I'll be honest. I was an Xbox player, had most of the frames legit but then switched to PC and couldn't transfer my character. So now I just everything with Turkish lira if I'm interested but the past prime frames have been meh and even wisp is meh
>really good gameplay loop >try this piece of shit in solo >enemy spawns are so slow and staggered half the time you're just waiting on anything to shoot, especially in survival/wave defense missions >maps are huge and empty because you can't have anything nice when you need a billion and one easily reusable mission times to pad out your multiplayer progression scheme instead of just like giving you a set of replayable campaigns that are designed from the ground up to be FUN instead of grindable(see L4D/Alien Swarm vs Payday 2) >half the weapons are shit that exist only to be farmed for masteries >powers feel like a "I'm bored, wipe the screen for me please" button that belongs in an entirely different game >have to pay for a half decent color palette because they scientifically found the least usable set of colors to give to free players >customization can suck my dick because certain mods are so laughably above everything else you'd be moronic not to use them(damage mods over anything else) >half the content that feels like it was added five years ago and then never touched again(the open world segment) >try something in multiplayer so that I'd get decent enemy spawns >level 30 10k hours played autists spamming one ability over and over again, having modded their builds to never run out of energy wiping out entire directions of the map every other second
The game does absolutely shit all for me because I wanted to have fun instead of grinding interchangeable weapons and frames in interchangeable levels fighting interchangable bosses
someone didn't tell you that this is a grinding game, I think
yes, it starts absurdly slow and new players have a hell of a time understanding what they're supposed to be doing, that doesn't change the fact there is a lot of shit to like if you can get past the ABYSMAL(yes, it is fricking terrible) adjustment period
It's an autistic grinding game for autists with OCD, same as destiny and any other PvE GaaS game, you're right to just leave though, there's such a monumentally large amount of grind in the game right now that I would only recommend you to start playing if you can somehow find a way to time travel back to 2013 because the way the grinding was structured is made so you only play every few weeks/months and get the new goodies as the game goes along.
This. Even as a mild fan of the game the amount of catch-up you have to do is ridiculous.
There are so many roadblocks anymore that in order to play without paying you'll either have to wait for an entire year+ between the million things you'll have to craft, the slow mastery rank system, only being able to take one test a day and several frames being vaulted it's a b***h. >just get plat through in game trading!
cool story but the only thing people are willing to pay a lot of plat for are highly sought after vaulted weapons and frames. If you want plat quickly you'll either have to grind hours on end to get a weapon that someone might buy off you for 30 plat or just honestly buy your way through the lower levels
9 months ago
Anonymous
>in order to play without paying you'll either have to wait for an entire year+
huh? I went from new player to steel path and archon farming in about three months, how do you need to pay?
I don't think warframe is an amazing game, but the monetization model really deserves some commendation, it's incredibly fair and I haven't spent plat on anything except slots(about 200 ish) and cosmetics
You can only gain a certain amount of standing per day, in order to unlock specific things, you need more standing than what you can get in a day.
I'm really pissed that the Earth and Venus rep grinds are so fricking terrible, meanwhile they actually figured out the right system with Deimos and Zariman. I can't imagine the number of new players that heard they could make their own melee weapon only to get cucked by a week+ grind
9 months ago
Anonymous
There are a shit ton of mods that you'll need maxed out in order to optimize your build, some of those mods literally don't even drop anymore because they were for limited time events which if you're lucky, might come around again once a year.
On top of that you'll need lots of forma to perfect your build along with orkin catalysts and reactors. Formas in particular you'll have to grind hours on end for and they take 12 hours to build. Each Warframe part takes 12 hours to build and it takes 72 hours to build a Warframe itself.
That's not even mentioning the time it takes to build weapons and the time it takes to get through the mastery rank systems which can only be climbed at one rank per day.
Thats also not even touching on the reputation systems of several different clans and planets at this point that can only be farmed so much in a day.
If you want prime frames that have been vaulted, good luck without spending several hundred plat and when a majority of unvaulted weapons sell for like 30 plat max, it's so fricked.
