Why is there no good Digimon game?
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Why is there no good Digimon game?
Why is there no good Digimon game?
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There's one but it requires a mindset to get into it. Also if you count these as games they're nice.
> Be me
> Nostagically buy one of these things
> Quickly realize they were from a time period before phone notifications were annoying as frick
> Now have virtual pet notifications
Honestly, they are good especially if you have friends to play with. For me they belong firmly in the nostalgia category.
You meant to say grindset*
Had one of these as a kid in the 90's, before the Digimon cartoon even aired. Talked my friend down the street into getting one and we would battle each other, good memories.
is there a sim for these for pc?
There's a couple fangames like DMPC and you could emulate Digital Monster version wonderswan (pic related)
I reckon there's potential for a Digimon Virtual Pet app for smartphones
There is but Bamco is probably afraid it'll cut into the sales of the actual keychain pets
I don't know. Real v-pets just feel better compared to the couple of pet sim apps I dabbled in.
I dunno... a series called Digital Monsters on a smart phone...? It cannot be done.
I shall call the Bandai heads and let them know.
What about a virtual pet app but it's Indonesia only
In Re:Digitize, V-Pet and Digimon are literally smartphone app
>no good
stale bait
>no dmw3
>no dawn/dusk or world
you are the bait, anon kun.
To answer without hyperboles, Dawn and Dusk are very hit or miss. As JRPGs themselves they fall victim of wonky map design, grindy playstyle, and they're overall very tedious if you're not very big into the franchise as is.
Just play it with cheat on
Multiply EXP/money and turn off random encounter, now the game is gud
If you need to cheat to enable fun then the game isn't fun.
Just like Skyrim where nobody play the vanilla version? Using mod is no different from cheating
but do you REALLY want to recommend that experience to someone who is looking at a starter guide for the games?
Imagine if someone told you that
>Hey I recommend you this game
>BTW keep cheat engine on at all times because the game is insufferable otherwise
Like just hold the L and let the newbie arrive at Dusk/Dawn on their own if they're so inclined.
I would definitely recommend Cyber Sleuth because at the very least the plot is good enough and the gameplay is sufficiently digestible so that none of the flaws really drive away from your ability to play it too much. At the end of the day you can still just pass it off as a diet MegaTen.
Like, you can play the crab in a bucket game and shit on all games in a shallow attempt to play up your personal favorite game, but all you'd really do is drive people away from the franchise which I doubt is your goal.
There is enough digifans to fed entire threads in here, and that's not just simply the ones who want to frick them. Anyway, I won't bup this shitty thread.
>Cyber bawd
>the plot is good
Dude, are we playing the same game?
It has interesting moments, it has funny bits. It's enjoyable all around for a licensed game.
I give you that it's certainly not the type of story you'd expect coming from the anime, but it's nowhere close to being a "bad" story in full and let alone being one so terrible that it makes you want to stop playing the game.
NTA but I was hoping for KR W but Diggyman. You know, something where being a detective('s assistant) mattered and you solved cyber crimes. Not something where both parts of being a digimon detective are phoned in.
Like I said, it's not what you'd expect. But hey it's more Soul Hackers 2 than fricking Soul Hackers 2 so I enjoy for it that.
You're never gonna like anything if you enter games expecting something specific and feeling down when the game isn't that. Try to appreciate things for what they are, you'll have a better time playing vidya
I can't because I think all the characters are uninteresting and in general what happens is also boring. And I'm not going to let the fact that digimon feel slapped on in a Digimon game go. I don't give a shit about these teenagers, so if you are going to shaft the more visually interesting models at least make the ones I'm being shown have dialogue that's entertaining to read. I don't give a shit about some food blog why is there a part where you walk to a restaurant and read this food is good 4 times? There's not even a joke. Frick you.
yeah but notice how at this point it's
>"I think" all the characters are uninteresting and in general what happens is also boring
>"I don't give a shit" about these teenagers
>"I don't give a shit" about some food blog
For the most part, all of your complaints are entirely (you) problems of the story not cartering to your specific tastes.
I will give you
> I'm not going to let the fact that digimon feel slapped on in a Digimon game go
However, I also believe it's a huge overstatement. Almost everything about the sidequest is about digimon and how they interact with humans, specially as the story progresses and as the digimon bleed harder into the real world. And if you mean to tell me people and digimon interacting isn't "digimon" then I don't know what to tell you. Like, the Adventure 1 didn't fall appart when Tai briefly returned to the real world and the whole episode was about his relationship with his sister, I don't see why the game falls apart when your characters get to interact too for a brief sidequest.
And besides I don't know what in the world were you expecting if you find this shit boring
>For the most part, all of your complaints are entirely (you) problems of the story not catering to your specific tastes
Yeah, you can tell the game was made for persona fans and I think that demographic is full of people with bad taste.
>Adventure 1 didn't fall apart when Tai briefly returned to the real world and the whole episode was about his relationship with his sister
Here's the difference: in that episode, Koromon still talked, you saw some digimon on the TV in the real world, and there was that fight with ogremon. It maintained a balance of human drama and cool dinosaurs. In CS there are several chunks of the game where it's all humans and no digimon talks or gets into any shenanigans. And nothing in those parts made up for that.
