Why the frick are indie devs so moronic and wasteful with their time and resources?
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Why the frick are indie devs so retarded and wasteful with their time and resources?
Why the frick are indie devs so moronic and wasteful with their time and resources?
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These b***hes deserve replacement for their politics.
How will any this translate to sales? (protip: it won't.)
>muh sales
lol frick off.
wow i suppose you're fine just doing shit for free them without anything coming back to you in return, lmao. fricking slave mentality.
>uhh me just do it cause uh.. me wanna people to play and be fun uh... lol.. i'm homeless now cause i wasted the last years only working on this thing expecting it to blow up in sales but it didn't.... omg what the frick do i do now.... all that good cheer and media presence shit won't save me now.....
You don't want to create games you want to create a product.
you can do both you moronic homosexual
lol you're just stamping out rubber dog shit. You don't give a frick about your game. Get fricked.
>unless you starve to death in order to deliver me the thing i want for no incentive or moron at all, you didn't make it with love or care
Black person just have a nice day, holy shit. you don't deserve anything.
I didn't say that you fricking idiot. I'm not going to accept your shitty "product" homosexual.
as if some of your favorite games weren't created to be "products" and took shortcuts for efficiency purposes. like the 100 different N64 games using the exact same cobble stone texture. they obviously didn't give a frick about the game eh? if they actually cared, they would have commissioned an artist.
ok homosexual then hire artists to replace that art instead of doing it yourself for free
>Muh stolen artwork
Eat shit.
>"technology that's used to REPLACE artists"
>uses digital editing tools instead of hiring a painter
hmmm
>I dont wanna use technology because it replaces artists
>does it himself instead of hiring an artist
i dont get it, you literally changed nothing. you started out not hiring an artists and ended not hiring an artist, the total number of hired artists has not changed.
You are making your game solo, this is literally what AI was designed for
>using AI at all
cringe and soulless bugman
>being such a shitty artist that you are replaced by this
artgays sure do have terminal brainrot
you fricking morons. it's for a fricking free doom mod. who cares if he does it? there's no "sales"
I don't see how whether or not someone spends money on this makes it any less moronic
>who cares if he does it?
literally no one, that is the point. he is being a virtue signaling homosexual over nothing
Kek
>uh well actually I was doing it anyway but I twisted the story to virtue signal about it
>NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST HAVE PRINCIPLES, YOU NEED TO BE LE PRODUCTIVE AND ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY
have a nice day you worthless homosexual
>my principle is that i like to waste time and money for the sake of moralgayging online for instant gratification
Yeah you don't give a shit about your game. We get it.
But the dumb c**t still used AI art as a reference.
Instead of using their own creativity to create and original work they copy what an ai generated. South park parody reality.
They used an AI paint filter on screenshots of their own game and are replacing that, you moron
huh?
doesnt look like it
the ai paintovers would match and replace the original but the hand drawn windmill is positioned differently which looks like he just traced over, poorly at that
>AI fricks something up
>"This is your fault"
AI sloppers are cultists
so just fricking change the assets
why do they gotta go prostitute for attention about it on twitter?
>muh stolen artwork
My friend blew up at me over this inane bullshit just the other day.
NOOOOOOOOOO AIBROS HE'S BETRAYING US!!!!!
this is moronic but using AI at all is even more moronic so he's essentially double moronic.
>using AI at all is even more moronic
Why?
The imperfections of the human artist is what breathes life into art/anything.
Acting like modern art is worth anything better nowadays.
a curious thing to post on what's ultimately an art appreciation forum
This is foolish scope-creep that leads to the ballooning of labor and expense. Imagine if a movie or tv show refused to settle for cheap Ikea furniture in the background of throwaway shots and instead insisted on hand-made craftsman furniture. Using AI for background prop generation is smart. Devs already lean heavily on algorithmic and generative design for a lot of stuff (no artist is going through and hand-designing all the branches on every tree, or the layout of every single tree in a scene.) I can't wait for this to be even more widespread.
>MUST PRODOOOOOCE MORE CRAP, FASTER
have a nice day, you're not manifacturing a commodity when making art
>teehee that'll be $70 plus tip
>please understandu, our $320,000,000 budget and 8 year development cycle demands this price to ensure ROI
>To ensure high sales we must also cater to the widest possible demographic.
Ironically enough that leads to more homogeneity and vapid soulless bullshit than an AI could ever generate. But go cry on twitter about the death of art you troon, as if your comfortable modern life isn't the product of hundreds of efficient automations scaffolded atop one another.
>I'm going to replace all the AI art that is REPLACING REAL ARTISTS
>No I'm not going to commission an artist to make the assets I'm just going to doodle some shit
>doodle
nah, he clearly traced over the AI
>OP desperately trying to drum up a personal army.
Frick off, moron. We're not your lapdogs.
there's no 'we' Black person
>Actually I *AM* OP's little b***h who will jump when asked!
What the frick happened to this place?
shut up troony
You homosexuals are terrible at this. At least try instead of being lazy.
you spineless homosexuals are why Ganker isn't even a threat anymore
Stop trying to amass a hugbox every time the popular consensus is against you. You are unpopular for a very good reason and it is because no one likes being with jerks, change your views or be alone.
>You are unpopular for a very good reason and it is because no one likes being with jerks
man what the frick happened to this website lmao
You just need a reality check my dude. Go talk with people who aren't lonely antisocial cynics. Regardless of how justified you feel your argument is, you'll realize that everyone fundamentally hates wealthy people stealing shit from the middle/lower class without compensation. Not just in AI art, but in politics, charities, etc.
>Go talk with people who aren't lonely antisocial cynics
what the FRICK happened to this website
You clearly weren't even here for it you fricking moron tourist.
Nothing about this is fun. Same thread every day. At least the crazy stuff I saw back in the day was original.
thinking AI will replace artists is like thinking photobashers would replace artists
It's already doing so in advertising.
Why is money the lieral only leg you AiBlack folk stand on?
We don't care, art was never just to make a profit. It's the world that made a talent profitable based on demand, and has been like this since the invention of the wheel and discovery of fire. It has, to this day, not replaced anything and people are capable of doing what they like to do without money being the incentive.
Problem is people need money to survive. You can't just choose to opt out of the rat race.
>art was never just to make a profit
Yet you ziggers only draw what's currently popular, porn or otherwise, for patreonbux and cooomissionbux. You think people can't see you fricks abandoning things you started off drawing and chasing trends while doing such shady things as hiding the full version of a picture, at a resolution greater than what was standard in 2002, behind a paywall? Frick you.
None of you gave a shit when physical laborers lost their actual jobs to automation.
Your headcanon isn't reality, Rajeesh. I only draw what I like.
Low tier freelance artists WILL get replaced by AI. The only survivors will be the established artists and the ones capable of consistent work output
You've been posting this for 2 years now. It's not happening.
2 years ago AI wasn't viable. It is now and it will continue to become more sophisticated and variable
>It is now
....Its not though. Its worth pointing out the people who actually create good looking things with it, are a very small number of people. 99% of its user just create generic garbage
Welcome to the free market 🙂
They are being replaced, you have to be delusional to think otherwise, artists and writers are expendable now, even fricking Ubisoft used AI for their new AC game ad.
good frick them
Draw for passion or not at all
Plus, wizards of the coast just laid off a few hundred artists after Magic had its most profitable year ever
>get a dream job drawing fantasy bullshit for your favorite card game
>draw Black person aragorn and make tom bombadill's wife fat in the lotr series for the sake of muh representation
>it sells more than any other set ever, because lotr
>still get fired and replaced by bing
Pottery
>implying this is due to AI
Corporations the world over will make record profits then fire hundreds of employees.
>draw Black person aragorn and make tom bombadill's wife fat in the lotr series for the sake of muh representation
deserved. have some standards next time.
Yeah now were just going to get AI homiergorn. What an improvement you stupid frick.
It's because of insufferable morons like this that I fully support AI art
indie games are an individual's passion project by nature, they're not the same as the souless slop you enjoy consuming on the regular
There's something hilarious about the fact that all artistic types thought automation was only coming for manual work and were all supportive of it, then it turns out art is one of the first things to go in the machine new world order and suddenly it's immoral.
>nooooooo the printing machine will kill the kings and queens and the J00S
>180s
>this time will totally be different x9000
Most of those "artistic" types were completely oblivious to the fact that they're 100% disposable. Being able to create committee designed corporate approved globohomosexual pieces in the same style as everybody else from your generation doesn't make you unique or valuable. Of course an AI is going to be able to do just as good for cheaper.
That applies to essentially every profession.
A mechanic doesn't think he's some special unique unicorn because he can flush a transmission.
>-ACK!
BECAUSE IT LEAVE ME WITHOUT A JOB YOU STUPID FRICKING SHIT HEAD FRICK YOU I'M GONNA STARVE TO DEATH DO YOU HAVE NO EMPATHY AT ALL YOU PSYCHOPATHIC b***h????
