Why was America's Smash Bros picks so fricking SHIT?
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>jap list is entirely jap shit
>usa and europe lists far more varied
the japenis really think everything outside their island is dogshit don't they.
It's not even the fact that Japan's picks are entirely domestic that's the biggest problem, it's that they wanted to go all-in on third party garbage. At least with America's picks of Shantae, Geno, Waluigi, and Bandana Dee, you're asking for characters that have SOME storied connection to Nintendo platforms.
>Shantae
Frick off, you moronic homosexual
Imagine still falling for rostegay bait with an old ass image with no sources lol
>EWWW ARE THOSE JAPANESE CHARACTERS IN A JAPANESE GAMES
frick you, i wish saber and reimu got into smash just to piss you gays off
The concept of genuine national pride or identity is incomprehensible to the Amerimutt.
What are you talking about? We're the only country that makes anything anymore. google, youtube, twitter, steam deck, this site. We have you morons by the balls.
You're right, sorry, I forgot about America's rich culture.
>bandana dee
yeah fricking right. nobody over the age of twelve gives a frick about bandana dee
>being surprised that japan picks from games they actually play
>1. Sora
>4. Geno
>7. Master Chief
Yeah, why do Americucks have shit tastes? They clapped at Sora yet raged at Byleth despite the fact that both are anime swordsmen. One had a by the books moveset and the other actually tried to do something unique. What happened? The world's worst riddle.
>why were people happy at a character they like getting in but angry at fire emblem character 4642361#
Truly one of life’s greatest mysteries
>sora is... le good!
>byleth is... le bad!
Look, we all know you're tourists.
>Zoomer can't understand why a KINGDOM HEARTS rep was more praised than Fire Emblem #1204
>westoid defending shit because he's still seething at Byleth.
FE is much older and more relevant to Nintendo than Kingdom Sharts tho
>relevant
series was literally on its deathbed a few years ago and only survived because of waifus
KH never needed to rely on that to live heh
MUH NINTENDO RELEVANCE, MUH PURITY
>sora is... le good!
>byleth is... le bad!
Correct.
They're both bad; Kingdom Hearts fans can't even fully enjoy the inclusion because none of the Disney shit comes with it! What's the point! Should have added anyone else other than those two losers.
It's alsl funny how some morons think bringing up Pokemon and Mario representatives is a valid argument for multiple anime swordmen
>one is the protagonist of one of the most beloved vidya series out there, who is in the hearts of countless people
>the other is the protagonist of a mediocre entry into a series and the 8th fricking rep for that series in Smash
Gee, I wonder why
also:
>was the last dlc in a pass filled with third party new to smash series
what's even funnier is how morons thought the problem with fire emblem was just anime swords and proceeded to sperg over any character with a sword ever
Because Sora isnt the 8th fricking rep of a series, thats why.
Also Sora's trailer wasnt complete dogwater, Byleth's trailer did no favors.
So a generic HOLY SHIT I'M IN SMASH trailer about a character that only morons wanted is better than a generic HOLY SHIT I'M IN SMASH trailer about a character that actually has a good moveset that's only hated because Nintendogays despise anime and Japan?
>generic
you need to try harder to bait people in, nobody's falling for that
Except Sora's trailer was generic?
>conflict happens, this time the flame is dying and everyone reverts into trophies
>the day is saved by the new character
>everyone in smash celebrates the new character because the day is saved
Sounds like a generic "story driven" trailer to me. Only reason morons like you clapped was because it was "le heckin sorarino i recognize him!"
still too weak man, you're not really good at baiting are you
Sora's tariler didn't have 1) an entire minute of talking and 2) didn't show who the character was in the first frame, killing all build up.
generic is still better than dogwater
>Also Sora's trailer wasnt complete dogwater
It was because everyone thought it was a Dark Souls character, and instead it was a character that was forgotten in a few days.
I'll be honest Master Chief would be boring a fighter
Sora is a iconic
FE is trannie shit
Stop fricking twisting the narrative, anime swordmen was code for "Frick off FEBlack folk, we want REAL video game characters".
frick both of them, both are gay as hell
Why do people like Sora? Kingdom Hearts is a cringe series. Name one person who liked Kingdom Hearts 3. You can't.