Unless you can literally sit down for 18 hours a day you can spare, Warframe is a pay to play game for most new players.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>need >optimize
Do you understand how disparate these terms are? Yes, the perfect mod set takes grinding. Grinding for better items is the point of the game. You don't need optimal gear for anything except steel path, eidolons, or archon hunts, all of which are more than 100-200 hours in.
Forma are incredibly easy to farm. You run some random relics in public, pick the forma blueprint, set it to craft, and forget about it until 23 hours later. Again, you're not supposed to farm these like crazy because they allow optimal mod sets.
>the time it takes to build weapons and the time it takes to get through the mastery rank systems which can only be climbed at one rank per day.
Not a single item needs more than mastery 16, and only building the market-buyable blueprints and farmable star chart bosses(aka, completely free gear) takes you to MR 12 or so. Again, this is the point of the game.
I agree with you on the rep systems, those suck dick, but I can't agree on the vaulting system. The drop pools would be insanely diluted otherwise, and the Prime Resurgence system lets you dip into the vault for rare shit every two weeks or so, which you can buy with ingame currency, Aya. It's the only reasonable way to balance thousands of different drops all being available.
I'm not even currently playing the game because I'm tired of Duviri, but I can't agree with you on the monetization. If your issue is that it is POSSIBLE to pay real money to buy purchasing power in plat, and then trade that plat for ingame items from other players, I don't know what to tell you. I would rather take this F2P system where the premium currency is in the hands of every player and is commonly traded, than literal pay for power schemes.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Forma farming is incredibly easy. At some point, if you aren't building formas all the time until you have no more blueprints, you are playing the game wrong
You don't even "need" them until you get to Lich weapons and shit like that, and you don't really "need" lich weapons either
>try this piece of shit in solo
dunno what you're talking about
I played every type of content the game has to offer (including solar rails & raids when they were a thing) from 1 to legendary.
I did everything I could in solo, including high end bullshit, so it's clearly possible to enjoy the game that way
Yeah, this is what I did. Played for like a year or two, quit when Railjack came out because the grind for it sucks, came back just now and played for like a month or two, and I'll quit again when I get the Wisp Prime blueprint.
>Wisp Prime blueprint
The sexually appealing designs for the female warframes is the only reason people bother grinding their ass off for the blueprints. The whole crafting system in this game is dogshit and only makes you to grind more resources.
that reminds me that they still haven't fixed the fricking entrati lanthorn grind when it's clearly not working as intended
I spent a week just spamming AoE limbo breaking containers & doing the sentinel exploit, and it still took forever, even with doubled ressources
Warframe devs don't have a clue what people actually want. I mean, the operator stuff was so fricking unnecessary. Why does my cool space ninja assassin killing machine have to be controlled by some fricking dork? It's like the homosexuals at DE watched evangelion and decided this would be so cool in their game. Totally ruined the fricking game. Also adding huge open world spaces that are devoid of parkouring and shit that made the game actually cool and fun.
Sometimes I log in just to flex this piece of shit excalibur prime on people though. People actually thank you for "supporting the game" and say gay shit like, "Without you, the game wouldn't exist!" It's like, get real you fricking morons all I did was pay $50 one time and now I get a free wiener slobbering every time someone sees me
I actually kinda like the operator except when you're forced to play them outside of the story.
Also you're right. They hyped up the open world only for them to both suck
the infected planet is literally the only good open world because of that, there is an actual progression that you can enjoy. Fortuna & Cetus are so ass in comparison
>It's like the homosexuals at DE watched evangelion and decided this would be so cool in their game. >It's like
This IS their thought process behind 99% of the game's design decisions.
Think about it - why did they suddenly make the open world shit around the same time that other 'open world' game was coming out?
Same thing with operators, solar rails, etc.
>Games as a service >lootboxes and mtx >RNG + grindy ass game >F2P even though Destiny was a pay2play
Everything wrong what a game shouldn't be and why people who play these are all casino addicts.