Remember "Learn to code"?
Artists never said that. You're just making shit up.
just learn to make 3d models bro
there I said it
now get bent homosexual
You mean the thing journalists and STEM people said?
>NOOO I HAVE TO LEARN NEW THING IM LITERALLY moronic OH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO
>dude just use AI shart even though it's fricking ugly.
So there is no problem besides you not liking the way it looks?
Don't try to make money off of ones and zeroes that can be infinitely replicated at incredible speeds then
That applies to all software in general.
That's what I unironically believe, yes
I'm just so done with copyright
I hope once the industry cracks down on generative AI and begins selling pricey licesnses to prompt, art trannies and prompt chuddies will unite against the true enemy of free expression - copyright lawyers
>the true enemy of free expression - copyright lawyers
so Disney basically
>DO YOU HAVE NO EMPATHY AT ALL
Why would I have empathy with some stupid b***h?
If the last 3 years have shown anything then people who share the popular opinion are some of the most moronic people on earth and deserve everything they get.
You probably did something to warrant it anyway.
that's funny, I don't remember you bourgeois art morons complaining about this when blue collar workers started getting replaced
Hmm that is a big problem. Maybe the government should set up some kind of work camp for ex-artists.
it is unethical because it no longer tells the truth about why m*norities are subhuman filth to be killed for pleasure, and why foids must be beaten and raped thrice daily for the crime of breathing
The real reason is because it steals people's work and profits off of it. It would be understandable if it were trained from royalty free art, but instead it uses a bunch of data stolen without consent to make a profit from people.
The people getting paid for making AI tools or services aren't giving a cent to creators for it, and it rubs people off the wrong way.
Explain how a machine learning what things look like by examining millions of images is any different from a human learning how to draw by looking at millions of images. They're not storing every image they used for training in the model's database.
So you also believe piracy is stealing?
the problem is when a technology ultimately replaces something, governments and institutions are slow to transitition.
Coalminers seethe because their dangerous labour can be done by cold unfeeling heay machinery with little oversight
Factory workers seethe because their braindead labour can be done with robot arms given specific instructions
Indians seethe because automated call systems can do their jobs and sound white at same time
Automation will eventually replace the human element in anything that in theory runs like clockwork. The only thing left humans will be able to make a living from is hospitality (nursing homes, tourism, restaurants) and social media.
>Social media
There's already AI influencers
As there should be. Those "people" are fricking robots
It's less that it's unethical, and more that it gave the countless third-worlder ESLs on this site another means of shitposting and polluting threads with rushed slop.
AI is unethical because it steals. Nobody would have a problem if it was using datasets it owned but it's not. If stockphoto fed all their shit in and made a stock photo generator people would be cool with it. But when autists dump all their waifu porn into it from a million artists and pump out shitty porn then of course people will be mad. They're trying to make money selling their shit and someone is stealing it to replace them. You'd be mad if the gay across the street living in his RV was hooked into your power and water wouldn't you? Same shit.
Art don't belong to their author - Art and artist are separate things. Any form of art is an idea, a message that you want to share with the world and it should be open for everyone to modify or use. If you disagree with this you basically don't understand the concept of art.
Intellectual property is a spook
Only if you're a shitskin turd worlder. In civilized countries, you can't just use what I've created without my permission.
you don't create anything tho
>b-but you-
So what? You still can't just steal shit, brownie. Do they not teach you that in school?
>what I've created
>creates nothing
Im going to stop listening to you but have fun being mad
nothing
I'm not an artist, nor do I even pretend to be one either, unlike AIshitskins
>being mad
You're being ridiculed here, jeet.
>Intellectual property is a spook
Mate IP is just ideas, but literally downloading my art and using it is actually using my art. No 'muh style' about it. You're literally taking my shit and reworking it. Musicians need to credit people they sample, AI should be regulated the same, especially when it's entirely just stolen images. There's no intelligence involved, it's just a database of collated stolen images it spits out collages of swiped shit. It's a legal minefield.
>Mate IP is just ideas, but literally downloading my art and using it is actually using my art.
Yeah. And?
>Musicians need to credit people they sample, AI should be regulated the same,
None of it should be regulated. You can't "steal" information
>None of it should be regulated.
Must suck living in a shithole, huh?
>Insecure Hispanic can't read
Many such cases. I said "should be", which applies everywhere
No, it "shouldn't be" you dumb Black person. Create your own shit or ask the permission to use other people's works. Don't want to do any of it? Then have a nice day.
No I think I will keep using your shit. It's not like there's anything you can do about it.
Enjoy gulping down my shit in your basement then, since that's what you enjoy it seems.
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING, GOYIM
Right on cue, fellow merchant.
israelites are the biggest proponents and beneficiaries of intellectual property laws
AI devs never got consent from people they trained they AIs on.
Sampling work without crediting everything it was trained on is basically small scale theft, but done millions of times every time.
Do real artists who learned drawing by coping, tracing nd looking at the other artists works also credit them all every time they draw something themselves?
An artist as the ability to "look" and "mimic." Their art is tempered by their actual personal skill and the movement of their physical hands. A computer only has the ability to "copy and paste." Unaffected by things like personal skill. This is a terrible argument.
>only has the ability to "copy and paste."
You don't understand how machine learning works even on superficial level. Literal troglodyte of digital age.
>Unaffected by things like personal skill.
It's being affected by prompter's skills.
>It's being affected by prompter's skills.
oh yes, the true test of skill of typing a sentence. frick off.
>wall in the city
>see some street artist drawing anything you want
>describe him what you want
>artist has to draw your pic based only on words alone
>the better and more detailed your description, and the better artist at his work, the better the pic will be
Yeah, this never happens.
What happens when prompters, literally text data, are replaced by LLM's?
Work won't be done without any input from a human. Well, it can, but it will basically be a program running and generating "lol so random" pics, not the things you wanted.
You aren't going to an artist though, you're literally going to a machine that only knows to regurgitate. A person can do anything they want. A machine is a slave to its sample data.
>You aren't going to an artist though, you're literally going to a machine
I don't see the problem 😀
>A machine is a slave to its sample data.
A human is also a slave to the data they have storaged in their mind moron.
A human's mental image is shaped by time and their mind's eye. A machine literally has sample data stored. Getting real tired of your devil's advocate shit. A computer's sample data will never be as rich and varied as a person's life of experiences.
>A machine literally has sample data stored.
You don't know how AI works.
Explain it to me. Or just admit you don't either.
>A machine literally has sample data stored.
AI are machine learning models that are trained in a sample data of images, and words/prompts associated with it. Then when you want to generate an image the model look at all the relationships between the words and the data trained and starts generating the image, starting with random colors on iteration 0
That training is kept on file. It is literally referencing the art it was trained on. Same fricking thing.
>dude it's just recreating what's it's trained on
lol
It literally is.
> it's just recreating it it's not stealing it
lol
The images are kept in your memory. You are literally referencing the memory of the art you saw. Same fricking thing.
A human's perception is far more flawed and subject to personal bias than a FRICKING MACHINE YOU DISHONEST SACK OF SHIT.
>add artificial flaws to the training process to make the trained data more 'faulty' and occasionally 'misremembered'
>randomize a 'bias' to add more or less of a certain extra input when interpreting its trained data
now what? B-B-B-BUT THAT D-D-D-DOESN'T C-COUNT?
>Push the Poojeet hard enough and they start defending censored corporate bias models as "artistic intent"
What did they mean by this?
AI does not store any of its sample data. It simply does not have enough parameters for that to be possible.
Oh that's great bro then it doesn't need to steal other work.
It doesn't steal. It finds patterns in the training data and parrots them (just like your brain!)
Referring to the corporation AI as a human brain is unironically a fallacy but you debate Black folk suddenly don't care as long as your prompt generated dopamine when you hit post
Even if you consider it stealing, an AI generated image is not the ""combination"" or a few images, its the combination of 50 thousand images or even more. So if your work was used to train an AI that actually represents like 0,000000001% of what its generated.
Neither will you, unless you live off your traditional art using materials you harvested yourself you’re a fraud.
The biggest irony of digital artists upset over AI is they use digital. Infinite undos, purchased digital paint brushes, photoshop filters, outsourced canvas printing. None of this is natural art, all aided by and enhanced by technology they could never reproduce in real life to the same quality. They would go bankrupt buying pencils without an irl undo function. They owe the machine their livelihood, AI is simply a tool for ideas guys and anyone seething over AI are projecting how much of a faker they are being reliant on digital to make half appealing art they can sell to some sucker 15 year old furgay with an autism allowance.
>unless you live off your traditional art using materials you harvested yourself you’re a fraud.
utter nonsense. what are you even saying? "The guy who harvested the hair of the camel is the real artist?" God you gays will say anything to deflect.
