It's price?
Seriously laptops usually go down in price by as much as 200$ the moment they can't run new games anymore.
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Why is the deck holding
It's price?
Seriously laptops usually go down in price by as much as 200$ the moment they can't run new games anymore.
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because it's not a dime a dozen laptop? what kind of question is this
Any tech should go down in price when it loose some functionality.
Try selling a 1050 laptop for 550
Theres no real competition dipshit
Oh so a monopoly?
A monopoly only exists when the sole supplier dominates a market by actively participating in anti-competitve practices. Valve doesn't stop you from buying game and UMPCs from other retailers, but it dominates because the competition is hot liquid shit.
But it does have an unfair advantage because it also takes a 30% cut on the games.
>30% cut
industry standard timmy
maybe if you had spent the fortnite money on a functional storefront you wouldn't be hemorrhaging money with free games that people already owned/pirated
on consoles the 30% pays for the console hardware the person buying the games bought for subsidized price
on steam the 30% pays for
Gabe's dragon dildo collection.
R&D, paying employees, server maintenance, working on projects... etc etc
>like every other corporation
would steam go bankrupt if they charged 10% or would that be enough to pay for the server upkeep and whatever staff required to keep steam going`?
>would steam go bankrupt
They make more money than they know what to do with.
It would make money at 10%
Why does it matter how much Steam charges developers? How is it an unfair advantage? How is it related to Steam being a monopoly? If we operated on that logic, EGS (taking a 12% cut) would be a serious contender, but clearly that's not the case compared to Steam.
What are you trying to argue here?
that it doesnt need to be 30% for the platform to exist
And why does it matter? Valve is a business. If it can make more money by taking an INDUSTRY STANDARD cut why shouldn't it? If it was a problem developers would protest and threaten to move to a different platform.
>GABE NEEDS MORE DRAGON DILDOS
Are you a game developer/publisher that has moved from Steam to Epic, and with what game? Did you see an increase in revenue from customer purchases?
Steam Deck is custom built to take your Steam library away from the desktop.
I accept your concession.
What functionality has the Deck lost your stupid fricking Black person?
There is no other gaming device that beats the Deck in performance per watt.
And how long can you play a game on battery?
the stream deck isn't a 1050 laptop so your comparison remains moronic. just save up the cash and buy a deck you poor idiot
Isn't the deck equivalent to about a 1650 laptop? Your post makes no sense since it's the cheapest option.
>when it loose some functionality.
Okay, and what functionalities did the Steam Deck lose?
Anon, I'm going to let you in on a little secret, you can use money you've "earned" on the steam marketplace to buy a Deck, just sell off all of your items and there you go, cheaper Deck.
Because if the price goes down it goes back into selling at a loss territory
It's already being sold at a big loss, Valve can just afford to do that because of Steam bringing in billions of dollars/users.
The deck is a complete larp and anyone who buys it is a moron. They stuck the shittiest OS on it, it barely runs games at 60fps, and it's impossible to figure out how to emulate games. It's just a shittier laptop.
works for me :^)
Install emudeck moron
Emudeck isn't recommended anymore, Emulation Station moved to a fricking Patreon model which is gay as hell.
>Emudeck isn't recommended anymore
The hell it isn't
>Emulation Station moved to a fricking Patreon model which is gay as hell
Then just don't have emudeck install it then. You think they're one in the same or something?
>Emudeck isn't recommended anymore
>source: my fricking Black personbrain
you're an absolute moron
>it's impossible to figure out how to emulate games. It's just a shittier laptop.
i am sorry you're such a brainlet to put a sd card in and watch a youtube video
>and it's impossible to figure out how to emulate games
I thought new generations were supposed to be better than us with tech lmao
No. The new generations didn't grow up with older more hands on systems.
No, they never had to learn anything because everything is just memes and icons.
Everything was handed to them on a silver platter so they had no need to learn how to use command prompt or how saving files even works.
The new generations are dumb as rocks by choice.
Zoomers don't know how to operate a mouse or open a folder. I am not joking, I've had to teach these dipshits at work. They are unironically worse than boomers.
What? The new generations are apple junkies
>it's impossible to figure out how to emulate games
literally IMPOSSIBLE
lmao
You will never get ps3 games to run on it and without them it fails to be the ultimate emulation machine.
The handheld to rule them all will forever be another one.