>Just wanted to play Halo but after Bungie left MS >Think D1 looks pretty cool >actually play the game >big fricking letdown of a story >but gameplay is fricking fun >rare weapons and armor everywhere means there's a ton to explore and discover >drop rates are fricking AIDS tho >raids are really cool >very primitive in retrospective >PvP is fricking fun even if it's stupid broken shit >PvP gets PvE nerfed all the time which is stupid as Bungie has shown they can calibrate weapons differently for PvE and PvP already
I.E sniper rifle headshot damage capping out at 216 or something, instead of tens of thousands of damage >overall the game is a huge waste of potential, but salvagable by it's unmatched art direction, gunplay, lore and secrets
>enter D2 >2 steps forward 10 steps backwards >didn't even play past the beta until forsaken >finally the game feels like it's fricking good >seasons get introduced >along with season passes >oh frick not this shit >then the content vault that removes most of the game's DLC and mainline content
I swear for every KINO thing that destiny did right it spawned 2 bullshit changes that nobody asked for.
I feel sorry for all the people that were letdown by it, including the people who worked on the games.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone who worked on d1 is gone these days. I have no idea how Bungie pissed away the massive amount of money they got for being bought by Sony
>I have no idea how Bungie pissed away the massive amount of money they got for being bought by Sony
Marathon or D3 is the answer IMO.
Before lightfall, witchqueen and beyond light were announced we(as in we the destiny community) had speculated the darkness triangle shit would be dealt with in destiny 3 and that forsakeen and it's mini-DLC bosses were the end of D2.
This would complete the 10 years of destiny with D3's final DLC coming out 2024.
Oh how wrong we were, they've been funnelling that money into those projects for a while now.
>Oh how wrong we were, they've been funnelling that money into those projects for a while now.
Reminds me of how the only thing at Square that makes money anymore is FFXIV, but instead of putting that money back into XIV, they instead stole the money and used it to fund games like Forsaken, Avengers, THIEF, etc.
XIV is even going through a content drought now, because Square stole the game's director and put him on XVI, so he couldn't work on XIV for two years. So the game has had no content for two years. And then XVI flopped because Square signed an exclusivity deal with Sony.
No wonder Yoshida was so happy to get confirmation of XIV on Xbox.
I'm addicted to it and understand completely people's gripes. Some of the shit they slapped on is stupid beyond reason. I just like double-jump flipping across a map and bisecting a dude with a sword and vaporizing his friends with a high powered laser blast.
>bring Umbra into New War >get to the end where Ballas knocks you out of your frame >Umbra just kneels there, despite being an autonomous frame and wanting to kill Ballas
Man. They shouldn't added something extra for Umbra, like Ballas makes sure to hit him with a big attack to throw him off the arena.
I'm noticing people here are exclusively talking about Warframe gameplay.
It's leading me to believe that Destiny doesn't actually have any real players, just drones.
generally, people say the game's biggest problem is the content islands (loops) (plains, vallis, drift, duviri, railjack), do they mean the presentation/implementation (having to load in/out) or do they mean the gameplay (ecosystem wide, unique resources in that area)?
1. How could they fix the presentation if that's the case? Loading is needed in every game, sure they can hide it behind some clouds/beams but that's still loading.
2. Is the ecosystem really a negative point? Sure, most resources you get in that area is unique, but you can also use some resources you already have, mix it with the new, to craft unique gears from those areas, then you can bring them outside of the loops (bringing Zemos, Lavos, etc. outside from the Cambion loop)
What is your vision for a "unified" Warframe? Is there even such a thing?
Content islands is a problem where you go to a place and do its content, which is not connected to any other content. You get the rewards - frames, weapons, whatever. You are now done with the island and will likely never have reason to go back there. You do mining to get mining stuff, which is only useful until you're done with mining, and you will be DONE, there is an end point to it when you've made your zaw/kitgun parts/rep capped. Ditto fishing and hunting. You do railjack to get a good railjack in order to be able to do railjack missions better, which is completely irrelevant to everything except railjack missions. It's frustrating to have all these things that you have to work on, and then you're done with, and they have no bearing on your next content island whatsoever.
>It's frustrating to have all these things that you have to work on, and then you're done with, and they have no bearing on your next content island whatsoever.
While I agree with the sentiment, I will have to point out a few unusual points: mining is not entirely limited to only one loop. As they have made some loops requiring materials from the previous ones.
