want to play. Only metal case are a nice decoration for the room but other than that physical copy are annoying.
BTW I'm 32
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I only buy physical games for the switch. I've only seen other zoomers and younger gen alpha kids get switch games at the Walmart, Target, Best Buy, etc. Xbox and Playstation "physical" games require 50gb "patches" to be played, making them useless if the services ever go down. I haven't gotten a physical game on PC since I was young when I got Fallout 3 years after launch for cheap at Walmart. My PC collection has been all digital since then. If physical games actually contained a full copy of the game, I'd buy them. Blame the industry, not the consumer.
The Switch is the last console to buy physical games for. I've been digital since I got both of mine. It felt weird at first having so much money tied to a single digital account, but the convenience is unmatched.
I was on the train once and saw a guy sitting next to me playing on his. Such super rare moment for me because I rarely commute. I took mine out and asked him if he wanted to play any of the usual stuff. Turns out he didn't have any of his physical games on him so we couldn't play anything. I'm always ready to play something with anyone.
I stopped buying physical copies when they stopped making those neat little booklets or just giving you a cardboard 'disc' that tells you to go download the game
because it's pointless. Most physical copies don't even have the actual game on them anymore. They are just download keys, partly because of how large the game, but also because it allows publishers to control their product. Gone are the days of letting your friend borrow your game; that's costing the company money. It's basically theft to them.
Because their single mother households have put them in an environment where they've been conditioned to despise "clutter", and game boxes add to that sense of it.
I have a feeling that physical copies will make a resurgence soon similar to how vinyl records made a come back. Especially with all the other physical slop zoomers and millennials consoom, they will yearn to have physical copies on their shelves. most of them will probably never give a shit about truly owning their games though
This is already the state of affairs with indie games. Everything releases digitally on Steam then the semi-popular ones get boutique physical releases.
>thats why they are buying fricking vinyl records and physical media
the primary reason I like getting physical media is because I have actual ownership of it. Also, music sounds better on vinyl and millennials are the ones who are responsible for that comeback. With that being said, most young people getting physical media are doing it because its a trend and "soul" like you said, but either way they brought back the right market even if its for the wrong reasons.
I'm 33 and used to only buy physical but towards the end of the PS4 gen I started buying digital pretty much just because I was buying so few games anymore that I stopped caring. For comparison in he PS360 gen I played about 300 games but in the PS4 gen I only played about 30 or 40.
I still buy every consolegame physical. I even go to a fricking store. I know I can just order it and have it be delivered the next day but it's just maximum comfy to use my lunchbreak at work to walk to a store and buy it myself.
>live in a small town >have always loved bargain and discount bins >the only store with these has gone from three full bins, to a four-sided floor display, down to a small bin, and now just a rack >soon to be nothing
>physicalgays shit their pants again
Physical can work for static things, like movies and data storage. Games in particular gain no benefit from a physical release. They're not going to mint new carts and discs for patches unless it's a special edition like GOTY editions. You'll have to download a ton of patches anyway.
The only defense of physical games is that devs were forced to actually complete their games before releasing them because they couldn't engooden them with a billion patches or israelite people with eternally updating the same game instead of having to make new ones. But this is a problem with cancerous practices, not an innate quality of physical or digital goods and it only happens because morons pay to go along with it.
No, they weren't. They never were. Even in the days of NES and Atari games were full of bugs and errors that could only ever be fixed by reissuing new carts.
They absolutely did you fricking zoomer. Flickering sprites alone are a bug. Big name games like Double Dragon get shit like "Bimmy and Jimmy", Ninja Gaiden is buggy as hell, even Mario has bugs.
No, that's just a performance limitation of the NES, they chose to let it slide rather than reduce the number of enemies in specific areas. If it was really a 'bug' it would be an easy one for testers to spot and would've been corrected--but they didn't want to compromise to cut down the number of sprites present to do so.
>Big name games like Double Dragon get shit like "Bimmy and Jimmy"
That's a typo, not a bug.
