Conceptually they're great
Actually playing them, mostly tedious, especially the last dungeon, frick that place, jesus christ.
I did like the desert underground in the beginning, though
it's a jrpg that largely takes itself seriously, has very few corny japanese humor moments, and has almost no sexualized fanservice, while still focusing on the story and characters.
This seems like a winning strategy to me, but so few jrpg go this route for some reason.
Xenoblade 2 turned everything around and it's like the most popular one I figure, so you see why. Not that it's a good thing. All I dream of is a game that is basically Xenogears but with good gameplay
"Sexualized fanservice"
You are just a homosexual, at least go for overall fanservice but clearly your problem is with girls showing a bit of sex appeal
I called out sexualized fanservice specifically, because the game is full of robot and martial arts fanservice, however neither of those significantly detract from the seriousness and tone of the game. that's why I didn't say overall fanservice.
this game is full of corny shit, has bad combat, is slow, has bad dungeons (especially when platforming is involved), etc. the story is a bunch of childish moronation on top of vague hints of something substantial. there are probably people on this board who like billy lol.
the one redeeming quality of xenogears is the ost, which, except for the 2 god-awful vocal tracks, is excellent.
you legitimately got filtered. the plot resolves all of the issues that happened during the game and makes perfect sense, and while the script does include a lot of religious and scientific terminology, it's mostly used correctly.
tl;dr: you were just too dumb to understand any of it.
A game that blow up their budget but they still decided to give up and everything else to convey as much of the story even going as far as doing a VN segment, they wanted to tell a story and thats about it,hardly seemed they took in mind what people wanted or public for that matter
>Japanese game >nude male and female >consenting age
Where is his 2/3rd body size dick?
Why isn't she covered by 4 gallons of cum?
Why isn't her hole gushing out 10 gallons more?
This can thus NOT be considered a "deep" JRPG.
just finished Disk 1
you can really tell there were rushing shit waaay before Disk 2 >hey remember when Elly made contact with the Shevat's Omnigear?
i do not, stop talking about it like it happened
Yeah, and also how insane your levels are at by the end of Disc 1 (more than the average jrpg) and most deathblows are learned by that point too. It really felt like they were going with Sakaguchi's idea of splitting it up into two games and balancing it around ending in Solaris before Takahashi went nvm and crammed as much as he could into Disc 2. The last part of Disc 1 felt like it was still in beta testing.
Must be a kino clay pigeon then. Yes I wish it was finished but it was this or literally nothing at all since Xenogears 2 would have been denied because of Spirits Within
>It was released in 1998, right when Square was going to be working and investing in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, which would come out in 2001. Since the company was making that decision, Xenogears 2 wasn’t going to be a possibility.
Xenosaga was a defacto prequel based on perfect works but it has a lot of lore differences
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'Saga was basically in 3 episodes what was to be Ep. I of Project Noah. I.e., The Company = Vector, The Galactic Federation, etc. It should have stuck with the civil war aspect, but instead, went with "space ghosts". XCX then picked up on a cooler narrative of a real honest set of aliens deciding to frick humanity and losing Earth.
You're smoking crack, PCP, and wiener. This game is dogshit. It has THE worst combat system in any jrpg. It's shallower than Dragon Quest, and every action takes 10x as long. The overrated story happens 99% offscreen, in lore. Holy frick you have bad taste.
Correction: it has the worst non-RPGMaker JRPG combat. Omori and Demons Roots somehow managed to be even worse. SEQUEL Blight is around the same level of shit as Xenogears.
I literally laughed out loud. Okay, that was fun, next thread.
Come on, man. I love the game but the story is great, graphics are great, music is good, the rest is not any better than middling.
What about dungeon design
>when you realize it's the crashed fuselage of the spaceship in the intro
unironically and legitimately 10/10 dungeon design.
Technically, gunwale. Mahannon is the fuselage
Conceptually they're great
Actually playing them, mostly tedious, especially the last dungeon, frick that place, jesus christ.
I did like the desert underground in the beginning, though
The dungeons are fine. The problem is that encounters can load mid-jump and frick your angles.
>spend time preparing for alpha weltall
>win after a a few tries
>get a slayer robe (kek) for your efforts
>still lose in the cutscene
At least you get something to show for it, most games don't even do that much.
best armor for males right?
And by the time you get it there are no more challenges for on-foot section of the game, you'll be using your gears.
it's a jrpg that largely takes itself seriously, has very few corny japanese humor moments, and has almost no sexualized fanservice, while still focusing on the story and characters.
This seems like a winning strategy to me, but so few jrpg go this route for some reason.
