Why is there no hype for Diablo 4? Did blizzard kill the franchise and alienate all the fans with diablo immortal?
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Why is there no hype for Diablo 4? Did blizzard kill the franchise and alienate all the fans with diablo immortal?
I was a big Diablo player since day one and it's just not Diablo. It feels like the people making it don't understand what makes Diablo, the corporate direction isn't Diablo, etc
there are some weird, weird, BAD choices that stand out, like extremely low contrast and the angle of the screen is slightly off so player characters look too tall and large
and then of course having other people in your game, battle pass, all that. the moment they announced battle pass the game basically disappeared from my consciousness. it takes all i have in me sometimes to bother to do 10 minutes of commissions in genshin impact and even then i frequently skip them. im not engaging with more games that play me, effectively.
>the angle of the screen is slightly off so player characters look too tall and large
this, THIS is what makes it feel like a chink mobile game
reminder that d1 and d2 were very different games so your argument is invalid
Anon doesn't even have an argument, dipshit. A preference and/or an opinion isn't an argument. Someone not liking something you like isn't an argument outside of your head.
>reminder that d1 and d2 were very different games
No they weren't. You can directly see the d1 engine underlying the d2 one. Movement, weapon swings, hit effects, is all the very same. What did change was the scope of the game, transitioning into an entire world rather than 1 dungeon, but that's it
Diablo 1 wasn't a real Diablo game
same, I was all onboard with this game at first because of the darker art style, the seeming shift back to slower, more methodical gameplay, everything that reminded me of Diablo 1
And then the public beta showed that that was just a coat of paint over D3
D4 is NOT Diablo. It is D3.5
Frick nuBlizzard, I hope it bombs so they can justify firings or even cause Activision to shut them down.
>And then the public beta showed that that was just a coat of paint over D3
Exactly.
I read people praising the fricking thing like it was a return to a d2 during the paid beta and I actually almost got exited for the free beta but when I finally got to play the thing it just felt like D3.
It makes me wonder if it was all shills or if those people never even played d3 in the first place
I think it's all Diablo 3 fans that never played Diablo 2 but pretend to when asked about it. At least that's the impression I got from lurking the subreddit during the betas.
I saw the diablo ad during the finals of broodwar and at first i thought it was a shitty ad from a monile game lmao
I'll download the stuff for my diablo frens and i'll post it soon
In addition the item system is terrible. It makes all the same mistakes D3 does; skill changes on systems it doesn't belong, stats aren't meaningful, no use for lower rarities ect ect...
>it takes all i have in me sometimes to bother to do 10 minutes of commissions in genshin impact and even then i frequently skip them
I can't stand this shit anymore too.
>the moment they announced battle pass the game basically disappeared from my consciousness
This except it was the moment we first saw gameplay and realized the game had mounts.
fpbp. I played very little diablo 2 and beat diablo 3. I have no attachment or affection for the series and even I can see that this game is trash
Anon you play genshit. You're opinion is worthless.
diablo fanboys are the biggest cry baby victims in gaming. nobody gives a FRICK about your opinions when you're choosing to pretend liek gaming is still in the 90s
>and it's just not Diablo
yeah, it'd diablo 4
>Why is there no hype for Diablo 4?
I’m not a zoomer. I got a new job and people here are taking about it and I realized ive never even heard about the game until they brought it up
I’ve never played it before but looks fun
you are a zoomer you chose to ignore my paragraph of well written text and replied to a literal bot with a troll image
fricking idiot sage
>please read my wall of text
No, leftie
Everyone's already bought it. We're just waiting.
Unironically this.
I have no plans to buy it but I like ARPGs not shitty MMOs wearing ARPG lipstick.
pretty much this. And the beta numbers prove it too.
>And the beta numbers prove it too
I personally made 20+ accounts for resale.
ok and?
I know others who have many, many many more.
absolutely.
>I know others who have many, many many more.
youuurrr point being???
>the beta numbers prove it
you brought it up.
I told you something, and now you can't deal with it.
you have a mental deficiency. you really think that 20bot accounts added to those millions?
go on intern. preach to me.
last (You)
(you) need help. And I will pray to jebus so you can see the light. thank you brother.
Do you really think that people pay money for the pixel rewards you got during the open beta? They were so lacklustre.
I bought a KFC chicken sandwich to get into beta and had explosive diarrhea. I was literally pissing out of my ass. It was still more worth than falling for the pre-order meme
>Everyone's already bought it. We're just waiting.
yeah.... I've been a hardcore fan since Diablo 1. D2 was definitely the peak but I still played the shit out of D3. I bough the D2 remaster. I already pre-ordrered D4. I don't give a frick how bad it is, it's only $70.
morons thought D3 was worth the hype too.
>Did blizzard kill the franchise and alienate all the fans with diablo immortal?
Anon, this happened even before D3 released. Blizzard has been dead for almost 20 years.
Brevik launched a failed game with an actual new idea
These people sank an entire company into the shitter
i made that in corel draw
>Jay "frick that loser" Wilson
Hahaha, yup. Bliz was shit for Diablo 3 and there's no hope for Diablo 4 with it's battle pass
Don't forget blizzard tried to force real names instead of usernamea and the real money auction house
remember that the names thing failed because we started making fun of a CM for still living with his mom. He was one of the first to change to a real name.
no he did not.
>Did blizzard kill the franchise and alienate all the fans with diablo immortal
Yes. But the writing was on the wall long before that.
It was probably the last good writing to come out of Blizzard.
I'm not paying 70 fricking dollars to play an always online single player game with micro transactions and season passes.
Of all the complaints, always online? Really? How do you not have an internet connection 24/7?
It's largely a question of necessity. Why is it important for Blizzard that you cannot play solo without being connected? What happens if they discontinue support for the game or eventually go under from all their shitty decisions? I can still install D2, WC3, and earlier games and play them without touching Battle.net, but D4 would be lost.
then play those
>own nothing and be happy, etc.
you already own nothing homie when you die you don't take diablo with you stfu
I want you to realize that the last time the industry said something like this, it was Don Mattrick saying that if you had a problem with the Xbox One requiring you to be online, you should go play the Xbox 360 instead and he permanently killed the Xbox brand by saying that.
That's perhaps the worst argument you can make.
there's still xbox being made and bought tho
Xbox is a husk of what it was before that comment was made and they were beating the shit out of Sony for the entire generation, Sony only caught up and surpassed the 360 numbers after the PS4 was released and they kept counting cheap PS3 sales.
That single comment has left Xbox in 3rd place by a large amount and they've been trying to win consumers back for 10 years by being as consumer friendly as possible to no avail. Phil Spencer just recently admitted how fricked they are on a podcast, you must have been too young back then to realize that the 360 was a cultural phenomenon.
>Xbox is a husk of what it was before that comment was made
But that comment isn't the reason why Halo is shit now, or Gears, and it's not the reason for Fable not existing anymore either. Game Pass is still the best deal in gaming and that came after so whatever. But honestly, there's no correlation.
Game pass is the "direct to DVD" equivalent for video games
Xbox was killing itself with Kinect way before Mattrick opened his stupid mouth.
there was a thread on this just the other day
i think this anon is referencing it too
i want a cute twitch cocaine gf whos slightly racist
>why
because the genre is built around acquiring powerful items through dumping dozens of hours into the game and not having server checks would allow to easily cheat and bypass everything the game has to offer, that's why almost every big game in the genre is mainly online and if you have a choice of playing online/ladder/season/league or playing sp most people choose the former and if you're posting say a character or a build guide from offline no one would take it seriously since you being clean is not guaranteed. this same mentality has been around all the way back in d2.
now that's why things are the way they are in the genre, but in d4 you also have some fricking pvp zones that are supposedly very important to the endgame and several other things so saying it's completely unnecessary is being misinformed or moronic. the game is nearly an mmo.
