>Civil war (self explanatory) >Dragons (self explanatory) >Dark Brotherhood renaissance where you could've decided to make it more like a Sithis religious fanatics or just money oriented professional assassins >Psijics related plotline they did frickall with except mystery bait with the psijiics serving as the shallow, mystical wisdom guys with no real substance >Hermaeus Mora plotline they also did frickall of substance with, Miraak having zero charisma/impact as a villain despite a solid introduction
>work with hagravens >summon and worship daedra >cut out their hearts to become undead witchcraft monsters >kill their own people if they don't join up (Eltrys's dad, despite being a native Reachman) >>We're going to paint the walls with Nord blood! >take the first opportunity they can to strike at a vulnerable Markarth when it's recovering from fighting the bloodiest war in history against the Dominion >kidnap and murder random people
Some of it can be explained as desperate measures in fighting for their home. That still doesn't justify it. The rest of it is proof that they're maniacs. Even a lot of their own kin think they're deranged, like basically all of the poor Reachmen smelter workers and the Reachmen with actual fricking jobs.
Even the bloodthirsty murder-bandit orc in prison says the Forsworn are worse than bandits.
>work with hagravens
why is that bad >le daedra BAD!!! >cut out their hearts to become undead witchcraft monsters
what's actually wrong with this >kill their own people if they don't join up
sometimes that's what you have to do >We're going to paint the walls with Nord blood!
historically justified >take the first opportunity they can to strike at a vulnerable Markarth when it's recovering from fighting the bloodiest war in history against the Dominion
historically justified >kidnap and murder random people
get off their land
>Even a lot of their own kin think they're deranged, like basically all of the poor Reachmen smelter workers and the Reachmen with actual fricking jobs
theres a quest you can do for the orc smelter overseer (i think) where he complains that his workers keep talking about running off to join the forsworn because of how poorly they are treated
most Reachmen are sympathetic to the forsworn
Several of his workers also mention how the Forsworn are lunatics and make things worse for all of them. Eltrys's dad was fricking murdered by the Forsworn, and he's a Reachman.
>help them fight their way out of prison >you now have a +1000 gold bounty in Markarth so that entire city is closed off to you >now compensation by being allied with the deer dudes and maybe able to access a city they have
What a fricking shit game
People like them for the same reasons they hate Caesars Legion. Its actually funny. >raiders who murder anyone who disagrees with them >uses spies and subterfuge >believes they have a right to an arbitrary territory or land >lead by a delusional “charismatic” maniac >has human bodies or body parts strung up in various places around their dwellings
But unlike the legion they don't have morality or philosophy, even though the legion is brutal, so is their world, the fornsworn on the other hand have been fricked up by bethesda shit lore decisions, they are le bads, you can't talk to their leaders and they would explain that his objective goes beyond his death and the pendulum he will swing is the best choice that world has.
God no, hagravens just talk shit on their ears now lmao
what are hagravens?
they are hags that turned into RAVENS!
their motivations? haha she's just crazy
Holy shit, gaming will never be art, at least not while companies like bethesda are around prostituting the word "game"
>the progeny of smelly dirty hairy Nord apes + moronic effete effeminate homosexual product of elf-rape Bretons, living in mud huts and bathing in shit and running around naked in the forest
How are they not the bad guys? Everything north of Bruma should be nuked off the map.
They're savages living in the woods practicing pagan death rituals. They attack innocents and soldiers alike with abandon. They disrupt the peace, law, and order in one of Skyrim's great cities. They're evil.
>forsworn claim to be natives of the Reach >despite being a military organization and not an ethnicity like the Reachmen, who aren’t all Forsworn >look up their origin >they are a hybrid people between Bretons and Nords >which means Bretons and Nords existed before them >Nords are more ancient than Reachmen and logically must have existed in the Reach befofe Reachmen for Reachmen to exist, who also existed before the Forsworn existed >also they are daedra-worshipping, hagraven-following rebel scum, who live in filth, piss and in the swamp
There is nothing redeemable about them.
You can visit the church of feminism, or become a cannibal.
I'm glad my first experience in Markarth was the hangover quest. Stepping out into the Markarth streets when you have no idea where you are is an experience
Anything happen in the church other than waking up there after partying?
You can visit the church of feminism, or become a cannibal.
I'm glad my first experience in Markarth was the hangover quest. Stepping out into the Markarth streets when you have no idea where you are is an experience
Anyone stupid enough to listen to hagravens is a badguy.
They attacked me during my travels
That is reason enough
that's just modern bethesda being incompetent and lazy and turning another reasonable faction into generic bandits
They don't pay taxes
they tried to kill me
You'll get it when you start taking their hearts and see what they are doing.
Skyrim is a game of wasted potential. So many good ideas with zero depth because Emil is exactly that: an ideas guy.
>Emil
He made a design document.
Apologize.
>So many good ideas
Name 5.
>Civil war (self explanatory)
>Dragons (self explanatory)
>Dark Brotherhood renaissance where you could've decided to make it more like a Sithis religious fanatics or just money oriented professional assassins
>Psijics related plotline they did frickall with except mystery bait with the psijiics serving as the shallow, mystical wisdom guys with no real substance
>Hermaeus Mora plotline they also did frickall of substance with, Miraak having zero charisma/impact as a villain despite a solid introduction
>azhidal having a fleshed out interesting backstory
>he's just a fire spell spamming dragon priest in a dungeon
>So many good ideas
Not a single one. All the good ideas were inherited from previous entries and none of them came from Emil.
Forsworn were already established in the lore before skyrim
They're ethnonationalist chuds.
>work with hagravens
>summon and worship daedra
>cut out their hearts to become undead witchcraft monsters
>kill their own people if they don't join up (Eltrys's dad, despite being a native Reachman)
>>We're going to paint the walls with Nord blood!
