Why is this walking simulator so highly praised?
It not even good at being a walking simulator. He walks slow af and you cant even see where you are going with all the fog around you. I have to open the map to see where I am facing so I can walk in the right direction.
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>walking simulator
stopped reading here.
>One of the few video games of genuine artistic merit
>WAAAAAAH I HATE BORING WALKING SIMULATORS WHERE IS BING BING WAHOO
I fricking hate gamers.
>One of the few video games of genuine artistic merit
Saying stuff like this just makes it seem like you have to disparage everything else to make it seem better. SH2 does some things very very well. So do other games. SH2 has some gameplay flaws and it's okay to admit that too.
My first time playing SH2 I struggled to appreciate it because I thought the gameplay was too bad to let me enjoy it much. It was only after replaying it and the gameplay becoming less of a factor when some parts of it hit me. It's possible OP is the same way.
There are only a couple of other games that go for (relatively) complex themes without bungling it.
>artistic merit
You also sound like you're from Ganker.
>artistic merit
Do you fricking kids only play videogames?
because muh depression abuse rape story, millennial tumblrites eat that shit up
captcha: wgay0
>I have to open the map to see where I am facing so I can walk in the right direction.
Agreed. They should have thrown in a GTA-style minimap with markers fr fr no cap.
No, there is just too much fog to see anything that is more than 2 feet from my face. If I am standing in the middle of a road, I have no idea whats around me. And if I can't see my surroundings, it's difficult to see where my character should go.
please never post here again because you sound like a moronic homosexual
Then hug the side of the road. Use whatever landmarks are available or street signs to keep track of where you are.
That's what I am doing.
Why so butthurt?
It's almost like a heavy fog IRL that you can only see a few feet ahead of you that hides a town is heavy and hard to see through...
you gotta jump off a bridge irl
thatll give you a bunch of extra lives and turn the game into dev mode
my cousin told me
Your cousin is a moron.
You are also a moron for believing him.
Grant?
>he doesn't know
Ah, thank you!
Now I can finally traverse the completely linear path down to silent hill without getting lost.
How do I unlock the Silent Instinct ability?
Put your level points into recon branch
"James! It's your cousin... let's go bowling."
>Is SH like an interactive movie?
No, it barely has any cutscenes and most of the time you're walking from locked door to locked door solving moronic puzzles.
Frick off moron.
It has a good story and elite aesthetics/atmosphere. people ultimately choose to focus on its strengths rather than eternally kevetching about the lost promise of more competent but still extremely mediocre 6th gen combat system that it might have been
*the more
OP is clearly bait but I have to say I do think the game is pretty over rated. The first hour or so is god tier but then you realize most of the game takes place indoors in identical locations and theres only 1 type of enemy. The pyramid head boss fights are fricking trash too.
Theres a lot to like about it but the first game is way better.
>first hour or so is god tier
wtf? it took me like 40 minutes to drag the slow af character into the apartments and you are telling me that was the best part?
Even though you’re clearly baiting, if you haven’t “got” Silent Hill 2 by the apartment then stop playing: it’s not for you. I can’t believe someone can genuinely come on /vr/ and complain about fog, in a horror video game, being too thick that they get disoriented and lost without a scrap of self awareness of what they’re typing as they do it.
The Silent Hill games were never big because of their gameplay. They were big because they did horror correctly and, for the time, were something completely new. Your options for horror back then were basically Resident Evil or Silent Hill. SH focused more on horror while RE focused more on survival gameplay.
SH2 still has a very good story but OP is too much of a moron and dickhead to get something with some nuance to it and it's clear he's already hostile towards the game.
I want to make a joke about you being “hyperbollock” but im too tired.
It really baffles me how many people are butthurt because of this series. Isn't it supposed to be popular with normalgays? And it's not like with Zelda when only Ganker and /vr/ are absolutely mindbroken by it and consider it the worst shit ever, most people on the internet outside of Ganker consider SH to be 'clunky, boring and outdated'
Why are jannies allowing obvious bait threads?
anons, if you have nostalgia for sh and sh2 soundtracks, i wrote an album inspired by that era
You wrote this? Like actually, on your own? What the frick?
This is really goddamn impressive, anon. Ambient horror is a genre that I have a soft spot for.