Kingdom Hearts was always my favorite series ever since Sakurai added Sora in Smash
I can name myself
>Sora's gone now that he's in
>Nobody cares about Crash anymore since his franchise is shit again
>Shantae is just coom bait so Sakurai ignores em
>Super Mario RPG introduced to Zoomers
GENO BROS, NEXT GAME IS OUR TIME
I want to make a run and gun action RPG starring Geno with Treasure and the Warioland guys where everything takes place in a toy shop.
thats a great idea
It'd run and gun with some Mario/Warioland platforming. Geno can swap body parts for different guns and mobility upgrades. Geno's star power comes in batteries that he uses to shoot lasers, discs, and bombs. There are settlements where the inhabitants are wish takers who take the form of toys. Enemies are weapons ranging from knives to morning stars to flintlock muskets.
get a cracking learning that programming bro
I don't work for Square Enix though.
>Genotrannies are still coping
>Shantae
>Master Chief
realistically Monster Hunter, Doom slayer, and Geno have the biggest chances for the next Smash
Japan has the worst pcisk by far. Europe is probably the best of the three.
Oh and you as well
Reminder Sora was the winner of the 2015 ballot but frick you, Bayonetta, a washed up prostitute gets in
not confirmed until they show data
american-born anon here, this is what I'd have smash bros look like (with some helpful feedback with changing it from a kind fellow american anon)
>Toadette before Toad
already hate you
before Toad
Yes, because Toadette is cuter and funnier!
>coomshit
leave
sent the wrong image, this is what an anon wanted to suggest me to change it to!
can't weigh in on the other stuff but not wanting Raven Beak is genuine horrible taste
>Trash BEAK
loser couldn't even kill a simple girl even with his hands at her throat
this any better
>Jigglypuff over Mewtwo
original 12 stays sorry
if I had to narrow this down to 69 fighters(base Ultimate
tougher than expected
Separate Diddy and Dixie, no need for that tag team mechanic holding both of them back.
NTA but at this point it feels like the only way Dixie will get in is by tag team
kinda schizo but I think Diddy really was intended to be a tag-team
>side-b seems like that DKC2 move where one of the kong throws each other at an enemy
>his Smash attacks are multi-hits like it could've been a team attack
>down b seems like a copout just pulling out an item
that being said I wouldn't mind Dixie Kong being a semi-clone ala Falco to Fox
also would be okay with a unique tagteam where they do tagout between each other but followed by a partner but unlike Ice Climber one of the Kong is shadowed signalling that they cannot be hit or they do not hit unless is for certain attack where they attack as a team like smashes and throws
He probably was, Sakurai did say Diddy n Dixie were at one point going to be a tag team in Brawl
>kinda schizo but I think Diddy really was intended to be a tag-team
I think they actually said that was intended to happen for Brawl, but they couldn't make it work well enough in time, and obviously Smash 3DS wouldn't let the concept be realized there either.
yeah, I really warmed up to the idea, like I would like her to be a semi-clone being Diddy with her own flavor which is more than the Xenoblade Aegis with Mythra practically being
more of an echo an echo to switch too
>Smash 3ds had to axe ice climbers
>it's also probably why the rhythm heaven crew was cut
damn
truth be told, I used to think the Glee Club choir kids should be in, but I think their conductor would probably work better. Since he's literally a music conductor you could have him summon objects/characters from other Rhythm Heaven minigames, it literally writes itself
I hate how smashies convinced themselves that RH is on the level of the likes of Pushmo just because is not in Smash when is a popular franchise
>No Rayman
It's SHIT. Rayman 2 outsold Crash 1-3 combined.
Rabbids are more popular than Rayman anyway.
Yeah, who cares, the current relationship with both characters are now cementing both have a chance to show up as miis/ATs in smash at some point.
Far, far, FAR more likelier than fricking Crash.
Crash is blatantly just tokenism because in the PlayStation era Sony used him like a mascot. Many characters could be swapped out without issue.
wouldn't surprise me, Rayman 2 is on everything
is this that Shaq person I heard about a few years ago
Lloyd Irving being the #1 pick in Japan is weirder when Yuri and Velvet exist
Lloyd has a pretty unique style when you get his aerial shit.