>Ninja Gaiden is buggy as hell, even Mario has bugs.
Not in any way a normal player would perceive without help. The "bugs" are even things like "features" such as the minus world. But people don't find that by accident, they learn how to do a specific input to get to the warp zone in a glitched state to reach the minus world. It isn't the same as booting up Ass Creed Unity and characters have no face.
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https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_bugs_and_glitches
https://gamerant.com/nes-glitches-unbeatable/
inb4 crying about sources
Ninja Gaiden has a bug where you get sent back multiple stages. It shipped with this bug. Some moron chose to call it a challenge rather than fix the bug.
They weren't bug-free, obviously, but a lot more care had to go into making sure they were fit for release. A game getting one or two new disc versions with minor bug fixes is a far cry from something like Cyberpunk v1.0
The only defense of physical games is that devs were forced to actually complete their games before releasing them because they couldn't engooden them with a billion patches or israelite people with eternally updating the same game instead of having to make new ones. But this is a problem with cancerous practices, not an innate quality of physical or digital goods and it only happens because morons pay to go along with it.
I absolutely fricking despise the state of modern gaming. >Got disqualified from military just after I graduated so I'm stuck in the holdover section until I can go back home >We have PS4s/5s/Xboxs etc >We can't even play some of the games in the dorm because they are stuck on the 1.00 versions (the worst versions bugs out the ass etc) >Thats not even mentioning features flatout unavailable to offline players >One dude got a digital PS5 and PS+ ultimate didn't understand why he couldn't play any games so I had to explain to him his mobile data is just going to get shut down since games are also 100+ fricking gigs and it would take him a month to finish one downloaded >Another guy bought MK1 and couldn't even play the story mode because that needs to be downloaded and the characters are locked out because of it >I end up just downloading small games on my mobile data and old as frick PS2 remastered games just to alleviate my boredom and frustration >We end up doing moronic shit instead that gets us introuble >Had to deal with this absolute gayness for 6 weeks
Frick modern gaming.
zoomers are fricking moronic and are convinced that their digital games will be ready and waiting for them forever.
Then 20 years from now when they got money they will be spending thousands to buy a physical copy of their favourite childhood games
Honestly Walmart is fricking garbage for physical media, every single time without fail when I buy one of those complete TV series cases I get home and find out half the discs were loose getting scratched cause the retainers don't work and one of the hinges is broke from wagies being rough with the shipments.
I don't know what else you'd do with that shit, figures don't offer any value if you don't appreciate the media they're based off of, can't even sell those things cause people assume you jizzed all over them.
I stopped buying physical when consoles became pointless in the 8th gen. In the alternate reality where consoles had a reason to exist and I didn't have xbox gamepass, I'd probably still buy physical, at least second hand from gamestop and amazon.
I am 38 and i buy physical only if they have editions with goodies or stuff like that. I started to appreciate the playstation metal boxes, they are cool. But beyond those two exceptions, there is no reason at all to buy physical for pc.
Only old fashioned morons trying to pass off old outdated garbage as something to admire buy physical, anyone with a brain would just use steam or pirate
The Xbox is the only console that is getting dropped by retailers. The Xbox brand is in decay and you're not getting paid enough to shill lies. PS5 and Switch physical games aren't going anywhere.
>PHYSICAL games?
This is consoletard phenomena because their DRM boxes only could run DRM protected shit (if they're not hacked of course). I prefer to make infinite copies of my games and play them even after 20 years on the same platform.
>go to buy physical game >its not finished and buggy as frick >need to download le heckin day 1 patch >shit out of luck if you have no internet then you have a disk with an unfinished game
i stopped buying physical awhile ago besides a few game series that i still love
i only buy physical.
that said, the game actually needs to be worth buying...
havent encountered good games too often... maybe one a year? if even that.
>have to go to walmart
>cost more than digital
>comes with just a CD key and you have to download anyway
What games do this? I see this posted quite a lot yet the games I buy are always on disc (no internet needed).
Last time I bought a physical disk was in 2018 as BFV was ironically 90% off. It didn't come with a CD and just a game code.