>A person can do anything they want.
He can't draw in any stile, only in what he learned. Besides, he's being told to draw the picture on description, not "anything he wants". It's his job to draw on verbal promts.
>A machine is a slave to its sample data.
Which is way bigger than any single artist can manage to learn, much less draw.
There's nothing intelligent about AI. It doesn't UNDERSTAND what it generates. That's how you end up with shitloads of obvious errors and garbage quality. And the fact that you can just flood the internet with this low quality trash adds fuel to the fire. I don't want to look at your cheap bootleg, et punctum. Call me back when they develop an actual artificial intelligence.
Buy an ad
Whats wrong with using AI for filler assests like a random painting no one is going to pay attention to?
I really don't want to see a lot of shitty ai art in aaa games just to save money
No, anon, you don't understand. Most artists are libs, and we must suffer trash media in order to hurt them. Eat the slop.
>i want every single thing in-game that i wouldn't even bother to look at most of the time to be made by hand
>no i don't give a shit that i might not even see it at all and just walk past it without caring about the textures in the environment or whatever
>I WANT EVERYTHING DONE BY HAND SO IT TAKES UP AS MUCH DEV TIME AND MONEY AS POSSIBLE OKAY?????
Yes, unironically.
If I wanted proc gen, I'd play a roguelike.
Yes
if it doesn't matter that no one is going to look at it, then why does it matter if it's made by human hands then???
because you waste development time and money "recreating" via tracing over what the AI already shat out for you
why the frick would you angry about this unless you're a shill?
Can someone explain how AI "steals" art more than someone posting on Wikipedia "steals" content from the articles they source?
Wikipedia (is supposed to) cite sources.
Image gen doesn't, and is harder to reverse search for plagiarism.
I'm an artist and I don't fricking care - artists that care about this are all selfish people that don't want to loose their job and don't understand the real meaning of art.
>The real meaning of art is jacking other people's shit and pretending you didn't.
I don't care about getting paid.
I care about subhumans like you wasting people's time.
Whats the real meaning of art?
>loose
AIjeets just can't blend in
>Image gen doesn't, and is harder to reverse search for plagiarism.
So if it's harder that implies it's original and thus not plagiarizing... If I draw inspiration from Mona Lisa to draw a portrait of my lover does that mean I'm plagiarizing it?
>Can someone explain how AI "steals" art more than someone posting on Wikipedia "steals" content from the articles they source?
>content from the articles they source
>they source
You literally answered your own question moron.
>Vermeer used the camera obscura
>he traced over it
Smart people using new technology. Dumb people not.
if tracing guarenteed good results, everyone would make good art
It's so blatantly obvious, that generated images even sometimes generate individual signatures/watermarks.
artists stealing, tracing and copying since the beginning of art. And now AI is bad?
98% of artists, especially digital artists, are just horrible drawing flesh AIs.
>Make the bad thing even worse with no benefit to anyone but CEOs and investors.
Ok. Why?
>artists stealing, tracing and copying since the beginning of art. And now AI is bad?
Artists/creators compensate and credit their influences, AI doesn't.
>Artists/creators compensate and credit their influences, AI doesn't.
Do you ever interacted with digital artists? It's a lying, witch hunting and backstabbing community. As long you not some big hotshot no one will credit you.
Again
There is no CEO in my room. There is no CEO sitting behind a 5 man indie project.
So you waste your time using AI instead of grabbing free assets online...why? If you care about quality or your personal touch, you would make the assets yourself. If you just want to get it out, you have free resources.
It sounds like you want to lie to your consumers and pretend you put in work you didn't.
>Do you ever interacted with digital artists?
Hate to burst your bubble, that's every community lol.
I get that you have a sour taste with them after you got canceled for e-girl/conservative stuff, but those niche communities are 10x more cruel than the left-leaning types if you rub them the wrong way. And let me tell you, it is very easy to piss people off unintentionally.
Let me guess, personal experience? Maybe don't be a Black person no one likes then maybe people will honor you, like how the japs honor the honorable and not Black folk. It's common sense.
Stop wanting the death of creators over your pettiness.
How disingenuous. When artists are caught stealing, they're scorned for it. It's not encouraged and it's a lie to pretend all art was stolen to level the playing field like AI art actually, genuinely is.
Ask me how I know you know nothing about how AI image generation models are trained and how they function.
If you train an AI model to recognize the image of an apple using 1 billion images of apples that all have "apple" written in the bottom right corner, then when you ask that AI model to create an image of an apple it's going to include the text. It's like a child that learns by pure rote memorization and never asks "Why is this here?"
by that logic any human artist that uses watermarks also "steals"
Not really, in some cases it literally perfectly duplicates the exact artist's signature when using their style.
<-- explained here why you are a moron
you've never picked up a brush in your life
You don't understand what art is homosexual. Imagine if einstein when he created theory of relativity said "you can't use my theory or you are stealing." just as moronic as your opinion.
you can't even grasp basic english, you can't even follow me through your train of thought beyond "IT JUST IS, OKAY?!", yet somehow i'm supposed to believe you know what you're talking about?
>no arguments
>insult my english skills as a ESL learner.
if you knew how to read english, you'd know my argument is that yours holds no fricking water because it's nothing more than a nebulous virtue at best
basically the ai models are trained by scraping millions of pieces of art from the internet at random without permission from the copyright holders. starving artists don't have legal recourse so they can't do shit without organizing a class action, so frick them. but it's also why you don't see ai models scraping every song on the internet since the company training it can't afford to be sued by music labels who have legal teams at the ready.
The funniest thing is that all art is stealing. Artists don't just pull creations out of their ass, they reference, trace, etc. AI employs the exact same techniques it just does them at a scale a human artist isn't capable of. AI is demystifying the mechanisms behind the sacred cow of consciousness and moron low IQ humans are throwing a "we wuz" tantrum.
We get it, you have 0 talent and can't even trace simple images yourself, so you run to AI to help your sorry ass.
>The funniest thing is that all art is stealing.
Nope. Even if they reference or trace, it is wonky.
AI art literally steals the art without permission and profits off of it.
>all art is stealing
Have you ever created a single thing in your entire life?
I made a poopy
>Artists don't just pull creations out of their ass
I mean, still life is a thing. You can literally paint things from reality and that isn't theft, unless you try to spin this as a "creation" thing. But if you argue that, I don't think God is struggling to be credited for his works.
Wikipedia cites sources
AI art tools do not
Claiming you created it is the problem. What about this completely gets ignored by you aishills?
Artists that "steal" from other existing data still created new information, not steals the very pixels from the source. AI is not recreating new information from a source, it's using the source directly and mixing millions of individual pixels from other sources together based on determined weights with zero intention as to how they come together. It's both direct theft of past data and randomness without intention, which goes against art on a fundamental level. Art isn't just "random colors that just happen to make sense". Art make sense and only can make sense by complete human control.
once again, zero understanding of how the tech actually works
lol it steals faces
If I tell the A.I. to draw Mickey Mouse, did it steal Mikey Mouse?
Intellectual property is a spook and the philosophy of art is irrelevant. The only meaningful intention to me is my own.
>Claiming you created it
Who are you quoting? Of course I didn't make it. I typed a command and an image popped out.
AI is trained on datasets which were never licenced for that purpose.
My eyes scrolled past an image but it's not explicitly licensed to remain in my memory in perpetuity
Am I required to punch myself and induce memory loss to avoid copyright infringement?
You are not intentionaly stealing anything even if you are later unconsciously inspired by it, but you should punch yourself for being moronic AI-loving Black person.
The argument is that AI can only work with the data set it has been given and a lot of them are still using copyrighted pictures without permission of the creators.
Theoretically, if you have a data-set that is only using pictures that are in the public domain or where the copyright was purchased by the owners of the AI company, there should be no issue, but they would still b***h because it puts them out of a job, at least the shit ones.
>Can someone explain the difference between making a painting and writing a wikipedia article
The level of moronation on this board had become unfathomable
AI is *still* something that can be used sporadically to add to one's toolset, the only thing that has changed is drooling morons with Twitter mentality reacting to it. And on that note, if I wanted to know what c**ts on Twitter were talking about I'd go there frick off OP.
No it's all dogshit and makes your game ugly.
Wrong, you're on the internet where you're seeing the bottom of the barrel stuff 98% of the time. Hell OP's pic is a good example, given the artstyle no one would've figured the paintings to be AI. They're small things that help devs in small ways that save time.
It's literally faster to grab royalty free stock images if you don't care about quality.
lol
lmao even
Yeah, exactly.
If you don't care, stock photos are easier.
>Yeah, exactly
There was controversy for that pic. AI will get you the same, less hassle and certainly no watermark
We've seen multiple products in AI controversy already, lying homosexual.