Is Velvet really that popular?
Yuri and Luke maybe, who gave a shit about Velvet?
I hate Symphoniagays and gamecube babies
they all reflect the local forum/imageboard culture
btw europe's picks are hilarious
The better questions is why did japan fans put fricking GUNDAM? I get that its popular there but how is it gaming related?
Nu Gundam, my beloved.
America is full of trannies and moronic muttoids that just love eating up slop.
>wanting to play as a Monster Hunter instead of one of the monsters
That's so lame
That's a bug Japanese thing. They take there self inserts very seriously.
which one though?
>americans are moronic
many such cases
you will never be an insect nor a woman
honestly genuinely surprised so many people even care that much about Crash, I can only guess that it's somewhat superficial and they wouldn't go near any new game he's released in, even if it harkened back to the PS1 titles.
t. guy who actually voted for Crash in the ballot
Probably 90% of Crash's Smash following got built off switch ports and fake leaks, I have absolutely no doubt hardly anyone actually cares about him, especially in 2023 where it seems like Crash as a franchise is falling off again
I kind of fell off with the idea of him in Smash. Like I think it'd still be cool but I don't know if he would actually be very fun to play as in Smash.
Don't forget Crash being a "rival" to Mario and Sonic even though that didn't last long.
Assuming the next Smash continues in the general trajectory Ultimate did when it came to representing as many series as possible, I have a gut feeling that the Microsoft-ActiBlizz purchase is probably going to be the deciding factor for Crash getting in, assuming MS and Nintendo's relationship doesn't strain. Both Banjo and Steve were included more-or-less as crowd pleasers and I'd imagine it might happen again with Crash and Doomguy.
In general I imagine that a lot of picks added to 6 are going to be characters popular during Ultimate's speculation cycle, that's pretty much the one consistent pattern in terms of Smash considering a lot of characters brought up during 4's speculation got into Ultimate or got some other content.
>baiting because euros clearly have the worst taste according to this image
and the tourists fell for it
Will we ever be free from Genogays? You fricks have been whining since the first one.
Ridley and K rool fans set a precedent
whine loud enough and you get in
Put him in the game as a shitty low tier. Worked on the banjo gays
Can we vote to remove some characters from Ultimate? I want Sans and Steve gone.
This is probably the wrong thread, but two days ago you Ganker guys posted some real life characters as Smash characters, and I'm trying to recreate that on Bing Image generator, but it keeps telling me that it's unsafe content, why is this happening? It makes no sense.
Image for reference
Found your problem, you were trying to make an image with a homosexual-tier anime. Tokyo Ghoul Black folk deserve to hang.
Isn't Tokyo Ghoul is a gory anime? That would be the reason
he won
>not only in, but so good that he's literally banned in most tournaments
Stevechads won, by A LOT.
say his name
Foot fetish Frank
3rd parties in Smash was a mistake.
>jibanyan
EXTREMELY based. i dont know shit about yokai watch but i love this little homies design
the most recent survery
2022
>Travis Touchdown
>Shantae
>Elma
>Monster Hunter
>Skull Kid
Genuinely thought the people supporting these would've given up by now. Something about this poll in general rubs me the wrong way, like it feels too echo chamber-y
most forums are yeah
>Phoenix Wright
>Master Chief
>Shantae
why
Phoenix would be a very based addition
no he wouldn't shut up
well if you liked GBC one of the games you like might be Shantae and if you liked GBA/DS one of the games you liked might be ace attorney
Chief though seems purely hall of fame hype wank but is not like we don't have those types before
>Reimu beats shadow
OH NO NONO
also I wonder how it would like now with Geno and Paper Mario having a revival, along with Oatchi being super popular
Europe's are shit too. Rayman? Really? Doomslayer? WTF? Geno? Who? Heavy? WTF? Jibanyan? Literally WHO? Japan has better choices by far.
Filthy casual
what the FRICK is a jibanyan? burunyuu~ nyan jajaaaan doridoridoridori
I sure hope you don't actually want Bandana Dee above all others.
