nah, it does look very good.
it's not the moronic way-too-detailed sprites that wouldn't be displayed correctly on the DS like you see usually in this type of bait thread
it's literally a full body version of the HGSS backsprite
which is what GF should have done for Gen 5.
Know why they didn't do that though. Doing backsprites from scratch is hell.
backsprites are usually just done by flipping the frontsprite, changing colors and getting rid of details you shouldn't be able to see
I believe it was done to accommodate triple battle and just make animations easier to do. I don't think it looks particularly bad. I find them much more expressive than most gen 3 or 4 backstreets anyway
Yeah, blown up its far more noticeable but when you're playing on actual hardware as a kid you barely notice. In fact I'd say the rixels aren't even that bad having just replayed it on my N3ds a few weeks ago
It's supposed to invoke a feeling of looking like Gen 1, where the closer Pokemon's sprite's pixels were groups of 4. At the time it was a fun piece of nostalgia. >all new Pokedex of 150+ Pokemon you've never seen before >the close sprite is blocky
couple with the obvious parallels between gen 1 and gen 5 pokemon lines and the entire game was meant to feel new, but also deeply familiar. We obviously know from hindsight that by being okay with Gen 1 pandering they'd ratchet it up continuously, but at the time at least the games felt and played great. Gen 5 is arguably my favorite gen overall and the sprite work definitely contributes to it.
>Thinks Game Freak is going to give their games a real budget
And that's why they're running the largest grossing multimedia franchise in history and you're not. Don't waste money for no fricking reason, Mewtwo's a transfer only mon, who gives a shit if its sprite's bad.
>Thinks Game Freak is going to give their games a real budget
And that's why they're running the largest grossing multimedia franchise in history and you're not. Don't waste money for no fricking reason, Mewtwo's a transfer only mon, who gives a shit if its sprite's bad.
And now I remember why I stopped coming to /veepee/. The average clickshit youtuber knows more about game developing than you.
Literally does not make a difference due to the tiny ass screen on the DS. On something like the Switch it'd be far more noticeable and worthwhile going the extra mile for.
>they're good games
Why?
The animations and sprites aren't good.
The "gimmick (rotation battles) isn't good.
The story is convoluted and so beyond salvaging that apologists literally have to use the "2deep4u" argument.
Unova is probably the most linear region, outside of alola.
Almost no post-game
Some of the worst legendaries and mythics
Failed at being a soft reboot of the franchise
The least popular generation
Worst starters
The animation and sprites are fine, /vp/ is the only place on the internet where this seems to be a major talking point (which really shows who the actual contrarians are.)
Rotation battles are genuinely the best gimmick Pokemon has ever introduced.
The story isn't convoluted at all and it's not even particularly deep, you morons are just legitimate neanderthals.
The region being linear is probably the only somewhat valid criticism, but linear doesn't even necesarily equal bad.
It has plenty of post-game, especially in BW2, the frick are you talking about?
Subjective opinion
moronic statement >muh sales=quality
Subjective opinion
>The animations and sprites aren't good.
It's a ds game >The "gimmick (rotation battles) isn't good.
Subjective >The story is convoluted and so beyond salvaging that apologists literally have to use the "2deep4u" argument.
Better than other Pokemon main game stories >Unova is probably the most linear region, outside of alola.
Bw2 fix this >Almost no post-game
Most moronic I ever heard
Bw2 have the most best content than any other pokemon main game example Pwt, treehollow,join avenue, pokestudios,funfest,battle subway >Some of the worst legendaries and mythics
Subjective >Failed at being a soft reboot of the franchise
Gen 5 games is the most downloaded Pokemon game in internet >The least popular generation
I don't think so >Worst starters
Subjective
Zoomie here. My first Pokemon game was HGSS and I got BW shortly after and played them both simultaneously. They're both good games for different reasons, but I probably prefer BW for its harder difficulty even though HGSS is the much cozier experience.
gen 5 needed them to do animations for every single pokemon with front and back sprites so instead of making one complex but lifeless still image they made several hundred simplistic but animated sprites. Also right looks like shit so you know
right would look terrible in Gen 5's battles because of the dynamic zooming/panning/scaling that's constantly going on. It would look like a shimmering mess. There's a reason they kept the chunky look they did.
