playstation was a more appealing purchase on the surface at the time of release, but retrospectively the gamecube had a lot of memorable games that people look back fondly upon
great so a bunch of suburban adolescent boys wanting to be grown up thugs like weird al's "white n nerdy" song, glad we have self-proclaimed "mature gamers such as myself" to blame for sony ruining the game industry
Yeah the early 2000s was peak wigger culture. Nintendo were fuddy-duddy about the zeitgeist for most of the generation, which is why their games from that era don't feel as dated today.
The DVD player shit is such a zoomer cope, I don't know anyone that bought it as a DVD player, actually I've met people who didn't even know it could play DVDs.
It sold well because Sony had the best dev support, which attracted lots of third parties, and PS1 was the winner of the gen before. That's all. The rest just made it even more successful.
so we have reached the point where zoomers who werent alive during that generation have rewritten history so that the PS2 now is a trash console without any games
the n64/ps1 schism caused a lot of third party devs to leave nintendo - as a result the PS2 ended up having way more third party titles than the cube
95% of the time this just meant it had more shovelware, but it also ended up having some of what would become the biggest hits of the 2000s for normies - GTA, shooters, and licensed sports games
for comparison imagine if games like fortnite and apex legends were exclusives in 2018 - whatever console had them would certainly have won
I can't believe people are still parroting this lame line of, the PS2 only won the console generation because it was a “cheap DVD player”. New flash, DVD players were already pretty cheap at the start of the 2000’s and only got cheaper as the years went on. You don't sell 155 million units of a console, because of an included DVD player (that the Xbox had no less). It has always been, and always will be because of the games. Stop rewriting history to fit your narrative.
Those are cost reduced Gamecubes from the end of the console's life. They brought back the originally limited Silver color for those cut down models with no digital out or serial port 2.
It's still an amazing price for an GameCube. If I would of saw that at Walmart back then, I would of bought it. It doesn't change the fact Nintendo was desperately trying to sell units.
It flopped because Nintendo was moronic, it didn't lack quality of games. It's one of Nintendo's best platforms. Focusing on sales as a sole indicator of quality is one of the worst things you can do for yourself. Whether it be individual games or consoles.
I was underrated. Not perfect, the small disc size and lack of online connectivity was short sighted, but the games, even by today's standards, were really good. On top of that, the system was very portable. small size, has a handle, easy to set up. You could even use the gameboy player to play gameboy games on the big screen. It was the perfect system to bring to sleepovers/parties for millenials at the time.
>the games
Gee sure packing the console with Luigi's fricking fisher price halloween game, the worst 3D mario ever made and a Zelda that went against everything its hype campaign wanted was perhaps a bad idea
>super mario and tales of symphonia vs gta3 and final fantasy x
GameCube >inb4 but Symphonia was released on PS2 as well
Only in Japan, and I don't speak japanese.
>flop
Green numbers to Nintendo. Just buried under the massive ps2 success as everyone else. GC had killer games and multiplats performance, no og xbox is irrelevant
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I agree but the Wii port was June 2007. If you wanted RE4 in 2005 it would be worth a GCN on its own.
Every time RE4 gets a port, something new is broken
GC –> Wii — Lower polygon count inventory items from PS2 port
GC –> Wii –> Xbox 360 — Broken and missing effects, bad mapping conversion for ALL the models of the game, missing sound reverb effect.
GC –> Wii –> Xbox 360 –> UHD — Animation and sound issues, black pickup screen, bad optimization with lots of performance issues in some computers
The PS4 version is just copy-paste of the “HD textures option” from PC Ultimate HD. Only a few extra character textures were improved for PS4/Xone.
Also some enemies behavior issues if I’m not mistaken. But I’m not sure in which port…
Still aside of resolution the GC/Wii and UHD with HD Project are the best versions. It has the best color palette and lightning and have bloom to the fire effects.
Resident Evil 4 HD Project removes terrible looking PS2 version assets.
https://www.re4hd.com/?p=5281
>WEAPONS and other item MODELS: The models used for all post-Gamecube versions have less polygons than the original Gamecube version. It seems they kept (perhaps by accident?) the low-poly versions from the PS2 port of the game. I restored and even improved all of these models. There is a limitation with these models that crashes the game if the file size of certain files are larger than the original, but I found that there is some dispensable data that can be removed from the .bin files (the 3D models), and even entire .bin files that are unused in-game
well part of that was because the ps2's architecture was as fricked-up and nightmarish to develop for as the ps3's, the vaunted "emotion engine" was basically pasted together with a toilet paper roll and vomit
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>well part of that was because the ps2's architecture was as fricked-up
No, that was the result of PS2's particle effects. Something that was very important to Sony and its system. The cell was a complete frick up
It has a lot of good games, that's basically it >but why did it flop at release then????????????
