Why have we progressed backwards?

>2000s hack'n'slash RPG
>'create a character'
>pick from a dozen or so preset face meshes
>make minor adjustments to color scheme and haircut

>2010s hack'n'slash RPG
>'create a character'
>ultra-granular FaceGen(tm) face sculpting system
>sliders for eye protrusion, chin sharpness, nose pimples and asscrack depth that go 2x as far in either direction as you think they'd ever need to
>freedom to make your own face, the president's face, an imaginary girlfriend's face, and polygon-trash freak faces for a laugh
>so robust that the devs used it to make every NPC

>2020s hack'n'slash RPG
>'create a character'
>pick from a dozen or so preset face meshes
>make minor adjustments to color scheme and haircut

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it probably didn't make them any more money.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why have we progressed backwards?
    This question is anti-Semitic, anon.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not progressing backwards, it prioritizing face rigs over shallow customization.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >prioritizing face rigs
      Face animation still looks like ass in almost every video game, though. Dragon's Dogma 2 faces barely move and (outside of scripted, "game takes control of the camera" cutscenes) never emote beyond 'smiling' and 'not smiling'

      More customization options is a fair trade-off for my character's teeth clipping through their lips sometimes. That's *my fault*, I'm not gonna blame the game for something I chose to do

      (This is also my argument that every game ought to have an "uncap the sliders? yes/no" option)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >outside of scripted, "game takes control of the camera" cutscenes
        Sounds like they are animated when it matters, the only time you'll actually see your characters facial features anyways instead of your character creation monstrosity for reddit pictures. But capcom is shit and has always been shit, so I don't know why you are using them as an example.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >your character creation monstrosity for reddit pictures
          I show them to my friends and loved ones for fun
          Also there's a roleplay appeal to knowing how your character looks, even if no one else in real life does, and no one else in-game cares. it informs how I interpret my character's personality, which informs the build I choose, etc. i'm an autist and I get attached to my player avatars very easily
          >But capcom is shit and has always been shit, so I don't know why you are using them as an example.
          I couldn't think of any examples of "2020s RPG with character creation menu" besides DragDog2, BG3, and Elden Ring 🙁
          (and I specified "hack'n'slash" because, if I'd included BG3, someone would have um-actually'ed me because CRPG character creators are shit by tradition)
          I compromised my integrity to write what I thought was a more engaging post and you'll forgive me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I compromised my integrity to write what I thought was a more engaging post and you'll forgive me
            God forgives, and I forgive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shallow customization

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think its enough, In fact, I think its too much, game should return to wizardry-likes "choose a Portrait" method.
    Its a really gay to spend so much time on Char creation

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you miss the part in the DD2 character creator where after picking a face it gives you the option for detailed customization?
    ... Did you not edit your characters body at all?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >progressed backwards

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's pointless. Just include 3-4 default faces and that is enough, or better yet just have 1 face/character and don't bother with moronic unnecessary shit like face creation.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all these DDtards seething that they can't even get a character creator that's as good as what bethesda shat out a decade ago
    pic related, it's the massive cope that will ensue

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason modern consoles often render at lower internal resolution and framerate than a PS2: it's all about spending as little as possible without upsetting the vast majority of customers.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An RPG without sliders for the character creation is not an RPG.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Competency crisis.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this post implying that the middle greentext is the good one? I genuinely can't tell. To me having excessive sliders for stupid shit you would never notice or care about unless it were specifically pointed out to you is the definition of dogshit character creator. I'd rather pick from a selection of completely unmodifiable presets than feel obligated to spend 3 hours of my life going through a bunch of superfluous sliders for dumb minutiae.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a way to admit to face blindness

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