Why is duckstation better than epsxe ?

I used epsxe since late 2000s but im a simple guy and never really bothered with any technical aspects. i always just googled the settings, put them on and enjoyed my games. Hell i didnt even know about save states and framerate off thingies till about 2018. I still dont know much but i keep coming across info that duckstation is better than epsxe. Why? Are there any interesting features, something like rewind, maybe?

Thanks

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just use whatever emulator you like, man.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Higher accuracy. From this post it doesnt seem like that would matter to you though.

      Accuracy of what?
      And i would like to know about functions that it has that epsxe doesnt , in terms of messing around with the game itself

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What features?

        Duck station has fancy new enhancements including:

        >rollback netcode
        >PGXP and wobble reduction
        >Overclocking
        >mouse injector compatibilty (separate program)

        This means you can take Gran Turismo 1-2, use 60fps cheat codes, overclock the CPU, and run it at 60fps. The game's envine natively has a 60fps mode, so there's no problems internally. It's case by case if 60fps works in games as many game engines of that era tie some feature of physics to the game's framerate.

        Netplay is utterly bonkers, as we can now have proper tournaments and casual play over the net. This is something the Playstation (as well as SNES and MD) have badly needed for ages. Tekken 3, Street Fighter EX2, and others, are getting new life again.

        There's also a separate mouse injector program - this is targetting duckstation and retroarch rather than ePSXe. It's excellent for first person games like King's Field or Echo night.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How do the lobbies and such work for multiplayer gaming on ps1 emulator?
          Epsxe has multiplayer too as far as i remember
          And i just watched a bunch of videos comparing many games epsxe vs duckstation...and i barely see any difference. maybe some minor brightness difference in some games,and it looks duckstation has inferior audio quality

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The only emulator that ever crashed for me is PS2 Never had any issues with epsxe other than accidentally launching wrong file and having no music

            good for you? use whatever works for you, nobody cares

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You cared enough to reply! 😀
              I want to know what funny functions duckstation has over epsxe. I only know about save states, making the game go ultra fast with frame limiter off & taking screenshots. Stuff like this.
              And you don't need to act snarky

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                if you want to compare functions, you can download duckstation yourself, it's free

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Right now it's mostly organized via forums and dischord. Two people hook up and plop in their IPs. Now if Fightcade adds Duckstation support, then that whole situation changes and we can get proper "lobbies" and such.

            %3D

            SNES and MD are officially supported by Fightcade but it's poorly implimented and not recommended.

            >Epsxe has multiplayer too as far as i remember

            Crude, now mostly abandoned, and the Duckstation variant has proper rollback which is ideal for fighting games. Retroarch also had rollback netplay, but it was obtuse to use.

            >And i just watched a bunch of videos comparing many games epsxe vs duckstation...and i barely see any difference. maybe some minor brightness difference in some games,and it looks duckstation has inferior audio quality

            I can't remember if they implimented PGXP at all, but that's a big deal breaker. It reduces wobble and texture warping significantly (not 100%, but pretty damn good).

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It reduces wobble and texture warping significantly (
              Does anyone except zoomers want that though?
              Texture warping is essential ps1 experience ..

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                People were complaining about polywobble at least as far back as the late 90s. Stop using words you don't understand.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In the mind of the TRVE RETRO GAYMER who never played any of these games when they were new, only zoomers don't like ugly visual shit and single digit framerate games.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dont be so buttblasted zoomie

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You were never around when these games were new. You're a poser. People talked about texture warping and how bad shitty early 3d graphics were all of the time.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mostly never noticed it aside from the breathing in Resident Evil 2. Claire, Leon, Sherry, Ada, or any other npcs will stand and breathe in a kind of exaggerated manner, but it's enough to have constant warping.

                I never liked it, and it is only more glaring and obvious in HD. PGXP reduces all this shit and makes them look like N64 games with way better textures, or even mid 90's PC games.

                PGXP isn't something novel, in fact Duckstation makes very little new things it just packages open source developments into one program. But it's what's so great about open source, is that people can build upon each other's work.

                Also, the mouse injector is a game changer for any first person game. It doesn't support ePSXe. I know, I know, mouse injectors are jank hackware by their nature, but it's unlikely we're getting native PC ports of these games any time soon.

                RE Survivor is totally playable now.