I was listening to this last night before I even saw this post. It's good stuff.
Not bad.
OP here. Only played SOTN and one igavania on GBA I think. SOTN was pretty dope. Awesome soundtrack. I know you boomers like NES castlevanias more but I just didn't like how they looked.
The latest in
>What were they thinking????????????
threads about good games. Nice.
nta Your insecurity is showing.
OK :^)
you have yet to post any valid criticism
Walking simulator with being shit at walking as stated in OP
Need to check map every other minute to see where you are at because can't see shit.
Shit gameplay. Collecting keys and keeping track of locked doors. WOW BEST PS@ GAME EVER
Pinata simulator combat
So I see you've only played the first 5 minutes of the game and needed to make a sweeping statement about the whole game and didn't talk about much of the story, combat, different levels, mechanics, etc. What are some better walking simulators for the PS2 that you can recommend?
However, the fog effects are utilized to hide the poor draw distance that the hardware can't really handle, especially in PS2 titles. See any Dynasty Warrior games of that time.
I would be embarrassed to ship a game with enemy AI as bad as SH2.
Looks like your average arcade AI.
You have to do slow clunky attacks and actually damage him there to end the fight and he's faster on higher difficulty levels.
eternal darkness was better
>he eventually admitted he made the series up as he went along
not relevant to thread as SH2 was completely detached from SH1/3's story and had different "lead devs" and directors (which makes me think you didn't play it and you're just spouting kneejerk opinions)
From what I watched on SH2 behind the scenes video the director had a pretty clear vision from the start, and from what I played in the game it is pretty coherent artistically
>The best part is all the fan theories were crushed by the lead dev on Twitter
Doesn't matter - even if he did there's also the "Death of the author" angle to interpreting. Making up theories and analyzing story is fun in itself
>Muh 2Deep4U
Symbolism in the game is pretty easy to read if you're not a moron
I played the game 100% and although it is sometimes tiring to go through I think it's fully worth it - think of the movie Revenant - sometimes tiring out the audience is intentional
You want my honest opinion instead of appealing to the oldgays? Alright, it's like I said in the other post. I hate inventory management and backtracking in games; that's why I hate RE, too.
I actually liked the story in SH2. The problem is that you could cut out the gameplay and you would lose almost none of the story. You can tell that James feels guilty for killing his terminally ill wife, and the entity that controls Silent Hill decided to lure him in and punish him for it from watching the opening and ending cutscenes. That's not good enough to be a game, a movie, or even a short story, and it only gets the level of praise it does because most gamers don't have the attention span to read a book or sit through a movie
>I actually liked the story in SH2. The problem is that you could cut out the gameplay and you would lose almost none of the story.
I'd argue that you would lose a big part of it, James's journey IS part of the story, and your actions actually influence how guilty or not guilty he feels and what he decides to do in the end (endings are all determined by how the player feels about Maria and Mary) - the entities you see, the dialogues with characters you encounter do serve to explain and expose the plot.
>That's not good enough to be a game, a movie, or even a short story, and it only gets the level of praise it does because most gamers don't have the attention span to read a book or sit through a movie
Have to agree, but this is the case for ALL games - No matter how good a story in a game is a book/movie with the same story will always be better, it's always a compromise between gameplay and story which always ends up hindering one or the other - if you really want to focus on a story, just make a book/movie.
My favorite game of all time would be Deus Ex, which I feel has a decent story and manages to balance it out well with the gameplay - but the praise story of DX1 gets always makes me laugh because books/movies made 20 years before it blow it the frick out of water - hell, those books even crush modern 100% QTE games from Naughty Dog - no matter how innovative a game's story is books already did it ages ago
DX1 in fact is just a mash of conspiracy theories that only feels good because it feels alive in the game - you can uncover the lore at your own pace through newspapers, datacubes, eavesdropping on characters - it just meshes well with gameplay - if you took the gameplay out it's a shitty sci fi flick that would be published in a pulp magazine and be forever forgotten.
>Have to agree, but this is the case for ALL games - No matter how good a story in a game is a book/movie with the same story will always be better
I disagree. I think it's because people defend mediocrity like the Silent Hill series and utter garbage like Uncharted that the standards keep getting lower.