And none of them fit the example I'm giving, drooling inbred
lol I'd rather commission Kinkaid then use AI slop.
AI looks better. I will never understand the AI hate. Why should I take some horrible drawing over AI with some funny mistakes?
>indieshitters waste time and effort so they can get clout points for being against muh scary "ai"
>twittershitters waste time screencapping these posts and reposting them dozens of times on Ganker so they can get attention
>no Mr. Wilfred using photography to replace paintings is immoral because you are replacing the hard work of a painter with a soulless photograph and I will denounce you and your irk in the town hall if you keep supporting this
Kek
>Muh Camera
Cameras don't take images someone else already made, moron.
camera capture light from the environment and "steal" the thing someone else's eyes sees when it looks at something. man was supposed to experience things with his own eyes but instead you capture the views in a tiny little box then put it on a piece of paper and say you can somehow "experience" it by just looking at it. not the same thing. you just stole from God's creation.
Your ridiculous satire proves my point: using equipment to capture an image of an exact place and time by alternate means is not the same as taking other people's finished images and then bugging a machine with vague instructions until you like the composite it spits out.
It's like changing the opacity of an image in Photoshop, except you didn't even choose the opacity level yourself.
*photographs your painting*
nothing personnell, kid...
Yeah, this debate has been had. See: transformative art. Just taking someone's shit is theft. The new artist has to make deliberate choices and personally enact them to qualify as transformative. The vagueness and reliance on the machine to make choices for you disqualifies current AI image gen.
what happens when I use AI art but hand edit them to make them look more natural?
Again, transformative art debates go back decades. People are typically unkind to "WELL TECHNICALLY" Black folk.
You know what you are.
Do what you will, but don't cry when you're criticized.
>you know what you are
jesus christ bro, I was just asking a hypothetical question and you act like I'm from the dark side. You seemed knowledgeable so I thought you could provide some kind of insight into what could make an AI piece "transformative".
>the debate goes back decades
what do these debates say on whether editing AI art is or is not transformative, and at what point?
>people are typically unkind to
who cares about being kind? what does that have to do with anything?
Is tracing or coloring over a prompt okay? Who cares. The only answer you for that type of question is
>good artists borrow, great artists steal
You can spend your whole life "drawing from the heart" just for a better artist to steal your best ideas, refine them for the broadest appeal and make a killing while you starve.
>drawing from the heart
To add onto this, some of the most successful artists start by doing paintovers of photographs and then letting the creative process flow from there. You'll always have purists who insist on everything being done based on pure mechanical artistic understanding, but the truth is that the most successful and prolific artists are the ones taking as many shortcuts as possible.
Picrel.
this! and they using AI too. Never as a complete picture but as a step.
It's a crime against humanity how boring his game is.
Stålenhag was not amused. In a series of posts on Twitter, he said that while borrowing from other artists is a “cornerstone of a living, artistic culture,” he dislikes AI art because “it reveals that that kind of derivative, generated goo is what our new tech lords are hoping to feed us in their vision of the future.”
I'm sure artists in the Ralph Mcquarrie era look down on his use of digital photography + photoshop tricks to "cheat" through lighting, composition, and color palettes. After all, he's only using what the digital camera + his monitor feeds him in their artificial vision of the real world or whatever.
But I can't hate Stalenhag even if he's being a bit of a goober.
That's great. AI is still shit.
Probably, but at this point there's no putting it back in the bottle. I think the most successful artists are going to be the ones who use AI to generate tons of variants of a concept before choosing on one to render by hand.
Oh yeah. My go to argument for the purists is "well, did you make your own paint? Did you grow your own roses to grind into red paint? Did you harvest you own wood to make the paper and canvases? Did you burn your own firewood for your charcoal drawings?" Like anything else, you can play the purist game all day long. Its honestly fricking insane to see digital artists try to play that game. I once spend months grinding at digital art and when I returned to analog sketching I started trying to hit ctrl z on my sketch pad out of muscle memory and laughed at myself. Artists are spoiled by so many tools they take for granted these days.
>resize generated art
>correct colors for a limited palette
>fix tiling errors, if any
Looks like its mine now, too bad!
>Be Daft Punk
>Deliberately use samples from other people's music to use in your own with barely any changes
>Never credit the original artists' very hard work
>Make millions with no controversy
>Somehow AI is worse because a machine creating artwork that's vastly different than anything the original artist ever created, using their original works as a source rather than copying them wholesale, is now theft
Eat shit
use samples from other people's music to use in your own with barely any changes
credit the original artists' very hard work
Do you know anything about sampling or are you just making shit up.
There's a whole licensing process that needs to happen or songs like that get sued out of existence.
There are several albums from like a decade ago that had to be changed on rerelease even because the samples did not get legally cleared on the second pass
"AI" art is inherently transformative. The output is not a carbon copy of the original image. You can trace an image and color it exactly as the original and have it be less transformative than algorithmic generation. You're full of shit, and probably just panicking because you perceive a threat to your ability to not have a job and coast off paymetons subscriptions for your dogshit furry porn. homosexual.
Like the other anon said, pop musicians have been made rich off stealing samples and riffs from other musicians for decades. Every "swingpop" or whatever the frick genre that is song is just adding a shitty sounding electronic drum beat to something recorded between 1930 and 1960. Vanilla Ice's one famous song was built on stealing the opening riff from David Bowie's Under Pressure and playing it on loop. Somehow we're supposed to care and be concerned that someone who isn't an industry millionaire can use some software to generate a crappy picture just because every fricking subhuman zigger artist online has become a greedy prostitute who ONLY does art for money? Frick you and die.
The oldest story in human history
Did artists have this kind of reaction when cameras were invented
Humanizing AI-Art will be the next big thing in the art-world. I TELL YOU MAAN!
most people are not able to tell the difference between human expression and something collected by a machine. Art is a mirror of one self and most people see nothing on that level because they lack of empathy and self
This. AI haters hates AI but they should be hating people for not understanding the real meaning of art and self-expression.
yes, the current big thing in the art world is creating the prompts to create AI art.
We'll talk again in 5 years.
>most people are not able to tell the difference between human expression and something collected by a machine.
Because, subhuman, your kind are just the loudest and most moronic. Your kind are subhuman to the average person that CAN tell the difference.
Learn what self awareness is, or don't, you're subhuman after all.
mucho texto
what the frick is this thread. why are you morons getting mad about Golden Souls 3, it's a fricking doom mod, he can do whatever he wants with it. shut up.
>"AI art is plagiarism!"
>here's my new art piece btw
It's still using AI, all he's doing is drawing over it
If I'm being generous, MAYBE he eyeballed it, but the entire composition of the image is still from the AI... he's not actually adding creativity to the process. So what exactly is the point?
I'm an artist and I fully support AI, am I all alone?
I think some AI stuff is neat. AIgays are completely insufferable.
how brown is your skin?
As a gamedev I find this extremely moronic. AI version even looked better, which didn't prove the point of the gaydev at all.
>look guys I painted a self-portrait of myself instead of taking a simple photo with my phone OMG im so cool and "Artist-Friendly"
The boomer shooter/indie scene is full of morons
we had this thread last night, rakesh
bros, the answer is simple, the trannies are seething, the twatter crowd just needs something to be angry and unhappy about
Why do you even care, it's their own fricking game
Yes it may be garbage but just don't fricking play it, otherwise don't complain when the industry all looks the same
>AI stole from artists
>He traces over the AI
So he's still stealing by extension
If they wanna draw let em draw, it's not like I'm paying them or anything
have a nice day pajeet.
idk man, i just treat AI as tool like anything else for stuff. i wouldnt be surprised if some artists haven't already began to use it to fine tune shit or something, i know for a fricking furBlack person artists use it
>pencilpiggies worked into a seething shoot yet again
womp womp
Have you been praising your israeli and pooish overlords, AIjeet?
AI is a great tool to work with it
>be mediocre smut artist
>AI rolls out & starts producing results
>panic like everyone else
>actually give it a shot
>it's extremely limited in what it can do, struggles with multiple characters
>every time you want something that's out of the data set, you need to download extra stuff, even if the thing would be as simple to draw as a cylinder
>matching an art style requires someone to go over and train the AI again
>still ends up being wonky
>understand that it's just a dumb stupid algorithm, quit being scared
>figure out I can also throw my art into img2img to get a re-drawn version to get new ideas or ways to do stuff differently
>make shit up on Ganker
I'm serious, you can throw art in img2img with varying levels of denoising and you get versions that retain the characteristics while looking different
change models and you get yet another version
it's useful to learn off because it's like having someone re-draw your stuff, but you need to be careful of it because not only it'll reproduce your errors but it'll also add some new ones
Wow it looks like shit!