Xbox games.
Being able to boot from disk is a basic compliance issue literally everywhere else, but for some reason Microsoft just doesn't care.
>t. Snoy who has never actually used an Xbox
israelitestation and gaybox. Only Ninte do makes real games these days.
every modern game does this whole you have to download whats on the disk to play shit. its pointless to even buy physical these days unless you want to resell the game.
No they really don't, only certain ones do this. Research before you buy.
This. You don't own physical games anymore anyway. The only argument for them is that a collector might buy them in the future, assuming the fake video game bubble doesn't pop, which it will. Save yourself the plastic and just go digital at this point. Having a physical piece of plastic to put into your proprietary machine means nothing in terms of ownership.
These are AIs created by video game corporations to consistently shitpost against game ownership, so eventually you will have no other option but to buy games from their digital stores for $100+
>implying i'm going to pay
piracy is unironically the only way to 100% own a game at this point.
True, but Denuvo exists, and most will give up and just pay for the game to be "part of the discussion" when it releases. Also some games like Sniper Elite 5 will never drop denuvo despite it being a subscription now.
Anon, having a DVD in a case with 'Halo of Duty' printed on it is not the start and end of wether or not you own the game
That is meaningless if it still requires some online account through which the corporation can just decide to ban you from accessing the game through. It's meaningless if the disc barely contains anything and installing the game actually requires you to download the vast majority of the game anyway.
This is why we think you are daft. You are shortsighted. You cannot look beyond the presence of a shiny disc in a piece of plastic.
I don't know about you, anon, but I don't play Halo or CoD games, or any online multiplayer FPS, and I don't play games that require an account to play the game. You're thinking of your own shitty slop. I'm talking about real games.
Like...
Bloodstained and Ghost of Tsushima
I just like having games I enjoy on my shelf and I can afford the space.
>walmart game cost more than digital
why would you spread this lie?
Because they were raised with the internet and everything right at their fingertips. Why go outside when you can just play ASAP.
>buy physical playstation game
>forced to install game onto drive in order to play
oops! looks like your console was connected to the internet when you installed your new "physical" game, now you have to download the day 0 patch
Because zoomers are mostly on PC, only millenials are still playing on consoles
They're on mobile, Steam is for 30 year old losers
I'm a 42 year old loser who uses Steam.
Because it's completely fricking obsolete?
Games are pieces of software and everyone has fast enough internet now to download them in minutes.
Every argument for physical is now dead.
>physical is faster
Every game requires installation and basically re-downloads itself from day one anyway.
>But I might not have internet
Every game requires internet connectivity to update itself to be playable.
>redownloads itself
morons need to stop talking about things they have no idea what they're talking about. They pull from the disk first, then download whatever difference there is
modern day patches can be as big as the game itself
Sorry for being rude. You're right about that it can happen sometimes with those crap live service games and CoD
Can't sell digital or lend/gift to others also digital can be delisted, physical will never be obsolete
>digital can be delisted, physical will never be obsolete
This thing that never happens might happen.
Also just backup cracked versions if you're that worried, idiot
I lend my Steam games to my brother all the time.
Zoomers are basically an entire generation of the shut in millennial losers
I never see zoomers when I go shopping
Probably because games suck now. I'm not buying them either. Just play old vidya. Keep your money, sit on it.
You’re getting old and out of touch. Afraid to try new things. Afraid to expand your horizons. Glad I’m not like you.
>have to go out
>have to ask wagie to open the door so I can get the game
>chance that the game isn't even in stock and I have to go further out of my way
vs
>buy and start downloading game
>go shower
>come back and it's ready to play
>Ganker
>shower
>Shower
>Go outside
>Instantly have to shower because going outside makes you unsanitary
>repeat
Strangers on the internet have told me i must always be clean and now i can't leave the house.
Take a shower, stinky
because used market can reflect game's value in long term because price is determined by gamers.