Or the deck 2
>emulation is impossible!
>oh no, i meant ps3 emulation, i'm not moronic i swear!
That wasn't me.
Also works on my pc
But I did get ps3 emulation to work ...
>You will never get ps3 games to run on it
Genuinely how fricking moronic are you?
Ps3 emulation works almost perfectly on the deck. Why are tendies such liars?
I've ran all this shit with practically no issue what so ever
Drakengard 3, virtua fighter 5 and FS, usf4, twisted metal, virtua fighter 2, virtual on, odins sphere, xillia 1 and 2, persona 4 arena ultimax, tekken 6 and dozens more.
>usf4
But why though.
That's just for Android, as gay as it is.
Try uncharted,god of war 3 ...
I already have.
Uncharted 3 is like mgs4 and you need a custom build of rpcs3. Same for gow3. They still have a few texture issues in places but you can play them from start to finish
I have Tokyo Jungle, Demon Souls, and Dragons Crown PS3 running on my Deck.
I also want to get 3D Dot Game Hero and Afrika but theyre a bit trickier since they were only available as a physicsl copy not digital that means the easiest piracy method via nopaystation doesnt support them
>3D Dot Game Hero
Easy to find on ROM sites now but don't bother, there is some sort of DRM check at the start of the game that 100% crashes it every time you reach that point so unless you can get a savefile that is made after that point you can't even play it currently even though it boots and plays perfectly up until that point
RPCS3 runs great and it's only the heaviest (and buggiest) of games that can't run on the Deck currently. I've played through Tokyo Jungle, DeS and Dragons Crown on my deck, they all run like a dream at 720p-1080p while DC runs on such low TDPs that I've managed to keep playing it for upwards of 4+ hours on battery.
The current state of RPCS3 means that it's not just handhelds but 80% of PCs that can't run every "supported" game currently but shit have been advancing since the deck was released. I couldn't get Skate 3 to run on my 'eck before but now it runs pretty well even though it makes it sound like it wants to die while draining the battery so quickly that there is no point in unplugging it from the wall while I play Skate 3
>You will never get ps3 games to run on it
You have no clue what you're talking about
PS3 emulation struggling with certain games has nothing to do with the deck and everything to do with the emulator itself still needing a lot of work. The deck is more than powerful enough to handle it.
>replying to shitty b8
can u not
>The deck is a complete larp and anyone who buys it is a moron
Can literally smell the soi in your post. Hello tendie beta
>impossible to figure out how to emulate games
It's literally way easier than on windows desktop, just click a few buttons.
>it's impossible to figure out how to emulate games
Most intelligent w7 user.
artifact enjoyer located
still buying the Valve Phone
So what are your thoughts on the switch
Trading their company game developing abities to hardware company
hmm, deck seeming awfully flopped? shitted even?
In all serious how hard is the OS to install on a normal PC? I want to stop using micro dick shit but I don't have enough experience with programming and shit to use linux.
make a partition and a boot disk (flash drive) and just follow the instructions
why would you want to use steamOS on a desktop? Its stupid. Just use a regular distro. SteamOS doesnt have anything amazing in it, it just has Steam integrated into the OS and it also makes it so that you are not free to do anything outside your userfiles. Its shit for anything other than deck
Just install something Arch based with KDE and you have SteamOS but more up to date version
just install Linxu Mint or something. No one that uses Linux needs programming at all.
>In all serious how hard is the OS to install on a normal PC?
Easy but don't, just install Arch using a noob guide instead since you'll get the exact same thing but better and more secure, you can also go the "I'm to dumb too use Google" route and install Ubuntu or Linux Mint instead since they are both moron friendly Linux distros. Even once Volvo officially releases as standalone distro it will still be smarter to just install any other distro unless your literally not going to use the PC for anything but vidya.
>Why is the deck holding it's price?
>Seriously laptops usually go down in price by as much as 200$ the moment they can't run new games anymore.
When looking at a $900 laptop that gets a $200 price cut you have to remember that it cost them like $500 to make the thing. The original Deck launched at $400, it was already on a razor thin margin and has gone as low as $350. Basically Valve skipped the "wait a few years" step and gave you the good price now. You can't get blood from a stone, the only way the Deck gets lower now is when they are clearing final stock.
The iPhone costs 100$ in parts and 10$ to make why do you think this costs more?