The point is not to grab the results and post them, but to use these as references/ideas and suggestions of how to do things differently
Depends on case to case, sometimes shit just won't generate correctly despite being simple for an artist
Top left is the original art
I kinda made a bad example tbh because Kelvin Hiu is already a great artist, so AI will just make it sloppy and worse
Top left looks the best and its not even close.
LORAS were a game changer tho
How do AIjeets cope with being dependant on their israelite and rajeesh masters? Do they not feel the shame that their precious AI's (which is just machine learning tech anyway) future is entirely dependant on these "people"? If they pull the plug the very next day, it's over.
Twitter
They are immensely scared of being called out and thrown to the wolves for using AI
Twitter is EXTREMELY autistic about it (and also fricking gay but what else is new?) to the point where even TRYING OUT a new AI model, as in, playing around with it, leads to stigmatization.
If you think Ganker is obsessed with autistic shit, you haven't seen these morons yet. It's hell and I absolutely hate that site.
I'm just glad that marketing on twitter is basically worthless or I'd have to go there more often.
>t. dev
I used AI voices for one of the animated stuff I'm working on right now but also actual voice actors (just the ones I couldn't find a proper voice impression for, I synthesized with AI) and I'm honestly wondering whether I should even mention it or not when I eventually release and post a trailer for it on Twitter. I get the impression no matter how much everything else in that thing I put effort into with the animations, actual voice direction I gave the actors, video editing etc etc will be swept under the rug and they'd automatically shit on me because I used AI voices in these small instances where I literally could either not find a suitable voice impression or nobody wanted to actually take up on the offer I was giving them.
>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah sure buddy.
get replaced, luddite LOL
>beta tester talking about being replaced
El mao the irony.
Damn it, /ic/ said we wouldn't be replaced. To not worry about AI and keep grinding. Fricking hell.
>this board is suddenly pro AI slop
Always was.
I was trying to google some shit last night and literally half the results were AI generated garbage.
We were always pro AI
You will never belong here.
t. leftist lud worshiper pretending he belongs here
You will never ever belong here. You will never create anything worth a value. You will never be an artist. Now go cope with your inferior toys that's existence at the mercy of poos and the israelites.
Delicious tears. More please.
>"Delicious tears" says the shitskin who's tech he shills here daily is 1 plug away from becoming obsolete
How does it feel to be a lazy homosexual with 0 talent and artistic output?
>even more whataboutism
Uh, akctually trannies support AIshit, pajeet.
Thank you. More tears please!
>"More tears" says the AIjeet that cries about how nobody takes his shit seriously
t. person-shaped thing who doesn't belong here
t. proof positive of why gatekeeping is a moral imperative
Seethe more chud you lost
being against AI is like being against internet published news. newspapers and magazines are dead because of the internet, but news reporting isn't. just like how the internet is a medium for news, AI is a tool for art, and it isn't going away
>being against AI is like being against internet published news
Completely correct? Internet published news are flooded by clickbait garbage and they should fricking die
yes
frick the dinossaurs and "artists" afraid of change
I welcome our new AI overlords
The idea that there isn't actual astroturfing going on is insane, we've known for years Ganker gets astroturfed
Just pay some dudes (bots) to blend in with actual morons and you're set, gptGanker was made in jest and I guarantee there's more capable stuff today
it's AI bots shilling for itself.
>ai singularity is just an endless shitpost
somehow this timeline got worse
>suddenly
Is this revisionism at its finest? When the frick has Ganker NOT been pro-the thing that makes Twitter morons seethe? Were you here when Futaba's VA went full schizo because someone used her voice to sing an internet song and instead of asking the dude to take it down she sent her Twitter cronies to flag the channel with triggered the Streisand effect and made the song be reuploaded in dozens of channels and for her to delete her Twitter account citing "le death threats"? Are you moronic on purpose?
>When the frick has Ganker NOT been pro-the thing that makes Twitter morons seethe
Back when no one even knew what Twitter was.
So waaaaaaaaaay before AI as a discussion topic was a thing unfortunately
haha
what did he see, bros?
my unzipping my wiener for him 😉
smart devs utilize AI if they can get away with it.
her post is an ad first and formost.
ITT low IQ Dunning-Kruger AI BAD morons who know nothing about how AI actually works, is trained, or produces images trying to act like they're authorities on the subject
Do you praise your israeli and shitndian overlords everyday for sca- I mean, blessing you with their mach- I mean, AI technology?
I'm just enjoying the new toys before they are inevitably turned against people by the government. There's not really anything else you can do about it.
Of course, as long as you understand what they are, I have no problems with it.
But look at these shitskins in denial. Are you praising to them daily or not?
are you praising indians by using the internet daily
>whataboutism already
You shitskins aren't even trying anymore, no wonder AIjeets are all braindead.
what about you take those trannies balls of your face and make a actual argument
seethe harder for me, luddite
>muh indians
not a argument
one thing these morons don't realize is that AI is a great tool for artists, first and foremost
It's like being a musician and crying about Fruityloops and thinking you're getting replaced
>one thing these morons don't realize is that AI is a great tool for artists, first and foremost
No it isn't lol, it fricks up a lot of stock images and you aren't able to reference stuff correctly because of it. You have to have the real object or animal in front of you now.
>It's like being a musician and crying about Fruityloops and thinking you're getting replaced
You should be learning music theory anyway.
You won't regret talking with people.
>m-muh stock images
remember my post in 5-10 years when your job consists of ordering a prompt and manually editing hands/fricked up parts and getting paid for it
so.. it's an amazing tools for artists?
it's as amazing of a tool for artists as macro inputs for competitive players
Ganker should create /ai/ to put all of this AI threads in one place. This AI thing is getting bigger on this site.
When I see threads with Peach holding deformed cats or some shit full of brownjeets spamming endless Spiderman and Elsa tier proompter slop I just feel like AI enables poos to post when it would've been better if they never did.
At this point, i dunno if USA winning the second world war was a success or maybe the biggest sign that USA would become insuferable in the future, and the excess of freedom is just wasted like this threads, man yeah it REALLY would have been better if they never did
wow, what an amazing VIDEO GAME thread
surely, this thread won't just be another catty war between circlejerking indians and morons who go into these threads expecting a real debate with these animals as if they haven't already made up their minds before the thread was even began, let alone before they even bothered to pick up a pencil
Yeah, i mean AI was used in the Moguri mod for FFIX but the thing is, after that. the developers polished every thing that the AI touched, people forget that human hands have to be present in the process of creation, and letting a machine do all the work is the most critical sign of mankind lazyness
Frick artists
I'm a programmer, they wouldn't bat an eye if AI replaced me first. Frick them
an entire generation of artists will have an existential crisis when they realize the vast majority of people take art at face value and do not care about where it comes from in the slightest
>WAAAAAH AI
>meanwhile actual good artists use AI to speed up processes while still applying their own technical work to refine it and make it good
ai only morons are morons but, the real money is enhancing your existing skills with it
this, AI is merely exposing how bad 99.9% of artists are since they are so uncreative that they can be replaced by some machine randomly generating slop
the only opinion to have on this subject is that if you got into art for the money you are moronic and deserve failure
If there is commercial demand for a skill and you have that skill, wanting to be compensated for it is perfectly logical.
>If there is commercial demand for a skill
yes which there clearly isn't for art, there's a reason the term "starving artist" exists
You live in a world that is completely filled with media being blasted at you from all directions. That media doesn't just appear out of thin air, people have to make it.
Shitty corporate graphics are not "art"
>those prosthetics
What can that even be used for?
ball cupping
>AIgays win and artists commit mass suicide everywhere
>AI has nothing but itself to train on now
>fast forward 10 years and all digital art is schizophrenic surrealist pieces created by machines taught by machines
it's like wishing for farmers to die because you can get food from the super market
>all the pre A.I. human art will stop existing...for some reason
>limited learning resources and stagnation good
ok rabbi
"limited" as in many billions of images.
Also show me an art style invented in the last 10 years since artists are supposedly preventing stagnation
>invented
lmao. you don't need to 'invent' an art style to progress. just look at what anime looked like 30 years ago and today, but I guess everything will look like current year moeblob from now on
>just look at what anime looked like 30 years ago and today
yeah Akira looks so much worse than today's anime right? Dumb zoomer
Half if not 99% of them are "shit" because they aren't generic anime waifu number e-5382052359832 which, ironically, is the literal stagnation you wanted to coom to and AI is literally just repeating.
AI Art is already self feeding.
People say this but forget that a lot of digital work requires active preservation efforts. Remember when everyone was panicking over ex being shut down a while back and all the potential doujin being lost to time?
?? Only the useless ones who give up and know they're not cut out for it will kill themselves.
Autistic people like Da Vinci for example wouldn't give a shit, he'd just continue to create, if anything, he'd find a way to research AI himself and further the progress on it by himself and coming up with a way to use it properly in conjunction with actual traditional art.
