Why is the Vanilla WoW still the best MMO ever made?
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Why is the Vanilla WoW still the best MMO ever made?
Why is the Vanilla WoW still the best MMO ever made?
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because it's the most mmo ever made
Took all of the good parts of Everquest and made them better and eased up on the bad parts.
No one even tried. Mmo takes time and sacrifices
It isn't, FFXI is
My friend bought me a month of time so I could try classic. The 20-50 levelling experience is fantastic. I really liked it. But once I pushed past 55 ish my enthusiasm dropped like a lead balloon.
>But once I pushed past 55 ish my enthusiasm dropped like a lead balloon.
why anon? never played much of classic myself but thinking of playing again
Zones become pretty barren.
In the lower zones, you often have multiple quests in a specific area that make it pretty efficient to quest, or a questchain that takes you around nearby zones, which break the mold without being too tedious.
In the higher level zones, quests become pretty sparse.
When you for example arrive in Sentinel Hill in Westfall or Tarren Mill, you have some agency with which quests you want to start while also trying to be efficient to minimize travelling.
Compare that to arriving in Everlook in Winterspring or Chapel of Holy Light in Eastern Plaguelands, there's barely any quests, the few that quests then also often have no follow up or are elite quests.
Also, getting around each high level zone is a huge pain.
Want to swap from Winterspring to Eastern Plaguelands? That's like a 20min trip.
Which combined with the lack of quests feel very unrewarding, you travel to a zone, only do a bunch of quests and then have to move on.
When you travel to more distant lower level zones, you either
>have an important quest (Water Totem, any Warrior quest rewarding an OP item, etc..)
>stay there for awhile to quest there
The general issue is just, you have to travel *a lot* for very few quests, whereas in the lower level it has a much smoother flow to it.
Classic isnt vanilla. Pservers are not vanilla. Wow died in 2007
I know this feel. I quit at level 50. It just became boring and more of a chore. All the instances are boring as frick and the areas to level are all all bland and dark. Winterspring seemed okay but I never got there.
It needs more lush green areas like STV and southshore.
Manchildren living in their escapism & rose tinted nostalgia memories of their childhood.
Because it was a world designed for exploring.
It didnt hold your hand too much, pvp was almost unrestricted and random and unbalanced in the world often 5v2 like in real life, or huge hordes.
It mainly was about the world, not instances.
Dying was punishing with respawn points far apart, but not unforgiving like losing much.
Eventually they realized the sense of accomplishment and character progression was what kept people addicted and the focus was never again on creating a real living world.
Most of the team that developed it also would leave the company or be drowned out by the huge number of new hires to manage the cash cow shortly after launch.
>It didnt hold your hand too much
What are you smoking? Everyone shat on WoW because it was the kiddie cartoony game that held your hands like crazy. You could put a 8 year old in front of the computer and he would be able to play the game with no issues (there's a reason most of the playerbase was small children)
nonsense.
>but muh shitty eq was so much harder!!!!1
argument ended.
>nonsense
Anyone that was alive, over the age of 12 and into computer games can tell you that.
Let me guess....you played Vanilla WoW as a kid or young adult and the WoW South Park episode was the funniest shit to you?
For existing mmo nerds sure, but for mainstream appeal it was challenging. Barely restricted pvp. You had to pull and finish mobs and accidently chaining multiple and being killed was easy. 5 min corpse walks if you made a mistake or got ganked, and sometimes so many mobs respawned on your body the only way out is to respawn and die again and corpse walk another several minutes.
It was not hand holding in the sense of most mainstream games.
Remakes have had its charms removed, the world pozzed, lots of new nearby respawn points which removes any world pvp strategy, etc
It was great but shows its age. The gameplay favors stats over strategy or quickness, though less than later wow.
People now also know how to minmax everything, so players are more powerful than in real vanilla.
The world was designed more for exploration and not everything was for a specific purpose. But graphics are dated so the same exploration of now blocky places wont be fun.
The new woke blizzard has also gone through and removed a lot of the charm and hidden easter eggs even from classic. From flirty things, various characters, and many others that added some of its charm.
>But graphics are dated so the same exploration of now blocky places wont be fun
Are you serious? The game's world still feels immersive despite it's objectively dated graphics because Blizzard had the good sense to go for a stylised look rather than something more realistic back then. It's not like fricking Atari where the graphics are so bad that you have to rely more on your imagination; Dustwallow Marsh is clearly a swamp, The Barrens is clearly a savanna, Un'Goro Crater is clearly a prehistoric jungle, etc.
but there's several better ones
go on then, list them
Wotlk was the peak
>vanilla wow in 2004
>people playing the game
>classic wow in 2019
>people speedrunning the game
if you played it at launch (or rather, tried to because the servers were down more than up) then you'd see all the cut corners all over the place. It just wasn't a good product.
Because you have to explore the world and get good at it, instead of having to kill the spiky bad guy who will blow up the planet this week.
Actual socialisation
Lineage 2 was objectively better.
I honestly enjoyed this game. It was fun griefing chinese farmers
what's a good wotlk private server?
>wotlk
just play retail mate its the exact same game
no
i tried registering to warmane, but i keep getting an invalid request error
maybe i'm not destined to play wow
Reminder that anyone over the age of 12 that liked MMORPG's HATED WoW when it came out. It was the MMORPG that removed the RPG from MMORPG and forever ruined any MMORPG.
But because most of Ganker were now kids or young teenagers when WoW came out and fell for the normalgay marketing they now see WoW as something good, it's the equivalent of thinking Halo was the pinnacle of FPS
Because it has soul and its genuinely fun. Effort was put into making it. Actual fricking effort that doesent exists these days.
>Project Ascension trying to bring in TBC era shit but still keep it Vanilla
>Turtle makes more dungeons and lore than actual retail
>People still play Retail because scalies, and muh brave and strong storywriters
Nostalrius fricking killed vanilla pservers
it was just an honest and sensible well made game, until the honor system got introduced