Why do people keep believing them when they say they don't make money on everything?
Valve doesn't even have remotely the kind of purchasing power that Apple does.
You can't buy the Iphone parts for $100.
Try buying anything at more than 1milon parts from china and see what insane discount you get.
Apple probably has to pay more because they create a production problem since they need 20 million and they need it fast.
Also this is old tech and there is no competition for the chip
>The iPhone costs 100$ in parts and 10$ to make why do you think this costs more?
Feel free to go ahead and source that extraordinary claim because a Google search certainly doesn't agree with you... like at all.
It's and I'm talking labor
it was on a news segment ntabtw
and also years of research of and development, prototypes, testing, etc…
a whole lot of intangible shit goes into making these products and while I agree that generally huge markups are evil greedy things, you can’t JUST look at material and manufacturing costs. it took real time and effort to get to the point of a product being produced.
You are pretending like valve invented the form factor.
They didn't these types of device's have been around for almost 10y.
This is literally a mini PC motherboard in another package.
Smart people know how to make their work sound important.
But all these companies do is repacking existing tech.
If you ever messed with things these days you would know it's easier then ever to prototype.
There isent much new tech in this thing except for the trackpads.
This. It's like how no one wanted a tablet until the iPad but they were around for years.
ask Nintendo. the Switch is worth like $50
My theory is price is based on perception and has nothing to do with actual cost and hasn't in year's
100%. Same reason iPhones hold their value far better than android phones.
They'll buy it because it's the Valve cult.
I want handheld PC and I am not using windows ever again, Rajesh.
It's objectively one of the best if not the best deals in UMPCs you can get, and unlike most other UMPCs it's being backed by Valve with long term support instead of just being sent out and ignored while they work on the next $1000 product to sell.
Hell the OLEDs came with a die shrink and better battery life IIRC.
It didn't fix the performance
What's there to fix? I've finished RDR2 with an average 30-45 FPS with textures maxed out and everything else on ultra.
Sure, the Rog Ally is more powerful, but the Deck has a way longer battery life.
It doesn't run several new games and won't run dragons dogma 2
>It doesn't run several new games
Only new games I've played that it doesn't run well are Starfield and the TLOU Port, and apparently Starfield actually runs well now that it has FSR3.0
Literally Allen woke and balder's gate and there are others.
Also it's not as good as other handhelds at emulation
Black person Baldur's Gate 3 runs great, hell, it's literally verified.
No idea about Alan Wake 2, haven't played it.
>Also it's not as good as other handhelds at emulation
Which ones?
>Black person Baldur's Gate 3 runs great, hell, it's literally verified.
Runs at 15 fps
I've finished it and although the framerate does go up and down a lot it was always in between 30 to 50 FPS, that was with the default settings.
I locked it to 30 FPS and maintained them the entire game.
Ps3 emulation on ally
No shit, PS3 emulation still has issues even on PC.
And the ROG is better, but it's also more expensive.
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Looks fine to me
>inb4 i-it's FSR it doesnt count
Wow, that looks fricking horrid
It falls apart in other places
>Looks fine to me
>balder's gate
I literally beat bg3 on it while emulation is a breeze and it can emulate damn near everything. And not even you seem like you give a frick about alan wake if you're calling it alan woke. You gays are way too desperate to shit on this thing.
>balder's gate
Oh, I guess I just imagined the mostly rock solid 30fps/720p experience I had then. Granted, the game smears like shit and sucks down battery like a million dollar hooker sucks down cum when there is a lot of stuff on the screen at once but other than that it plays and looks fine
The OLED in some cases has almost twice the battery life, plus the fans are way quieter.
I wouldn't recommend the LCD unless you can find the 64GB version for 300 bucks, you can just change the SSD and it'll be worth it.
It's objectively the best handheld, UMPC or otherwise.
You realize he’s a shitposter and doesn’t care, right?
I bought an RTX 4060 gaming laptop for the price of an OLED steam deck.
Gamers are really dumb for paying the Valve tax. Gabe Newell's new super yacht is going to be huge thanks to dumb nerds
A laptop and a Steam Deck are not the same thing and if you ever left your computer chair you’d know that
Try sitting on the couch playing a fricking laptop, it’s miserable
I play my laptop in bead and always have I literally don't get it?
Is this a poop machine?