For Zaw/Kitguns, what do you propose? Why do you want to do them infinitely? Wouldn't that waste time?
Fishing is more or less the game as mining. You fish for parts, and these parts and basically materials, and again, some are used in the other loops so it's not really a "one-time".
Railjack is probably the most "closed-loop" system, yet in it, you can still get Warframes and Weapons to be used outside of the loop. You can also use Necramech, which is acquired from Cambion to clear end-game missions to get Arcanes, which can be used outside. This is not counting once you can access Derelicts, you can get unique stuff such as Athodai, Carmine penta, etc. And in Railjack, you can farm Prime parts with Void Storm, which is one of the main gameplay aspects of Warframe.
At the end of the day, despite having multiple "connections" between one another, the game still feels disconnected. What can the game ultimately do to "connect" itself together? This question has been in my mind for quite a few years now.
And to top it off, having to return to somewhere constantly is not always a good thing. See: Argon Crystal.
has some truth to it, it seems to be having its longest hit yet, but it seems like nothing it can't mostly recover from, though it depends on when it will start growing again.
Games as a service + the devs are literal morons
Games as a service.
gaas
Warframe is really good if you only intend on playing it for about 2-6 months, doing everything available, and then quitting for a couple years
It has a really good gameplay loop but is fricking awful to try to get into, it feels like Dynasty Warriors x Monster Hunter
plus, wait for about 3 updates to drop before playing again. shit can get fun again
I'll be honest. I was an Xbox player, had most of the frames legit but then switched to PC and couldn't transfer my character. So now I just everything with Turkish lira if I'm interested but the past prime frames have been meh and even wisp is meh
wisp is ass
>really good gameplay loop
>try this piece of shit in solo
>enemy spawns are so slow and staggered half the time you're just waiting on anything to shoot, especially in survival/wave defense missions
>maps are huge and empty because you can't have anything nice when you need a billion and one easily reusable mission times to pad out your multiplayer progression scheme instead of just like giving you a set of replayable campaigns that are designed from the ground up to be FUN instead of grindable(see L4D/Alien Swarm vs Payday 2)
>half the weapons are shit that exist only to be farmed for masteries
>powers feel like a "I'm bored, wipe the screen for me please" button that belongs in an entirely different game
>have to pay for a half decent color palette because they scientifically found the least usable set of colors to give to free players
>customization can suck my dick because certain mods are so laughably above everything else you'd be moronic not to use them(damage mods over anything else)
>half the content that feels like it was added five years ago and then never touched again(the open world segment)
>try something in multiplayer so that I'd get decent enemy spawns
>level 30 10k hours played autists spamming one ability over and over again, having modded their builds to never run out of energy wiping out entire directions of the map every other second
The game does absolutely shit all for me because I wanted to have fun instead of grinding interchangeable weapons and frames in interchangeable levels fighting interchangable bosses
someone didn't tell you that this is a grinding game, I think
yes, it starts absurdly slow and new players have a hell of a time understanding what they're supposed to be doing, that doesn't change the fact there is a lot of shit to like if you can get past the ABYSMAL(yes, it is fricking terrible) adjustment period
>It gets good after X hours!
Frick this shit.
Monster Hunter is the same way, you do baby shit for at least ten hours first and that is a proven winner formula
Warframe is absolutely a heavy-investment looter game, and if you don't find a point in doing that, then it's not for you
I mean, it either clicks for you or it doesn't, it's just that simple
It's an autistic grinding game for autists with OCD, same as destiny and any other PvE GaaS game, you're right to just leave though, there's such a monumentally large amount of grind in the game right now that I would only recommend you to start playing if you can somehow find a way to time travel back to 2013 because the way the grinding was structured is made so you only play every few weeks/months and get the new goodies as the game goes along.
This. Even as a mild fan of the game the amount of catch-up you have to do is ridiculous.
There are so many roadblocks anymore that in order to play without paying you'll either have to wait for an entire year+ between the million things you'll have to craft, the slow mastery rank system, only being able to take one test a day and several frames being vaulted it's a b***h.