No DVD playback, the zeitgeist was MATURE GAMES FOR MATURE GAMERS and it had relatively limited multiplatform support. You didn't get games like Grand Theft Auto or Star Wars Battlefront on the Gamecube.
because surface level babies love their nintendies so much and for so long they need to buy 20 year old consoles they were always a fan of and had so many precious memories with for the first time and experience the games they love so much and for so long for over 20 years for the first time
or stick them on a shelf and say dude wind waker
or make some shitty youtube video essay where they hold it up and emulate all gameplay footage
or homosexual ass smash
Zoomers grew up watching nintendie youtubers who cope saying the GNC was unfairly treated, so they spread the myth foward it's actually an awesome system and not a piece of shit that failed for every reason it should've >kiddy design in an era edgy mature games were hip and cool >the shitty crippled size minidisk media >bad lineup of important releases overtime especially after launch >Nintendo's persistence on the fricking link cable when competition banked on online functionality
>Nintendo is more popular than ever >Nintendo is more collectable than ever >It's not 20+ years old so in the prime time for the nostalgia boom >low sales so low supply for the demand >PS2 was so dominant many people missed out and now want to try it out
It's going to happen to the WiiU in 15 years so stock up, bruhs.
>It's going to happen to the WiiU in 15 years so stock up, bruhs.
shouldn't have taken that fricking long to begin with, best gen8 console and gamers murdered it because they were too busy jerking off their "hardcore true gamer" microdicks
great so a bunch of suburban adolescent boys wanting to be grown up thugs like weird al's "white n nerdy" song, glad we have self-proclaimed "mature gamers such as myself" to blame for sony ruining the game industry
Yeah the early 2000s was peak wigger culture. Nintendo were fuddy-duddy about the zeitgeist for most of the generation, which is why their games from that era don't feel as dated today.
I'd say the games were loved, the console itself nobody ever gave a frick about. Kind of crazy that back then, in the era of ps3 and Xbox 360, Nintendo went with the Wii and basically sucked ass until the switch came out.
It's insane to think how successful the switch really is
It didn't have a dvd player or gta then, now gta is on everything but cube games are still only on the cube, look better than everything else that gen thanks to the way the console did shaders, runs better than the other two as well,
It's anti-Zoomer cope.
>now
>flop on release
How bout I flop you and never release
It's so strange, PS2 was the only console I didn't own.
mainly the fact its graphics were so impressive that most of its best catalog either is 60fps or looks incredible even today
It was popular among kids and teenagers. Had little "adult" appeal outside hardcore Nintendo fans.
PS1 overtook the N64 and the PS2 was more powerful and had a lot more games, Gamecube didn't have much going for it.
Like the 64 though it had a few really great games which built a long-term fanbase
PS2 was more powerful than GC? In what universe?
anon
It's software holds up better than its contemporaries.
Because everything now is shit and the disparity of tech to good game ratio is so fricked that this plastic box surpasses it.
pikmin
ssbm
super mario sunshine
metroid prime
pikmin 2
loz wind waker
i neglected animal crossing
Because Snoys hated the Wii even more since it actually beat the PS3.
>someone made this image and posted it
lmao can you imagine
Nintendo fans dominate online gaming space. Other gaming fans just play games, not talk about them.
>Other gaming fans just play games
Other console fans literally just play Fifa and COD. Not even hyperbole.
playstation was a more appealing purchase on the surface at the time of release, but retrospectively the gamecube had a lot of memorable games that people look back fondly upon
PS2 was such a wet noodle of a console in hindsight, how the frick did that thing sell so well? was it really just the "cheap dvd player" gimmick?
>how the frick did that thing sell so well?
GTA.
Then why Xbox didn't sell as well?
The Xbox ports came out later and the console was more expensive.
great so a bunch of suburban adolescent boys wanting to be grown up thugs like weird al's "white n nerdy" song, glad we have self-proclaimed "mature gamers such as myself" to blame for sony ruining the game industry
Yeah the early 2000s was peak wigger culture. Nintendo were fuddy-duddy about the zeitgeist for most of the generation, which is why their games from that era don't feel as dated today.
It was unironically piracy, so third worlders bought it in droves because it was the only console they could actually afford games for
The DVD player shit is such a zoomer cope, I don't know anyone that bought it as a DVD player, actually I've met people who didn't even know it could play DVDs.