>no physical games
>no game kiosks
The west has completely and unequivocally fallen
Becasue they figured out hoarding pieces of plastic to "preserve media" is fricking stupid. Also having a "collection" isn't a hobby.
People prefer convenience. It has nothing to do with generations
I don't understand. Then who are the us and who are the them in this situation?
>"Physical" game
>Need digital device to play it back
>Small bits of damage make it completely unreadable
>Disc rot
>9/10 times require an Internet connection and digital download anyway
"Physical" games beyond maybe PS2 era are a massive meme. Even those are on discs that have a high chance of breaking over time. Old-style cartridges from N64 and before are better, but still imperfect.
Collect something more meaningfully physical like books, or records, or cassette tapes or something. No digital garbage required.
Games were doomed before they even started to be unable to be fully owned. Why cry over the loss of essentially nothing? Just backup and pirate.
>Disc rot
Move out of fricking Florida/Hawaii if this is a real problem for you! Disc rot should not even be an issue for most human beings on this planet. A guy living in a hut should have a corner that is dry enough to store physical media.
You forget a large portion of the world lives in subhuman fish climates where they are breathing mostly water
Bro, I don't leave my house. All these elites are letting criminals and murderers run free. My ass is sitting in this chair for the foreseeable future. It's safe when I'm at home with my guns.
Millennial here (1994)
There's no fricking point anymore.
>No actual data on the disk
>Internet required for patches that fix day-one bugs in the rare cases that the game is actually on the disk
>Takes up shelf space
>Actually have to leave the house to go buy it
>Have to switch the disk out every time you want to play something different
Meanwhile:
>Look at random shit on Steam
>Buy game
>Play game
>Sell used game on ebay
wow the power of ownership
I mean, yeah. That's the down-side.
Problem is, why would I as a consumer buy any used game when I can just wait for a steam sale or something?
Playing games on steam requires a gpu which may cost up to 2000 dollars.
Dude no.
Top of the line costs like $900 right now unless you go full moron and get a 4090.
4080 cost 1200 though
Used games often beat Steam sales
What I thought people cared about game ownership for
>The comfort of knowing that you will always be able to come back to that game you love for the rest of your life, that it's beyond the power of some corporation to pluck it away from you or even render it unplayable for every person on Earth
What a shocking amount of people really care about game ownership for
>Being able to sell it
The first was true for games made from early gens to gen 6 or so. But now that games are just unimportant slop to be consumed, most people don't care about their preservation.
>requires specific hardware that isn't made anymore to work
>console breaks, entire collection is just so much plastic
Emulation is the only realistic path towards preservation. And guess what, it's digital.
Genesis games require specific hardware that isn't made anymore to work
Have you played a game on PCSX2 lately?
It's still clearly better than nothing, which is the inevitability of the possibility of actually playing it on a real PS2
So many PS2s were made that working PS2 systems will likely outlive most people here who played the PS2 in its historical context. Unless you're a zoomer who only later wanted to play PS2 games, you'll likely always be able to get a replacement PS2.
You understand that there will be a LOT of people who are not even alive yet who may want to experience PS2 games
Think you'll be able to buy one a hundred years from now? Affordably?
Game preservation is something that affects more than just us here and now
This post reeks of virginity
Only virgins care about preserving games for the long-term?
Only virgins care about preserving literal toys for centuries after they die, yes.
Games have been an important part of every culture since the dawn of time
There's no reason to consider video games to be any more expendable and not worth preserving for future generations to play than something like chess or backgammon
Boomers always pretend videogames died in 1983 and modern games are a extreme niche aimed to billonaries manchildren
Yeah, but that's not my problem, that's theirs if they actually want to play older games. Since they weren't alive to buy the discs when they came out, they're probably already emulating them anyway
>Emulation is the only realistic path towards preservation
This. I used to be big on collecting my favorite systems and games, but there's no point anymore. I've picoboot modded my GCN after I couldn't adjust the laser power anymore. I own an NES, SNES, N64, Master System, Genesis, and Dreamcast with all my favorite games, but it becomes a hassle when I just want to play Street Fighter II turbo or SSB with my friends. A raspberry pi 4 with retroarch does the job better and I don't have to deal with analog to digital conversion boxes or switches to play everything on my TV.