What post apocalyptic story or movie is like Fallout 1? I've read quite a few of them and I've never seen one that focuses on society rebuilding
>"Death of the author"
yawn
You're yawning because you need to breathe more. Behold - your intention no longer matters under subjective interpretation.
Silent Hill 4 themes are deeper than SH2.
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there’s still hope if someone can think this and write this. thank you. made my night
I was just gonna call OP a homosexual and move on with my life but I thought I'd try to be funny instead. Thanks for the kind words anon.
it’s genuinely scary in a way where you can feel dread from the sounds or the threat of pyramid head or the unknown of going out into a dark area. few games have ever been able to pull this off as well, and so effectively that t can make you feel afraid even playing it a second or third time. i was freaked out playing this during the day when it came out. played it repeatedly over the years and still get creepy vibes. that in itself is a thing that can make a game memorable, that it has a real effect on you. scarier than any movie i’ve seen. not for everyone. just a game. whine elsewhere, dork
>it’s genuinely scary
Nowhere in the OP did I say it wasn't. I only criticized the gameplay.
And if the gameplay is shit on purpose, to make you more scared, it is like admitting the game isn't scary on its own.
I was playing STALKER before starting SH2 and that feels more scary even if there is broad daylight, no fog, inventory better than the military, and your character being able to see clearly while having full control of camera and walking at normal speeds.
Why do insufferable homosexuals make moronic threads?
Calling it a walking simulator is bullshit. Combat might be clunky but exploring, fighting enemies, solving puzzles, and conserving and managing healing and resources is all functional and fairly enjoyable.
The real draw is of course the atmosphere, the story, the music, etc.
>bUt whY iSN't iT A MOviE tHEn?????
Because the "decent" gameplay servers to immerse you in that atmosphere. It's something only games can do.
Semi unrelated but personally I think Silent Hill 1 had the best gameplay. I really like all the "running away from hordes of monsters in the open town" areas. The tank controls feel more natural and make more sense in those scenarios where you're just jogging to save your life, and Harry has some nice nuances to his movement like stumbling if you hit a wall, which both makes it feel very kinetic and also adds to the gameplay. That being said I don't think any of the Silent Hills are bad gameplay-wise, though the gameplay is never quite as good as Resident Evil's resource-management dungeon-routing or Fatal Frame's actually twitchy but still scary combat.
having seen one of lynch's lesser films doesn't make you elite, you know
>walking simulator
Are you from Ganker? Because only Ganker is stupid enough to call EVERYTHING a "walking simulator".
>af
the state of /vr/
>you don't hear much about it's god awful combat
the combat is supposed to be limited and shit. You're not supposed to go around the town killing everything with ease, many games fall down this path and it diminishes the horror aspect. You're mainly supposed to avoid combat and only use it when you need to, that's also why ammo is pretty limited from what I remember.
>terrible bosses
what about them is bad?
>long ass walking simulator segments
the entire game is a walking simulator, that's literally the point. You're supposed to explore the town and take in the atmosphere while searching for things. This is like complaining a point and click adventure game has too much clicking.
The story is also unironically kino and I prefer it much more over the generic le evil cult aspect of the other games.
There's no cult, just your thoughts and the town.
The combat is worse than it is in 1 because 2 has pretty much the same enemy type throughout the entire game.
>and I prefer it much more over the generic le evil cult aspect of the other games.
I don't know why fans of 2 can find depth and symbolism in everything but not see past the cult in the other games. The cult just ties everyone and everything together. 1 has just as much symbolism and depth to it. Alessa's story is tragic and barring the obviously supernatural stuff not impossible.
Summing up the other games as le evil cult is the same as someone saying 2 is just magic therapy town. Both claims are stupid and just make you seem like you have a grudge against the other games for daring to take away attention from your personal favorite of the series.
I don't hate the other games, I just prefer horror where the threat isn't something you can properly conceptualize. That's why even in movies like the first alien, the threat is off-screen for 90% of the film and it's mainly your imagination running wild. The second game is very similar, but there's no actual larger threat other than the town itself your thoughts. This is also why 2 is very much a standalone game. It's more of a spin-off type situation than it is an actual part of the larger story.
