why even have humans in a FANTASY world tho?
I don't see how a setting can be shit without them anyways it's just a race
why even have humans in a FANTASY world tho?
why even have humans in a FANTASY world tho?
I don't see how a setting can be shit without them anyways it's just a race
>inflammatory statement
>written in lowercase
You know who you are. You're here to stir shit and cause a flamewar over incredibly trivial shit while contributing absolutely nothing to the board. Go down a can of gasoline, homosexual.
Honest thoughts to anyone else on this thread: Don't let a moron like this dictate how you play make believe. Make a setting with humans. Make a setting with no humans. It doesn't matter. It's your world, because you are the creator, you are the GM, and it's your game which is more than can be said for this lobotomized smarmy OP. The angrier you get over useless squabbles, the happier OP gets. Deny him the satisfaction and live a joyful, fulfilled life knowing that he won't.
No, I totally agree with you. I tried to figure out why my setting would have humans until I realised that it didn't have to have humans at all. It's a weird concoction of magical beings like the bathhouse in Spirited Away.
This is true tho
Based fpbp
It's fantasy, like you said. There aren't conventions on what constitutes fantasy in terms of races so you can do what the frick you want.
>Inb4 humans are conventional hurr durr
Yes and? You use a frickload of stuff from rl in fantasy, like forests, earthly geography, conventional physics laws, unless you're making a setting based on d&d far realm and even then you're basically relying to acid trip visions made by humans in our world. In fact ALL fantasy settings are basically "just like our world unless noted otherwise".
For some people the hobby only exists to give them something to be angry about.
I see you AI
>This is your brain on D&D
This. Some homosexual has been going around making bait posts all day, even outright lying just to start shit.
thank you anon. well said.
Good to see that some people on /tg/ are still capable of making exquisite posts.
Slavery has been abolished, you can't just own someone like that.
It's a homosexual nogames containment thread. Nogames homosexuals think traditional games are just like video games, if they shove ugly tiefling elf Black folk down your throat you must take it, not realizing these are social games and games are only as homosexualy as your players are. WotC can make all their settings 100% Black person elves and that won't bother me the least because I play with real human beings and not shitlibs so we just have characters we actually like instead.
Humans are the thematic balance to all the other races and monsters in a fantasy setting
but how? what balance...
thematic
why even have non-humans races in a FANTASY world tho?
I don't see how a setting can be shit without them anyways it's just a bunch of races
That guy looks like Cristiano Ronaldo.
The best MTG plane has no humans
I know I gave up on having anything more than one human race in my settings after the events of the last couple of years. That's why my Gaslamp Fantasy setting's Africa is a hodgebodge of magical and pulpy nations, including a nation of hyper-advanced ultra-wealthy psionic gorillas, catgirl (magi)technobarbarians descended from a crashed spelljammer, the original homeland of the dwarves, a nation of minotaurs who change from male to female as they age, and maybe a race of river-dwelling dinosaur-riding gnomes, who may or may not be an all-femboy race who reproduce through mpreg if I decide to sprinkle in some inspiration from that one African myth about the pregnant boy.
What event? Also, jesus, how much on your setting is your gay coomer fantasy / genuine freaky stuff?
>Also, jesus, how much on your setting is your gay coomer fantasy / genuine freaky stuff?
No idea what you mean by this.
>Preggo boys, genderbending
I mean come on anon.
Well, not!Britain does have halflings as the product of a widespread eugenics program to crossbreed humans and dwarves to produce superior serfs for the draconic rulers, so there are lot of shortstacks running around.
Also, dragonborn routinely marry (or at least shag) humans, dwarves and halflings because their own genes are so fecked up that procreating with their own kind produces kobolds in a fantasy homage to Prince Charles II "the Bewitched" Hapsburg of Spain, to the point human guy/dragonborn woman porn is considered mainstream (in so far as porn can ever be considered mainstream, of course).
Other than that, I have no idea what you're talking about...
Okok, leaving that aside what di you mean with "after the events of the last couple of years" in your first post?
OP continues to amaze by somehow surviving with wieners blocking every inch of his windpipe, truly extraordinary.
Anyway on another note why is 5e art so consistently ugly? I can't even put my finger on why, it's just hideous.
>Anyway on another note why is 5e art so consistently ugly? I can't even put my finger on why, it's just hideous.
Basically they are corporate stock photos used by the "artist" to outline their drawing.