>I don't know what in the world were you expecting if you find this shit boring
The lack of sound effects. It comes off weird. Also, I'm pretty sure some of those specs falling from the portal are digimon and it disappoints me that you don't see a digimon land on some pavement or a building and freak out. You can make the argument confusion and slight disappointment aren't boring though.
digimon is for autists, everybody has agreed there is no good digimon game, in comparison to other better rpgs and games out there. Digimon games are good if you have autism and like grindy shit. That's all there is to it.
having recently played through dusk for the first time, it's a jrpg and it feels like dragon quest, but with monster raising mechanics. YT's shitting, pissing, and cumming themselves about the labyrinthine maps are missing the point, as...big surprise, it's a fricking jrpg...it forces you to level up so you dont get your shit slapped in the next map. However I didn't have any trouble with the main game except rushing ahead too early once. I haven't even done any of the post game stuff but it feels like the main game is more or less a tutorial for the post game content
As someone who recently got into DQ because DQM I wouldn't really compare them with DS Dusk. Mostly because fighting in DQ is fun and has a finese. Something is missing from the Story games that makes them not fun but can't really say what it is.
as a digimaster I will rate your gay bait image
>monster raising
DW1 is great, Decode and Next Order are mid at best, and the monster raising -> die -> repeat loop isn't for everyone.
>anime
completely true, Digimon 02 is dog shit, Xros Wars and Hunters should be a crime, but I don't think Frontier is bad enough to be completely excluded. I'd suggest at least trying it out, the Legendary Warriors are some of the coolest designs in the series and there were a lot of strong character moments provided your name is Takuya, Koji, Koichi and occasionally Tommy
>Story Focused RPG
Cyber Sleuth is fun, no doubt, but it's a repackaged vita game and you can tell, Hackers Memory was a clear upgrade and a lot of fun. I'd also suggest Digimon Dusk/Dawn. They're in the same category as Cyber Sleuth, albeit a nicer shorter experience.
>Survive
Survive was dogshit and will only serve to piss you off
>Adventure PSP
this game is so fricking good
>Digimon TCG PS1
you're smoking crack, the card game make no fricking sense and is not fun
>Digimon TCG 2020
This is one of the best card games ever made
>Appmon
get this image off my internet NOW
>Survive was dogshit and will only serve to piss you off
Why is survive so hated?
>Why is survive so hated?
do you legitimately want the reasons, or?
Yes. The only thing I know about this game is that some homosexual was abusing lopmon.
I mean, shit, let's go through the list
1) we were promised a VN + SRPG, and were given a VN with SRPG mini game
2) Story was fricking moronic, which, is pretty important in a visual novel
2a) The main character was aggressively Japanese, which is to say he has zero back bone and is a terrible self insert, which makes for an absolute brain dead "leader". The story happens around him as opposed to having an active role in the story. He basically stands in the background as his team decides what THEY'RE doing and most input you have is saying Yes or No, which doesn't even matter in the end because, like I said, you can't put your foot down enough to actually say Yes or No. Guy wants to save his sister, and your options are "Yes, slightly less yes, passive aggressive yes". I am the fricking goggle kid, I should tell him to frick off. Which leads to..
3) the fricking morality system. It has a SMT styled morality system, where choices you make influence story, can cause the falling of grace/deaths of party members and influence the evolution route of your partner Agumon. Sounds bad ass, right? Wrong! Because almost to literally none of your choices match the morality you're going for. The three choices are Moral, Wrathful, Harmony. Now, if done correctly, choosing these should lead to different party members being prevalent/alive and effect how the world around you reacts. with you either going on a war path, trying to moralgay your way through every situation, or just trying to be the glue holding together your band of children, since you're stuck in the digital world fighting Dark Masters and an evil god who kidnaps and isekai's you to act as a sacrifice. But NOPE! Literally all it does is give points towards your digimon turning into different forms (I don't even think there's any special dialogue or situations for unlocking these digivolutions, literal only difference is which digimon it is) and which of your party members goes crazy at the end of the game.
Holy shit! I'm really impressed by how moronic japs can be sometimes. Now I've completely lost interest in this dog shit. Thanks.
>Story was fricking moronic
I didn't thought it was "moronic" as much as the it simply felt disjointed due it trying too hard to include the game part.
>which is to say he has zero back bone and is a terrible self insert, which makes for an absolute brain dead "leader"
did we play the same game? Takumi for starters wasn't a self insert he was a defined character. He was the only one with an actual backbone which is why he ended up being the effective leader. He never really backed out of anything, he never whined.
It's true he's aggressively Japanese in that he comes across as flat, but that's also because Japanese people see that as a quality in a leader. Hell his ability to remain calm when everyone else is a mess is pointed out multiple times as a stark contrast to Shuuji.
>Literally all it does is give points towards your digimon turning into different forms
this is LITERALLY what the morality system says it does. They also affect the endings you can get, which also affects which characters live and die. The game also SHOWS you that the factor deciding character's deaths is the friendship on your first playthrough. I think the effects of morality is fine, it's not unusual for VNs to have a long common route that only splits at the end. Hell SMT is like that, like no matter how much of a dick you're in Strange Journey only the dialogue to Gore near the end affects your route.
My personal gripe with the morality choices is that you always get 3 choices, they're all ordered in the same way and they always glow of their respective colors. Which means you no longer answer honestly and get an Agumon based on your personal decisions, instead you choose your answers based on how you want Agumon to evolve.
>it simply felt disjointed due it trying too hard to include the game part
For all the talking they do, it was never enough to make any of the moronic shit make sense. There was almost no point past the first hour in which I was actually engaged in their absolute nonsense of a story. It didn't help that it's idea of dark and mature themes is shit a 12 year old would find edgy, whereas exploring the themes organically through them trying to survive would work a lot better than moronic shit like Shuuji going bonkers and just repeated scenes of him beating the dog shit out of Lopmon (which everyone saw and no one did anything about). Ironically enough the coolest shit story wise was the little text crawl after the game was over talking about what happens next. Hearing about Takumi leading a band of rebels and their digimon partners to overthrow a corrupt system that oppresses digimon. That sounds like it could be cool as shit.
>did we play the same game? Takumi for starters wasn't a self insert he was a defined character.