This makes no sense whatsoever. Why the frick would it matter to anyone playing online if people cheat in their own single player save? Blizzard literally solved this issue 20 years ago with Diablo 2. Closed battle.net and single player were 2 completely different entities. Nobody in 20+ years has ever managed to somehow magically transfer a cheated single player character or items into closed battle.net. There were lots of exploits and cheats in closed battle.net over the time, but that's the same with D3 and WoW and will be the same with D4 and has nothing whatsoever to do with offline modes existing.
>Nobody in 20+ years has ever managed to somehow magically transfer a cheated single player character or items into closed battle.net
They actually did, though. That's how the infamous 1.09 white items (occy rings etc) ended up on closed Bnet. That was the one and only time though
>D2
No it wasn't, gay.
This has not been an issue in any other genre or game. Ever. No one has demanded always-online to mitigate whatever version of this did exist. Cheating remains in Monster Hunter, but no one doubts the posted build. They simply understand they need to substitute accordingly.
You're a decade too late to cry about always online in Diablo.
The problem never went away, there is no reason to stop crying about it.
>we put out your house fire, there's no reason to cry about everything being ruined
Keep crying for 10 more years gay
>servers go down
>thanks for buying the game, now it will never work again
How underage should you be to still defend always online? like "you will own nothing and like it" has been a thing for more than a hot minute so even early gen Z should be aware of this scam. You would have to be like 14 to not know why always online is bad.
>I don't use Steam
No i don't use steam. I like owning videogames.
Anon, steam has an offline mode. It just wants you to sign in every couple of weeks then you can go back offline again.
>I don't use Steam
My account has been offline for years and yet it's logged in right now.
>offline mode exists
you are a dumb Black person ape, as expected for a blizz shill.
>no hype
Apparently you missed the last open beta.
The game is still a month away anyway, and most who have any interest have already played the beta (I'll still play it again next weekend with a new class though).
My main complaint was traversing the overworld with fricking 300 ping and shit pinballing everywhere. Only hope they've been doing things to optimise that. If nothing else, group play needs to be an option you can toggle, because the game runs perfectly until the hub opens up to you at the start, and I can't see how that would be a difficult thing to implement.
No, I don't have constant access to a good internet connection. I have really shitty spotty wifi where I live and I literally can't play online games.
You arent losing out on anything though. It's just a blizzard game.
I live in rural farmland and my connection is somewhat unstable, yes.
i work on a nuclear submarine
its a boomer complaint dont worry about it
>dealing with weird server latency on your SINGLE PLAYER GAME!
>HC character dying to disconnects on your SINGLE PLAYER GAME!
>Server maintenance that prevents you from playing for a few hours every few weeks on your SINGLE PLAYER GAME!
yeah a real fricking mystery
>t. has never played games on his long ass 12 hour flights
>wants me to pay 50 dollars to use plane wifi with huge data caps so I can play SINGLE PLAYER games alone
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
dude servers fricking suck
>You have phones don't you?
Since nobody else made this point yet, what I hate about online always servers is that you're forced to play the latest patch.
I liked Diablo 3 at launch inferno and ah were both great but they filtered shitters, inferno was tuned down, rmah removed everything that was fun about diablo 3 was patched away. I paid 60$ for D3 like everyone else but I can never play the D3 that I liked ever again because it's an always online game where developer dictates how I'm supposed to have fun. I wish I could experience original inferno again but that's impossible. No such problems with Diablo 2 or any other single player game, the game will always stay the same and if there are patches it's my choice to install them or not.
This is why I will never ever support or buy another always online game.
The fact that I can be fricked out of playing a full-priced game by myself simply because the monkeys at HQ can't get their heads of their asses long enough to get a server working is something of a dealbreaker, yes.
>pay $69.99 plus tax plus tip
>servers are overloaded
>can't play
>servers go down for maintenance
>can't play
>blizzard kills servers years down the line
>can't play
Meanwhile
>piratebros pay $0.00
>play game whenever they want
Dumbass
Dumbass
Based
They want to cheat.
If anyone ever complains about always online just replace it with "i cant cheat and give myself max level and the exact rolls I want"
>single player
it's an mmo rofl
>70 bucks
>Always online
>nu-blizzard
No thanks.
Every new game is like that though.
Kinda weird how my Elden Ring copy isn’t like that… huh….
go buy everspace 2
Even if that was true you'd just accept it? No attempt to get around it?
Jesus, normalgays were a mistake.
If I don’t accept it then I can’t play with my friends
>DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE PHONES!!!!!?
Excellent b8
so?
so shut up
I will buy only after the paypig early acess to check if the game is good. If not, frick it.
I fricking hate consoles so fricking much, there is absolutely 0 reason for it to only be 4 players per party especially since there are random people out in the over world even when you're in a party of 4. I played the open beta, it was a lot more fun than Diablo 3 (dogshit game and no I will not buy the expansion I don't care if it "fixed" that dumpster fire) I'll give it that and I'll pick it up since my friends are going to be playing it but I imagine it's a game that will keep me having fun for a month or two until other games I want come out.
they made the artstyle too dark
>Battlepass
>Cash Shop
>Special Edition does not include the game
>Blizzard hasn't made a good videogame in 20 years
I don't know what life is like in the maze but i really don't know why you have any expectations at all for this clear goyim factory farm. Anyone who buys this is a rube.
I actually was willing to pay $70 and was willing to deal with always online again but the minute I saw Battlepass I immediately knew that this game was dead for me
>Did blizzard kill the franchise and alienate all the fans with diablo immortal?
Blizzard killed the franchise with Diablo 3.
Immortal just put the final nail in the coffin.
>le D3 killed Diablo zoomer
Back to r eddit with you.
Diablo 3 was the first game to not be like Diablo 1 or 2 and they only lean harder in that direction.
You are a moron D2 was nothing like D1
B-But my heckin epic streamer said so!
Bought the early access pre-order
I had fun in the open beta.
I'll easily get several dozen hours in this game, so it's worth it.
Enjoyed D2
Enjoyed Last Epoch
Enjoyed PoE
D3 was...ok. Felt a bit shallow. D4 felt more substantial in 25 levels than D3 did up to 70.
Thank you Goyim, Activision Blizzard King welcomes you back to the maze. You are seen.
Now back to your pen, your trough will be filled with slop shortly, theres a good hog.
You're missing lost ark, slop-eater
>corel
i kneel
>Enjoyed Last Epoch
God I hope they fix their endgame loop. Stability gain from echoes is shit right now and echoes themselves are really boring. I can only tolerate it because I like their class design and skill system.
Last Epoch's skills are great, they ought to be the new standard.
If Blizzard gave people that level of customization, half the options would be broken.
Always online MMO-lite style (big turrnoff if you arent a loser)
On top of that, yeah.. Blizzard. Who wants to support that shitshow.
Yeah, it's over.
Can I as a Christian support a corp that openly worships demons? I wanted to play the game to kill the demons, not worshipping them...
The ending is gonna be amazing and subversive. Lilith is actually a hero guys. Please buy the expansion where Azmodan returns for yet another epic adventure into hell while he comments on your progress every level.
lmaoLore
If the lore and universe doesnt matter, why not just make an orange geometric world where you run around as either a triangle or square and watch numbers go up as you use your four buttons to remove the enemy rhombus shapes?
Surely it would be cheaper and you people would still buy it?
>why not just make an orange geometric world where you run around as either a triangle or square and watch numbers go up as you use your four buttons to remove the enemy rhombus shapes?
I would maybe play that, make it smartguy
It's not my desire to placate the moutbreathing masses like
. Sorry.
Was the diablo series ever known for their engaging and hyper deep story? The answer isn't yes. With a few exceptions, I'd say video game stories are never worth a dime, and they are only good at creating a theme or world. They will barely ever come close to a well written book. Can't even think of one game I'd say that is far better than books.