Steam hide games that don't support it
Can tell the name of that laptop, you bought for 400 bucks
Gabe Newell's fanboys are a category of stupid on their own. Valvegays are worse than every console gays.
Total
Steamie
Death
How's the alternatives?
I would spring for an Ally if it weren’t for Windows.
Doesn't it have sd card problems and shitty battery life?
yes it gets so hot the sd card tray melts
I would love to buy that good of a laptop for 200$ can you find me any?
still 2-3 hours battery life though miss me with that
There is not a single company making an actual competitor to this product. There are a few that attempted and completely missed the mark. It's also frequently on sale.
That's because amd is the new Intel.
But arm will eat it's lunch soon enough
Anyone here undervolt their deck? Also do you guys just use the default color settings?
>Anyone here undervolt their deck?
Yes. I tried -50/-50/-50 but it wasn't stable. It didn't crash or anything, but the device refused to boot sometimes.
I increased it to -40/-40/-40 and it works fine now. No idea how much of a difference this undervolt makes, probably not much, but better than nothing.
I think mine's -10/-10/-10. Maybe I'll try -40 later.
-50 cpu/gpu and -40 on the last option (can't remember what it was). No crashes.
I do know Alan Wake 1 runs like shit.
Tons of tweaking.
And even then all the light effects are super blocky and the visuals are ruined.
You mean alan wake 2? Alan wake 1 runs flawlessly.
Are you stupid anon? The LCD has gone down in price since the OLED has been released.
That thing is unpayable such an bad display belongs in the trash
Is HEVC still fricked on poolaris cards? Can't for the life of me get HEVC to work for steam streaming.
I bought the 64gb one.
The internal 64gb flash drive started failing in under a year and eventually the drive failed to even do recovery installs.
Can't recommend it.
I then bought a 2tb drive for $50 on a deal, slapped it in and it has worked great ever since. Phenomenal value for ~$300 overall.
Can recommend.
They have the brand and guarantee to keep the same price, same as Nintendo with the switch
Inb4 chink handhelds
supply and command
Because Pcbros will buy it anyway.
i dont like shit tiny screens
not the deck . not the switch . not the psp . nothing . they are all shit
Because it's like $330 for a refurbished one, it doesn't have that much to fall compared to a $2000 gaymen laptop.
$279.00 for the 64GB LCD model
It's probably already being sold at a loss
Not a thing it never happened
Then why can't any other handheld match its price? They can easily offset it with steam
Because non of them are using a CPU that steam got cheap because it's from an ev or something that went bankrupt
Getting lucky helps in business
Because most of them are aiming for 1080p which at that form factor is fricking moronic.
$250 is a steal, honestly. Don't look at what they charge for the other UMPCs with like 20% performance uplift and 40% missing features.
The device isn't just its performance in a vacuum. Its the ergonomics, the inputs, the built quality, the feel of the buttons and sticks, etc.
The Deck is easily still the best gaming UMPC out there because its contours make it comfortable to hold.
That's only because the entire industry is incompetent and released broken Device's.
Fan problems battery ugly screen WiFi problems you don't remember the release?
should i get a deck bros? i already have a switch but i want to play some of my non graphically intensive steam games
Sure, I have a switch and a deck and I use the deck way more
Do you have a V1 Switch? If so, have you homebrewed it? If you have a hacked Switch, I don’t feel the Deck is a worthy enough performance increase for the money. You can run Moonlight over your home network for all of your Steam games at 720p/60fps. The small latency hit is better in that setup than on games that the Deck can’t lock at at least 30.
it's 2024 and folks havent figured out a console-ish 100% effective and plug n play way for dummies to just get some, sit on the couch and play pc games on the tv. I say the deck is somehow close.
the moment someone puts a zero hassle machine with controllers on the living room with no-pay pc multiplayer... it's gonna be a turning point.
and don't gimme this "kb+mouse" while on the couch, that's atrocious. that's why consoles (don't say that in a happy way) are superior. they deliver more with better costs and little effort as usual.
oled deck literally supports wake on bluetooth, it's basically as close as you can get to couch comfy while using the dock
a deck 2 that can run AAA stuff decently (60 at mid settings) and emulate ps3 games would make consoles obsolete
Windows doesn't fricking work on anything except actual desktops.