It sold well because Sony had the best dev support, which attracted lots of third parties, and PS1 was the winner of the gen before. That's all. The rest just made it even more successful.
so we have reached the point where zoomers who werent alive during that generation have rewritten history so that the PS2 now is a trash console without any games
your time is over Xoomer, what you value means NOTHING
the n64/ps1 schism caused a lot of third party devs to leave nintendo - as a result the PS2 ended up having way more third party titles than the cube
95% of the time this just meant it had more shovelware, but it also ended up having some of what would become the biggest hits of the 2000s for normies - GTA, shooters, and licensed sports games
for comparison imagine if games like fortnite and apex legends were exclusives in 2018 - whatever console had them would certainly have won
I can't believe people are still parroting this lame line of, the PS2 only won the console generation because it was a “cheap DVD player”. New flash, DVD players were already pretty cheap at the start of the 2000’s and only got cheaper as the years went on. You don't sell 155 million units of a console, because of an included DVD player (that the Xbox had no less). It has always been, and always will be because of the games. Stop rewriting history to fit your narrative.
uh huh, sure, and yet the ds only sold identically to the ps2 cuz of "teh caszuulz", right?
>always will be because of the games
Not really. You can see what sold well. It's all shit
It still explains my point. The PS2 sold so well because of the games coming out for it. It was basically endless choices.
I am not sure what you are talking about, but alright.
Those are cost reduced Gamecubes from the end of the console's life. They brought back the originally limited Silver color for those cut down models with no digital out or serial port 2.
It's still an amazing price for an GameCube. If I would of saw that at Walmart back then, I would of bought it. It doesn't change the fact Nintendo was desperately trying to sell units.
It flopped because Nintendo was moronic, it didn't lack quality of games. It's one of Nintendo's best platforms. Focusing on sales as a sole indicator of quality is one of the worst things you can do for yourself. Whether it be individual games or consoles.
t.millenial boomer.
I was underrated. Not perfect, the small disc size and lack of online connectivity was short sighted, but the games, even by today's standards, were really good. On top of that, the system was very portable. small size, has a handle, easy to set up. You could even use the gameboy player to play gameboy games on the big screen. It was the perfect system to bring to sleepovers/parties for millenials at the time.
>I was underrated.
>the games
Gee sure packing the console with Luigi's fricking fisher price halloween game, the worst 3D mario ever made and a Zelda that went against everything its hype campaign wanted was perhaps a bad idea
>shitting on Luigi's Mansion
it smell like b***h in here
Zoomer-tendie revisionism.
super mario vs gta3 and final fantasy x
>you pick
>super mario and tales of symphonia vs gta3 and final fantasy x
GameCube
>inb4 but Symphonia was released on PS2 as well
Only in Japan, and I don't speak japanese.
now turn all this around and look at the perspective of launch titles. nobody wants a damn gamecube.
I'm too lazy to google now, but I'm pretty sure that launch title was Riiiiiiidge Racer. Was FFX launch title as well?
guessing you weren't alive back then.
resident evil 3 was another title ppl wanted a ps2
>"I am le oldgay"
RE3 was on PS1
Are you thinking of Code Veronica which was on Dreamcast?
my bad, 99% of the reason ps2 was wanted more is because of backward compat + dvd player
Code Veronica was on DC, PS2 and GC
>flop
Green numbers to Nintendo. Just buried under the massive ps2 success as everyone else. GC had killer games and multiplats performance, no og xbox is irrelevant
GC was a joke. RE4 was the only game it had that people (aka non-tendies) wanted to play. Then it came out on PS2. Xbox at least had Halo.
The PS2 port was downgraded so hard you would have been much better off buying a GCN just for RE4. They were cheap at the time.
>The PS2 port was downgraded so hard you would have been much better off buying a GCN just for RE4. They were cheap at the time.
RE4 Wii edition was best until UHD on Steam
>until
Still is and by far
I agree but the Wii port was June 2007. If you wanted RE4 in 2005 it would be worth a GCN on its own.
Every time RE4 gets a port, something new is broken
GC –> Wii — Lower polygon count inventory items from PS2 port
GC –> Wii –> Xbox 360 — Broken and missing effects, bad mapping conversion for ALL the models of the game, missing sound reverb effect.
GC –> Wii –> Xbox 360 –> UHD — Animation and sound issues, black pickup screen, bad optimization with lots of performance issues in some computers
The PS4 version is just copy-paste of the “HD textures option” from PC Ultimate HD. Only a few extra character textures were improved for PS4/Xone.
Also some enemies behavior issues if I’m not mistaken. But I’m not sure in which port…
Still aside of resolution the GC/Wii and UHD with HD Project are the best versions. It has the best color palette and lightning and have bloom to the fire effects.