That's the point though. They completely switched up the mood of the series with the abomination that was D3. I couldn't even stomach that shit outside of the campaign mode. Completely killed any interest I had in the franchise.
The only good thing about D3 was the RMAH, where I botted and sold items thrice of what I paid for the game, so in the end I didn't lose money on it at least.
funniest part is that everyone hated the rmah but by current standards it's so generous that there's no chance blizzard ever does it again. they'll just sell shit to players directly.
It was shit sure, but at least you could manipulate it and earn back what was taken from you. Closed my blizzard account after that shitshow and I've enjoyed the dumpsterfire ever since.
Generous my ass, the money you got was still blizzard toy bnet money, you couldn't directly cash it in
Blizzard still won it all
>Generous my ass, the money you got was still blizzard toy bnet money
that's not true, i funded a vacation to japan with diablo 3 earnings. you could cash out to paypal back then. i sold multiple items for $100 to $200.
Based RMAH enjoyer
My favorite part of d2 was trading for upgrades and favorite part of d3 was flipping items on the RMAH
I bought a bunch of israeliteelry with crit chance/damage/ias for less than $5 before people realized they were optimal stats and flipped for $50 a pop
Also the difficulty of release doablo 3 was fricking awesome. It was so hard, hell felt like hell. It was actually a challenge
The nu-Diablo community though b***hed about it being tpo hard and that people could buy power from RMAH. Now its like you said, they just buy power directly from blizzard. Its a joke
Graphics/physics/audio was diablo 4 looks fricking SICK, but battlepass BS and microtransactions killed my hype for it. If it came out with a RMAH id be all in
>Graphics/physics/audio was diablo 4 looks fricking SICK
I think the music is soulless, washed out, and forgettable just like everything else about the game.
>Graphics/physics/audio was diablo 4 looks fricking SICK
Correct. Stories in video games only exist as a vehicle or to provide context for the mechanics to occur.
Storygays should read books.
wrong. mechanics should enhance the narrative.
Deep? No. Using pre-existing tropes that run through cultures, developing deeper meanings that people can sense without necessarily being able to describe. Modern entertainment industry is stripping such references out of products though because they can't claim ownership of broad ideas. They will instead copy others which are timeless because they do use those tropes, but change them enough to take ownership, whilst stripping the meaning out.
Who the frick cares for stories in video games? I don't listen to what NPCs have to say.
Is this AI generated?
Looks better than D4.
It is.
go buy geometry wars homie
>90 dollars for day 1 access
>no content
>no endgame
>no features
>doesn't even have guild features
>half the classes are shit and feel like shit and are terrible to play
i payed 100 and most of you're other shit is wrong
Don't forget the servers won't even work on day 1. You'll pay extra money to sit in a queue for hours and then your game will crash. Frick Blizzard.
I would
This release will be a monstrous disaster. TORtanic 2.0 but on roids.
I'm cautiously optimistic about it. Haven't bought anything from them since the disastrous d3 release, but will most likely get d4. PoE is more or less disappointing today or stagnant, and I like the genre.
there is nothing wrong with worshiping demons because they aren't real
who is this?
quin69
amouranth , waste of your time
this game sucks tbh i played it in beta
Cool argument, bro.
>70 dollars
>battle pass
>microtransaction
>paid expansions
Its like they picked every possible way to israelite money out of people in the single game by combing premium and f2p shit in one game
They can frick off
You have to be stupid or a massive Blizzdrone to be hyped for anything that blizzard does nowadays. Due to that the game will have a decent playerbase.
You could just say stupid. Blizzdrones are low functioning vegetables.
Blizzdrones are delusional braindead zombies to me. So yeah I agree
Marketing put be off the game.
And not just the KFC stuff, but having their lead developers do feature reveal streams and expose how out of touch they are with what people actually want from the genre.
Not hope for this game.
This is why developer transparency is such a good thing for videogames. Mostly the consumers but also videogames in the end.
They’re going to design it to push microtransactions. It’s just a microtransaction platform, not a fun game. I’m not interested. They will design it to push purchases.
For me personally, i thought that freemium bullshit they're trying is what killed my interest, but what actually killed it was all the mmolite aspects i saw when i played the beta. Its just not diablo anymore, might as well play poe or lost ark or some other mmo trash if i wanted that
>might as well play poe or lost ark or some other mmo trash if i wanted that
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for testing for me btw.
I finally understand the hype
Bot post. I have seen this exact post like 20 times
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>4 legendaries
What's the fricking point?
why is this game so ugly
Trannies are colorblind
they wanted to recapture the feel of diablo 2, but just made diablo 3 and took the color out of everything
>forced multiplayer
Missed me with that gay shit.
for me it was the open beta
>the game is so boring to play that it's honestly mind boggling
>none of the dialogue serves any purpose, it's all random voice acted filler
>the open world aspect of it also serves no purpose other than make you walk all the way to where you want to go to progress
>the "events" or "world quests" or whatever you want to call them are complete garbage that just make you wait for a free chest, they have 0 gameplay value
>the dungeons (the best part is all of it honestly) are still extremely boring and uneventful
All people wanted and all they had to do was to make a game where you make a build for your character, kill demons, loot items and fight cool bosses. For some reason they decided to make it so you only do that 40% of your active time in the game and convinced themselves that was a good direction.
I have no clue what the point of this game even is after trying it out.
All they had to do essentially was to make another Diablo 1 with refined gameplay of course. It would have sold like hotcakes.
Oh well, RIP.
moronic trend chasing companies are deviating too much from the formulas that made games popular to begin with. Not every game needs a fricking open world for fricks sake, PSO2 NG made the same mistake.
>I have no clue what the point of this game even is after trying it out.
To get people hyped for PoE 2.
Nothing on this planet would get me hyped for this pile of excrement.
I just can´t put my finger on why this game is so boring.
>I have no clue what the point of this game even is after trying it out.
To drain morons of their wallets. I said it from day 1 the moment they put stupid ass mounts and pre order bonus's. They want to monetize all of their IPs.
They really should have just delayed it. It's coming out near Zelda, SF6, and FFXVI. There's no reason not to wait 6 months for them to patch the game and put it on discount.
They still think they can do this thing when they can brag they took attention away from other games, when the last tine they pulled it off was with fricking wildstar.
The only class I'm interested in is old, fat and ugly. This is a fantasy game.
>Why is there no hype for Diablo 4?
-it's an mmo designed for consolebabs, and to compete with lost ark
-mouse + keyboard was literally an afterthought to them when designing this game
-it's missing several qol features that have been present in every single other arpg for the past 15 years
-~~*battlepass*~~ daily chores
I thought it was terrible when I played the beta. It might have been better if I was a fan of MMOs but I'm not. This shit did not feel like Diablo to me.
So basically changes =bad ?
yes, the particular changes they've made are indeed bad. thanks for your understanding.
Changes in general aren't but the ones they made to the series are. I wouldn't be so tilted if they called it World of Diablo instead of Diablo 4. I still wouldn't buy it but at least it would give me a shred of hope for the series since it would have been a spin off game.
>at least it would give me a shred of hope for the series since it would have been a spin off game.
homie the last warcraft game was 20 years ago. they literally never made another one after world of warcraft.
It always amuses me when people finally realize that a long dead property/franchise is in fact dead. It's like watching a baby taking its first steps.
It’s not dead. Diablo immortal raked in hundreds of millions of dollars
Case in point.
and how is diablo immobile doing now?
How is this question relevant? If it made money that it did it’s job
the "job" of a video game is to entertain players, not to be a cash grab for moshe and the shareholders at blackrock and vanguard. this "game" series is dead, and you're further proving the point with your defense of its anti-consumer, anti-gamer, pro-shareholder practices.