Da Vinci was a mutant and doesnt belong in the conversation at all. Art was only one thing he did, along with engineering, science and philosophy. All the greats are multidisciplinary and thats why paused drawing to learn programming and am now touching up hentai prompts to fill my porn game with.
It also ruins search results. "Dead internet theory" is real and already results in me having to set filters on google for anything pre 2022 if I want actual information.
Google is dead as a search engine mate. Universities actively tell students not to use it anymore. Its just shopping sponsors and ads as well as the ai problem. They recently do this shit thing where a gloss effect highlights an image for clothing and links to similar, its so fricking intrusive and shameless.
Yandex is your best bet.
>fabricating this schizophrenic scenario in your head
>actually comparing patreon prostituteS to farmers
>AIcuck doesn't understand what a hyperbole is
lmao go ask google- I mean ask chatGPT
>I-I'm just making hyperbole
>btw human art will DISAPPEAR unless you ban AI NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW PAY ME REEEEEEE
>Blue collars get replaced
>All the people who vote for open borders and mass migration have a laugh, hey remember South Park? "Dey took our jobs!" haha stupid fricking rednecks
>AI starts threatening these people
>[Artistic screeching]
But blue collars didn't get replaced, trades are some of the best paying career paths now.
Yes that's what he's saying
Leftoids were gloating about how AI and self driving trucks/work machines were going to put those nasty right wing blue collars out of work with malicious glee, mocking them with 'learn to code' and other such juvenile-level trolling
Then generative AI comes around and starts making cool pictures and the same leftists that clamored for AI to come and put [CURRENT_POLITICAL_ENEMY] out of work and home screech like skinwalkers because AI couldn't really replace the blue collars who keep civilization running, but it could quite easily replace low quality Patreon grifting porn 'artists'
Cool story bro
Karma's a b***h isn't it? Time to move out and get that McJob! Or sign up to go die for Israel.
Mmm, positively scrumptious. A third helping, please!
>to go die for Israel.
Considering how AI is basically owned by the israelites, you should take your own advice.
AI is owned by anyone with a decent GPU
The plug is in israelites' hands, whether you like it or not. You do not possess enough intelligence to make it better anyway, so you're completely dependant on them.
>The plug is in israelites' hands
What plug, dipshit?
>You do not possess enough intelligence to make it better anyway,
Actually the best projects are open source
The only malicious glee I'm seeing is stuff like this:
Look, I know you want actual humans to forget what leftoids like you said about how eager you were for percieved political enemies being made penniless and homeless by AI, but that's not gonna happen. You'll keep being reminded of it any time you cry about AI.
I never said shit. Stop letting culture war strawmen live in your head and try conversing with individual people.
REAL ART IS THIS.
ANY OTHER FORM OF ART USING TECHNOLOGY IS UNETHICAL.
AI is merely a course correction solving the issue digital media created, where all of a sudden anyone who knew which end of a pen to use could get a grift going drawing furry OCs and whatever the flavor of the month anime chick is. Now they are being displaced economically by AI slop, leaving just the actually skilled artists who still have value.
Basically AI only displaces artists that are visibly worse than even AI images aka bottom of the barrel pixiv and deviantart shitters.
>Sar do the needful and use the AI it is the future! AI do the needful and give forever gift cards which will be redeemed for good mornings and b***h lasagna! The artist paki benchod b***h got chode in the loo and I laughing because I work in the IT and the artist keep redeeming the gift card instead of giving me the card code.
>Sar
How exactly are poos supposed to be affording the graphics cards you need to run this shit?
They don't have to, they fricking use bing or pay for chatGPT, or host a Google collab, what is this moronation that you need a huge setup for it
As if an entire country of IT homosexuals can never get a GPU, either
>words words words words
i dont give a shit
I wonder if these gays even know how much strawmans like this just make people hate them more. You can smell the entitlement.
>PAY ME PAY ME PAY ME
the only honest artgay cope
Would you be fine with doing your job for free?
Nice false equivalence.
If you don't do the work, then why should you get paid? is the correct version
Yes morons, drawing is a job.
yes, and jobs get replaced as tech advance.
become a prompter instead, or be better than a computer.
Correct. And to get paid for a job, you must do the work. If you aren't doing the work, then why should you get paid?
>And to get paid for a job, you must do the work
And artists do that. But I bet you think proooompting is work too, and how you're totally an artist because of it.
>But I bet you think proooompting is work too
Common misconception by insecure artgays. AI doesn't make me an artist. It lets me make what I want without having to be an artist.
>Common misconception
Black person your shitskin buddies call themselves that, don't you start being obtuse all of the sudden.
Who are you quoting?
>And artists do that
False. You're entire cope is over the fact that artists are no longer being asked to do the work. Can't have it both ways.
Now try again.
>You're entire cope is over the fact that artists are no longer being asked to do the work.
?? People seek human art more than ever as the internet is getting flooded with garbage A"I" "art".
>What plug, dipshit?
Your revolutionary tech of course.
>open source
Lmao sure, totally have 0 connections to the israelites.
>?? People seek human art more than ever as the internet is getting flooded with garbage A"I" "art".
When cope devolves into delusion
>T-They're totally being replaced sirs believe me!!
Now THIS is cope. People hate you because you steal, your shitty toy is not good enough to replace even mid-tier artists.
>There is no plug
LMAO sure beta tester.
>But the great thing about open source is that anyone can fork it
We are both aware that you morons do not possess the intelligence to improve upon them. You are dependant on the israelites.
>You gotta believe me! I'm being super cereal!
You're not even trying any more
lol
lmao
>steal shit
>make gays mad
>"wtf why they mad??"
>antagonize them with replacing their jobs
>horrendously fail to do so
>"t-they're seething because we'll totally replace them teehee"
Still 0 proof of you replacing anyone with your shitty toys.
israelites own both. You are literally braindead. You would never be able to make any advancements in mach- I mean, AI tech yourself.
>make any advancements in mach- I mean, AI tech
Why do you keep saying this stupid line? Do you think people don't know it's machine learning, or are pretending otherwise?
>or are pretending otherwise?
Then there's no reason to call it "Artificial intelligence", right?
>still hung up on his delusions
Is this how you cope with your irrelevancy?
>bad faith posting
Don't be a sore loser anon
>Then there's no reason to call it "Artificial intelligence", right?
I suppose not, no. Other than "Generative AI" rolling off the tongue better tha. "Generative ML".
It's a marketing term you dumbfrick. That's the only reason it's called an AI.
Machine learning was coined in 1959 and has been a major subfield of AI ever since efficient backpropagation methods were found in the 80s. Read a fricking book sometime
There's nothing intelligent about your toy. Your overlords only care about you being a beta tester for their products and sweet, sweet investments.
ML researchers care about results, not philosophizing. If GPT can score high on a verbal intelligence test that's good enough for them.
Machine learning is a subset of the artificial intelligence field and the only one that isn't currently moribund. Expert systems and symbolic knowledge are dead.
>Still 0 proof of you replacing anyone with your shitty toys.
Then why are you crying about AI terkin yer jerb?
You seem to have a misconception here. israelites own capital. They do not code, they don't even know how. After all, it requires significant effort.
>your shitty toy is not good enough to replace even mid-tier artists.
You say this as you cry about being replaced. I take this as your admission to being a less than mid artist
>as you cry about being replaced.
You're confused. You're deluding yourself into thinking that you're replacing anyone with your soulless israelite-owned toy. People hate you because you steal their shit.
You're entire argument has been about how it's not fair that you're getting replaced. Don't backpedal mid thread just because you got btfo
That's because you can't fricking read you moron. All you've been doing since the resurgence of A"I" is to flood here with your dogshit "art" and gloat about how you're totally replacing artists.
It's not working, shitjeet. You will never be White.
>refuses to address being called out on contradicting himself
I accept your concession
>muh contradiction
Your entire toy contradicts itself with how its advertised to everyone. And again, you will never be White, no matter how much you try to pretend that you're one.
>Your revolutionary tech of course.
There is no plug
>Lmao sure, totally have 0 connections to the israelites
I mean, probably? But the great thing about open source is that anyone can fork it
>job
>The "It's just a collage!" theory.
It's so funny when people try to lampoon stuff they don't understand
>can't even decide if it wants to give the dude a harness or not
Hilarious how every single A"I" "art" just looks the same.
>people flock to default models and prompts
>wtf, it all looks the same!
literal skill issue
>all this virtue signalling for a homosexual Doom mod that's 5 years in production
kek
How is it any less stealing copying an artwork with your own hands?
>art this
>art that
>it's always just a piece of drawing
should be called "drawers"
I would be with these homosexuals if they were against automation in the workplace from the get-go and not just as soon as it affected their bourgeois contrivances
Why the frick do you guys think it was random artist on twitter being against automation and not the companies who also would be supporting AI to save money and increase profits? Where is this line of thinking originating from?