That's what I heard, nightmare to install on non-desktop niche devices
I'm still thinking of between oled, ally and legion but it seems eck is the best
Deck is way better. Sure, those others are theoretically more powerful but they lack battery life and even then the performance doesnt really fix it that its running windows which isnt ideal for handheld. You are gonna get fricked with that.
The deck is by far the better all around package. The better specs in the other two aren't worth the sacrifices in all the other areas.
I think the Deck is the better all arounder. If you just want performance though, modern PC games will look and run better on the GO and Ally. Seriously, the screens and processor are a nights and days difference.
If you're only playing old shit like FO:NV then get a deck for sure.
>Seriously laptops usually go down in price by as much as 200$ the moment they can't run new games anymore.
As someone who has been shopping for laptops to replace my steam deck, this is literally not true, like at all lmao
Laptops typically only get discounted when distributors are trying to clear stock and that typically only happens when a better / refreshed model comes out. I can still find laptops with fricking 2050 graphics cards being sold for 70% of their value being sold in stores and online right now.
it's because the Steam Decks main selling point is that it's a portable console that can play PC games and it's only competition in that very specific market are way more expensive
Because it's subsidized by Steam and basically the cheapest thing on the market already. If it weren't for Steam you can bet it would be priced closer to the Rog Ally / Legion GO.
That said Rog Ally on sale is the superior option so I recommend anyone looking into handheld umpcs to pick it up.
>windows 11
>low battery life
no. Thats not an handheld PC, thats just a PC
You get 4 hours when emulating on it which is good enough for me. I can't really think of a case where I'd need to go more than 4 hours without a plug or a battery tbh senpai
yeah well since its windows 11, Asus doesnt actually give you a direct support software wise. Steam Deck gives you much better support, you could just file a bug report or something and Steam themselves would start messing with it since its their Linux distribution
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but I haven't had an issue that required ASUS tech support yet. It's just Win 11, anyone can troubleshoot it.
if there is something wrong with the software on the device, Asus cant do shit and they need to beg for Microsoft to take care of it.
Again, I haven't had any problems. ASUS is actually pretty good at fixing their software (Armory crate is actually good now) and for everything else you can just fix via the usual windows troubleshooting of
>Google problem
>Watch 2 minute youtube video of an indian explaining how to fix it
I guess I'm just more tech literate than most people that I haven't had any problems.
look. Windows is an OS, Asus doesnt code Windows. If there is Windows related problem then Asus cant do shit. That is not with Steam Deck.
As I said, there has been windows problems with armory crate in the past and the fixes got pushed out pretty quickly. I've actually been impressed by how quick ASUS is to stay on top of bugs. They seem to actually want the Rog Ally brand to stay, which is more than can be said for their shitty laptops lmao
>If it weren't for Steam you can bet it would be priced closer to the Rog Ally / Legion GO.
The main things the Deck has going for it over the Windows handhelds is the bulk rate production where it is producing far more systems a week which lowers prices, Windows much greater resource demands compared to GNU/Linux based OSes, and of course the fact that Windows licensing is not free for OEMs while Valve does not have an OEM contract with Microsoft.
I'm going to need a source on this. It's the first time I'm hearing there's more Decks out there than Rog Allys, which are in every single Bestbuy I go to.
Has it even hit a million units? The Windows handhelds are being made by Windows OEMs in the kind of volume they usually make systems. Which means small batches using off-the-shelf hardware. They may have supplied every Best Buy in the country with a few units, the way their laptop supply chain works, but they aren't moving a ton of systems that way.
Meanwhile the Deck now has two different custom chips, and AMD doesn't fab custom chips unless you are doing big bulk orders over a long period of time.
That, and statements made by Valve employees, implies they are somewhere around 100k units a week since the OLED production started. Still not quite console-level sales volume, but substantial.
Why are you asking me? You should be providing a source for your claims.
>The main things the Deck has going for it over the Windows handhelds is the bulk rate production
I sincerely doubt that. Hardware is not Valve's main business and they're not trying to produce and ship out tons of units, as seen by the total lack of marketing, retail presence, or even its existence in most countries. It makes far more sense that the price can be lower because they can easily make it all back with Steam.
>Deck
>Production
There are period where it's constantly on back-order and it literally isn't even available in most countries. Asus is definitely producing more units for their handheld. Valve just has a lower price because Steam prints money and as you mentioned, no licensing fees.
>There are period where it's constantly on back-order
This was more common before they had a separate production line for the cheapest system.