The job of a company is to make money.
The job of a video game company is to make video games. Earning money is the effect of being either a good video game company that makes good games, or a soulless corporation that exploits consumers to please shareholders. Your entire argument is either bad faith shitposting or genuine paid shillposting, so kindly have a nice day you monumental homosexual.
The job of a video game company is to make money by selling video games. If the game creates more money then it costs to produce and maintain then the game is a succes
>If the game creates more money then it costs to produce and maintain then the game is a succes
Not if it hurts your brand.
Short term "success" that hurts you in medium/long term is not success.
Long term doesn’t matter. Only quarter to quarter matters. If it does end up being a problem down the line then it’s someone else’s problem
That reasoning is killing businesses
>the "job" of a video game is to entertain players
Not in this day and age stupid goyim.
you're right but people are so obsessed with numbers thanks to genshin morons and gachagays in general plaguing the minds of Ganker. doesn't even matter if the game is bad or good, they'll always bring up the sales because we loooooooove sequels and prequels and remakes and reboots
because its shit
What's exciting or innovative or new about it?
I'll play it when it comes out but that's about it
The game is clearly lacking in a ton of areas because it's a GaaS, so they'll add the shoud've been launch features later on.
I have no interest in that, maybe after 2 years I'll get it when it has some semblance of actual content and not just korean mmo busy work.
beta was nothing special. i'm down to play it for 20 bucks in 2 years
My 10 year old PC can't run it on lowest without stuttering so I won't be buying it.
just buy a console.
they had a really good deal for D4 and new Xbox.
immortal was fine
what kills diablo for me is the perspective
its not the 90s anymore, make it 3rd person with optional first person mode stuck in the past has been morons
i want a beautiful immersive world ala skyrim with good combat and tons of loot
So another Hellgate London? I'd love to see a revival.
yeah
aren't there literally thousands of third person action RPGs for you to play? Why the frick would you want an entirely different genre to become the exact same slop that already exists in abundance?
there are all action combat garbage souls likes with dodge rolls etc
i want classic diablo gameplay with changed camera perspective
also you missed
>first person
currently there is only borderlands, fallout 76 and eso online firstperson open world looters
>inb4 destiny
its shit mate
the genre clearly lacks big players in that deparment and im not playing indieshit games with half assed mechanics and no soul
Simply put, other ARPG's do what Diablo does but better in nearly every aspect. Rather than advance the genre or put a new spin on it, Blizzard chooses to take 3 steps back just like they did with Diablo 3. It remains to be said, there are more bad Diablo games than good ones.
let me guess
with other arpgs you mean path of exile
my response to this is
AHAHAHA wheeeze hahaha
That's the main problem with this game I think. It never set out to be a single player ARPG. It just set out to be "newbie friendly PoE" and that game is a microtransaction MMO bloated nightmare and has been for a long time. I don't want PoE or PoE with a Diablo 3 spin on it I want the Diablo 2 successor that the marketing department kept droning on about for years.
I am worried the end game will be one shot mechanics like in POE I hate that shit
I don't think it will be one shot shit but thy already lowered the level cap of characters for this "slam" event to 20 and want people to fight a world boss with more than likely increased HP pool.
same but with both know they are incapable to create a modern diablo 2, still whatever they shit out, it will be miles better than current poe, now if they make a better grim yawn, i will actually applaud
Torchlight, Torchlight 2, Titan Quest, PoE, Grim Dawn are all filled with features that have improved the genre over the years. D3 recently implimented the ability to have your pet gather gold and loot and return to town - a feature that other games did some odd 15 years ago.
I played the D4 beta, and I played Last Epoch and I look at Diablo 4 and think "How the frick does a multibillion dollar company lose out to a team of 30 or so nerds"
is last epoch good? I have it wishlisted and will pull the trigger once its cheap enough
Its PoE without the bloat and spreadsheets. Nearly every build is viable. I've been playing for 4 years and an ARPG fanatic so I am probably not the best nerd to ask.
sounds good thank you
It's worth it.
It's early access, keep that in mind. However, it is a good PoE alternative if you dislike following build guides and like doing your own thing. If I had to make a list before the thread dies it'd be this
+build variety
+short campaign
+campaign can be skipped early
+crafting is the best and most friendly this genre has seen
+tons of information inside the in-game FAQ, don't have to guess/look up what stat does what
+skill trees are simple but not too oversimplified, good middleground
+decent graphics especially in act 8 and 9
+balance is good enough as of may 2023
+constant updates; not abandoned unlike most early access games
+no mtx(yet)
+respec is forgiving; skill respec is practically free
-HORRIBLE optimization, easily the worst part of this game. expect jet engine fans no matter what your settings are on
-latency issues with some skills, mostly mobile ones like leap
-required online even if you are playing offline when first logging in (they claim to fix this on 1.0)
-ugly character models
-ugly NPC portraits
-endgame is lacking, just monoliths at the moment
-dot classes do not scale well at all in the endgame (warlock in 1.0 will probably fix this)
-lovecraft boss is still awful
-online monoliths only progress the person running the instance
-support builds feel like absolute memes, don't expect to full support your online pals
>I played the D4 beta, and I played Last Epoch and I look at Diablo 4 and think "How the frick does a multibillion dollar company lose out to a team of 30 or so nerds"
Simple anon.
The 30 nerds are making a game they'd want to play that produces profit.
At Blizzard, 30 suits tell nerds go make a game they think people will put up with that generates profit.
https://webmshare.com/Kb16V
No hype for 70$ Korean mobile mmo with predatory monetization, chinese tier censorship and devs who openly hate their own fanbase? I have no clue, it's literally the best game ever
one of the main designers or whatever exclusively plays with controller. He's probably the moron that needs the control scheme constantly displayed over the ui because he's so braindead he'll forget which button does what
Nothing nerdier/gayer than M/K superiority complex
Nothing wrong with using a controller.
it's not a superiority complex when their design is much more weighted towards controller
good, mouseBlack folk have been insufferable c**ts for the past 15 years, taste your own medicine butthole
did they add any / commands yet?
or is it all bound to a console wheel?
This game really makes me wonder if Blizzard still has the popularity to justify gatekeeping their games behind always online and the battle.net launcher. I would most definitely pick this up on a sale if I could just buy it on Steam or on console and play it offline without a battle.net account. But as it is, I'm most likely never going to play it.
it'll be cheap in a year or two. it's marketed for console. a few will lock themselves into it but they aren't going to stick around when the next FOTM game roles out.
but it's still always online and forces you to have a third party account to play. Console players are less likely to do this than PC players, particularly because online play costs extra money on consoles. That's why not even a company as popular as Rockstar has tried to force their social club shit onto their single player games on console, whereis they require it on PC.
pretty sure that R* added a battlepass
>GTA+
blizz is adding sub fees to their MMO D4 they are just calling is by different names
calling it*
Did you play the beta? The game and world itself is very much a MMO. Playing this offline single player would be even more empty and tedious than its current state.
How did Blizzard become the most israeli gaming company on Earth?
Because dipshits keep feeding them an astronomical amount of money for the video game equivalent of shitting on a plate.
Bobby kotick. How do you think they afford his 200 million dollar bonus
Convince me why SHOULD be hyped for Diablo IV.
The game is always online, that means no mods.
The devs have said there will be no overpowered builds and will actively nerf anything cool, so players will always be grinding for 1% more strength.
The game is timesink slot machine, a thousand hours in your build still won't be done, but you'll still be grinding the same dungeons using the same skills for hundreds of hours.
What about all this is actually fun?
You know what'd be fun for me? Building a Necromancer who starts off with one skeletal minion and gradually rising in power until I can control a legion, where the devs don't nerf the skeletons to die quickly so I'm forced to micromanage them. My character would have an aura that constantly resupplied my skeleton army as it broke, upon using the aura as an active skill my skeletons would merge together as a bone golem that'd be useful for bosses or tougher elites.