>they made it uglier so that it's not as blatant when otherwise good sprites get ugly because of dynamic zooming/panning/scaling
woah... so this is the power of mental gymnastics
>>Then why are the back sprites blown up to be half the resolution that the DS is capable of?
Because gamefreak are incompetent, can't optimize and triple/double battles have slowdown because of it
right would look terrible in Gen 5's battles because of the dynamic zooming/panning/scaling that's constantly going on. It would look like a shimmering mess. There's a reason they kept the chunky look they did.
It all comes down to the exact same excuse they make every time. The sheer number of Pokemon. They used it to explain the sprite work in gen 5, and then the reused models and animations in gen 6, 7, and 8. But in gen 5, it may have at least made some sense and been true, I guess. The games included every Pokemon and idle movement was new to the games. So they cut corners and used old movements or sprites, and didn't put forth the effort to create new sprites for the majority of the Pokemon. This meant they were going to stick to a specific ratio and not change it for the game. That's what happened in gen 5, and it was almost excusable. Until every gen after that has gotten lazier and lazier and more and more recycled.
At the end of the day all of GF's problems come down to laziness and an inability or an unwillingness to do better. They've been using the same excuses for decades and as time goes on they are less and less applicable.
>At the end of the day all of GF's problems come down to laziness and an inability or an unwillingness to do better.
truer words have never been said. >Pokemon having bad movesets
laziness to do an actual list of moves each Pokemon can learn instead of spreading it throughout different means like level up, tm, egg move, etc >shit level design
sheer laziness >small region
laziness + unwillingness >not having actually good textures for the environnment
inability since they don't have people that do good ones in their team + unwillingness to have more people in this very team >dexcut
unwillingness to make sure every Pokemon work in the games >shit gimmicks
laziness to put actual content that would draw people towards the game and instead add battle-gimmick marketing stunts
What's especially weird is that they use that argument now, but it's openly untrue. The argument for Dexit in gen 8 was the sheer number of Pokemon, but the models and the animations were already made. So what the frick were they complaining about? Why did they do it? Fricking baffling. I'm sick of them hiding behind that argument.
The texture work is probably more effort than it looks. Not to the point of it being undoable, but would the need of a larger team to implement it on the schedule they have. And then keep increasing the number every generation after, and it makes sense why they would want to nip the expectation of this ASAP.
small indie company
please understand
The rent?
That redone one looks like shit.
hi joe
whos joe? joe mama?
that’s literally its gen 4 back sprite
nah, it does look very good.
it's not the moronic way-too-detailed sprites that wouldn't be displayed correctly on the DS like you see usually in this type of bait thread
it's literally a full body version of the HGSS backsprite
which is what GF should have done for Gen 5.
Know why they didn't do that though. Doing backsprites from scratch is hell.
backsprites are usually just done by flipping the frontsprite, changing colors and getting rid of details you shouldn't be able to see
I prefer the full back sprite of bw2 than half back sprite of hgss Because half back sprite is so fricking boring and doesn't make any sense
I do too, but a full body version of HGSS's backsprite is superior to both
shit like Golem's backsprites just have no quality check though lol
I believe it was done to accommodate triple battle and just make animations easier to do. I don't think it looks particularly bad. I find them much more expressive than most gen 3 or 4 backstreets anyway
Yeah, this. It's the movements that look like dog shit.
Yeah, blown up its far more noticeable but when you're playing on actual hardware as a kid you barely notice. In fact I'd say the rixels aren't even that bad having just replayed it on my N3ds a few weeks ago
It's supposed to invoke a feeling of looking like Gen 1, where the closer Pokemon's sprite's pixels were groups of 4. At the time it was a fun piece of nostalgia.