Ikr? My fantasy dnd setting has only humans, oh they're all white males as well. All npcs are big tatties white women
Now if only it had any players
>why even have humans in a FANTASY world tho?
For sex slaves.
Humans are the hottest species and the most skilled at pleasing everything, all the other species wanna frick them. So they become the pleasure slave race.
>Turn humans into sex slaves
>A century later you become the sex slaves
Bad idea, compared to other monkeys humans have huge dicks
My introduction to fantasy back in the 90s were the Hobbit and 4th edition Warhammer. So humans were there but they're not necessarily the centre of the setting or even the protagonists.
It's disappointing to me how every single setting is now just modern-day California with swords and spells.
>Supreme species
Humans are objectively inferior to other fantasy species though, considering those species are all just humans plus.
And yet routinely, humans beat and surpass them.
Which makes no goddamn sense. If you wanted a realistic fantasy setting, or even just one that made a lick of sense, humanity would be extinct or near-extinct and hiding in whatever stinking, filthy holes they could find.
Soviets beat the Third Reich.
Maybe the goal of the game in your hypothetical is to explore concepts with humans that can't be explored in our real world, because of their impossible or improbable nature.
Not all fantasy has to be one thing. Quit getting hung up over what other people are doing and do your own thing, moron.
We can divide all settings with non-human civilised species into two categories:
- good settings in which non-humans are actually distinct from humans with completely different worldviews, etc. (elves being immortal and that actually having an effect on how they behave and think)
- shitty settings in which non-humans are just a real-world culture with some minor changes (elves are uuuuuh, irish people with pointy ears, and they uuuuuh are racist against dwarves ahahahah)
If you have a setting without humans, but the humans are just le different cultures or le different aesthetics then it doesn't mean anything. You actually have a world with just humans but you call them different things
I don't know if I make sense but I tried my best to explain
Congratulations. You no longer have point of reference for your audience/players and they don't give a shit about your world!
Has there been any fantasy setting where no humans was actually necessary or interesting?
Only thing that comes to mind is Dark Crystal, and that was because human puppets would have been too uncanny valley.
lorwyn
Lorwyn hobbits were basially humans, but short. Same social structure and dynamics, same values and beliefs, etc. Making species that are humans who just look very slightly different is not interesting at all.
This would be true if the lorwyn kithkin weren't empathic psychics connected by the thoughtweft.
Yeah, maybe novelisations made a bigger deal out of it, but just looking at the cards they felt like humans.
You're going based off of physical appearances and the kithkin cards often referenced the thoughtweft.
Planewalkers that visited it are the humans in the setting.
The lorwyn five never visited lorwyn, they were only included because they didn't fit into time spiral.
I don't see any humans in your picture tough
No one here has, or will, played Ironclaw
I have. Ironclaw actually has a quality ruleset, if you can get beyond the furhomosexualry. I played with my gf, some of their other female friends, and another girl's bf that was dragged along. I know it sounds crazy, but there are tons of girls out there that just want to "play a kitty" instead of frick their characters. It was an astonishing whitepill, actually, to see a group of women in one place all doing some fairly wholesome and cute shit. They were also into Mouse Guard
Really when I read the book, there's nothing about it that screamed degenerate furhomosexualry, even if it's still unapologetically furry. It feels more from a time when the most autistic furries were into something like Albedo Anthropomorphics rather than (just) Sonic inflation porn. I mean look at the art, when the art is being consistent and decent you can see why girls would be into it.
It's creative, early Renaissance "but what if animals", so horses are their own races and people get buy on lizards. That kind of stuff.
>to see a group of women in one place all doing some fairly wholesome and cute shit
Despite everything, I still love women.
I know it sounds weird but looking at that picture makes me want to insert my reproductive organ inside those big choco nostrils, a nosejob I think this could be called, she is kinda cute somehow
Reminds me of a girl that liked me back in high school, I get it
Because 99% of the people who play games are humans and they have a terribly hard time play-acting as other humans, let alone 8-limbed psychic crystals that smell colors
Who are the 1%
8-limbed psychic crystals that smell colors obviously
Humans make the setting more grounded. If everything is fantastical, nothing is.
You can have stuff like the Hobbit. Fantasy main character, still grounded.
If you have to ask then your world building abilities are really shallow. If you knew how to make one without humans you would already know why to have them. It's the kind of "you need to know the rules in order to break them" shit.