I do
Adeline is shit, only pedos like her and all the other ones aren't nearly as iconic as Waddle Dee
>Ganker turning on Master Chief
damn
Master Chud has always sucked.
Any moron that wanted sora is the equivalent of those wanting spongebob and have no actual interest in the franchise.
Cope, gay. Sora's iconic, got in before whatever scrimblo you wanted, is a million times better to play as then it anyway, there's NOTHING you can do about it.
>Sora's iconic
>gets forgotten in a few days after the reveal
>h-he's... le forgotten...
Clearly not, if you're still seething about him.
"is forgotten" posts are the most dumb shit you see towards characters, like there's nothing that says otherwise and even by the virtue of that shitpost, it's clear someone remembers them
Forgotten about? Sora will never be forgotten his series is quite long running for starters. And the non standard concept that makes up his series is too unique. Kingdom Hearts will always be a well known gaming series like Metal Gear.
You're still seething about him years later
Yeah, Sora is iconic.
So iconic that Sakurai gave him a generic anime swordsman moveset.
Nice cope, Genotrannie
>Japan
>Lloyd #1
Fricking why. He was so generic
Reminder than Fire Emblem Three Houses and Engage main protags will be in the next smash game as 100% certain roster slots.
Just skip to acceptance. You know Nintendo doesn't give a frick and will force feed them to you whether you want them or not.
yup, Fire Emblem won
we lost
>Fire Emblem won
>Smashtrannies lost
fricking based
frick a dx and frick a reboot, Nintendo vs JUMP now
I know you are half shitposting, but that is unironically the only way people would take major cuts in an understanding manner
>well we are getting ALL new characters with *other crossover side*, cant expect them to make 80 or so new characters for one game
no, I am 100% serious about this, other wise I wouldn't make a roster
I have said it about Nick Brawl, if you are going to do cuts do not just put a bandaid on a shot gun wound, in this case a Ninty vs Shonen would be a whole new appendage
it makes perfect sense as a crossover since it is already flirted with in many fan games such as smash flash, crusade and the many mods that add goku
Fair enough, but i hate your roster, no hard feelings, i just think its terribly balanced in both sides.
That is one way to kill your IP and goodwill, congratz.
>That is one way to kill your IP and goodwill, congratz.
I remember when the Fire Emblem, Persona, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon gachas killed their respective franchises.
Oh wait all those franchises went on to make best-selling chart toppers.
Whoops.
Oh you mean irrelevant side games and not the main sequel? Oh those dont matter nor anyone worth anything plays that garbage. Dumbass.
Just so you know, MK and AC are both failures.
>I know you are half shitposting, but that is unironically the only way people would take major cuts in an understanding manner
The next Smash is going to be a gacha.
Cuts will be understood because you're getting a new banner to pull from every week.
>tfw we got byleth instead of monster hunter even though hunter got voted higher
>couldve essentially played very similarly
why
Because you're looking at fanpolls from redditors.
Reminder Rayman missed his chance permanently because Ubisoft
>screwed Nintendo over during the Wiiu era by delaying Legends and making the exclusive multiplatform
>disrespected Sakurai and gave him a shitty Rayman model for trophies to which he immediately put them on blast on Miiverse so they were forced to make a new model
Bandana Dee should've been in the game and I still stand by this.
Sakurai would rather cut off his balls then allow a Kirby character he didn't make in Smash kek
Yeah, that's the main problem with Kirby content. Sakurai doesn't give a flying frick if it's not from Super Star.
Remember when he added Galacta Knight as an alt and Masked Dedede as a final smash, but not their battle themes? Not even the vanilla, unedited versions?
This shit is why I hope the next game's directed by somebody else.
Japan is fricking moronic, I swear.
>master chief
lmao
don't burgers know no one recognizes him outside of burgerland
He's one of the best video game characters of all time, and btfo doomguy
Jap picklists are literally just pretty boys and girls. The frick are you on about?
>BASED JP: Lloyd, Dante, Arle Nadja, Gundam, Raiden, not having Steve
>BASED EU: Rayman, Agumon, Dante, Jibanyan
>BASED US: Shantae maybe?