Yeah, such defining traits such as
>staying calm under bad circumstances
and uh..
well h-he, uh, he has an agumon and like he fights and uh
Joking aside, his character was extraordinarily bland, which is pretty normal in these situations since the morality path is supposed to let you fill it out. To hearken back to the SMT comparison, Abel from Devil Survivor is bland from the jump because he can go many different ways, from moralgay supreme or a genocidal despot. It's a proper morality system but all I get from Takumi is the most blank slate shit ever like "good under pressure" and the most milquetoast responses that can somehow be labeled wrathful.
I don't get what you mean by "nonsense". Like, I get that you feel frustated by the plot being poorly paced at the beginning, but everything quite made sense within the rules of the story.
>whereas exploring the themes organically through them trying to survive
What exactly do you have in mind that's different from how they handled it. Consider that right away they got lost and found beasts that were ready and willing to kill them, Shuuji going apeshit isn't exactly out of place. Are you expecting them to behave like adults when they're kids?
>and uh.. well h-he, uh, he has an agumon and like he fights and uh
So you read all of it and you didn't catch ANYTHING? You didn't catch how he can diffuse tension in the group and how he's good at getting other people to open up to him? Like, are you even reading the visual novel?
>Abel from Devil Survivor
my brother in christ, the MC from tbh doesn't speak a single word or holds a conversation, how are you comparing them? This is genuinely a nonsensical argument.
If you'd rather a silent protagonist just say so, just say so.
>He's a glorified yes-man who just does whatever the group
What? It's the other way around. Minoru tells Shuuji fricking point blank in his face to shut up because they're doing what Takumi instucts.
What Takumi does is listen to everyone in the group, gathers as much info and listen to the group's thoughts. Then he makes a decision based on everyone's interest. You know who tries to be a """decision maker"""? Shuuji and he fricks up every single time.
What you think is a "glorified yes man" is called being a good leader of a group dynamic.
My god, there's SO MUCH to complain about survive, and you chose to complain about the actual good parts of the plot.
Because you didn't understand them, no less.
Look, don't bother continuing. I don't think there's anything of value to come out of trying to talk about the story of a game with you of all people.
He's a glorified yes-man who just does whatever the group wants to do instead of being the main decision maker. Only time I remember there being any real tension is Kaido throwing a fit about looking for his sister. In Devil Survivor, you can do whatever you want to the point other characters will frick off and some will die and others will join, because YOU'RE the leader. Granted, it's been awhile since I've played, I don't remember any real choice that gives you the agency as the leader.
>this is LITERALLY what the morality system says it does
And it's shit. Especially since your choices in saying it is barely different, it doesn't effect the circumstances in which Agumon digivolves, it doesn't have an effect on Agumons personality, it just hamfists moronic """""moral""""" choices that are rarely all that different and often not even thematically different in order to decide which digivolution you should get.
>Ending
Yeah I talked about them, it all happened way too fast for the moronic shit that happened and I feel like at the very least it should be connected to your choices throughout the game. Why the frick can I be moral the entire game then get the wrathful ending just because? That's silly. And I know some SMT games do the same thing, but it can be shitty there too. And the endings choice aren't even connected to the event that leads the ending to happen.
>I stay with Agumon
>this leads to a random digimon to stab Saki and she dies, Plutomon incoming
what the frick, that's moronic. Maybe it'd be more compelling if me staying with Agumon was the direct reason she died, but they just throw random shit at you for this. Endings were dog shit.
It seems like they had a really good idea for a game, and had no clue how to do any of it.
Agree with pretty much all of this. I did like NG+ Ryo a lot though. You have to spend a significant amount of time being talking to him and being kind to him to unlock saving him on that run, so it does feel a little bit earned when he immediately starts to show a bit more backbone and be positive. The Lopmon guy just keeps being an ass though and never really gets all that much better. IIRC, you don't have to invest in the relationship with him at all, and he just gets saved automatically if you saved Ryo.
I get why they locked it to NG+, as everyone would have tried to go perfect route the first time by looking stuff up, but I think each route should have felt more "satisfying" in some way. Like if we got to decide to kill off a character for being an butthole, that would have been nice. Or if we got to choose someone to leave behind as a sacrifice. Instead, you just kinda watch stuff happen and it feels very disconnected from your choices in the Moral/Harmony/Wrathful system.
Also the SRPG gameplay is just complete garbage tier. Just a COMPLETE fricking waste. That's the most egregious part to me.
I checked out on the game around the time you return to the digital world. The plot bogged right down and became a slog to get through, I didn't like any of the characters and the actual gameplay was so far in between that I would groan out loud whenever one long boring scene would end only for another to begin. I just wanted it to end already and once it finally did I had no desire to go through it ever again. The only good thing I have to say about the game is that I absolutely love it's main theme song.
This + the translation is terrible. Not just "oh they put dubisms in" but just straight up errors and mistranslations everywhere.
>Oh but they go crazy? That's something, right?
No, they turn almost on a dime within the last like hour of the game span, it's extremely jarring and stupid.