None of the Windows handhelds are being produced in anything close to that volume.
>The main things the Deck has going for it over the Windows handhelds is the bulk rate production
No, anon.
Asus has a better-optimized hardware production pipeline than Valve can even dream of.
The main thing the Deck has going for it is the fact the lowest-priced option is sold at a severe loss and the higher-priced ones have paper-thin margins.
LOL, no. Windows OEMs have their production optimized for quick turn around, not so much volume production of a single product.
The GPU in these other handhelds still hasn't even shown up in the stats. Deck has sold more than some entire GPUs.
Currently sitting even with every Windows Laptop with a RTX 3070.
You are a clueless moron anon, holy shit.
It took them several months trying to fix the damn SD reader, between this and the spicy mobo disaster trying to pull a fast one on warranty Asus is one of the most unreliable big names today. Valve was really fast to fix their issues, comparatively.
That's an indication of Asus not giving a frick - not an indication of them having to spend more on production.
Have they even baked a cake? Valve got there in about 9 months of production, and then they hit the next million about 6 months after that, and now they are on pace to sell a million units every 3 months.
God those smudges hurt my eyes. I'm so glad the rog ally isn't a finger print magnet.
You think the SD card reader can't be fixed day 1 when it's a simple matter of putting thermal insulation around the slot? No, it's just ASUS being greedy fricks and ignoring it until everyone started returning / RMAing it and it got such a bad rep no one was buying that shit anymore.
Linux steamdeck 6.1.52-valve16-1-neptune-61 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue, 06 Feb 2024 00:51:49 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
stay mad wincels
I've been humming and hawing about getting a deck for a while now, my biggest fear is I'll buy it and never use it because I hate handhelds and controller schemes over kb&m, and I don't know if it has any function outside of gaming. For 2.5k or whatever the hell it is, I'd probably be better off using for my next PC upgrade.
It's only $500 and it more like an underpowered yet ultra portable PC.
It's $500 and you have access to 2 programmable pressure sensitive trackpads and four back buttons. You can map many old PC games onto the Steam Deck that would never fit onto a Dualsense, let alone an Xbox controller. You can easily download other controller scheme thanks to Steam Input.
Steam Deck has the complete package, custom made optimized linux distro plus their own ergonomic control scheme and a vast number of comunity made widgets (emu deck, cryotools, sharedeck, etc).
What 200$ laptop can play RDR2 at max settings?
Anyone got the Legion Go? How does it preform?
I'm curious too
In vids it seems it stuttering
Just refurbished this Steam Deck.
umm if someone did this to their steam deck its obviously not very good right bros??
i wonder 🙂
Really makes you think.
Why?
.
>woman
I bet there are morons out there who fall for this shit.
Just
what is this moron even doing?
>doing
Fixing it good
adhd zoomers have a meltdown if they don't have an instant feedback for everything they do
He's trying to "prove" how bad the 'eck is by mashing the powerbutton and going "SEE!? IT DOESN'T INSTANTLY TURN ON AND OFF! SHIT SUCKS!". Ironically, Volvo has updated the sleep function a few months ago that makes sleep almost instant (as in, as soon as you see the backlight on the screen turn off, you can turn the deck on again and be ingame within 2ish sec, 3ish if you have PIN enabled)
Well, it's Kirby, complete garbage of a series. The only possible players are going to be a child, a child (woman), or a child (sexual predator); the Switch's audience.
>the first 30 seconds of the game
>anon ran through it 30,000 times just to generate enough shaders (beating the game several times at suboptimal frames)
>framepacing still dips on consuming an enemy
kek, jej even.
>Bro, just beat the game at suboptimal frames so you can make enough shaders to actually play it at native!
This cracks me up every time. The vegan delusion is pure bliss.
Download shaders fixed
>t.
what am I even looking at?
I think they're trying to prove the Switch is better because it runs kirby better? But one is just a native application for the Switch while the other is essentially a portable PC that is running a WIP emulator for the console emulate the console.
In all other cases the Deck (or basically any x86-based handheld) is better, especially in cases where the game has been ported from Switch to PC like Project Diva Megamix. That game was sub 720p in handheld mode on Switch and obviously the Deck can handle it at native 800p or higher.