>all new Pokedex of 150+ Pokemon you've never seen before
>the close sprite is blocky
couple with the obvious parallels between gen 1 and gen 5 pokemon lines and the entire game was meant to feel new, but also deeply familiar. We obviously know from hindsight that by being okay with Gen 1 pandering they'd ratchet it up continuously, but at the time at least the games felt and played great. Gen 5 is arguably my favorite gen overall and the sprite work definitely contributes to it.
>it’s supposed to look like an outdated piece of shit!
lmao
Yes
So can you show the right animated?
give me millions of dollars like game freak and I will.
>Thinks Game Freak is going to give their games a real budget
And that's why they're running the largest grossing multimedia franchise in history and you're not. Don't waste money for no fricking reason, Mewtwo's a transfer only mon, who gives a shit if its sprite's bad.
And now I remember why I stopped coming to /veepee/. The average clickshit youtuber knows more about game developing than you.
Right one while higher res and arguably better, lacks consistency and detail. Why not make it good instead of slightly less shit?
Because Unova is too busy keeping their KANTOian oppressors out to focus on looking pretty for (you)
Why is it not animated?
The pixelated back sprites are a homage to gen 1
Literally does not make a difference due to the tiny ass screen on the DS. On something like the Switch it'd be far more noticeable and worthwhile going the extra mile for.
Because BW/B2W2 are not good games. and the only people who like them are contrarians or zoomies whos first introduction to the franchise is unova.
they're good games. they're just based on a cursed land with rampant demonic possession, the United States and New York. so it was destined to fail.
Why is america so disgusting?
>they're good games
Why?
The animations and sprites aren't good.
The "gimmick (rotation battles) isn't good.
The story is convoluted and so beyond salvaging that apologists literally have to use the "2deep4u" argument.
Unova is probably the most linear region, outside of alola.
Almost no post-game
Some of the worst legendaries and mythics
Failed at being a soft reboot of the franchise
The least popular generation
Worst starters
What about these games are good?
The animation and sprites are fine, /vp/ is the only place on the internet where this seems to be a major talking point (which really shows who the actual contrarians are.)
Rotation battles are genuinely the best gimmick Pokemon has ever introduced.
The story isn't convoluted at all and it's not even particularly deep, you morons are just legitimate neanderthals.
The region being linear is probably the only somewhat valid criticism, but linear doesn't even necesarily equal bad.
It has plenty of post-game, especially in BW2, the frick are you talking about?
Subjective opinion
moronic statement
>muh sales=quality
Subjective opinion
>If I close my eyes and plug my ears, then no one has a problem with them!
>one guy on fricking CBR or whatever
oh no
Camden Jones is clearly moronic
I'm sorry I'm playing bw2 in Android Emulator not on nds
>The animations and sprites aren't good.
It's a ds game
>The "gimmick (rotation battles) isn't good.
Subjective
>The story is convoluted and so beyond salvaging that apologists literally have to use the "2deep4u" argument.
Better than other Pokemon main game stories
>Unova is probably the most linear region, outside of alola.
Bw2 fix this
>Almost no post-game
Most moronic I ever heard
Bw2 have the most best content than any other pokemon main game example Pwt, treehollow,join avenue, pokestudios,funfest,battle subway
>Some of the worst legendaries and mythics
Subjective
>Failed at being a soft reboot of the franchise
Gen 5 games is the most downloaded Pokemon game in internet
>The least popular generation
I don't think so
>Worst starters
Subjective
Zoomie here. My first Pokemon game was HGSS and I got BW shortly after and played them both simultaneously. They're both good games for different reasons, but I probably prefer BW for its harder difficulty even though HGSS is the much cozier experience.
>Because BW/B2W2 are not good games
But better than all Pokemon games
It’s my favorite Gen and I started with RBY. You dense tasteless shittard
it's funny how npcs always generate the same defenses for gen 5.
Not him but your argument goes both ways.
well that's what happens when you say anybody who likes gen 5 grew up with it and/or a zoomer
You will never be the true OG, johtoddler.
my first pokemon game was red and even I think gen 5 is the best.