This is literally just having envy of AI.
AI CREATE BETTER STUFF THAN YOU JUST ADMIT IT AND STOP CRYING. IF ITS BETTER, ITS BETTER. THE EFFORT AMOUNT YOU PUT ON YOUR WORK DOESN'T MATTER IF THE RESULT IS SHIT AND AN AI CAN DO BETTER
>>>reddit
even if i don't have the power to turn on country flags for a single board, i genuinely wish i was a mod just this once to see the IPs of every pro-AI user itt
>steal digital properties and don't pay rent
holy frick
im not listening to what an lgbtq cult member has to say about anything
>when the model goes too "boy" on the "muscular tomboy" prompt
maybe tomboys are gay after all...
while a group of leftists are screeching about how AI is the devil there's another trying to infiltrate and make it pozzed
>everyone shat on things like artists, streaming, etc. for not being real jobs
>suddenly AI shit happens and people are up in arms and considering the aforementioned things as jobs now
>just making shit up
Why are AIgays so spiteful and insecure?
AI will replace you. We need less people in this world and my glorious automated future needs less people for it to become a reality.
Why not just have a nice day?
How the frick can I enjoy my future if I'm dead? Other people need to die, not me. The first to go are those who cannot contribute to my new society.
>The first to go are those who cannot contribute to my new society
Yeah so it just saves time.
>no-AI movement usess copyright as their point against AI
>big corporations join them and advocate for stricter copyrights
>giants like Disney will soon be able to copyright their "style"
>if they don't win, big corporations will just lean towards AI and make even more shitty subscription websites to milk tech illiterates who can't install a local AI
Nobody will win, neither the artists, nor the AI generators.
Someone finally gets it
The problem isn't the AI as much as the greedy scummy companies
The discourse benefits them too because nobody talks about that issue
I don't care
The waifu singularity is here
Daily reminder that these morons can't even tell what is AI or 'real' anymore and constantly witch hunt their own.
Should have drawn it with the calarts bean mouth and in the approved globohomosexual style
>itt a bunch of gays whine about artists because someone rejected their fetish commission request
yawn
>all these AI tools that are supposedly "better" than human programmers/artist/writer whatever fricking delusion
>still can't make their own game
you gays were always worthless ideagays LMAO
lack of soul
Some dude on twitter got mad as frick because I used a Kuwahara filter on a 3D render, xhey wouldn't believe I didn't use AI.
Anti-AI moronation will soon reach a breaking point, it's only a matter of time before no one takes these clowns seriously.
I'm happy that morons are going to be losing their jobs. 🙂
It's amazing how Ganker is doubling over on itself to slurp AI wiener as a trole as if we're not headed to 100$ AAA live service games that become even more generic than ever thanks to just generating everything
If you were buying AAA shit already you deserve to have your money stolen
>even more generic than ever thanks to just generating everything
>implying the majority of AAA assets aren't already outsourced to pajeets
GOOD MORNING SIR
The industry was already intolerable to people like me with good taste. I'm glad that things are going to get so bad that you shiteating normalgays will finally suffer too.
i swear to god every AI pajeet speaks with prose akin to delusion of grandeur, like a rich kid with an inflated ego. it's almost as if these indians are mentally stunted manchildren and lack any sense of self awareness or tact
this but with anti-AI luddites
seeing a lot more of that condescending smartass shit spewing out of you and yours
>n-no u
Everything that I read from your shitskins confirm that you have Black person-tier intelligences.
You and your buddies, can't you read?
>You and your buddies
Well I've certainly never said anything like that, nor have any of my peers.
>peers
Is that what discordtrannies call one another now?
Seething artgays are more likely to be discord users
>no u again
I guess I shouldn't expect anything creative from lazy shitskins who shill their dogshit toy here 24/7.
>s-shitskin
Leftard artgays are so low-principal that they'll abandon their political convictions to try to force a false dilemma. No. Generative AI is made by and for white people.
>You don't agree with me on this thing? You must from [the other team]
have a nice day you directionbrained monkey
It's true though
we're not the ones sperging out about delicious tears and cold, unfeeling machinery replacing populations which will let out a cacophany of cope and seethe (actual fricking quote i've read from these threads), sir
>indians indians indians
Indians can't afford a decent graphics card. It's poor third world trash who cry over AI since they can't participate
I don't see the problem
>it will only get better.
For once the future was NOT shit.
Enjoy it while you can, it will be banned and then weaponized against you eventually though.
beady eyed anime girls like this are uncanny
dont get how anyone finds that, generic how how to draw anime style written by a westerner, appealing
I will not use ai YET but there will be a point when I will. It is when I can, through repeated prompts and edits, make something that perfectly replicates the image I already had in my head. No matter what I generate it does not satisfy me because it cannot do that. I think there are basically two kinds of AI people. People who use the machine to bring their ideas into reality, and people who use the machine to create ideas. The former, like myself, will always be dissatisfied until the technology improves. The latter are brainlets who cannot create and rely on an AI to fill in the blanks, and that will always lead to shitty and inconsistent products. I want to impose MY vision on the machine, not have it spit out a vision FOR me. When I can put in a prompt, have it give me a prompt, and then tell it "no, change this part exactly as I instruct you to" one million times until I have what I want, AI is useless to me.
>"NO to AI art, I will replace it!"
>it looks worse and takes a lot of time
>his pic literally has soulless look about it
The absolute state of luddites.
>Ganker will defend the use of AI that has already been shown to have "training" towards diversity and correct opinions
pic related : the future you chose
only a problem with big corporate paywalled models like DALL-E and MidJourney etc.
SD lets me gen as much sick fetish shit as I want provided someone has trained a model for it using example images of said fetish
no forced diversity, no blocked terms, no nanny AI scrutinizing images post-gen and ripping them up if it sees anything it doesn't like
SD, which gets more slopped with every update (See the furor when SDXL launched) and is now getting leapfrogged by private AI? Sure thing, dude.
What about open source LLM models, which use GPT chat logs to generate a huge dataset and imitate higher quality, to the point there's statistical increase in quality if you prompt them to act as GPT-4? Sure dude, no problem here.
What happens when you try train a new image model and Laion gets cucked for CSAM claims and any new datasets get cucked with Dall-E slop that's all over the internet now?
Prototypes like Glaze already show you can frick training data in imperceptible ways, what's to stop Dall-E 4 from slipping that in?
Nvidia is already cucking their AI ability in Chinese markets and announced they are pivoting away from the consumer space. Enjoy being able to locally prompt low res garbage for 2 more weeks!
This is a level of cope beyond desperation
not sure what it is but it's unsettling
Have fun, those are all actual things happening. LAION has CSAM claims, Local models use so much GPT slop they improve if you prompt it to act as GPT-4, SD has been completely blown out of mind by Dall-E and models by FAANG companies,
You're moronic if you think the billions of dollars in investment is so YOU can use it.
local model
don't care
never will
Yeah you don't care. It shows. India is full of people who don't care and it's smells like shit.
Indians can't afford graphics cards you stupid luddite
But they're the biggest AI shills around. Your post contradicts with the actual evidence.
There is no evidence. You literally just made it up.
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/massive-leak-of-chatgpt-credentials-over-100000-accounts-affected/489801/
there's a reason the meme exists among the majority of pro AI posts itt having the worst english on this site
These are chat GPT users, not people making and using local image and language models.
>made it up
Holy fricking cope. This is literally the biggest cope that has been uttered in this thread.
>>bad faith
But enough about what AIjeets have been doing for months, no, years now.
>no u
This is just getting pathetic. I'm gonna go before you have a full on melty. Good luck convincing people that you have value.
>lazy homosexual who's completely dependant on israelite tech is talking about having a value
Lmfao, run along lil guy.
Yet the tech you have right now is not intelligent even the slightest.
Then there shouldn't be any worry about it replacing anyone right? You can just use your superior human intelligence to make and do things better than a machine can.
There should be a worry about you flooding the internet with your garbage "art", because you think the dogshit doodle your toy shat our must be seen by everyone else. I couldn't care less if you keep it to yourself, but that's not happening.
Except you did make it up. There's no evidence
There's a reason why AI shills are called pajeets for like, forever you Black person-in-denial.
Yes, and the reason is art Black folk like you trying to create a baseless false dilemma
>baseless false dilemma
Hello sirs, do yu swear youre white?
>Thinking they paid for GPUS
It's called "scalping" for a reason, Rajeesh. You're not slick, stop stealing shit.
AItrannies are no better than twittertrannies, I hope you all get caught in a fiery explosion.
but left has more... le sovl? Right looks just like a pic from some shitty game.
notice how you scrolled past this pic without even thinking of it
Welcome to the future of "content"
Lamp
that's a banana cauliflower
>using ai that copys multiple artworks and combines it into 1 chimera image
>artist COPIES IT BY HAND
at least rearrange the composition or whatever
>Yeah you don't give a shit about your game. We get it.
