Why dp PS2 games look so jagged?

Why dp PS2 games look so jagged?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of aliasing

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sony was too wienery coming from the PS1 and didn't think to futureproof enough their new system, specially as most of the development went towards having a DVD player. As such, the console looks a generation behind the XBOX or the GC, sometimes even the DC. It looks low definition by default because of the jaggies

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Has glaring artifacts on their first two wildly successful consoles
      >Finally gets 3d right with their third one
      >Ends up in last place
      Why was Sony like this?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        But they didn't get it right with the PS3; that system had a proper GPU slapped into it after Sony realized the Cell processor couldn't carry the entire system on it's back, so the GPU they slapped in isn't really equiped as well as the 360's GPU at handling games of that era. Anything more impressive is usually offloaded to the Cell processor.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why dp PS2 games look so jagged?
    Predominantly interlaced content.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      480i

      Everyone b***hing about PS2 interlacing misses the point that the overwhelming majority of players used composite for Dreamcast, Xbox, and Gamecube. This is indisputable. The sales of EDTV's proves this. The fact these consoles only shipped with composite cables proves this. The availability and price of official component/RGB cables today proves this—they are often more expensive than the console itself.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't matter what people used I don't even know why you're bringing it up

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't even know why you're bringing it up

          >Why dp PS2 games look so jagged?
          Predominantly interlaced content.

          >Predominantly interlaced content

          480i

          >480i

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Right, so it was a dumb point. If we pretend it's 2004 then interlacing doesn't count. And if we stop pretending it's 2004, then rgb and such are expensive options, which isn't even true. In summary, a meaningless tangent

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why is op such a homo?

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    because sony is the edgy console

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    CRTs naturally did a pretty good job of hiding that.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    480i

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    no vaseline

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No antialiasing, sub-480 graphics a lot of the time, interlacing out the ass. Looks alright on a 15khz TV though. Might as well emulate in HD otherwise.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >jagged
    Never noticed an issue ever.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The PS2 has 4MB of dedicated video memory, which isn't much. The Dreamcast had 8MB. Xbox and Gamecube used system RAM instead.
    Many PS2 games reduced VRAM usage by lowering the resolution. 512x448 is a common target for PS2 games, compared to 640x480 for "full" SD.
    Another way to reduce VRAM usage is to do field rendering. This halves the vertical resolution by drawing interlaced fields instead of frames and introduces combing artifacts. Ridge Racer V does this.
    Those techniques introduce plenty of jaggies by themselves, but on PS2 hardware, they also disable progressive output which makes it even worse.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      So basically Sony cheapened out on the PS2 to make way for the DVD

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, Sony bet on a specific way of doing graphics. By using blazing fast VRAM and immensely hacky ways to process effects, they can make a less complex graphics chip while still being like 80% of the way there in visual.
        The VRAM on the PS2 has a bus width of 2560-bit. That's not a typo. Its bandwidth is 48GB/s. For reference, the Xbox 360's VRAM bandwidth is 22.4GB/s. It took until 2006 for the PC market to produce a card with that much bandwidth.
        And RAM that fast isn't cheap. But at the heart of the design is the fact that Sony had the manufacturing capability to make every chip in it, and Sony wanted to make every chip in it. Making fast RAM is easier than making a relatively fully featured graphics chip.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most GC games are 512x448 as well

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