Does that sound cool? Too bad. You're playing Diablo IV.
So lets say they sell transmogs, pets and wing in the ingame shop. Does it really matter? I dont give a frick how my char looks or what little shit is following me. Let them squeeze the money out of the cucks. How will it matter for my gameplay?
>How will it matter for my gameplay?
I personally do not want to see the garbage flash that will be forced.
Blizzard has claimed they will not be selling power for money.
An important note is that Blizzard also claimed they wouldn't be selling power for money on immortal.
If you actually believe this will just remain being "pets/transmogs" you only have to look at their already existing MMO to see that is just them testing the waters before implementing full p2w
>Blizzard also claimed they wouldn't be selling power for money on immortal.
they literally still claim this today
Even if you don't buy the transmogs, the free battlepass will have all sorts of stuff like experience boosts and if you opt into that, you're going to be spammed with popups begging you to pay for them as well as be required to do dailies. Do you really want to deal with that shit in a Diablo game? I don't.
>free battlepass
after you pay 70/100
Why would you give a shit about diablo when path of exile exists and is FREE.
That game is microtranaction garbage, too. How about the Diablo 2 successor that was promised? Is that too much to ask? It's a really fricking simple formula.
>Overwhelming amount of "We are going to milk the shit out of the players while cheapen the hell out of production"
>Scammy price policy. 70$ (but actually 100$ if you dont want to be the late cow)+microtransactions if you want cool stuff + paid DLCs. Its just the worst deal from every world: B2P, F2P, Battlepasses etc.
>My personal favorite - most cool cosmetics will be hidden behind paywall, in a game where making character look cool IS the part of the gameplay. Frick them for that.
>It looks just boring esp in comparison to PoE flash dance party
And i mind you - thats just the surface level, that normies generally see.
Deeper beneath there are also shit endgame, shitty character customization, shit itemization, garbage balance.
it will sell like hotcakes because gamers are moronic consoomers, but it's unironically dead on arrival because of the dungeon system
>but it's unironically dead on arrival because of the dungeon system
What are you talking about?
i'll stick with Grim Dawn because it's not pozzed goyslop
I heard normalgays who don't play Diablo games liked it for an hour before they moved on to other things
It was developed for console
as such, it doesn't play well and it's less above positioning meaning the main difficulty content is gone from the game, thus no challenge
Diablo 3 was fricking shit for a few years, people expect the same from this.
Melee is once again pointless
the mmo-lite appeal isn't actually a bad thing if they implement grinding properly but so far it seems like haven't
I'll be trying it again this weekend or whenever the thing is out but ultimately I'll probably just stick with another game as the content doesn't feel engaging or rewards
>as such, it doesn't play well and it's less above positioning meaning the main difficulty content is gone from the game
I don't wanna defend nu Blizzard but stat checking (via proper builds) is at least half the challenge of any real ARPG, it absolutely isnt the "main difficulty content"
I have the game preordered for free as a gift and I still feel like I'm being scammed, as i will inevitably have to pay money to not look like a hobo and to play Paladin
why are games so heavily monetized now?
>Diablo 1
>Couldn't read when I first played it
>Had gamer parents help teach me ahead of K-8 and stat me
>expansion hard as balls
>Diablo 2
>Can read and math, full fledged nerd
>loved it
>still love it
>fun PVP, fun PvE, Paladin a best
>Expansion comes out
>Dear mother of frick
>It's good
>two new classes to frick with? Hell yeah
>got comfy swapping weapon sets to have more abulities/utilities
>Diablo 3
>faked being sick for a week to stay home and play it
>Can't play it the first day
>Get in, get error, get booted out
>game's pretty hard though but doesn't feel the same
>wind up spending most of the week playing Arma 2
>Don't buy expansion, game was nerfed into being piss easy long ago
>Diablo Immortal
>Laugh at it before it comes out
>despair, resume laughing after
>Diablo IV
The company decided to make me question what the frick they're doing with Diablo in 3 and committed sudoku with Immortal. I grew up playing Blizzard games before I could even read, having parents watch me and help me. Activision has made me wish they'd leave the corpse of Blizzard alone.
I preordered the game and the FOMO-pass.
I will wait for them to fix all the shit (it will take years) and then buy it at discount.
I enjoy Diablo Immortal. You guys should really give it a shot.
it was alright but the mobile control sheme killed it for everyone else by making you manually target your skills instead of the consolized version where skill atuomatically snap to targets nevermind the menues being terrible to navigate with a gamepad
overall i give it a 5/10 not great not terrible, ok for a story playthrough but nothing more
>inb4 who asked
>overall i give it a 5/10 not great not terrible, ok for a story playthrough but nothing more
That sounds exactly like my experience with Diablo 4. I guess people were correct when they said that it's basically D:I 2.0. I haven't touched Immortal yet (and I won't).
>I haven't touched Immortal yet (and I won't
i have no issue with that, you wont miss anything by not playing it and instead, should just replay any arpg you deem worth your time instead
>That sounds exactly like my experience with Diablo 4
shame, i had some minor hopes it would pull in me you us more into it but i guess they didnt learn that conditioning and monitanization isnt gameplay and shouldnt be in a game where you pay upfront
I wonder.
I'll try the free beta this weekend and if it's fun I'll probably buy the game the day before release.
the '''server slam'' is another desperate attempt at shit.
This. I think they're trying to build hype but they picked a hell of a time to do it. Most people are going to be hyped for that new Zelda game. No one is going to be playing this crappy MMO trash.
>free
you have to pre-order
wrong
Pretty moronic that they don't advertise it as such. Don't they want people to play their shitty game? Or is this supposed to pressure me into pre-ordering the game just so that I can play for a weekend?
"While the Server Slam is active, all players, regardless of whether they've preordered Diablo 4 or not, can participate."
Google is your fricking friend if you're goddamned call once in a chudhumping while.
Why the frick should I have to leave their own website to get such basic information? I guarantee most people would just assume you have to pre-order and lose interest
i'm excited about all the ways they might monetize the game
you know they are as well, in fact, it might just be the thing they're most excited about! it's gonna be great!
so far i assume
>battlepass
>cosmetics
>pay to skip for crafting
>pay for lootbox esque rewards ala seeing the contents of a ches
>pay for qol
Im currently playing eso and i have never seen a game with such aggressive monetization so i expect this but on steroids for diablo 4
Considering it costs somewhere in the neighborhood of 500,000USD to raise a character to maximum power in Immortal, I'm fully expecting a character in IV to cost over a million dollars.
disgusting
I wanted to like it, I enjoy d3 for what it is and the early dev blogs looked quite nice. After playing the beta I'm convinced it was either originally a mobile game or made by mobile devs and then blizzard tried to cram some cinematic story experience over it. Trash game for morons tbh I don't understand how anyone could be excited unless you have only played phone games or AAA slop and your standards are 6 feet below the barrel
Yeah I honestly don't know who this game is for or why so many people seem to like it. I like all Diablo games (besides Immortal). I even learned to enjoy Diablo 3 for what it is but this game is just straight up boring and soulless. Every second playing it felt like I was forcing myself to and all I could think about was quitting so I could play D2R instead.
I’ve never played it a Diablo game before so I don’t know what to compare it to
Casuals, paypigs and stay at home moms. I wish I was joking but we live in an age where Titan Quest has surpassed the latest Diablo game in depth, quality of content and quantity of content.
32 year old boomer here who played at least 10k hours of D2 and a couple thousand hours in D3. I am excited for D4. All the underlying systems and mechanics are there and they are solid enough for them to build upon.