4) the characters fricking suck. This stays true for heroes and villains. Only passable characters in the story was Kaito and his e-girl sister. He was the only one who was even half way compelling and I could at least slightly identify with his whole "frick this gay world, I need to save my sister" mentality, and his sister who was sickly her whole life was tired of being babied by her brother while also feeling deep seated feelings of guilt by being part of the reason her brother can't live his own life because of worrying over her. Their story as it unfolds is one where she needs more freedom to stand by him as an equal and him coming to terms with it. Not an amazing character arc by any means but at least it's SOMETHING. The only other character arc is lesbian nonsense between the b***h with the dog and the b***h with the knock off Palmon. Villains are possibly more gay than even them. The biggest piece of shit, like you said, was definitely the dude with Lopmon. Dude literally kicked the frick out of it and abused it because he was mind broken about being isekai'd and venting frustration because despite being the oldest, he's the least reliable and kept trying to control the situation. If you're thinking there's room for a good character arc there, you'd be right, but it gets done poorly which leads into last major gripe
5) Most of the "cool" content is in NG+. So, dude with Kunemon, from the start of the game until his death, is mind broken huddled on the floor crying and pissing his pants until an evil digimon rips him to shreds. In NG+ you can save him, which leads to him saving the dude who beats the frick out of his Lopmon (it digivolves into Wendigomon and vores him) and this leads to a chain reaction where they fight the evil god of the digital world and it does not feel earned
And with these two guys alive and with a new perspective, with Ryo, the Kunemon guy, just immediately getting over his immense fear and Lopmon abusing guy just saying "hehe ah man I was tripping 🙂 I'm better now" they literally could not frick this up more.
the "homosexual" that abused Lopmon was one of the two only interesting characters in the game. they tried selling this game as some mature/dark story with a terrorizing setting, but only two characters feel like they understand what is on the line.
It's a game about correcting a bunch of spoiled, misbehaving brats.
Is there a Digimon game where I can play as a non-blank slate or an established character? Also with only 1 partner.
Closest are the anime games: Adventure PSP and Data Squad for PS2.
Thank you very much, anons. On a different topic, has anyone mentioned Rumble Arena yet? I had a blast playing it on the ps2.
Digimon Adventure PSP
You are Tai, you get Agumon, you play through the events of Adventure 1. You're not a blank slate and your partner is Agumon.
There's also Digimon Re:Digitize Decode, where you have a decently fleshed out MC and a partner.
Past that, I'd suggest maybe Digimon World DS since your character has a decent amount of agency in that game, but it's a more traditional monster collector and you get 6 homies.
If you're really harping on the 1 partner only then Digimon World 1 is pretty good, but you're definitely blank slate as frick.
If you're hooked on the real partner stuff, Digimon World 3 lets you get 3 guys but the whole gimmick is they all combine to digivolve into 1 strong digimon so that might be closer.
TCG 2020
>This is one of the best card games ever made
my homie
it's breaks my mind how they haven't made an online client yet
I can only assume this is what they're doing with liberators
>no mention of the best digimon game
Look at that gay couple on the screen. I ain't playing that.
>The story focused RPGs have the worst story
kek
well, only cybersleuth, the digimon survive story is alright, and digimon adventure is...digimon aventure.
Hacker's Memory is good but it requires slogging through Cyber Sleuth first and that game's writing is carried by Nokia
>and that game's writing is carried by Nokia
It is. Her voice actor is Megumi Han which explains everything.
Wow, all bad characters. Such unlucky woman.
she played a Green Power Ranger/Super Sentai character in live action?
Digimon had a card game? I didn't know that
I tried to play Digimon World but I got filtered after like 20 minutes
what was it, the pooping? the lack of food? the enemy encounters? the lifespan? the slots?
I don't remember lol
https://cdromance.com/psx-iso/digimon-world-maeson-hack/
Here's an easy mode hack if ya want to give it another go but are a coward.
Nah those games are shit.
ok baiter
closing thread
seeya dummy
>https://cdromance.com/psx-iso/digimon-world-maeson-hack/
>This site doesn't host any files.
Thanks for nothing,
holy shit they killed the site. what is it there for now? useless
This is news to me. I will link you a patched bin and cue when it's done uploading.
Yeah, that game is shit too.
Bad writing in a vn people thought would be an srpg.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ghxx6zsdopdy6tt/maeson.rar/file
It's done. I also threw in the normal DW1 and the patches so you can play with all the add on patches.
Thanks for the upload.
You homosexuals killed the site because you keep linking it here
>troonyson hacks
it's gonna be shit, don't even try it
World 1 has awful skill obtainment in-game. That hack helps you along.
Also World 1 is broken in certain places.
I love wargreymon.
Apparently, the next story will be right up my alley.
Because it's a shitty pokemon clone. PLay Palworld.
It attracts pokemon fans who then realize it doesn't play like pokemon at all
If Palworld had an evolution mechanic for the Pals giving them the guns you can craft it would come pretty damn close.
There are 17 good Digimon games.
>everyone loves digimon
>digimon threads are just established fans arguing about game genres
I want a Digimon action RPG. Trying to make Digimon a classic turn-based usually doesn't work well. The Cyber bawds system was the best they had it, but at this point it feels derivative. The strength of Digimon is in their wacky designs and lore, so a game where you actually frick things up as different Digimon sounds cool. The RPG element could allow you to control your digivolution paths, which open up new moves for your mons. Have a set of playable mons that are essentially classes. Then you can cross classes to create fun combos, like say you go from Andromon into MegaGargomon, and you acquire a rapid fire skill from Andromon, and a bomb skill from Gargomon, so you can frick shit up with rapid bombs. Enemies could also do this too, so you have to be on your toes to watch out for new combos.
What do you call Next Order?
I didn't play it. Can I run around as WarGreymon and bash people's skulls in with button presses?
Nah you still play as a trainer. It isn't turn based tho.
>Monster game action RPG
It just doesn't work. There's a reason DMC5 has only 3 characters to control and 20 unique enemies.
>I want a Digimon action RPG
here's your Digimon aciton RPG, bro.
your classes are slash, bash, stab, blunt, crush and shot
your combo is power down + attack
have fun
>Digimon with katanas
This reeks of 2004.
January 05, actually
>rented the game because I thought it was gonna be like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
>its wasn't
Weekend wasted.