This is one of the reason why I'm quitting Pokemon because of people like this
More like you're the only moron homosexual who hates them, sorry for you. Some day you'll have some taste.
I started with yellow and I like them
gen 5 needed them to do animations for every single pokemon with front and back sprites so instead of making one complex but lifeless still image they made several hundred simplistic but animated sprites. Also right looks like shit so you know
In-game, the sprites move.
god damn the anti unova trannies sure are getting desperate
nothing on the ds looked that good
gen 1's back sprites were ass too. what the hell???
What annoys me even more is the constant zooming in battle
OP btfo
>they made it uglier so that it's not as blatant when otherwise good sprites get ugly because of dynamic zooming/panning/scaling
woah... so this is the power of mental gymnastics
Cuz we REALLY NEEDED sprites with shitty animations 24/7
>technology got better and works better on a $2,000+ PC
Really actives the almonds.
The DS screens have a resolution of 192p, they look perfectly fine on it.
>The DS screens have a resolution of 192p,
Then why are the back sprites blown up to be half the resolution that the DS is capable of?
>>Then why are the back sprites blown up to be half the resolution that the DS is capable of?
Because gamefreak are incompetent, can't optimize and triple/double battles have slowdown because of it
right would look terrible in Gen 5's battles because of the dynamic zooming/panning/scaling that's constantly going on. It would look like a shimmering mess. There's a reason they kept the chunky look they did.
the dynamic zooming/panning/scaling looks fricking awful regardless of what sprites they use.
It all comes down to the exact same excuse they make every time. The sheer number of Pokemon. They used it to explain the sprite work in gen 5, and then the reused models and animations in gen 6, 7, and 8. But in gen 5, it may have at least made some sense and been true, I guess. The games included every Pokemon and idle movement was new to the games. So they cut corners and used old movements or sprites, and didn't put forth the effort to create new sprites for the majority of the Pokemon. This meant they were going to stick to a specific ratio and not change it for the game. That's what happened in gen 5, and it was almost excusable. Until every gen after that has gotten lazier and lazier and more and more recycled.
At the end of the day all of GF's problems come down to laziness and an inability or an unwillingness to do better. They've been using the same excuses for decades and as time goes on they are less and less applicable.
>At the end of the day all of GF's problems come down to laziness and an inability or an unwillingness to do better.
truer words have never been said.
>Pokemon having bad movesets
laziness to do an actual list of moves each Pokemon can learn instead of spreading it throughout different means like level up, tm, egg move, etc
>shit level design
sheer laziness
>small region
laziness + unwillingness
>not having actually good textures for the environnment
inability since they don't have people that do good ones in their team + unwillingness to have more people in this very team
>dexcut
unwillingness to make sure every Pokemon work in the games
>shit gimmicks
laziness to put actual content that would draw people towards the game and instead add battle-gimmick marketing stunts
What's especially weird is that they use that argument now, but it's openly untrue. The argument for Dexit in gen 8 was the sheer number of Pokemon, but the models and the animations were already made. So what the frick were they complaining about? Why did they do it? Fricking baffling. I'm sick of them hiding behind that argument.
The texture work is probably more effort than it looks. Not to the point of it being undoable, but would the need of a larger team to implement it on the schedule they have. And then keep increasing the number every generation after, and it makes sense why they would want to nip the expectation of this ASAP.
>but the models and the animations were already made
No they weren't. But I'm sure you already know this, BBNDtard.
>No they weren't.
what did anon mean by this
What's wrong with the retro-look?
I'm still not buying Sword and Shield.
Why is OP so butthurt about gen 5 that she posts the same thread over and over and over again?
Because he's moronic
>leave for months
>yawngay and his discord cronies are still here
wow, you guys are just sad
who cares?
people with standards
you play pokemon
Maybe gen5 isn't as good as /vp/ claims?
sex with your mother sure isn't
go back underage
I'm old enough to legally have sex with your mother
But are you old enough to produce seishi and nakadashi her?
I don't speak weeb, I have sex