Its such a hassle to sell stuff online nowadays that its not worth the 30 get back from it
>x here
gb2youtube gay, you don't belong on an anonymous site.
Would you rather I had:
>Be me
I was born in '96 and if I could get physical copies of PC games in those big boxes (especially if those boxes contained a version of the game that could run offline disconnected from steam or any other service if you choose to do so) I would literally never buy directly from Steam again. If the market is there I feel like GOG would be the one providing the option of getting a physical copy since all of their games are DRM free anyway.
What's a dvd?
>Want Game:The Game
>goto gamestore
>Wtf no Game?
>buy digitally
Its a mystery
>People justifying their own enslavement
Or all these digitalzoids just paid viral marketers or AIs?
They are demoralized.
No, we just think you're daft for fixating on the presence of a DVD in a plastic case as if that makes all the difference to whether or not you have control over your ability to continually access the game
I honestly have no idea, you have to find place to store it, you have to bother to stand up find a disc and put it in each time you want to play. Only metal case are a nice decoration for the room but other than that physical copy are annoying.
BTW I'm 32
I'm lazy to the point where getting up amd changing a disk/cart is annoying.
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
>Zoomers
I'm 33.
because if I'm going to buy physical, Amazon exists
Is there supposed to be a difference between game files on a DVD and game files on an external drive
Depends on the drm. If you have a cracked ver or a gog installer, then you're fine.
X may Y
X allegedly did Y
Z could possibly A in the realm of infinity there is a chance
Journalism is gossip now and ~~*journos*~~ don't care but it pisses me off.
Next Journalist Clickbait headline: Microsoft may require people to take a rectum test to install Windows 12 which will be required for future PC games.
I'm a millennial and the last time I bought a physical game was 10 years ago. Simply no point
There's no such thing as a physical video game
Can you resell and play your digital game forever? Didn't think so homosexual.
Yes.
Bro all video games are digital
nothing about physical games is "forever".
your storage solution does not cancel out entropy.
Shhh, he thinks he'll be buried with his disc's and take them into eternity. Let him dream.
I only buy physical games for the switch. I've only seen other zoomers and younger gen alpha kids get switch games at the Walmart, Target, Best Buy, etc. Xbox and Playstation "physical" games require 50gb "patches" to be played, making them useless if the services ever go down. I haven't gotten a physical game on PC since I was young when I got Fallout 3 years after launch for cheap at Walmart. My PC collection has been all digital since then. If physical games actually contained a full copy of the game, I'd buy them. Blame the industry, not the consumer.
The Switch is the last console to buy physical games for. I've been digital since I got both of mine. It felt weird at first having so much money tied to a single digital account, but the convenience is unmatched.
I was on the train once and saw a guy sitting next to me playing on his. Such super rare moment for me because I rarely commute. I took mine out and asked him if he wanted to play any of the usual stuff. Turns out he didn't have any of his physical games on him so we couldn't play anything. I'm always ready to play something with anyone.
I stopped buying physical copies when they stopped making those neat little booklets or just giving you a cardboard 'disc' that tells you to go download the game
because it's pointless. Most physical copies don't even have the actual game on them anymore. They are just download keys, partly because of how large the game, but also because it allows publishers to control their product. Gone are the days of letting your friend borrow your game; that's costing the company money. It's basically theft to them.
Good morning, sir. Please stop demoralizing the video game consumers with your slop posts which are only true for at most 20% of releases today.
Because their single mother households have put them in an environment where they've been conditioned to despise "clutter", and game boxes add to that sense of it.
This is not a zoomer problem this is a new games being expensive ESG slop problem.