This game somehow felt like a bigger waste of time than Digimon World 2 which is a fricking feat. It felt like a massive blurry slog and I don’t think I even unlocked digivolutions beyond Weregarurumon and I was well into NG+
>those one minute long loading times on the PS2 WHENEVER YOU ENTERED A NEW AREA INCLUDING THE ONES IN YOUR OWN BASE
>game randomly deciding to let my friend level up and gain exp after like six hours of us playing together
>evolutions are locked behind ridiculously unbalanced dungeons and there's entire NINE of them
This has got to be the worst game i ever played in my life.
There is and it has my wife Nokia Shiramine
Really trying to get into the DS games but it's rough, especially on the back of Pokemon Emerald and Platinum.
Dusk & Dawn don't feel good to play or explore the world in, not like World 3. You can appreciate stuff like the Digifarm, but that's about it.
I always thought the lanes felt underutilized in those games. Do they ever add ways to frick with them like hazards or walls in the end game way too late or in one of the jap only games?
There's one more untranslated Xros Wars DS game. Maybe that one fixes everything and laid the foundation for Cyber Sleuth to run with.
Do we know if the game is getting translated? It's from the same team that done Decode and Lost Evolution, right? It would be weird if they left out this one last game that worth playing
There's also Appmon game on 3DS but that one I never try it
>There's also Appmon game on 3DS
Appmon's a little weird. It's not a terrible game but there's no "Digimon-like" mechanics to hook into.
The battle system is strange, a lot of menu management and chips and weaknesses. It's not great.
>It's from the same team that done Decode and Lost Evolution, right?
I think they either explicitly said they aren't doing Xros Wars Red/Blue or that it's such a low priority that you shouldn't expect it for awhile, add that in with it taking I think over 10 years for Lost Evolution, I wouldn't count on it. You could learn moon and play it normally before they'd make any headway
That's a shame but I can't blame them. It's already a miracle that these projects get completed at all. I appreciate their efforts even if they can't translate every game in the series
>the lanes felt underutilized
Was a good chance to copy Battle Network.
I feel like as a series too, Battle Network capitalized on the Digimon-esque concepts that Data Squad missed out on by appealing to older fans, what with hacking into everything, exploring a digital space.
I'm surprised CS didn't really do that either. I mean you could essentially jack into stuff but you only "debugged" stuff in side Quests and couldn't just jump into stuff whenever it had to be during a quest for no reason.
Try Lost Evolution, it's pretty much fix everything wrong with Dusk/Dawn but also add new bullshit mechanic like the Plate system. If you can get over that, then it's good
Men 🙂
Feet too big to handle
They should crush me with their giant feet lol
Same haha
Both of you need to be put through the moron squisher
Gay Furries love it when you give them that sort of attention because of their own self loathing.
Report and Ignore.
Excuse me but I want them to go in the moron squisher because it would fix them.
Genuinely believe World 1 is 3x3 material. How they made that game or who made it, I don't know.
The only good one was the first one. The newer one, you can just feel it was made for a different era. It feels very generic.
Palworld is everything a digimon game should be, just hope someone makes a digimon version
Kys palgay
I like palworld but nah.
The game is incomplete as hell, and the parts that are there, the base building, the pal capturing and breeding, the automation, the combat, are all things I don't think I'd want on a digimon game.
Not that it couldn't work, it's not lie digimon games have that strong of an identity, but my ideal digimon game would be something based on digimon world 1 with all the best parts of the subsequent games.
Palworld is just an alpha Legends Arceus.
Digimons core is narrative. Palworld has none of that.
And pet sim gameplay. It kinda goes back and forth between them but digimon will always poop even if it isn't a mechanic.
But again the tamagotchi gameplay is always up in the air with Digimon.
It's very hard to have an "RPG/Adventure" mixed in with tamagotchi elements because the progression is so difficult.
This is even a problem in the Digivice toys themselves, between the virtual pets and the pedometer toys.
The pedometer toys don't have tamagotchi elements because it's too hard to build an adventure around them with the constant resetting. Typically a game's progression is linear, especially with stats in the mix.
Next Order doesn't know how to rectify this problem. You get to a mandatory story boss battle like Machinedramon, you lose, then the games says get to this level.
And if you die trying to reach that level or surpass it, that's another 3 hours of grinding to get the monsters back to Ultimate.
But the version Xes and all other modern v-pets have a quest/arena campaign and that's just dandy. Even then I think the issue can be solved just by providing more low-level stuff to do for when you're raising a new mon, or adding something easily repeatable so it isn't an issue. Like some randomized dungeons/gauntlets that scale to your mons stage.
The X series pets has levels you retry when you're back to lower forms.
This is the gameplay element that's missing from a linear console game, and what Digimon World needs to achieve.
If you can have a large world that has multiple avenues and things to progress due to your Digimon's stage, then the World series is saved.
That's what I've been saying for years, and it's something World 1 did better than the sequels. Most the game was beatable by champion level Digimon and you didn't need to grind to max level after a death. There were multiple areas in the game that had parallel difficulty. However in Next Order it was extremely linear. Part of the issue to me is level distribution. There's double the amount of Champions in DW1 than Ultimates, so of course most the game is balanced around champions. Meanwhile in Next Order, most Digimon are Mega level. That means most bosses will require you to grind all the way back up in order to make progress again.
The usual counterargument I hear to this is just "do exploit X to get infinite life!" And yeah, that works for what we have, but it's not good game design. The game design should be focused on making the core gameplay loop enjoyable, it shouldn't be focused on removing as much of the gameplay loop as possible (infinite life, Megas no longer doing half the vpet mechanics, etc).