>steamies wait 7 years to get a device that can emulate switch kino at suboptimal frames to 'dunk on the tendies'
>steamies unironically pay for 'digital products' that they think they 'own'
decks are literally made for poorgay vegan pirate Black folk like OP and i'm done pretending otherwise
Tendie gay on his rant as per usual showing debunked videos and sperging out
I wanted to buy a deck for years and recently had a change
but now that I'm in love i suddenly lost interest in videogames
yep, i'm thinking steam deck fricking sucks shit.
Predators can't live down the Switch 2(urd)'s delay.
sry forgot to post my selfie
Average Steamie
>1240 reviews
Bots ?
Wrong pic
when is ayymd going to fix the gpu crash issues? valve radio silence for months is also not very cool. you would think a problem this big in an entire line of gpus would get priority but we are stuck waiting for basement spergs on gitlab to fix it for free
What crash issues? You didn't install Windows like an idiot, did you?
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3111
these, which have been popping everywhere in forums online pretty much since launch
>you didn't install windows like an idiot, did you?
i tried in the previous 'eck. only a techlet homosexual doesn't experiment with his devices. doesn't matter anyway, it's unrelated to the crashes
>never had it happen
>never seen it mentioned anywhere before this
>report is only a month old, little to no feedback
>"popping everywhere"
Right.
there is a thread on steam with 100 pages of people saying it happens to them too moron. how about you don't talk about shit you know nothing about? the thread is a month old because it was moved from somwhere else
Yet there's no link.
when i post it you'll say that it's the only one and ask me to post another 15 links instead of googling steam deck amdgpu crash like a coping homosexual?
I will mock you if it's not exactly as you described it.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1675200/discussions/1/3186864655209404156
>inb4 it's only 47 pages, it doesn't cout
>there is a thread on steam with 100 pages of people
Yeah.
Anyway, it did and still does work on my machine, might be bad chips.
my second steam deck started doing it too, i'll send this one back whenever i get around it. it's a bit different though, i had the freeze with audio thing in the first one, now it just crashes and reboot. same error logs
>literally who said it in the thread!
thanks for the insight
same, currently waiting on my third RMA
so sick of this shit... just want to play video games
Linux simply isn't there yet for gaming.
Pick up a UMPC optimized for the Windows operating system and never look back.
STFU moron.
many people saying and doing this
>legion go
bait, everyone knows this one is shit
The timestamp is about how Windows and portrait display UMPCs suck, actually.
badfaith dumbfrick Black person
get back to me when you've watched his GPD winmax 2 review
What about it? Is this AI generated posting? The subject is Windows being a shit, including the Go. Does that help, Mr Roboto?
>inane schizo babble
He objectively loves the GPD Win Max 2 for reasons explained in his video which you will not watch because you are a badfaith Black persontroony.
This is where you introduce any link at all between his feelings about random product and the issue showcased.
>random product
>LITERALLY A UMPC OPTIMIZED FOR WINDOWS
frick off moron
so GPD winmax 2 good?
Nothing about the video says it's optimized for Windows at all, plus the fact it's a fricking mini laptop (which he hooks up to a 4090 as a desktop replacement) speaks volumes. Still "just enough" AMD Windows drivers, still mouse and keyboard bound, still missing the point of handhelds. You that GPD shill from a while ago?
don't listen to the other homosexual fren, keep valve on their toes by sending it back another 3 times if necessary
that's an interesting hypotesis, but my second deck never had windows installed so there is more to it
>don't agree with the commonness of it
i've been reading around about this a lot so i might have confirmation bias, seeing people sending it back 2-3 times and then having to send it back a second time myself. i guess i'll just see how's the next one
>but my second deck never had windows installed
How would you know? Its probably a refurbished RMA unit. Valve may not have a check in place that can detect for Windows putting a bad firmware in place.
You're not undervolting like this idiot, are you?
it's too common of a problem for being due to tinkering. anyway no, the only "unconventional" thing i did was install windows in the first steam deck. it's either an hardware issue due to shit quality control or something that can be mitigated by a different power delivery to the GPU, which means it needs a kernel patch. not just the deck, all the devices that use the same model
Then I dunno, man. Definitely don't agree with the commonness of it, but sucks you got burned.
>UMPC optimized for the Windows operating system
No such thing, even before getting into how they're all AMD which GPU wise inevitably performs best on loonix. Closest it gets is the Ally and only because of its native landscape display keeping Windows from introducing issues.