I have a feeling that physical copies will make a resurgence soon similar to how vinyl records made a come back. Especially with all the other physical slop zoomers and millennials consoom, they will yearn to have physical copies on their shelves.
most of them will probably never give a shit about truly owning their games though
This is already the state of affairs with indie games. Everything releases digitally on Steam then the semi-popular ones get boutique physical releases.
yeah but what I mean is that I suspect it will be the norm, probably not for multiplayer slop but for single player games
You're objectively wrong
zoomers generation has no culture or anything, thats why they are buying fricking vinyl records and physical media.
it's soul bro!
>thats why they are buying fricking vinyl records and physical media
the primary reason I like getting physical media is because I have actual ownership of it. Also, music sounds better on vinyl and millennials are the ones who are responsible for that comeback. With that being said, most young people getting physical media are doing it because its a trend and "soul" like you said, but either way they brought back the right market even if its for the wrong reasons.
>Also, music sounds better on vinyl
It doesn't.
I'm 33 and used to only buy physical but towards the end of the PS4 gen I started buying digital pretty much just because I was buying so few games anymore that I stopped caring. For comparison in he PS360 gen I played about 300 games but in the PS4 gen I only played about 30 or 40.
you could get shot
I still buy every consolegame physical. I even go to a fricking store. I know I can just order it and have it be delivered the next day but it's just maximum comfy to use my lunchbreak at work to walk to a store and buy it myself.
>live in a small town
>have always loved bargain and discount bins
>the only store with these has gone from three full bins, to a four-sided floor display, down to a small bin, and now just a rack
>soon to be nothing
>physicalgays shit their pants again
Physical can work for static things, like movies and data storage. Games in particular gain no benefit from a physical release. They're not going to mint new carts and discs for patches unless it's a special edition like GOTY editions. You'll have to download a ton of patches anyway.
Hi Phil. No, I haven't subscribed to gamepass, you can take your gamepass and shove it.
meds
No, they weren't. They never were. Even in the days of NES and Atari games were full of bugs and errors that could only ever be fixed by reissuing new carts.
The good games didn't have many bugs you'd run into in regular play.
They absolutely did you fricking zoomer. Flickering sprites alone are a bug. Big name games like Double Dragon get shit like "Bimmy and Jimmy", Ninja Gaiden is buggy as hell, even Mario has bugs.
>Flickering sprites alone are a bug.
No, that's just a performance limitation of the NES, they chose to let it slide rather than reduce the number of enemies in specific areas. If it was really a 'bug' it would be an easy one for testers to spot and would've been corrected--but they didn't want to compromise to cut down the number of sprites present to do so.
>Big name games like Double Dragon get shit like "Bimmy and Jimmy"
That's a typo, not a bug.
>Ninja Gaiden is buggy as hell, even Mario has bugs.
Not in any way a normal player would perceive without help. The "bugs" are even things like "features" such as the minus world. But people don't find that by accident, they learn how to do a specific input to get to the warp zone in a glitched state to reach the minus world. It isn't the same as booting up Ass Creed Unity and characters have no face.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_bugs_and_glitches
https://gamerant.com/nes-glitches-unbeatable/
inb4 crying about sources
Ninja Gaiden has a bug where you get sent back multiple stages. It shipped with this bug. Some moron chose to call it a challenge rather than fix the bug.
They weren't bug-free, obviously, but a lot more care had to go into making sure they were fit for release. A game getting one or two new disc versions with minor bug fixes is a far cry from something like Cyberpunk v1.0
The only defense of physical games is that devs were forced to actually complete their games before releasing them because they couldn't engooden them with a billion patches or israelite people with eternally updating the same game instead of having to make new ones. But this is a problem with cancerous practices, not an innate quality of physical or digital goods and it only happens because morons pay to go along with it.
because there are no longer physical games, new PCs have no CD readers, you just get an empty box with a code
>new PCs have no CD readers,
You don't know what a disc drive is called? You buy PCs that you don't build yourself?
I absolutely fricking despise the state of modern gaming.