My setting doesn't have humans but people will still likely point to one race and claim they're analogous.
Play Talislanta then
I like scifi settings where humans are implied to have gone extinct after arrogantly attacking a more advanced species. It really does add a rich layer of otherworldly thought to see a setting that the human thought process simply could not survive in.
Give me an arbitrary number of examples
NTA, but I give you -1 examples. You are now required to give me one example.
my thoughts too. it's why i have no humans in my setting, and i also went further to remove elves and dwarves. none of that shit needs to be, we can all stand to be a little more creative and original. make a fantasy world, dont borrow many or any ideas from elsewhere, and give storied reasons for why the world is the way it is. trust me.
To be honest, a fantasy setting that doesn't use any Tolkien races could be interesting
it is! because everything is new, fresh, and you can be given any piece of information for anything you experience, and it can be exciting and surprising
There are no humans in my setting, only funny creechers and the occasional wizard or skeleton.
Are there any dog/canines? I don't know why but whenever there's catfolk in a setting I feel like there should also be dogfolk and vice versa
Because humanity is the pinnacle of all races, and will outlive and enslave everyone else.
Frick off, gayman spammer.
Frick off 5e gay
personally, I don't like fantasy races, I think they're poorly utilized in most settings, and I think different human ethnicities and cultures are more interesting
I feel entirely opposite. Largely because outside of tabletop, everything fantasy just doubles down on either the same old elves dwarves orcs, etc. over and over or just humans only anyway.
Because homosexuals are so afraid of being accused as furry they'll put in something that doesn't make sense for a world
My humans are like a template race, they were created by chance and not expected to survive, harpies, centaurs and goblins, were created to take most of what makes humanity great and add to it.
Why would the gods in a fantasy setting create humans, especially if they already have races that are so superior to them, like elves in particular, for that matter? Why did the gods create humans in your setting?
Humans are special and everything before us no matter how great they may seem were just a beta test.
Okay, do you have a link to this article? I’d like to learn more about this.
>but we wuz dinosaurs n sheeit
>fish as a type of animal
>birds distinct from reptiles
>having a stable body plan that was successfull for literal ages is a bad thing
>no mention of insects
>no mention of bacteria
Literal shit pop science for basedjacks
Humans were created first, goblins are humanoid meaning they were created based on humans.
Being one of the few races with high intelligence.
If non-humans are so dumb, why are they still around? Also, why would the gods go from humans to goblins?
Who else is supposed to give out scritches and headpats?
Besides being "average" or "adaptable", what are some good niches that humans can take in a fantasy world? What role do they take in your setting specifically?
slaves
All players are humans, did you know that? Gygax discussed the importance of human centered game worlds years ago.
Yep, gygax was an Howardgay, more into conan sword & sorcery stuff than tolkien fantasy but got bombarded by people wanting to play elves and dwarves so he caved in.
Moral of the story: freakshit tards were ruining the hobby from its inception.
And yet, despite his own opinions on the matter, he let people play what they liked because he felt having a fun game was more important than proving himself right.
>Gaygag
who cares what that corpse said? His advice has always been steaming dogshit.
no humans settings are based, look how it makes morons in this threads seethe.
Because they're the boring, bland, generic option that makes all the other options more appealing to players.
Because humanity will ALWAYS survive, forever thrive, and will adapt to anything. Unlike dwarves or elves who are too set in their ways, Halflings who just want sedentary lifestyle away from everyone, gnomes who just want to be left alone, and all the other races out there humans have ambition. Their short lives mean they want to learn all that can to pass on their knowledge to the next generation.
This is the same in science fiction settings like Star Wars, Star Trek, and the like. Every other race, or species will not be here when humanity is all that's left. We will always be the best. Deal with it.
For whatever reasons cripples identify with their disability, which is frankly weird in most magical universes where they can be magically healed easily.
Because there needs to be a balance between the mundane and the magical for the magical to BE magical. When everyone is some flavor of freakshit, freakshit stops being unique.
There's no in-universe justification for it. It's all just about representation, which they ruin by giving them a magic chair that can do everything legs can do. They're basically reducing disability to decoration, which should be insulting to people who struggle with it irl.
One on the left is made for bwc
>why even have humans in a FANTASY world tho?
I know, right? It's like people can't leave that one shred of reality behind.