Xenoblade 2 turned everything around and it's like the most popular one I figure, so you see why. Not that it's a good thing. All I dream of is a game that is basically Xenogears but with good gameplay
For me the order is XG > Saga 3 > Blade X
"Sexualized fanservice"
You are just a homosexual, at least go for overall fanservice but clearly your problem is with girls showing a bit of sex appeal
I called out sexualized fanservice specifically, because the game is full of robot and martial arts fanservice, however neither of those significantly detract from the seriousness and tone of the game. that's why I didn't say overall fanservice.
It is a winning strategy, but people fear greatness. Some day the HBO of game devs will come out and produce high quality stuff across the board.
this game is full of corny shit, has bad combat, is slow, has bad dungeons (especially when platforming is involved), etc. the story is a bunch of childish moronation on top of vague hints of something substantial. there are probably people on this board who like billy lol.
the one redeeming quality of xenogears is the ost, which, except for the 2 god-awful vocal tracks, is excellent.
Too bad it’s full of pseudo intellectual writing and a convoluted plot that ultimately goes nowhere
you legitimately got filtered. the plot resolves all of the issues that happened during the game and makes perfect sense, and while the script does include a lot of religious and scientific terminology, it's mostly used correctly.
tl;dr: you were just too dumb to understand any of it.
Xeno a shit, you a shit eater.
It might not have much fanservice by TODAY'S standards, but for it's time it was at the very least middle of the pack.
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>trying this hard to be like the bitter incel who died of the coof
He spoke a truth. Just like this guy who died giving us best brown girl.
Xenogears a shit.
A game that blow up their budget but they still decided to give up and everything else to convey as much of the story even going as far as doing a VN segment, they wanted to tell a story and thats about it,hardly seemed they took in mind what people wanted or public for that matter
Reminder: Disc 2 apologists get the wall.
what's there to apologize for? Disk 2 is the best part of the game. 100% plot development and boss fights, no filler.
In an alternate universe FF7 was Xenogears, and the time janitors would be haunting Fei.
Time Janitor here, how should I go about haunting Fei?
Whisper to him "a shit".
>Japanese game
>nude male and female
>consenting age
Where is his 2/3rd body size dick?
Why isn't she covered by 4 gallons of cum?
Why isn't her hole gushing out 10 gallons more?
This can thus NOT be considered a "deep" JRPG.
xenogears as a good interesting story but its complete dogshit as a game
My dude its not even the best jrpg of its year
just finished Disk 1
you can really tell there were rushing shit waaay before Disk 2
>hey remember when Elly made contact with the Shevat's Omnigear?
i do not, stop talking about it like it happened
wait until you get to the mass driver, or, what would have been the prelude for Ep. III.
It was that or half a game because of spirits within and Sakaguchi's careless decisions
That and VIII.
Yeah, and also how insane your levels are at by the end of Disc 1 (more than the average jrpg) and most deathblows are learned by that point too. It really felt like they were going with Sakaguchi's idea of splitting it up into two games and balancing it around ending in Solaris before Takahashi went nvm and crammed as much as he could into Disc 2. The last part of Disc 1 felt like it was still in beta testing.
Because it was to a degree
Trails of cold steel >>>>> xenogears
Cringe af
okay i'm done with Disk 2
it drops the balls hard and i still like Wild Arms 1 more
S'truth
Disk 2 is pure kino
as a clay pigeon.
Must be a kino clay pigeon then. Yes I wish it was finished but it was this or literally nothing at all since Xenogears 2 would have been denied because of Spirits Within
No according to Monoliths original purpose.
https://www.siliconera.com/monolith-soft-was-founded-to-try-and-make-xenogears-2-happen/
>It was released in 1998, right when Square was going to be working and investing in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, which would come out in 2001. Since the company was making that decision, Xenogears 2 wasn’t going to be a possibility.
Xenosaga was a defacto prequel based on perfect works but it has a lot of lore differences
'Saga was basically in 3 episodes what was to be Ep. I of Project Noah. I.e., The Company = Vector, The Galactic Federation, etc. It should have stuck with the civil war aspect, but instead, went with "space ghosts". XCX then picked up on a cooler narrative of a real honest set of aliens deciding to frick humanity and losing Earth.
>Xenogears: The choice of ironic weebs and westoids since 2012 (when they decided to become JRPG fans)
Im still mad its not even finished. Fricking budget cuts.
I need to play xenogears on my vita sometime soon
You're smoking crack, PCP, and wiener. This game is dogshit. It has THE worst combat system in any jrpg. It's shallower than Dragon Quest, and every action takes 10x as long. The overrated story happens 99% offscreen, in lore. Holy frick you have bad taste.
Correction: it has the worst non-RPGMaker JRPG combat. Omori and Demons Roots somehow managed to be even worse. SEQUEL Blight is around the same level of shit as Xenogears.
This came out like a year and half later tho
yeah but SO2 isn't a good game. the combat is enjoyable, but everything else is shit, as is par for the series.