>Got disqualified from military just after I graduated so I'm stuck in the holdover section until I can go back home
>We have PS4s/5s/Xboxs etc
>We can't even play some of the games in the dorm because they are stuck on the 1.00 versions (the worst versions bugs out the ass etc)
>Thats not even mentioning features flatout unavailable to offline players
>One dude got a digital PS5 and PS+ ultimate didn't understand why he couldn't play any games so I had to explain to him his mobile data is just going to get shut down since games are also 100+ fricking gigs and it would take him a month to finish one downloaded
>Another guy bought MK1 and couldn't even play the story mode because that needs to be downloaded and the characters are locked out because of it
>I end up just downloading small games on my mobile data and old as frick PS2 remastered games just to alleviate my boredom and frustration
>We end up doing moronic shit instead that gets us introuble
>Had to deal with this absolute gayness for 6 weeks
Frick modern gaming.
zoomers are fricking moronic and are convinced that their digital games will be ready and waiting for them forever.
Then 20 years from now when they got money they will be spending thousands to buy a physical copy of their favourite childhood games
I mean, if you take basic steps to preserve the game's files, then yes, it will be there for you forever
Who the frick buys video games from Walmart?
They still still PS2 games for 40 there
Honestly Walmart is fricking garbage for physical media, every single time without fail when I buy one of those complete TV series cases I get home and find out half the discs were loose getting scratched cause the retainers don't work and one of the hinges is broke from wagies being rough with the shipments.
is this exactly news? walmart has always been suburban slop
>Chicago
Gee I wonder what could have happened?
>waste time swapping discs/cartridges
>waste shelf space with dumb boxes when I can just put some books or figures there.
>Someone is going to have to sort through all those when you die
>Or just sweep them all into a bin
yes, also their problem, not mine.
I'd just have fun recording videos destroying them or use them for target practice with my .22, I'll find a use for that useless overpriced plastic.
>or use them for target practice with my .22,
do mutts really?
I don't know what else you'd do with that shit, figures don't offer any value if you don't appreciate the media they're based off of, can't even sell those things cause people assume you jizzed all over them.
I get it, you're just moronic.
>.22
You will probably not even scratch one with that pussy caliber.
>superior nippon plastics molded one thousand times
NTA but they will lose thousands of dollars or whatever. And after you die why the frick do you care?
I stopped buying physical when consoles became pointless in the 8th gen. In the alternate reality where consoles had a reason to exist and I didn't have xbox gamepass, I'd probably still buy physical, at least second hand from gamestop and amazon.
You know, if physical was still a thing on PC, we'd be seeing 10+ discs games. Steam killed Bluray adoption on PC
I am 38 and i buy physical only if they have editions with goodies or stuff like that. I started to appreciate the playstation metal boxes, they are cool. But beyond those two exceptions, there is no reason at all to buy physical for pc.
Only old fashioned morons trying to pass off old outdated garbage as something to admire buy physical, anyone with a brain would just use steam or pirate
I'm not a zoomer so I have to ask, buy?
Trying to find someone with a key for the cabinet was always a pain in the ass
The Xbox is the only console that is getting dropped by retailers. The Xbox brand is in decay and you're not getting paid enough to shill lies. PS5 and Switch physical games aren't going anywhere.
Because I only buy games that I want to keep so the resell aspect of physical games doesn't appeal for me
my reason is because the game usually isnt on the disk anymore at least nintendo about 60% of the time actually has the game on the cartrage
>PHYSICAL games?
This is consoletard phenomena because their DRM boxes only could run DRM protected shit (if they're not hacked of course). I prefer to make infinite copies of my games and play them even after 20 years on the same platform.
Why do lincucks INSIST on opening up their terminal and having it display useless information in every single screencap they choose to post?
>i use arch btw :3
>buying physical games in 2023
There’s barely any data on the discs, no manuals and the back cover is a wall of legal crap. What’s the point.
>go to buy physical game
>its not finished and buggy as frick
>need to download le heckin day 1 patch
>shit out of luck if you have no internet then you have a disk with an unfinished game
i stopped buying physical awhile ago besides a few game series that i still love
i only buy physical.
that said, the game actually needs to be worth buying...
havent encountered good games too often... maybe one a year? if even that.