AntiAi homosexuals are weird
contrarianism is a constant of the internet
if someone likes thing, I must be against thing
Well, where's the evil cannot create" copypasta this time?
why are you reposting this useless twitter thread? why do you care about these people and whatever they do in the games they are making that you will never play anyway?
frick off back to your containment thread shartists
i like grids
>Ganker regularly complains about how modern gaming is just soulless slop with no passion behind it
>cheers at the idea of games becoming actual soulless slop made by machines who can’t feel passion
I fricking hate this board
>made by machines who can’t feel passion
I.e. an art in its purest form.
The issue isn't and was never lack of feelings, but boring and moronic ideas
>Ganker: constantly cries about le heckin soul
>also Ganker: desperately scrambles to use AI for everything and seethes at imaginary artists
>muh soul
Oh so you don't care if your game looks like shit?
the point is that ops ‘artist’ believes his shitty drawing looks better when 1, he copied at an ai generated, and 2 is still just looks less appealing than the ai generation nobody would have given a shit about anyway as a filler prop.
Only people seething about ai dont make money off their art to begin with. If they’re in a studio and threatened by ai they lack skills to justify their employment, simple as.
>SIKE THATS THE WRONG NUMBER
??????
GOOOOOD MORNING SIRS! In two week AI making india superpower! You will regretting your words and deeds! Thank you come again!
Human brains do exactly what people are b***hing about with AI, its frickin funny to me.
NOOO YOU CANT JUST USE A COLLECTION OF PAST EXPERIENCES TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW BASED ON AN IDEA YOU WANT NOOOOOO
LOL. literally
>1 minute apart
the whiny b***hing about AI is identical to the whiny b***hing about the internet, about TV, about the printing press
morons will flee from progress if given the chance to do so
ESLs don't talk like children larping as villains btw, just those heckin seefing luddites who are coping seething
The b***hing about TV was absolutely corrct and if you're absolutely moronic if you can't see why
>replace shitty old prompts with new ones from dall e-3
>claim that your redrawing them for twitter troony points
Would this be based or cringe?
it would be KINO
my game will have the best backgrounds
Landscapes weren't hard to make in the first place you lazy shit.
I'm too autistic to draw.
the art part of my brain is literally nonexistent.
I'm old as frick and all I can muster are kid like doodles
lol i have a painting that looks exactly the same hanging in my outhouse
why doesnt the reflection match? arent landscapes the easiest thing theyve learned from?
the reflection of that mountain in the water is not good
>nu-nu-Ganker is hating Golden Souls now
What the frick happened?
soul/soulless kek
imagine being outperformed at purposely poorly drawn art by a bot
>sike thats the wrong number
What does 'the wrong number' mean? Actually because of this single line, I don't understand the whole image.
esl
it's from a video of a black guy doing low level insults and "gotchas" in a pseudo-rap battle. He hands the guy his phone number and says THATS THE WRONG NUMBER and the blacks around him exaggeratedly go OOHHHHH like he laid down the biggest burn ever
enjoy your spoonfeeding i don't do this often
Thank you for the explanation.
>uses AI to get the rough idea of what they want
>but AI le bad for le artists
>makes a 1:1 redraw because… thats OK
…???
Putting the artist in scam artist.
It's a screenshot of their own game they fed to an AI paint program and that's being cut out because you're falling for bait
nice cope moron
AI sisters?
again, nice cope, moron.
So this moron wasted time redrawing his own screenshot?
This guy literally used ai in it’s most justified manner as a tool for his workflow.
If he made the models in his game he essentially used a filter to modify it no different than using a photoshop filter.
Fricking virtue signaling homosexuals. Not a singular ounce of freewill in these pushovers.
In any other context you would call this SOUL
tracing over a screenshot in your own game using models you made is quite the opposite of soul
So, he basically used img2img as a photoshop filter? And this is bad, because...?
virtue signaling, think it will boost engagement if people see an artist shunning AI even though it enhanced his own screenshot he traced over in the end which is just as lazy and looks worse.
>MER JOB
>DA AI'S TAKIN MER JOB
watching art piggies seethe is so fulfilling
I SUMMON ANCIENT GEAR GOLEM IN ATTACK MODE AND END MY TURN!
I throw a big wrench anywhere and end my turn.
why does the AI's art look like an oilpainting and his looks like something a kindergartener drew?
which one?
>The A.I... replaced the artists?
yes. i'm the artist now.
So do people pretending to have prompting skill not realize they will be replaced by an LLM or LORA?
You already see it happening with Bing Dall-E 3, and stuff like Adobe has some of the most obvious pre-prompting ever, if you ask it to generate males enough it will boil down to an Asian guy, a Poojeet, a White guy, and a Black guy, and half of the poojeets just keyword spam "masterpiece" anyways despite that being an NAI keyword
If you train an AI on Medieval paintings, then who exactly are you stealing from?
Since most of them are Anonymous with no known painter plus they have no copyright attached to them.
>what is public domain
everything 🙂
>500 replies of forced outrage in less than 2 hours
All of you are Black folk, Golden Souls mods are absolute kino
its a shitskin shill thread, thats why
Mods are being paid to not delete these threads.
DING DING DING
No, it's as simple as the head mod being an actual right wing aggravator who gets paid and wishes the entire site was /misc/
not even kidding
So he's the only thing keeping this place from becoming a leftist hug-gulag with commissars and stasi like any other forum on the internet? fricking B-B-B-B-BASED
Of course, most morons in this thread are probably phone Black folk that don't know how to install adblockers and mods value those pennies more than anything else
>Mods are being paid
AI is the future and no amount of kicking, screaming, and crying will change that.
2 more weeks sirs
Devs are already putting AI art into their games (this thread is just one example)
Students are using AI to breeze through school
White collar workers are using it to automate meaningless work.
The internet has already been automated with AI for over a decade.
The world is changing, becoming more efficient. The AI revolution is here. The world you grew up in is nothing more than a burning memory.
And why does somebody choosing not to use it for a doom mod anger you enough to larp?
>this thread is just one example
this thread is a example of someone actually taking AI shit art out though?
shut up Black person. you're subhuman.
but enough about AI shartists
one for the road
>actually thinks this is a clever rebuttal or gotcha
I knew luddites were low IQ but man
It's not a rebuttal althoughbeit?
You're now getting mad at literal static
It's noise
much like yours and all the anti-AI luddite posting in this thread, meaningless, random noise
you needful some self wareness sir
>luddite
Why do shitskins use this word like their shithole of a country isn't full of low-IQ brownoids?
if you wait for me, I'll get SD running and use it as base for a prompt
I have this now and it serves the purpose of providing an image for my post
better than 98% of all digital artists. looks soulful
I wish social media didn't exist. Or better yet, it does but there is some type of cosmic force that anytime someone does something for charity, provides some sort of statement about politics or culture or virtue signals, it is completely anonymous. There would be 0% chance of any recognition or association either. Could you imagine?
uhhh then nobody would be doing those things. are you dumb? do you want children over in africa to fricking die because of this???
That would be horrible. Definitely don't want that. I bet the trans charities would dry up as well. Simply devastating, I tell you hwat.
Anon, die is such a harsh word. What about spiritually lifted?
>"I was using AI but now I prefer not to for my unpaid mod"
>Pajeets get mad and fill the entire thread with supervillain rants
Bros? I-i thought we were all for artistic freedom....
i just really, really like cute anime girls
AI is fun
Why does 'I am not using AI for my doom mod' anger you guys enough to spam like this?
I thought it was about artistic freedom and passion?
AI is nice because it lets no talent shitters like me produce stuff for my own uses, without having to empty my wallet to artists when all I want are some simple character portraits or basic character designs to work off of.
Sure it's not on par with an actually great artist, but I have neither the time nor the talent to learn to draw. So this opens up a completely new avenue for me.
I'm competent enough as a hobbyist artist but I can't justify spending hours drawing all of my stupid ideas, so bing and chatGPT really shine when I want to make a stupid image for my friends.
Yeah that's a good point, it really is a good shitposting tool. Sure an actual drawn image will hit the mark better, but for those random ass ideas that you're never gonna actually do. Why not just slap it in and see what comes out?
I'm not necessarily against AI completely but I am against half the boards needing AI generals to contain the flood of brownoids, there's a point where you just need to tell these Black folk to frick off.
>wtf why people keep making off-topic threads???
hello newbie
We need /ai/ urgently to separate all this AI stuff in one place.
>there is a general on this board for this
Hnnnnngggh
>no math and critical thinking skills for code monkey shit
>only things that inerest me are drawing and writing
>AI makes it no longer a option to make money
Literally time to stack boxes in a warehouse 8-5
Cry about it