                %3D

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Looks cooler and more surreal with off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mouse injector demonstrations:

                King's Field III:

                Duke Nukem: Time to Kill

                Medal of Honor: Underground:

                %3D

                Shadow Tower:

                Looks cooler and more surreal with off

                Well that's your opinion. It's not intentional and it's just limitations of the PS hardware. I am nostalgic for the games, not hardware limitations. And funny enough, I'm certain that blowing up the resolution increases these errors and makes them bigger, so it's more nostalgia for the emulated product than the game itself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So the mouse injection just replaces some controls with mouse input? Or can it actually give you a mouse in some of the point-and-click games like Blazing Dragons?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's per-game, and mouse injectors by their nature are dirty hacks. It's the trade-off for having mouse support. Development is focused more on first person, and shooting games, rather than point and click and Blazing Dragons isn't on their officially supported list. But it could in the future!

                https://github.com/garungorp/MouseInjectorDolphinDuck

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Aww, that's a bit of a shame.

                Pretty sure Blazing Dragons runs on SCUMM. The engine is just called "Dragons" internally and was only used for that one game, but considering that it's possible to rip the files from the PS1 disk to play in ScummVM with a mouse while enabling standard features in the SCUMM engine that are not normally in the game, I am pretty sure "Dragons" is just a modified SCUMM.

                Would be nice to play it on it's original hardware though without having to use a clunky controller.

                How does someone make a point-and-click game... make it exclusive to consoles, and then not add mouse support when that game is based on a mouse-driven engine and both the consoles it released for already had a mouse accessory that came out years before the game did?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Does anyone except zoomers want that though
                I'm 36 years old.
                If I want textures and polygons wobbling I'll plug the PS1 I've had since 1998 into my CRT TV. When I'm emulating I want the graphical enhancements.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Does anyone except zoomers want that though?
                yes, everybody, don't try to pretend you are over 18

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, I want that "playing a 25 year old PC game at 5000 fps, 8x view distance, and polygon edges so sharp your eyes are afraid of them" experience

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Got excited reading about Netplay
          >Remembered none of my friends care about PS1
          Frick I just want to 201% Crash Bash, without having a kid and forcing them to play it with me.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look at this clown trying to act cool over a fricking emulator.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Higher accuracy. From this post it doesnt seem like that would matter to you though.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Higher accuracy, it Just Works without having to frick with dozens of plugin settings, more features, etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What features?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ePSXe hasn't been officially updated in almost a decade now, it's going to have compatibility issues especially moving forward. It's like insisting on using Windows Vista still because you don't care about the features in modern Windows, it's not just about the features.

    On top of that Duckstation is honestly easier to setup than epsxe if you are worried about learning how to setup and use an entirely new emulator.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It works just fine dont know why you are shilling. I didnt even need to configure any settings and it works wqithout problem on the Windows 10

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Anything I don't like is "shilling"

        Does nothing but crash on my Win10 systems before I can even configure it, regardless, this is like insisting on using Zsnes still.

        I'm like OP where I stop paying attention to software for 10 years and then think I still have the latest and greatest.
        I just updated Chocolatey from 0.31 to 2.22
        Last month it was Retroarch from 2.3 to 16.0

        Emulation Wiki while not great, is not a bad place to get a general idea of what are the current recommended emulators for a system and what they do/don't support if you have been out of the loop for a while.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >epsxe devs make something and close source it
    >it stagnates with periodic updates and it focuses on the paid mobile version
    >over the next 15 years devs from all over the world decap, reverse engineer, and analyze the playstation hardware and architecture, and make this information open and available
    >others create new enhancements all over the place
    >New dev comes along and takes all this information and creates a new emulator from the ground up

    That's it. It's just open source, and continually updated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >New dev comes along and takes all this information and creates a new emulator from the ground up
      Are you talking about Stenzek? Because he just slapped his gamecube frontend on top of mednafen and pcsx code.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    psx emulation is still a bit of a dicey prospect in the year of our lord, an emulator from 2010 you're talking actual quantifiable problems playing games.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No plugins.
    It doesn't crash if you try to change settings at an arbitrarily inopportune time.
    64-bit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why would u ever change the settings ? Like genuinely what for ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you ever want the program to crash if you tried?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The only emulator that ever crashed for me is PS2 Never had any issues with epsxe other than accidentally launching wrong file and having no music

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What a fricking calcified brain ass question. God I need to find a less normcore board, frick man... jesus. Are you like 21? Are you a woman? Who the frick doesn't want to tinker with shit? If you can't use your imagination a little bit on this you are beyond help.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          "Shit tinkerer", do you have the same enthusiasm for changing brightness,saturation, etc. settings on your computer monitor? Idiotic scum. Same type of shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just admit that this whole thread is in bad faith you fricking homosexual.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm like OP where I stop paying attention to software for 10 years and then think I still have the latest and greatest.
    I just updated Chocolatey from 0.31 to 2.22
    Last month it was Retroarch from 2.3 to 16.0