The most important part of an ARPG is that it feels good to play, and D4 feels good. So while the endgame content itself might not be 10/10 at launch, they will very likely put out content over time that's good and keep making the game better and better over time. Keep in mind that this game will be updated with big PoE-like patches every 3 months + there will be expansions.
D3 was fricking ass at launch, but they managed to turn that around and make it into a very solid game around the RoS time. D4 launch is looking to be in a much better state than D3 was.
Quality bait. If not bait, I'm sorry you somehow managed to put that much time into ARPGs only to get duped by one that has a gameplay loop closest to Guild Wars 2, world bosses included.
>only to get duped by one that has a gameplay loop closest to Guild Wars 2, world bosses included.
That doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to compare it to something, you could have compared it to Lost Ark.
The map overlay thing is inexcusable. Their explanation is "BUT WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL ART OF THE GAME" but that's not valid. Let people play the way they want to play, even if that way might offend your artists because people will be looking at an overlay 90% of the time.
>The map overlay thing is inexcusable
it's console dev amateur hour.
not him but as an avid shart wars 2 player in the past, whats the problem with that comparison?
8/10
no map overlay
I can relate to what you are saying with "game feel", Titan Quest for example always felt like utter shit to me to slaughter shit in. The wonky ragdoll effects plus the weak sound effects always made me feel like I was hitting rubber dummies with those sausage shaped balloons. The death animations of DiabloIILoD, sounds and all always made me feel like I was slaughtering shit, of course itemization., class builds and other stuff matters, but if it's boring to kill in an ARPG, it's not gonna end up being enjoyable ever
>The most important part of an ARPG is that it feels good to play, and D4 feels good.
The combat felt like Diablo 3 but in slow motion, the quests were the most boring and tedious MMO style crap imaginable, and the world felt copy/pasted, sterile, scaled, and soulless. Even the music felt uninspired and was utterly forgettable. I'm honestly at a loss trying to figure out what you see in it that's so great. I actually envy you because I truly WANTED to be hyped for the game and did my best to force myself to like it.
>The combat felt like Diablo 3 but in slow motion
Keep in mind that you only played until level 25. Everything will become 2-3x faster when you are level 100, you have gear, you have paragon boards, etc.
>I'm honestly at a loss trying to figure out what you see in it that's so great
Like I said, the combat feels great. That's like 50% of what an ARPG needs. The other 50% is the endgame content and gameplay loop. Where most ARPGs fall off for most people, is that the endgame always becomes stale eventually.
With D4 they're going to have PoE-like patches that shake things up every 3 months. Also, if their game isn't good, then they won't be selling cosmetics, battle passes and expansions. So there's a HUGE incentive for Blizzard to actually care about content in this game, unlike how they just dropped D3 like a sack of potatoes.
>With D4 they're going to have PoE-like patches that shake things up every 3 months
according to who?
they didn't even say what the first season will have yet
>according to who?
The developers.
>they didn't even say what the first season will have yet
Every new season will have 1 big gameplay change, with story quest lines that introduce them. Sometime in the future there might be new zones as well. There will also be new paragon boards, new legendaries, new uniques, new glyphs, etc. Each season will also have different events. In addition to that, every season will also have a new seasonal journey + season pass.
>The developers.
right.
so, how are they shaking things up, now? so close to release, without a single detail?
>without a single detail?
They have said that the first season will be 1-2 months after launch. Why would they announce details about the first season maybe 3 months in advance?
>Why would they announce details about the first season maybe 3 months in advance?
why would they want so much money for a game, then NOT give any details on a feature that is going to "shake things up"?
put the boss on.
Seasons will be post launch hype cycle. Stop being moronic. It makes no sense to reveal anything of that before the actual launch.
>Seasons will be post launch hype cycle
who cares about seasons?
>It makes no sense to reveal anything of that before the actual launch
yeah
already saw endgame.
streamerguy gave his life to show us.
>who cares about seasons?
90% of the playerbases. Every ARPG that has seasons gets huge boosts in player numbers with every new season.
>90% of the playerbases
proof of that?
Literally just go look at Path of Exile's numbers. New seasons gets like 150k players and then it dwindles to 20k over the next few months. Then a new season comes out and it bumps back up to 150k. Rinse and repeat.
>Literally just go look at Path of Exile's numbers. New seasons gets like 150k players and then it dwindles to 20k over the next few months. Then a new season comes out and it bumps back up to 150k. Rinse and repeat.
don't embarrass yourself like this. I could sherry pick numbers and streams of that guy literally going insane asking people to play his game.
>don't embarrass yourself like this
The only one embarrassing themselves here is you.
Just go look at these numbers, you moron - https://steamcharts.com/app/238960
>sherry pick
Jesus christ.
that anon is kinda moronic but he's literally right, always gets a 100k+ players every 3 months.
lol no, it doesn't.
and the spike, well the spike..
>lol no, it doesn't.
I already told you to literally just go look at the numbers here
lmmfao
homie are you moronic, literally peaks over 100k every 3 months and this is from steamcharts online
ever see the RMT prices brothers?
they are sweet at league start, oh yes
actual schizo in the thread
>Steamdb
but I play PoE through standalone since I've been playing it since beta. Do I just happen to be part of 1% of the playerbase or something?
read what is says at the bottom of that pic
go look at their twitter(for their player count)
do the math
Sorry, all my brain space is taken up by PoE's systems and it has left me moronic.
well this league was an all time high and he blew it bad.
did you know that one of the owners got busted for it?
dropping off for lulz
no, about 40% still play through the regular client
Dumbfrick.
https://steamcharts.com/app/238960
this league started with an all time high of 300k+
and he lost half in 24 hours.
that's a pretty silly way to look at it. the league starts at the same time in all regions, why would everyone log in at the exact same time the next day?
the charts/numbers don't lie.
the console league(s) start later
you don't seem to understand. 300k log in at exactly 4pm EST on league launch everywhere around the world. it could be 150k peak the next day and all 300k from the first day could have logged in and played sometime during the day but there was no reason to all play again at exactly 4pm
it's not bots. stop it. they don't use steam.
I am not implying that at all
oh then it's just the new season hype.
I don't know what you're trying to say. I am arguing saying the game "lost" 50% of players in 1 day doesn't make sense
twitch tv
and people literally saying frick this shit "kekw"
>Every ARPG that has seasons gets huge boosts in player numbers with every new season
oh you mean like POE?
well, maybe kind of like POE?
or do you mean like AN MMO expansion?
>or do you mean like AN MMO expansion?
Show me an MMO that gets expansions every 3 months.
Lost ark
kekw
Is that just because LA is speed running content releases in NA to catch up to KR or does it actually get expansions every 3 months?
>90% of the playerbases
why did so many people have to beg for bot banwaves?
>then NOT give any details on a feature that is going to "shake things up"?
Probably because they want it to be a surprise. People have speculated about rune words, because those were in the game prior and then taken out. Set items are another one that they have confirmed will come later too.
>Set items are another one that they have confirmed will come later too
Boy I can't wait for this game to just turn into D3 again.
They have stated that the reason why they removed sets from D4 and that they aren't in the game for launch is specifically because they didn't want to repeat a D3 situation with sets. They want to come up with something else.
>Every new season will have 1 big gameplay change
sounds like shit. that free to play game has been doing it for almost a decade?
>Each season will also have different events
really?
such as?
>such as?
Look at the 30 seasons of D3 and their events to get an idea of what they could potentially do.
>Look at the 30 seasons of D3
did they ban the bots?
>new new new
Sounds like WoW addons which got worse each time.
>The other 50% is the endgame content and gameplay loop
Good ARPGs END when you beat it but you're free to create a new character or chase rare items if you want. This endgame loot and content skinnerbox treadmill is MMO trash. I guess the generic and soulless MMO components of Diablo 4 that turn me completely off from it is what gets you so excited. I understand what you see in the game now but it'll never be for me sadly.