The focus from a developer perspective should be to make it so the player makes progress upon starting a new lifecycle rather than losing progress. Unlock new areas for your lower stages. Have areas that you can only do with a lower stage. Maybe have it so you can retire a mon to your village before it dies, to have it permanently become an NPC that helps around the city. That way you gain something when your next lifecycle starts instead of losing everything. Maybe have it so the Digimon you retire to the city end up building infastructure/bridges which lead to new low level areas. There's a lot of things they could do, really.
Re:Digitize sort of solved this issue by allowing you to register your Digimon. You can bring them back to fight whenever you want without worrying about lifespan, feeding, or pooping. On the downside, you can no longer train or interact with them because they just serve as backup data for multiplayer and extra content. It would be perfect if the game ley you bring them outside of the Coliseum and fight in story quests, but I guess that would defeat the whole purpose of the pet sim mechanic
Because bamco refuse to sit down and refine their games. They always change them radically.
Digimon World 2 already exists thoughever
If it's so good then play through it right now.
I played through it a few months ago, but rest assured I do plan to play through it again because it is my favorite digimon game.
You're a sick man.
I don't blame the guy.
Digimon World 2 is pretty replayable (as long as fast forward is being used at least), due to the randomness from the dungeon crawling and Digimon fusing. Well, some people look up guides to get specific Digimon they want, but I think that takes the fun out of it. I find it really enjoyable getting digivolutions blind.
DMW2 is especially a great replay when trying out the Alternative mod.
>Digimon World 2 is pretty replayable (as long as fast forward is being used
You didn't beat it.
Emphasis on the replay part. I did beat it as a kid on my PS1 then again on my PSP without that function. Sometimes I forget just how much free time I had as a kid, especially when thinking about those summer breaks.
After playing Palworld for a bit, it made me realize a game with some of those mechanics could work really well for Digimon. Inb4
>Survival crafting
Bear with me on this. A game in which you're transported to a new, unused digital world. Maybe the story would be something like "somebody made software for 'putting' a digital world on your modern enthusiast PC, since computers have finally gotten strong enough to handle it". So the reason you're building a settlement is because this world's a blank slate, with some mons jumping in from other worlds to populate it. You could then smack some sense into some wandering mons to recruit them for resource gathering and, eventually, stores. Stores would also help smooth out the mid-game, as it becomes less survival, and more city-builder. At certain levels of settlement, like DW1, you'd be confronted by strong mons you could also straighten out and recruit to the settlement. The combat would effectively be like a more real-time DW1, where the mons attack, and you support in the background.
Although just that would work out decently in my mind, it also made me start ruminating on other ideas for such a game to smooth it out even more.
>Enemies drop type-specific items. You can craft some number of them into an item to evolve your digimon. Thus you don't have to worry about specific stats or conditions for evolution, which made many of the Digimon game entries somewhat tedious. There could still maybe be some kind of level requirement, so you'd still have to use your mon for a while (which would also force you to get familiar with their moves and attack styles).
>You could make items that very temporarily evolve your mon one way or the other. This would allow you to either permanently evolve the mon a la DW1, or temporarily like the anime. The player could approach situations however they felt like, rather than settle for a style they dislike.
As soon as you get into crafting or city management/building, you're on the wrong path.
Where Digimon and Pokemon flourish is in exploration. Digimon's problem is that the exploration isn't tied to the monsters, that's the main problem when you have a world like World 1 or 3.
It wouldn't need to have a particularly involved crafting system, honestly. It's definitely not the best fit, but I feel like it'd be a nice evolution to the town system in DW1, but adding a little more, namely putting the town's design and development purely in the player's hands.
>putting the town's design and development purely in the player's hands
But this is the problem. At a glance, Digimon World has a town you're building up, so why not add gameplay elements to it?
The problem is you're not really building a town, you're exploring a world and solving NPC problems, exactly like Dark Souls and Firelink Shrine.
Imagine if Firelink Shrine had Fortnite base building mechanics. It doesn't work.
The city is just a utility. A rest point. It's not the focus of the games.
That's definitely true with DW1, but I was thinking more along the lines of incorporating qualities of that game into something new, rather than just simply copying it (especially since I feel that DW1 has a lot of good ideas, but plenty of other things that strongly detract from the good and leave the game on a frustrating borderline between tedious and interesting). The boilerplate story I put in my first post, for example, already contradicts it being a case of "you're brought out here to solve this place's crisis". Even then, yeah, I also think it'd be better to not use Ark-style component-level building. The stores would be whole buildings you'd position and queue for building. The Ark style makes it far to difficult to both build, and do so aesthetically. There might be variations of buildings based on material (or the amounts used influencing aesthetic quality), but otherwise they'd be singular objects placed down. As for adding gameplay elements TO the town, I don't see too many interesting ways to go about it that would mesh well with the rest of gameplay. They'd be far too likely to end up as minigames (and I'm really focused on taking specific core mechanics and smoothing/elaborating upon them).
Digimon games can't be good because Digimon itself is a terrible franchise.
It's the opposite. Digimon reaches 10/10 peaks at various points throughout its lifetime that people won't let go of the series until they're bested or re-reached.
Lost Evolution is fun. The plate system is kind of ass but I can deal with it.
Cybersleuth was a good 6 out of 10 maybe even a 7 on a good day.But at the end of the day it felt like a worse megaten game
Cyber Sleuth comes out on top in regards to the monsters and the fusing/evolving.
It just loses out to the substance of SMT and Persona.
The truth with JRPGs is that unless you have an absolute killer battle system (Which no games outside of shit like Battle Network or Resonant Fate have), then the game is mostly riding on visuals, music, art design, everything except gameplay.
I want to FRICK the phone
You're laughing. This Akihabara bawd is spreading STIs and you're laughing.
What on earth were they thinking
The game only stops being a 6 outa 10 and becomes 9 when you get it. And the pansies who work there don't have the brain needed to get it.