>just get plat through in game trading!
cool story but the only thing people are willing to pay a lot of plat for are highly sought after vaulted weapons and frames. If you want plat quickly you'll either have to grind hours on end to get a weapon that someone might buy off you for 30 plat or just honestly buy your way through the lower levels
>in order to play without paying you'll either have to wait for an entire year+
huh? I went from new player to steel path and archon farming in about three months, how do you need to pay?
I don't think warframe is an amazing game, but the monetization model really deserves some commendation, it's incredibly fair and I haven't spent plat on anything except slots(about 200 ish) and cosmetics
I'm really pissed that the Earth and Venus rep grinds are so fricking terrible, meanwhile they actually figured out the right system with Deimos and Zariman. I can't imagine the number of new players that heard they could make their own melee weapon only to get cucked by a week+ grind
There are a shit ton of mods that you'll need maxed out in order to optimize your build, some of those mods literally don't even drop anymore because they were for limited time events which if you're lucky, might come around again once a year.
On top of that you'll need lots of forma to perfect your build along with orkin catalysts and reactors. Formas in particular you'll have to grind hours on end for and they take 12 hours to build. Each Warframe part takes 12 hours to build and it takes 72 hours to build a Warframe itself.
That's not even mentioning the time it takes to build weapons and the time it takes to get through the mastery rank systems which can only be climbed at one rank per day.
Thats also not even touching on the reputation systems of several different clans and planets at this point that can only be farmed so much in a day.
If you want prime frames that have been vaulted, good luck without spending several hundred plat and when a majority of unvaulted weapons sell for like 30 plat max, it's so fricked.
Unless you can literally sit down for 18 hours a day you can spare, Warframe is a pay to play game for most new players.
>need
>optimize
Do you understand how disparate these terms are? Yes, the perfect mod set takes grinding. Grinding for better items is the point of the game. You don't need optimal gear for anything except steel path, eidolons, or archon hunts, all of which are more than 100-200 hours in.
Forma are incredibly easy to farm. You run some random relics in public, pick the forma blueprint, set it to craft, and forget about it until 23 hours later. Again, you're not supposed to farm these like crazy because they allow optimal mod sets.
>the time it takes to build weapons and the time it takes to get through the mastery rank systems which can only be climbed at one rank per day.
Not a single item needs more than mastery 16, and only building the market-buyable blueprints and farmable star chart bosses(aka, completely free gear) takes you to MR 12 or so. Again, this is the point of the game.
I agree with you on the rep systems, those suck dick, but I can't agree on the vaulting system. The drop pools would be insanely diluted otherwise, and the Prime Resurgence system lets you dip into the vault for rare shit every two weeks or so, which you can buy with ingame currency, Aya. It's the only reasonable way to balance thousands of different drops all being available.
I'm not even currently playing the game because I'm tired of Duviri, but I can't agree with you on the monetization. If your issue is that it is POSSIBLE to pay real money to buy purchasing power in plat, and then trade that plat for ingame items from other players, I don't know what to tell you. I would rather take this F2P system where the premium currency is in the hands of every player and is commonly traded, than literal pay for power schemes.
Forma farming is incredibly easy. At some point, if you aren't building formas all the time until you have no more blueprints, you are playing the game wrong
You don't even "need" them until you get to Lich weapons and shit like that, and you don't really "need" lich weapons either
>try this piece of shit in solo
dunno what you're talking about
I played every type of content the game has to offer (including solar rails & raids when they were a thing) from 1 to legendary.
I did everything I could in solo, including high end bullshit, so it's clearly possible to enjoy the game that way
Wow, pretty much everything you said is false, I'm impressed.
Yeah, this is what I did. Played for like a year or two, quit when Railjack came out because the grind for it sucks, came back just now and played for like a month or two, and I'll quit again when I get the Wisp Prime blueprint.
>Wisp Prime blueprint
The sexually appealing designs for the female warframes is the only reason people bother grinding their ass off for the blueprints. The whole crafting system in this game is dogshit and only makes you to grind more resources.
that reminds me that they still haven't fixed the fricking entrati lanthorn grind when it's clearly not working as intended
I spent a week just spamming AoE limbo breaking containers & doing the sentinel exploit, and it still took forever, even with doubled ressources
Oh, I just make every Prime frame I can. I just finished Baruuk Prime and am about to shelve him forever.