>I don't hate the other games
Saying that 2's story is kino and the rest are "le evil cult" is disparaging and dismissive. It's fine to have a favorite and I know the Reddit Hill 2 shitposter stirs up trouble but you don't need to put the other games down to have a favorite either.
Anyway, the cult is there and present in the other games but there's still so much other stuff happening that it's more of a personal problem if you can't see anything else. If so many fans of SH2 didn't need to put down the other games for daring to have something different about them then maybe more people would be able to appreciate that. All of the characters in the other games go through things that mirror real world tragedies and not being able to see that is a shame.
What an abhorrent garbage thread. OP needs to be executed by firing squad for making such trash.
For having an opinion about something?
sh2 was the best sh game of any sh. It was a good game and could be beaten bing bing wahoo in one night's play through. That game provided untold inspiration to other developers.
Never forget. Pyramid head can only kill himself. You cannot.
ooooooo soo spoopy
He factually added spooky to the game and I think when the game gets 2spooky4u that's when people get put off by le walking simulator.
>Pyramid head
What's next, skibidi toilet?
Ganker thinks they killed Pyramid Head with bullets and defeated mental illness! WEEEEE!!
.....There are puzzles in the game. In fact some of them are really good. I remember good ones in SH3
Frick outta here m8
I genuinely love walking around in the dark with a flashlight. Flashlight simulators are one of my favorite genres.
Fleshlight simulators are one of my favorite genres.
>haha he said flashlight so I will say fleshlight
>>the combat is supposed to be shit
Since James is an ordinary man with no special weapons training, his skill is marginal. His accuracy with weapons is questionable, especially with long-distance attacks.
>Since James is an ordinary man
Why does he walk so slow? Is he a cripple as well?
He walks at a normal pace.
You can make him run, but he gets winded and slows down.
>but he gets winded and slows down.
no, team silent would laugh if you said this, it's clearly just badly designed, he was never meant to slow down!
- the schizo poster probably
That's a quote from the game manual of Silent Hill 2.
James is a special forces guy like Chris Redfield and should run around killing everything with precision
A dude who sucks at fighting might make the game more tense but the monsters would have to be smarter than your average 8 bit platformer enemies for that to work. They're all just as moronic and gimped as James though.
>the braindead monster AI was also done on purpose
h-he's just afraid of women legs!!!!! monsters are imaginary!!!!!!
Silent hill 2 is great, I enjoy it a lot
meant this post I made
3 has always been my favorite SH game so I don't really mind the "reddit hill 2" meme, but what bothers me about this thread is the arrogance and sheer moronation of the OP. This kid reeks of Ganker brainrot, typing in nothing but Ganker memes while arrogantly claiming that something is or isnt a game based on his own personal shit tastes. I genuinely enjoy walking around in the dark with a flashlight, only fighting when necessary, but to OP that is bad gameplay, and is somehow a reflection of my tastes and IQ. I don't understand why enjoying flashlight simulators is a bad thing, when they are mostly about atmosphere. If I want to shoot stuff I will play a shooter, if I want to play an action game, I will play an action game. If I want to wander around in the dark with a flashlight, I will play a flashlight simulator. OP you would do yourself a big favor by getting off the internet for a while.
OP here.
In your long ass paragraph, you yourself called SH2 a walking simulator several times but you were ok with it and loved it. Why did you think me calling SH2 a walking simulator was a blasphemy while you are perfectly ok with calling it the same.
I am not the guy who is calling SH2 "reddit hill 2". I just said the gameplay was shit. I haven't finished the game so can't really comment on the story or the "artistic merits" you stans have been raving about. I have a hunch he is right.
Kys ban evader
>long ass paragraph
>adhd zoomer status: confirmed
SH2 is a flashlight simulator and I love it. I just don't like your tone you dumb fricking Black person moron.
well said
sh2 is not bussin no cap frfr!
>1 line
>>long ass paragraph
kys phoneposter
why do you type like a n-word?
Boring supernatural cultgays be seething over chad kino oneiric horror of SH2
I like em all actually
Why do they refuse to update it for modern gamers like SH2?
Catboy if you are seeing this on your pee cee you need to lay off the white claws.
Frick off zoomer