I can only assume they saw it as a media-tie-in game and just played for 20 minutes like you would Monsters Inc. on the PS1.
>Expecting game reviewers to understand a game that isn't just cutscenes
c'mon Anon, this isn't 2010, you know better now
Digimon has a few good.
It only has one great game, unfortunately.
explain digimon games to me. People compare it to pokemon but from what I've seen they're hardly anything alike
>explain digimon games to me
They're like Pokemon Colosseum. You know how Colosseum is weird but janky but also has a cool story and animations but battles are really slow?
It's like that.
>People compare it to pokemon but from what I've seen they're hardly anything alike
The people who do that either have only seen Digimon World 3 or know barely anything about Digimon other than some vague basics. I mean have you seen what pokemon they call digimon?
It's hard to explain them in general since they're all different or sometimes redundant. So I'll just explain my favorite it's also the only one worth playing
Digimon World is an adaptation of the virtual pets. fig 1
It works sort of like Pikmin but with a Tamagotchi instead of a plant army. Your goal is to restore order and rebuild File Island's capital File City by getting the scattered Digimon to return to it/move in. When they do they'll upgrade the city, either with a small renovation or something that will help you in your efforts like a shop or more food.
The Tamagotchi elements come from your main means of defense from the feral (jackass) digimon of File Island, your digimon partner. You need to feed, train, deal with its poop, and make it go to bed like in the virtual pets. And depending on how you care for your digimon it will evolve into a variety of others. But it will die of old age eventually and that is the only way to change digimon. This is the most controversial part of the game.
It's a niche game by design. But exploring File Island, finding the nice digimon, and rebuilding the city is so good I implore you to check it out.
This good?
Never played it but I appreciate it for giving warp evolutions to everyone else.
From what I've read it's a mediocre rpg.
>From what I've read
Considering this
is the result of reading I ain't reading ANYTHING ever again.
No just play DQ3 and watch Adventure at the same time for a better experience.
>just play DQ3
It's just a worse Pokemon Blue.
You're thinking of D W 3. D Q 3 is the most classic JRPG that ever JRPGed classically. It may be generic but it's so well put together it isn't an issue. You really should give it a play if only to get a nice frame of reference.
Just tried out the first two World games on DS. The lane system is neat, but the games are just too slow. Text speed is abysmal.
I think you just need to really like the idea of being able to use certain digimon to enjoy the game. I loved being able to finally have dudes like guardromon, zudomon, and wizardmon since they weren't really featured much in the older games I had played. A lot of the newer games since have had the same (and expanded) robust roster so a little bit of that appeal has probably worn off.
The game itself is off. First of all it's isometric, which makes zero sense with a d-pad.
Fair criticism. I've always hated that particular combination.
Yeah they based the DS games on world 3, but world 3 had an analog stick and afforded that sort of movement.
It’s honestly stupid looking back on it.
Next Order and Cyber Sleuth are both pretty good 7-7.5/10 Digimon games (which is unfortunately as high as any Digimon game ever tends to get), but i agree that we're more than overdue a *great* Digimon game. it's not like the series doesn't have virtually limitless potential. being a legacy series that emerged around the same time as Pokémon gives it an aura that series like Yokai Watch and Palworld can't replicate.
I just want another cryptic ass world 1. Doesn't even have to be THAT complex
I just want mons to fricking count for something. In all the last games they're just so fleeting and generic; you can come and go with evolutions as you please and 'grinding' is just numbers and generic skills with any given mon skin
Go finish Decode.
TOO MUCH FRICKING GRINDING
But you want a 45 hour game right? You need to get your money’s worth 🙂
If a game is less than 52 hours it’s a bad game 🙂
>gays talking about big feet
I just want the tiny Ranamon as a dating partner. Is it too much to ask?
>Ranamon
Uhh you must meant Renamon you spelt it wrong
no moron
i want the gay frog
Haha lesbian
>Renamon
No. I never wanted to diddle dogs like an autistic psychopath.
I said Ranamon. I like blueish water girls.
Kiss them to make them feel better.
Is there anything more to the DS games or is it just battles? No puzzles? No exploring?
Yes for both Championship and the JRPGs.
What is there? What’s an example?
No I meant yes as in "Yeah there's only fighting" Now I realize that I said it in a misunderstandable way.
He's so hot.
indeed
I like it when the digimon is just a human woman.
Jumpey fricked this.
He wishes. He even got cucked in the post anime CD dramas.
It’s a very distinct design trope. You immediately recognise as Digimon, jokes aside.
Honestly it's because most of them wear some kind of headcovering.
Nice feet.
this shit was my chldhood
the feet right?
no the spirit bomb. its cool af
yes
Just beat Hackers memory/ Cyberbawdh. Thinking of doing Digimon Re:digitize or next order.
Go for Decode on the 3DS. Next Order is too sloppy. Treat it like a Unity fangame.
>a single footgay samegayging is keeping the thread alive
Mental illness.
>he thinks it's just one guy
>Digimon evolutions are based on information from a past or future moment
>Agumon becomes a war machine from time ago fighting some world ending threat
Still need my Snow Wargreymon, Bamco.
If iceagumon ever gets evolutions, it shouldn't just be more recolors. They should either be more dinosaurlike or wizards like panjayamon X.
>Ultimate-level Greymon species Digimon optimized for arctic exploration. Evolved from SnowAgumon.
>In order to better deal with the sheer cold, it's a bit larger than most Ultimate-level Greymon like WarGreymon, at the expense of being slower. It possesses a fur mantle given to it by its friend Garurumon.
>It carries a large war hammer that doubles as an ice pick
Make it a shine greymon recolour at least. I mean, you get a cool fire and ice thing going there.