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>not just the deck, all the devices that use the same model
Deck LCD and Deck OLED use custom SOCs exclusive to those systems. One of the hypothesis in there was a firmware issue, I wonder if Windows loaded a bad firmware or voltage settings that got 'stuck'.
Literally sez in the thread it's not the GPU, it's a faulty Texas Instruments power monitor.
I love the 30% cut argument.
The question you should be asking is: Is going with steam worth losing an extra 18% over epic's 12% cut?
It absolutely is, egs gives you no value above that 18% saved per sale. However, you won't have the sale volume on egs that steam has.
That's not even going into the other features steam has, like the workshop and community and forum support
Steamies be like
now thats clever
so TRRUUUUE!!!!!!!
Tho!!!!
People defend this expensive shit because its le gaben
>moronic homosexuals comes in and starts dunking on the steamdeck and "steamies"
>doesn't offer any alternatives
literally don't care about brand loyalty, I just want a handheld computer. What I don't want is to listen to you're pathetic mewling.
I think the Index is still holding steady at $999, and that fricker is mad outdated at this point.
Yikes!
Get a real handheld that can play modern games like the Legion Go
i boughted
how much worse is the battery life compared to the deck? I mean I don't care too much since I'll probably only use it when I get sick of sitting at my desk but if I only get like an hour out of it, it doesn't really seem worth it for the price.
It is very good. Me and my wife enjoy it lots.
It uses the same battery as the LCD Steam Deck, a 40wh battery. But from what I see on Youtube channels like Retro Game Corps, the APU isn't very efficient at lower wattages compared to the Deck's, and Windows seems to be more resource intensive compared to SteamOS, so that drains the battery life even faster. As a result it seems to be an hour if you push it (like on Steam Deck), 2 hours or so for lighter games. Not what I consider to be very ideal as a portable device compared to the Deck, even though the Deck itself can take up a lot of space in a backpack...
If you want something more energy efficient/portable, you're going to have to look at Android devices like the Odin 2 or the Ayaneo Pocket S. But unfortunately since its Android that means that you aren't going to be able to do as much compared to a traditional PC.
*Rog Ally
It has the best performance out of the big 3 right now. Legion GO still has software issues.
hmm ok so i just finished reading the thread and it sounds like the deck didn't do very well huh? maybe next time it won't be as 'shitted' and 'flopped' as you are all saying
Man i installed Warframe to have some multiplayer stuff to play, but it really grinds my gears that steam downloads some weird 2GBs of mystery data for that game constantly, i finished a mission during lunch using my phone's internet connection and after exiting the game, steam tried to download those 2 GBs, using my phone's data plan!
To bad that never happened
My phone data plan is 100gb and I pay 2€ a month
Yeah well, i live in Chile
Why would i lie about this?
I see the moronic Nigtendo fan is back from his vacation
I wish thid shit wasn't so expensive in my third world country, the deck looks awesome to play
After reading through this thread it feels like I should wait another 5 years before I even bother with a handheld.
Pretty much. You’re not going to have to wait 5 years either. The 2nd gen pc handhelds are going to be way better than what’s currently available. It’s not going to be a minuscule jump like modern consoles are putting out in new gens. 50%-100% performance gains aren’t out of the question in this space.
Just wait for deck 2.
Full ps3 emulation
Better more mature switch emulation
Better battery since it will be 3nm
Most bugs already fixed in Linux .
Never buy first gen you will be a tester for free
it literally plays anything i could ask it to. if i want to play alan wake 2, i can play it on my fricking pc with the 3080 in it. i use my deck to play games in bed before i go to sleep.
it's arbitrary restricted to USA.
Meanwhile everybody in the rest of the world can walk to a physical store and get a Nintendo Switch,PS5 or prebuilt right now
Deck bros, help. I'm at a point of burning big money for an emulation handheld, but I have no desire to run my Steam Library on the go.
>Steam Deck OLED
VS
>Odin Pro 2 (Max)
I know the Deck is an emulation king, but the Odin is more pocket friendly plus I have a case for it.
>Plus I don't trust myself with installing a new SSD/Nvme drive and getting it right.
What should I get? Money isn't an issue.
Regardless of your decision replacing the drive is brain dead easy
Just don’t be a literal animal
>Money isn't an issue.
Get the Lenovo legion go use it as a tablet with Bluetooth controller