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Buy an ad, homosexual.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I use epsxe because I'm nostalgic for 2000s 90s nostalgia

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you posted this on a Windows 98 or XP system.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Posted from my dreamcast

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know you're just shittin' but
        >win98
        I'd like to see someone try. I don't think there's a browser, even the hacky k-meleon based ones, that can get past the 2022 captchas.
        >winxp
        Hell, I think even this is just about walled out now. MAYBE Palemoon or MyPal does? Think MyPal bombed it last I tried but I bet there's something that can post here now from XP.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          WinXP can't communicate with any modern security that just about everything uses to connect online these days anymore. I know there are some fan SPs that give them new features and abilities these days, although I don't think it lets them connect online. Maybe XP. I recall installing a huge fan-made SP for Windows 98 on PCem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > WinXP can't communicate with any modern security that just about everything uses to connect online these days anymore
            Browsers don't really use the OS security features, they do everything themselves.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ePSXe sucked incredibly since forever and never got good performance with it, so I discarded PS1 emulation for years until I started using Mednafen and later Duckstation, which are more stable and allows you to use enhanced graphics (I still keep it closer to vanilla anyway).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      epsxe was closed source jank that we used because we didn't have any other options. Thank GOD we're past that and have tons of options now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Schizo
      Look up any epsxe vs duckstation vid comparison
      There is no performance difference

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Duck runs much smoother for me. But I think that, even if there wasn't any other differences, the menus in DuckStation feel so much more comfortable then the ones in epsxe that they'd be reason enough to switch.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because I can easily hack into it and adapt it to my needs.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the interface isn't garbage for once

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    epsxe is the worst emulator ever created so of course duckstation is better.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess, you need more?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/PS1_Tests
    And read the note

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure only a snobbish giganerd would understand anything on that page

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Probably only someone who implements a PlayStation emulator can understand it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why is Duckstation not in the overall results, just the detailed results?

      Why are the emulators in a different order in the different tests?

      Why is this put together in such a mess?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ePSXe is frozen in time to like 2008 or some shit. Of course a modern updated program is going to be better.

      That test is with a specific hyper accurate epsxe plugin that NO ONE uses.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The ePSXe project, a closed-source emulator, deliberately targeted these tests for 2.0.0 and, at the time of release, a developer edited this page in their favor
      lmao

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >epsxe
    Why does anybody have nostalgia for this piece of shit. Zsnes may not be accurate but it has a nice interface and you just load the games and play them.
    This garbage was one of the first to deviate from the "just load the rom" design and made you download plug-ins for every function of the emulator. It's the opposite of comfy, just brings back bad memories of when this trash was the best option.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't have content sound skipping

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ePSXe is completely useless in hardware mode with all the enhancements being wack and broken 2002tech; still decent-enough in software though. There are few games you probably don't care about that give ePSXe a hard time but run fine in Duckstation. Duckstation has less latency and better frame pacing because it's not this WinXP-ass relic running on equally old APIs. Duckstation doesn't lock you out half the settings mid-session. It did its job for awhile, but it's time to old yeller it if you want the best.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >googled the settings
    Huh? I just fiddled with them myself until everything worked the way I wanted them to.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    zsnes and epsxe are just old and busted. duckstation is the new hotness.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Epsxe works for me, Duckstation won’t start, so it’s shit. If I had a modern graphics card, why would I be playing crusty PSX games?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ePSXe is good still.
    Ignore the obsessed trannies & shills.
    I've used it for 4 hours of gameplay today & had no issues whatsoever.
    These zoomers are literally upset that ePSXe doesn't have fancy menus and stuff.
    Guess they never mounted an ISO in their life. Freaking consolegays.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isnt PCSXReArmed a better middleground?

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I adore ePSXe, it was my 1st PS1 emulation and I finished so much good stuff on it... but nowadays DuckStation just does it better, there are lots of things that are more subjective, like the UI, which I feel DuckStation wins comfortably, but I've also experienced less glitched that I used to see all of the time on ePSXe, it just emulates better and I feel like I'm playing my old PS1 a lot more here.

    It's all a matter of personal taste, but at least by my experience, DuckStation is more polished, it has less bugs and overall gives a more accurate emulation than ePSXe, both are great though.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone breaks on ePSXe.

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