Here's your Wargreymon for tonight.
Bamco needs to make a game that's only dragon men. Fully modeled dragon men.
sex. Sex. SEX!!
I hate gays so much holy shit
I just want to bite those nipples
foots
>moments before disaster
>moments before cumming
Post the one where their tamer massages their feet
Convince me that Bionicle, Digimon, Medabots and Megaman Battle Network aren't all the same thing.
Battle Network is good games and the rest have absolutely garbage games. Frick medarot. It's battles are running back and forth over and over like a dipshit.
>Frick medarot. It's battles are running back and forth over and over like a dipshit
Filtered by choosing Rokusho as your starter Pokemon. Now you will never find the greatness that is Medarot 9.
How would you describe your ideal Digimon game?
For me it would be World 1 raising mechanics paired with the battle systems of the DS games.
>How would you describe your ideal Digimon game?
Cyber Sleuth with Atlus' art direction and the combat lanes from the DS titles. There, perfect game. 3 million sales ez.
Digimon World Real 2 (not the dungeon crawler)
We get a new location like the Block Chain Peninsula, a whole load of new and old digimon, minimal story with several ogermon-like "quest" chains at most, your partner is a character that talks but is locked to one egg so if you want to raise a nightmare soldier digimon you need to find the one more significant NS digimon and when you recruit it instead of going to the city they go "You guys helped me big time so I'll help you. It looks like a good excuse to beat people up" then a prompt appears asking if you want to send one of your current digimon to a freezer, because the multiple digimon raising works like Monster Rancher or the modern v-pets where its one at a time but you can freeze your current one to raise something else without needing to wait for the current one to die, you can also jogress digimon together by essentially making one of your mons become a baby early by feeding it to one of your other partners, and your frozen digimon can still call and text you. They'll even roam around the games city. But they're represented with drones like pic-related since their bodies are frozen.
forgot pic
It had 2 (and one other American only) And some of the modern cards have alt arts that look like the old games cards.
You outgrow the good designs before you even get to your first boss.
whoa, that's more exveemon than season 2
Where do you even watch 02 movie subbed? I haven't found any pirate site upload the full move anywhere
They always focus on dumb shit instead of making a good game. Each mon doesn't need 27 different evolutions, and you don't need 7 different activities to grind for leveling up your mon. And you especially don't need to de evolve your mon like 3 times to unlock another evolution path!
>And you especially don't need to de evolve your mon like 3 times to unlock another evolution path!
The grind for evolutions feels good in Cyber Sleuth. Once you get in the grove, it's great.
Digimon Story games are generally just kinda mediocre. There are better JRPGs. The Story games are examples of games that people praise primarily due to the IP associated to them rather than their own merits as standalone games. But when you compare them to JRPGs as a whole, they fall short rather severely.
Anyone who holds this opinion hasn't played many JRPGs.
All the Digimon Story games are just 7.2/10 JRPGs that get along fine. Only Cyber Sleuth breaks into that 7.5/10 range.
No he's right, they're adequate if you're feeling the tamer itch but otherwise they're probably about 4 or 5/10 and I say this as a big fan of Digimon.
They are not 4-5/10 games. Next Order is a 6/10 for reference.
4/10 JRPGs are abysmal, not even Pandora's Tower, Arc Rise Fantasia or the worst Tales game hit that mark.
Digimon World 2 is a 4/10. That's the reference.
Metacritic has really fricked up your standards, hasn't it.
You'd be hard pressed to find legitimate 4/10 JRPGs. Most of them sit in that 7/10 median, most are playable, most are unremarkable.
When people come into these threads and state Cyber Sleuth is a 3/10 game, it's just hyperbole, no different from calling Pokemon Colosseum a 2/10.
>7/10 median
>median
Shitty camera.
Sniffs
Digimon are our husbands
No costumes. Worse, they're locked in a dead PvP mode.
>they're locked in a dead PvP mode
???
!!!
The Greymon line has such great feet.
Dunno. I never played a digimon game
How was the most recent digimon world game?
Bad.
Why?
That would be Digimon Next Order, a game from 2016.
It's the weakest game in the World sub-series with lackluster environments and ridiculous battle tuning.
>ridiculous battle tuning.
Can you elaborate? I was just wondering if I should get it.
I wouldn't recommend it, this is coming from a big World fan.
The whole game feels very "cheap". There's no solid foundation in any elements of the game.
The balance is off, grinding is everywhere, areas feel like Unity Asset Store flips, NPCs are just standing there in the world, traversal is too slow (Switch fixes this), takes a long time to get into a rhythm to raise Digimon, combat and raising balance is ruined by having 2 Digimon.
Soundtrack is great and the characters are cute. That's about it.
What a shame
It's not a bad comfort food game, as in it's playable if you sort of zone out and think "haha this is cute".
But if you're coming on the back of, "Digimon World 1 is a hidden gem and Re:Digitize does everything right", your wallet will be hurting.
Marine Kimeramon and Chaosdramon Millenniumon when?
There is no good Digimon anything, period.
>inb4 coomerposting
>pokemon
>dozens upon dozens of different sizes, styles and body forms
>digimon
>everything ends up being a cyber-dragon man with a hundred guns and belts or an upper-mask-wearing anime bawd
Shit sucks bro
Frick off Palhomosexual. We don't need your moronic falseflagging here.
Be the change you want to see.
Imagine a Palworld-style Digimon game, where you have to survive alone or with friends in the Digiworld, and you gradually uncover more mysteries of the world.
Would probably sell billions.
There are several good Digimon games. People on here are just impossible to please.
There are.
All of them having many glaring flaws, of course, but there's plenty of good digimon games.
>bandai namco
Gee I can't imagine why.