I like my shield mom and you can't take her away from me
Holy frick that is one obese looking warframe. lul
she's NOT fat she's just muscular ok
Warframe devs don't have a clue what people actually want. I mean, the operator stuff was so fricking unnecessary. Why does my cool space ninja assassin killing machine have to be controlled by some fricking dork? It's like the homosexuals at DE watched evangelion and decided this would be so cool in their game. Totally ruined the fricking game. Also adding huge open world spaces that are devoid of parkouring and shit that made the game actually cool and fun.
Sometimes I log in just to flex this piece of shit excalibur prime on people though. People actually thank you for "supporting the game" and say gay shit like, "Without you, the game wouldn't exist!" It's like, get real you fricking morons all I did was pay $50 one time and now I get a free wiener slobbering every time someone sees me
I actually kinda like the operator except when you're forced to play them outside of the story.
Also you're right. They hyped up the open world only for them to both suck
>both
There're 4 now.
Oh yeah I guess there's the infested planet (which I hate lately due to how timegated everything is) and where else again
the infected planet is literally the only good open world because of that, there is an actual progression that you can enjoy. Fortuna & Cetus are so ass in comparison
I like that there's actual shit to do but the fact that I have to wait 24 hours to gather certain materials kills it for me
isn't the Fass/Vome cycle not actually tied to irl day and night and just a couple hours long? Or are you talking about something else?
You can only gain a certain amount of standing per day, in order to unlock specific things, you need more standing than what you can get in a day.
earth, venus, deimos
duviri is NOT an open world because you can only go there in the context of a mission
>It's like the homosexuals at DE watched evangelion and decided this would be so cool in their game.
>It's like
This IS their thought process behind 99% of the game's design decisions.
Think about it - why did they suddenly make the open world shit around the same time that other 'open world' game was coming out?
Same thing with operators, solar rails, etc.
Always reactive, never proactive = Warframe
>Games as a service
>lootboxes and mtx
>RNG + grindy ass game
>F2P even though Destiny was a pay2play
Everything wrong what a game shouldn't be and why people who play these are all casino addicts.
>Just wanted to play Halo but after Bungie left MS
>Think D1 looks pretty cool
>actually play the game
>big fricking letdown of a story
>but gameplay is fricking fun
>rare weapons and armor everywhere means there's a ton to explore and discover
>drop rates are fricking AIDS tho
>raids are really cool
>very primitive in retrospective
>PvP is fricking fun even if it's stupid broken shit
>PvP gets PvE nerfed all the time which is stupid as Bungie has shown they can calibrate weapons differently for PvE and PvP already
I.E sniper rifle headshot damage capping out at 216 or something, instead of tens of thousands of damage
>overall the game is a huge waste of potential, but salvagable by it's unmatched art direction, gunplay, lore and secrets
>enter D2
>2 steps forward 10 steps backwards
>didn't even play past the beta until forsaken
>finally the game feels like it's fricking good
>seasons get introduced
>along with season passes
>oh frick not this shit
>then the content vault that removes most of the game's DLC and mainline content
I swear for every KINO thing that destiny did right it spawned 2 bullshit changes that nobody asked for.
I feel sorry for all the people that were letdown by it, including the people who worked on the games.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone who worked on d1 is gone these days. I have no idea how Bungie pissed away the massive amount of money they got for being bought by Sony
>I have no idea how Bungie pissed away the massive amount of money they got for being bought by Sony
Marathon or D3 is the answer IMO.
Before lightfall, witchqueen and beyond light were announced we(as in we the destiny community) had speculated the darkness triangle shit would be dealt with in destiny 3 and that forsakeen and it's mini-DLC bosses were the end of D2.
This would complete the 10 years of destiny with D3's final DLC coming out 2024.
Oh how wrong we were, they've been funnelling that money into those projects for a while now.
>Oh how wrong we were, they've been funnelling that money into those projects for a while now.