Resident Evil 4 HD Project removes terrible looking PS2 version assets.
https://www.re4hd.com/?p=5281
>WEAPONS and other item MODELS: The models used for all post-Gamecube versions have less polygons than the original Gamecube version. It seems they kept (perhaps by accident?) the low-poly versions from the PS2 port of the game. I restored and even improved all of these models. There is a limitation with these models that crashes the game if the file size of certain files are larger than the original, but I found that there is some dispensable data that can be removed from the .bin files (the 3D models), and even entire .bin files that are unused in-game
This is why you don'r remaster gen 6 games. Specially if it was on PS2 at some point
well part of that was because the ps2's architecture was as fricked-up and nightmarish to develop for as the ps3's, the vaunted "emotion engine" was basically pasted together with a toilet paper roll and vomit
>well part of that was because the ps2's architecture was as fricked-up
No, that was the result of PS2's particle effects. Something that was very important to Sony and its system. The cell was a complete frick up
the best way to play re4 to this day remains the wii version
and now you can play the remake instead of either of those shitty versions
no you still just play the wii edition, re4 didn't need a remake
>super mario sunshine
>smash bros melee
>luigis mansion
>metroid
>god zilla monster battle (w/e it was called)
the game sphere was dope b***h
oh shit I almost forgot
>billy hatcher
>veautiful joe
>go go hypergrind
Okama Gamesphere
Its best game was Thirst For Blood.
>>god zilla monster battle (w/e it was called)
It was called Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee, and it was great and terrible and also on Xbox.
It has a lot of good games, that's basically it
>but why did it flop at release then????????????
No DVD playback, the zeitgeist was MATURE GAMES FOR MATURE GAMERS and it had relatively limited multiplatform support. You didn't get games like Grand Theft Auto or Star Wars Battlefront on the Gamecube.
because surface level babies love their nintendies so much and for so long they need to buy 20 year old consoles they were always a fan of and had so many precious memories with for the first time and experience the games they love so much and for so long for over 20 years for the first time
or stick them on a shelf and say dude wind waker
or make some shitty youtube video essay where they hold it up and emulate all gameplay footage
or homosexual ass smash
What does flop even mean at this point?
Sells bad: flop
Sells good, but less than the other: flop
I didn't like it: flop
I didn't have it: flop
Zoomers grew up watching nintendie youtubers who cope saying the GNC was unfairly treated, so they spread the myth foward it's actually an awesome system and not a piece of shit that failed for every reason it should've
>kiddy design in an era edgy mature games were hip and cool
>the shitty crippled size minidisk media
>bad lineup of important releases overtime especially after launch
>Nintendo's persistence on the fricking link cable when competition banked on online functionality
the people who grew up with it are now old enough to have nostalgia for it. It's a fine console, but it's definitely not perfect.
>It was a flop on release.
It's beloved on Ganker now BECAUSE it was a flop on released. Contrarianism is a thing.
You don't know what "flop" means.
Same reason Dreamcast is still liked: good games
Rare didn't save this console's ass when Nintendo needed it the most
>Nintendo is more popular than ever
>Nintendo is more collectable than ever
>It's not 20+ years old so in the prime time for the nostalgia boom
>low sales so low supply for the demand
>PS2 was so dominant many people missed out and now want to try it out
It's going to happen to the WiiU in 15 years so stock up, bruhs.
>It's going to happen to the WiiU in 15 years so stock up, bruhs.
shouldn't have taken that fricking long to begin with, best gen8 console and gamers murdered it because they were too busy jerking off their "hardcore true gamer" microdicks
>Why is the GameCube so beloved now?
it isn't
it was always for those weird kids
those weird kids are still the only ones that love it
the thing is everyone else has continued to play new things while they're still obsessive with that weird gamecube kid energy
>t. aforementioned basic-b***h wigger
oh look here's the weird gamecube kid
people that grew up with nintendo moved on to pc after 64
you?
well, you're you
congratulations? hopefully you're happy with that
I'd say the games were loved, the console itself nobody ever gave a frick about. Kind of crazy that back then, in the era of ps3 and Xbox 360, Nintendo went with the Wii and basically sucked ass until the switch came out.
It's insane to think how successful the switch really is
It's my favorite console appearance wise, I feel like it's got a really slick look ahead of it's time, the console itself is very flawed though
>It's my favorite console appearance wise
crazy
one of the best 1v1v1v1 game of all time is stuck on it
where the frick is city trial 2 sakurai
>wasn't that smash r--
and where the frick is SMASH RUN 2 sakurai
It didn't have a dvd player or gta then, now gta is on everything but cube games are still only on the cube, look better than everything else that gen thanks to the way the console did shaders, runs better than the other two as well,
you are now informed zoom zoom