>when you are level 100
no arpg requires you to get to max level for it to be fun, even fricking poe getting to 100 is something most people dont do.
>The other 50% is the endgame content
MMOBlack person detected.
Shit taste and worthless opinion confirmed.
>MMOBlack person detected.
>Shit taste and worthless opinion confirmed.
its true though, moron, especially in the context of diablo. It was only ever fun to grind for rare items so you can dab on normies. Once you actually get the thing it's boring as frick.
to me felt like early game D3, but slower, the skills were less flashy and a bit more clunky to control because it wasn't designed for m+kb
Yeah, early game D3 but you're dropped into a pointless open world that wienerslaps you in the face with generic and tedious quests/content over and over and over. Why am I the only one bothered by this? Are my standards for ARPGs really so high? The open world/MMO trash ruins this game.
I'm just talking about how it feels to play the character. I'm the one who called it a trash game for moron, the "open world" is a series of corridors you have to stare at your map to see where you're going because you can only see 5 feet in each direction to go pick some berries or hold E for 10 seconds to charge Liliths vibrator and fight the incoming HORDES of 4 enemies at a time and then go back to town and have a few minutes of dialogue where you're prompted to select a single dialogue option multiple times. It's awful shit no one who likes these games wants
maybe people expect nuBlizzard to fill it with Auction House AIDS and whatnot
Does anyone sincerely expect they won't?
Diablo 3 and 2 remaster slayed the fan base.
Everyone I ask is very hyped for it. Most people just don't post or lurk on the internet about it.
same except they aren't paying 70 or 100 for it.
i got it cause flat necro thats pretty much it lol
it's one of the most boring and safe games i've ever played in my entire life, it plays like how a marvel movie feels to watch.
Played the beta and it was excruciating to get to lvl 20
I’m not one to post soul vs soulless but it is completely soulless it even made Diablo iii seem great by comparison and that’s sad
druid detected
id play d4 if real money auction house came back
i made like 50 grand botting necklaces and shit in d3
Have they said anything about WASD movement for PC?
already pre ordered, immortal was pretty good for a mobile game and it looked great
The game is not designed to play. The game is designed to scam people and rob their money.
So reading through the replies itt, I don't see anyone discussing the monsters leveling with you being a problem.
Are you all really okay with that feature?
You will be able to play with your friends without having to grind and catch up. So good in my book. It's worse otherwise, as you will never get on your neet friend's level.
So you trade that but in return you lose all sense of progression that is, I feel at least, one of the staple designs of ARPGs like Diablo.
How so? It's gonna be a persistent problem the entire time, not just once. You will lose any sense of progression with your character.
>it's gonna be a persistent problem the entire time
You reach max level and there's no more level scaling.
I guess I might be assuming wrong but I assumed that you will finish most of the loot grind/end game long before you actually reach max level like it was in d2, or is everyone gonna reach max level easily this time around, or all we all speculating for now?
>or is everyone gonna reach max level easily this time around
The devs said for casuals it will probably be 150 hours to max level. But good players who played the closed betas have said that people who know what they are doing, and who play 14-16 hours per day, will likely be max level within the first 4-5 days.
it's not going to be like d2 or poe where the absolute max level is something you'll have to grind for for dozens of hours due to exponential exp requirement and it only gives you a few more points to allocate anyway
it's going to be like d3 where max level is reached within hours and it's simply your baseline
you'll have paragon levels after that
I think scaling will make partying up with low levels wonky and perhaps allow for some pvp cheese but ultimately it won't matter much since near everyone will be max level very fast
It's not a great thing, but it's not a major problem either. It's the kind of thing that only matters once when you are leveling, and only for a short period of time.
It would be fine if they didn't use the same awful scaling algorithm that retail WoW does where enemies scale way faster than you..
No, it's shit but plenty of other things are even worse. I'm not getting the game either way because I hate MMORPGs
the last game they made is an almost exact copy but with more skinner box features
the previous game was handcrafted for consoles but released first on pc.
the last game people bought into was a remake of an mmo from 16 years ago.
the sequel to their popular fps /hero shooter was so bad that it was literally a slight meta change and one new map and one new character.
They keep shoving that fricking dragonflight gayslop in my face I uninstalled battlnet and these fricking clowns will never see a cent from me again.
Your question is like asking "Why is there no hype for Tetris 4?". For the younger audience, that's basically how they see it. How we saw Tetris or Pong when we were kids. All the freshness related to this game series has long since died out. Call it old or solved or whatever you want, no one is interested, and no amount of flashy gimmicks is going to trick the unwitting because they have already passively cataloged this series as stale in their subconscious. Even the bumbling zoomers know Blizzard is utterly helpless when it comes to innovating. Blizzard should just stop.
I'm actually so fricking hype it's insane
I refuse to buy censorshit
Kill all censorshitters
What's censored in D4?
Women, unironically.
No, they're not. There's literally deep cleavage armors and armors that show straight up underboob. There's also dead tortured women with their breasts exposed. Are you outraged about something that's only in your mind, or are you just lying?
Post proof and dont post that one underboob sorc pic we all know.
I see underwear and bras.
You can literally see the woman's nipples and the dude's dick.
I see underwear and bras.
shall we enhance?
>dat dong sheath
just pre-ordered 7more copies
>I see underwear and bras.
You can clearly see her nipples. Zoom in if you have poor eyesight.
I see underwears and bras
shall we enhance?
Dishonest moron. I don't know why I even bothered looking up proof for you, when you're such a little disingenuous weasel anyway.
looks like a bra.
wait, lmao you think that is "exposed"
That's a bra. What the hell is this gaslighting? lmao
>mutilated torture victim: OK
>nudity: absolute haram
I want off this gay timeline
I think the issue is they erroneously made a male model with a penis instead of a vegana and they attempt to fix it by hiding it with texture work, but forgot about the genometry.
oh there are full nips, modeled but this is a blue board and it's for femnec enjoyers only
>spend all that time making sliced, bloody torture victims
>position them with a spear coming out of his head
>no blood on the spear or head wound
enhance
The b***hes are wearing a bra, you disingenuous blizzshitter
>skin tight bra with visible nipples
Ask me how I know youve never seen a naked woman
she has a bra on
You're so fricking dumb, lol, there are visible lines both above and below said """nipples""". She's got a bra on, and you're doubling down like a typical buzzard shill. Imagine claiming those are her nipples while she's still got panties on. This isn't bdsm hardcore shit, it's censored slop that morons like you play stupidly obtuse.
It's a bra, straight up, you total dumbfrick
Ask me how I know you're a shill
I guess I've never seen a women naked before either because none of them had lines above and below their breasts made of skin
Or skin flaps shaped like underwear that conveniently line up over their genital region.
Nice try homosexual
what is going on here? they tried to cover up the nudity by painting on some underwear but left the dick hanging out?
If you are zoomed out at normal levels it looks like they are wearing underwear, but if you zoom in slightly you can see the details. Not sure why.
>There's also dead tortured women with their breasts exposed
No.
I played beta.
> Huge fricking act 1 full of different dungeons
> cool barb gameplay
> juicy graphics
> addictive gear farming
> grim dark fantasy done right
Lemme guess, you gays need more?
>full of different dungeons
They have already addressed this and made changes to the way their dungeon generation works.
🙂
Its weird how this has obvious dead ends but they never addressed it. I don't think dungeons should be straight lines, and personally was never bothered by dead ends. I think people who complained about dead ends were zoomzooms who wanted to fly through the content like speed demons while I still prefer if ARPGs went slower like Dark Alliance or Champions of Norrath
I really don't know but that was right from their stream. I guess people got lost, or something.
people posting this pic are so clueless as to how procedural generation in an arpg even works if they think it's anything but the norm
woah it's the same rooms in a random arrangement how could've I ever guessed
>it's okay if it's shit! it's okay the billion dollar company's procedural generation is 30 years old!
so much this
it literally doesn't matter lad do you even play this genre? a few hours in you won't even look at the rooms, you should worry about gearing and the endgame systems which is what's questionable here, tilesets are a non-factor in a longevity of the game.