>take the first opportunity they can to strike at a vulnerable Markarth when it's recovering from fighting the bloodiest war in history against the Dominion
>kidnap and murder random people
Some of it can be explained as desperate measures in fighting for their home. That still doesn't justify it. The rest of it is proof that they're maniacs. Even a lot of their own kin think they're deranged, like basically all of the poor Reachmen smelter workers and the Reachmen with actual fricking jobs.
Even the bloodthirsty murder-bandit orc in prison says the Forsworn are worse than bandits.
>work with hagravens
why is that bad
>le daedra BAD!!!
>cut out their hearts to become undead witchcraft monsters
what's actually wrong with this
>kill their own people if they don't join up
sometimes that's what you have to do
>We're going to paint the walls with Nord blood!
historically justified
>take the first opportunity they can to strike at a vulnerable Markarth when it's recovering from fighting the bloodiest war in history against the Dominion
historically justified
>kidnap and murder random people
get off their land
Get conquered, Forsworn scum
That sounds exactly like the Stormcloaks except it's giants instead of hags and an ordinary human instead of Daedra
>exactly like the Stormcloaks except not at all
simperial moment
>Even a lot of their own kin think they're deranged, like basically all of the poor Reachmen smelter workers and the Reachmen with actual fricking jobs
theres a quest you can do for the orc smelter overseer (i think) where he complains that his workers keep talking about running off to join the forsworn because of how poorly they are treated
most Reachmen are sympathetic to the forsworn
Several of his workers also mention how the Forsworn are lunatics and make things worse for all of them. Eltrys's dad was fricking murdered by the Forsworn, and he's a Reachman.
Ashlanders without the charm
Because they're reskinned bandits instead of an actual faction of people you can interact with (outside of one quest)
They're trying to kill me so they're bad
>help them fight their way out of prison
>you now have a +1000 gold bounty in Markarth so that entire city is closed off to you
>now compensation by being allied with the deer dudes and maybe able to access a city they have
What a fricking shit game
>siding with madanach makes ONE forsworn camp non-hositle
bethesda moment
just use this mod:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/49017
Because you can't join them.
Human sacrifice is morally wrong
People like them for the same reasons they hate Caesars Legion. Its actually funny.
>raiders who murder anyone who disagrees with them
>uses spies and subterfuge
>believes they have a right to an arbitrary territory or land
>lead by a delusional “charismatic” maniac
>has human bodies or body parts strung up in various places around their dwellings
>tfw all out of pudding
But unlike the legion they don't have morality or philosophy, even though the legion is brutal, so is their world, the fornsworn on the other hand have been fricked up by bethesda shit lore decisions, they are le bads, you can't talk to their leaders and they would explain that his objective goes beyond his death and the pendulum he will swing is the best choice that world has.
God no, hagravens just talk shit on their ears now lmao
what are hagravens?
they are hags that turned into RAVENS!
their motivations? haha she's just crazy
Holy shit, gaming will never be art, at least not while companies like bethesda are around prostituting the word "game"
Just realized that modern day US is just Caesar legion
Wasn't there a chick that took a photo in a pile of dead people?
>the progeny of smelly dirty hairy Nord apes + moronic effete effeminate homosexual product of elf-rape Bretons, living in mud huts and bathing in shit and running around naked in the forest
How are they not the bad guys? Everything north of Bruma should be nuked off the map.
Take Bruma too. It might as well be called little Skyrim
>moronic effete effeminate homosexual product of elf-rape
sounds like imperials in the near future
who say they are?
They're savages living in the woods practicing pagan death rituals. They attack innocents and soldiers alike with abandon. They disrupt the peace, law, and order in one of Skyrim's great cities. They're evil.
virtually everyone in elder scrolls is pagan
an actual part of elder scrolls lore is that monotheism was advocated at an early point in history but people rejected it because it made no sense
Why are we talking about the Stormcloaks?
Because they're ~~*Nepos the Nose*~~'s faction.
>demonic worshipping and sacrifices
Checks out.
>forsworn claim to be natives of the Reach
>despite being a military organization and not an ethnicity like the Reachmen, who aren’t all Forsworn
>look up their origin
>they are a hybrid people between Bretons and Nords
>which means Bretons and Nords existed before them
>Nords are more ancient than Reachmen and logically must have existed in the Reach befofe Reachmen for Reachmen to exist, who also existed before the Forsworn existed
>also they are daedra-worshipping, hagraven-following rebel scum, who live in filth, piss and in the swamp
There is nothing redeemable about them.
>look up their origin
>they are a hybrid people between Bretons and Nords
you didn't look up their origin
you are completely moronic and you type like an insane person
Why did they make them so strong?
>only group in TES with irish/gaelic names
>most of them are terrorists
what did Todd mean by this?
They are bretons.
...
What's in Markarth anyway?
There's a haunted house, a shitty mystery, and a prison. Anything else to do there? Dwemor ruins maybe?
bro there's a literal sex temple moron
Anything happen in the church other than waking up there after partying?
Once you get over 50 speech as a female you can get the charm ability for better prices and cheaper mercs of the opposite sex
There's a creepy quest where you have to track down a little girl and bring her there so she became the next priest of sex. I am not joking
the sybil doesn't do any sex, pretty sure only other priestesses are even allowed to see her
Wrong
Skyrim has canon child sex
Best player house imho.
You can visit the church of feminism, or become a cannibal.
I'm glad my first experience in Markarth was the hangover quest. Stepping out into the Markarth streets when you have no idea where you are is an experience
One of the three hottest npcs
Because they don't pay taxes
They are Markarth Hamas