Reminds me of how the only thing at Square that makes money anymore is FFXIV, but instead of putting that money back into XIV, they instead stole the money and used it to fund games like Forsaken, Avengers, THIEF, etc.
XIV is even going through a content drought now, because Square stole the game's director and put him on XVI, so he couldn't work on XIV for two years. So the game has had no content for two years. And then XVI flopped because Square signed an exclusivity deal with Sony.
No wonder Yoshida was so happy to get confirmation of XIV on Xbox.
>space shooter :
>space shooter, cute anime girls with funny hats :0
Drop a name
I'm addicted to it and understand completely people's gripes. Some of the shit they slapped on is stupid beyond reason. I just like double-jump flipping across a map and bisecting a dude with a sword and vaporizing his friends with a high powered laser blast.
>bring Umbra into New War
>get to the end where Ballas knocks you out of your frame
>Umbra just kneels there, despite being an autonomous frame and wanting to kill Ballas
Man. They shouldn't added something extra for Umbra, like Ballas makes sure to hit him with a big attack to throw him off the arena.
I miss farming xini or void survival in the tunnel with the boys
now it's all reputations and autism
>Warframe
>started off promising
It was a shitty Mass Effect clone lmao. Warframe got good after movement rework and coptergay genocide.
I'm noticing people here are exclusively talking about Warframe gameplay.
It's leading me to believe that Destiny doesn't actually have any real players, just drones.
the space shooters i play are awesome, sounds like you just play shitty games.
generally, people say the game's biggest problem is the content islands (loops) (plains, vallis, drift, duviri, railjack), do they mean the presentation/implementation (having to load in/out) or do they mean the gameplay (ecosystem wide, unique resources in that area)?
1. How could they fix the presentation if that's the case? Loading is needed in every game, sure they can hide it behind some clouds/beams but that's still loading.
2. Is the ecosystem really a negative point? Sure, most resources you get in that area is unique, but you can also use some resources you already have, mix it with the new, to craft unique gears from those areas, then you can bring them outside of the loops (bringing Zemos, Lavos, etc. outside from the Cambion loop)
What is your vision for a "unified" Warframe? Is there even such a thing?
Content islands is a problem where you go to a place and do its content, which is not connected to any other content. You get the rewards - frames, weapons, whatever. You are now done with the island and will likely never have reason to go back there. You do mining to get mining stuff, which is only useful until you're done with mining, and you will be DONE, there is an end point to it when you've made your zaw/kitgun parts/rep capped. Ditto fishing and hunting. You do railjack to get a good railjack in order to be able to do railjack missions better, which is completely irrelevant to everything except railjack missions. It's frustrating to have all these things that you have to work on, and then you're done with, and they have no bearing on your next content island whatsoever.
>It's frustrating to have all these things that you have to work on, and then you're done with, and they have no bearing on your next content island whatsoever.
While I agree with the sentiment, I will have to point out a few unusual points: mining is not entirely limited to only one loop. As they have made some loops requiring materials from the previous ones.
For Zaw/Kitguns, what do you propose? Why do you want to do them infinitely? Wouldn't that waste time?
Fishing is more or less the game as mining. You fish for parts, and these parts and basically materials, and again, some are used in the other loops so it's not really a "one-time".
Railjack is probably the most "closed-loop" system, yet in it, you can still get Warframes and Weapons to be used outside of the loop. You can also use Necramech, which is acquired from Cambion to clear end-game missions to get Arcanes, which can be used outside. This is not counting once you can access Derelicts, you can get unique stuff such as Athodai, Carmine penta, etc. And in Railjack, you can farm Prime parts with Void Storm, which is one of the main gameplay aspects of Warframe.
At the end of the day, despite having multiple "connections" between one another, the game still feels disconnected. What can the game ultimately do to "connect" itself together? This question has been in my mind for quite a few years now.
And to top it off, having to return to somewhere constantly is not always a good thing. See: Argon Crystal.
I heard lots of people are leaving Destiny 2 recently is that true?
has some truth to it, it seems to be having its longest hit yet, but it seems like nothing it can't mostly recover from, though it depends on when it will start growing again.