Man, stop being intentionally obtuse. No one is complaining that it's tiles. Tiles are fine. Its just such a pathetically low set of tiles that make the map. Fricking the random generation in D1 is more dynamic.
>people posting this pic are so clueless as to how procedural generation in an arpg even works if they think it's anything but the norm
Yeah.
Nice maze bro. I bet that totally isn’t frustrating to play through
It isn't in the slightest... are you homosexuals so numbed that you can't even imagine something not being a straight line to the loot piniata? As you play on these systems you unconsciously learn the rules to the map generation and know where the exit will be anyway. I can literally walk into any zone in PoE and know exactly where the exit is and where any quest items will be immediately, and I don't even know how, it's just a skill you develop over time playing these games. The only good games with an on rails section are the DKC games
>I can literally walk into any zone in PoE and know exactly where the exit is
i map in and map out with a portal in POE
lol wtf?
>He's in maps before he's even walked onto the beach
Damn anon are you the BFR himself?
I'm obviously talking about campaign zones. Although in maps you will know where the boss room is too
2 hours to get to maps, faster when i wait a week and let friends gear me up.
you aren't doing the campaign in 2 hours unless you're literally one of the fastest speedrunners in the game. why lie about that?
get good kid.
>why yes, i've been playing since the CB
>yes I have my Kiwi pet
>/oos
no chris, I don't give you money.
uhhhh okay you still aren't doing the campaign in 2 hours on league start. typical boomer larp though
>uhhhh okay you still aren't doing the campaign in 2 hours
my whole guild does this.
not solo obviously, otherwise your entire guild had a shot at a free trip to new zealand
some are from that shithole but we all RMT
why would rmt make you faster at completing the campaign on launch
yeah
>one of the fastest speedrunners
Majority of Baal% are sub 2 hours
he's bad at POE
but he knows where the campaign exits are.
>Replying to a completely different anon
>Missed the entire point that labyrinthine procedural maps are not a chore to navigate if you play these games
You must be on par with the ultimate blizz wienerslurper
>labyrinthine procedural maps are not a chore to navigate
i use(d) the addon
and other neat-o stuff.
>campaign zones
thank god D4 will let us skip that garbage LOL
That's the whole fricking point, I think you're the one clueless about procedural generation.
I'm not doing that without a map overlay
Good thing its built in to the fricking game
can blizzard not make more than like 7 tiles?
>juicy graphics
the ones in the character creator?
Im torn on this game
on one hand Blizzard is a company infested with trannies but on the other hand they sexually harass their hot worker
I like how people b***h about the trannies when its the rich white higher ups doing the real frick ups
Kys israelite. You are the problem. Always has been.
Then why don't you try standing up for women, instead of spitting on trans groups?
Because women don't know what they want. One minute they're claiming to be strong and able to do anything without "some man" helping and then they'll flip and suddenly everyone was supposed to support them so they wouldn't fail in a setting generally composed of men.
>with diablo inmortal only
>and not the shit that was 3
>and the expansion
>and everything wow related
>and starcraft 2
>and ruining hots
dont forget the warcraft 3 remaster debacle
completely forgot of that
I for one, welcome the coming of the third videogame crash. Retro and indie will rise up from the ashes.
Pretty sure retro and indies are the first to burn and the only thing left would be Sonys gay central games and Nintendos same shit for the past 30 years ad nauseum.
Does the game require skill to play like for example Elden Ring?
no it's an arpg
Strength of Blizzard is Graphic and Cinematic.
Why is this not in third or Fist-Person?
>Why is this not in third or Fist-Person?
D4 was originally a third person Souls-like game.
https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Project_Hades
I played the open beta for 3 hours and I could barely stomach playing that much. It was the most boring shit ever.
And I say this as someone who can easily slam 50-60 hours each new D3 season. The game is way worse than even D3.
All the people that knew how to make good games left Blizzard long ago.
basically my experience
i only played necro though which made the game boring as frick because you could win while afking and nothing i did mattered, if i played a different class it might be a 5/10 instead of a 4/10
It's boring because it's severely unfinished, they lack the resources they once had, the game was supposed to launch day 1 Gamepass, they pushed the developing really fricking hard, then the deal fell through.
So it's a $70 rushed f2p game now.
How is it rushed when they were given 4 years of extra time?
When the pros are replaced by fricking morons shit tends to take exponentially longer.
you can rush something even if you released it 10 years later
It’s a 2d game it can’t take 4+ years to make and still be rushed
>So it's a $70 rushed f2p game now.
A shame that millions of 30+ men in dead marriages are going to buy it in droves because Diablo reminds them of a time when they were happy.
me, but i'm just going to use it for the character creator and never actually play the game
The character creator is awful. 4 faces, 10 hairstyles and body paint
I just want my Kiera Knightly simulator and maybe some muscle girls too.
I was fairly excited until I learned that the little asian mary sue child will be prevalent throughout the entire game.
>Why is there no hype for Diablo 4?
Nothing to be hype about.
Literally cancelled y pre-order after the beta it was boring as frick.
The beta felt too much like Lost ark. So i gave up on it.
I just don't care about Diablo 3, 4 or PoE
I want something more like Diablo 1 or 2, but Blizzard wont even make anything like that again
I always heard Blizzard was a homosexual company that made shit games.
But I tried Diablo Immortal and Overwatch 2 (both of which topped many "worst games of 2022 lists) and I enjoyed them alot?
Do I just have brain damage?
It's more likely you haven't experienced good games.
The only good hero/class shooter is TF2.
There are no good ARPGs, you just take what you can get, which is mostly D2, Path of Exile, and Grim Dawn.
Don't know. For me it was Diablo 3, it was such a dumbed down mess. That shit didn't even have skill trees, and the endgame item sets would force you into a very specific playstyle, leaving no room for player freedom or expression.
Diablo Immortal was just the final nail in the coffin.
From the little bit of footage I saw of Diablo IV, it looked better than both of these, but I simply don't have faith in this company anymore. Maybe I'll pick it up during some sale for $19,99 when I'm bored and itching for an arpg.
It's $69,99. You literally have to be mentally moronic to pay more than $59,99 for one(1) video game.
>anime picture
So you're buying the game?
>complaining about anime picture on an anime board on an anime website of all things
So you're buying the game?
I wasn't complaining. I was just pointing out that you like anime, and thus you're likely mentally moronic.
/r/gaming might be more your speed, chuddy
Shut up troony
But reddit loves anime.
>I was just pointing out that you like anime, and thus you're likely mentally moronic.
I know Black folk that are cooler than you.
Shut up troony
ARPGs are a junk food genre, so it's funny to see people being overly critical of D4, like pitting McDonald's against Burger King. There's nothing wrong with craving a trashy burger, but launching into some in-depth analysis about the quality of a Whopper vs a Big Mac is utterly ridiculous when neither of them are a real fricking hamburger.
>Big Mac
>not a real fricking hamburger
Diablo 3 and Immortal were shit, so why should I be excited?
there haven't been any good Diablo games in over 20 years. Everything they put out in the last 2 decades was unsalvageable slop.There's literally no reason to be hype about this.
This franchise went in the completely wrong direction, they should have innovated and upgraded the gameplay with each iteration as the technology allowed for it. They should have set the bar for what ARPGs are instead of standing in place, relying on nostalgia to fuel their aggressively monetized loot casino abominations. Other devs are miles ahead of them now.
because last epoch is better