HUH
Who cares about agumon or fricking heavy of all characters. Never a chance in hell those would be added. Shit taste. 2b is based as frick, euros will never understand
Pick two characters from each column who didn't get in to make an alternate fighter pass
Raiden and lloyd
Shantae and 2b
Rayman and Dante (really stretching here)
Monster Hunter, Dante
Bandana Waddle Dee, Waluigi
Rayman, Crash
This kinda exemplifies the problem with rostergaygin. When the question is "what characters would make for a fun and interesting moveset" people hear "what game/series do you want Sakurai's validation for?"
>"what characters would make for a fun and interesting moveset"
Literally any character can have a fun and interesting moveset. Any of them.
is a summary for all more to your liking?
The only good thing to ever come out of these questionable results was this.
the fact we didn't get a fricking monster hunter character for fricking smash ult is fricking insulting.
More than likely still tied up in legal with MvCI.
I strongly feel it was being seriously considered for the base game, but it was later shot down by the Monster Hunter devs themselves or something like that.
If there's going to be another poll, who's going to be top 3 for each of the regions?
Ganker always shit on Europe but they same to have better taste here than the US.
shut up traitor
>Gundam in JP
>no Goku in USA
I call ballshit
it is, is fake as hell
I wanted Bomerman or Arle Nadja. I ended up voting for Bomberman in the Smash 4 poll.
Monster hunter wouldve been cool
>Agumon
Maybe Yuros are not so bad after all
It's a joke of a pick because it would never ever happen in a million years, it's surprising enough sonic is in smash given he is the competition to mario, but a Digimon? No fricking way
>long-coming second greatest video game crossover of all time after decades-long bitter rivalry
it would be world-shattering. you're just a dumb, deluded c**t.
>Lloyd
just stumbled across this, it actually looks not too bad for a NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN mockup
brings up a good question, how is Nintendo going to handle mario's voice for Smash with martinet being phased out? will they keep reusing the brawl voice clips or will they use the mario wonder guy
No reason to re-record lines that are plenty usable, Falcon had no new lines since what, brawl?
thats one thing that bothers me about nu-smash is the reuse of Brawl voice clips across the board yet they went ahead and gave Marth an english dub voice
In that case its "localization", characters speaking nip in an international release is a no-no nowadays.
Falcon already speaks ENGRISH so it didnt need a new dub.
>characters speaking nip in an international release is a no-no nowadays.
But Cloud and Sephiroth speak jap in the English version. What gives?
3rd party bullshit, squeenix probably has a lot of restrictions involving their IPs, so i imagine getting the EN dub was too much of a hassle, if they could have done it they would though.
Dante wouldn’t work well in Smash.
it would be nice to see him and Bayonetta together atleast other than that I myself don't really see what the fuss is about, Dante is more of a Playstation guy, likewise Amateratsu both would fit in yeah but still, atleast Okami is inspired by LoZ
and yes I already know that they already added playstation guys I don't want more of them and didn't really like them in the first place
>people still seething because their favorites aren't in
Kingdom Hearts will be known as the gayest videogame series that ever existed
the steven universe of vidya
>he's STILL seething
SHANTAEBROS
Because Americans are fricking SHIT
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN FRICKING REIMU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
touhou is trash and will never be in Smash
>the anti-Reimu schizo is still alive
yes it will
>cherished character from many people's childhoods, a classic made from the expansion collection of movies from a company known the world over
>shitty coombait character who only greasy otakus know
Gee I wonder why Sora was picked.
>cartoon character only popular among 21-25 year old americans
vs
>main character from most popular indie game of all time
hard choice
>main character from most popular indie game of all time
Yea it sucks Shovel Knight didn't get in either.
>>main character from most popular indie game of all time
Touhou is easily the most popular indie franchise.
But I wouldn't expect a western normalgay to know that.
Touhou is barely known outside of Japan and shovel knight is known everywhere.
You'd know this if you went outside.
>main character from most popular indie game of all time
The average FNAF knock off is more popular
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Reimu chads stay winning
2004-present graph
Why did you purposely spell it wrong?
Who cares? How does it effect the game at all?
character only popular among 21-25 year old americans
Meanwhile, in reality
>Sora was #2 in Japan's list
>Reimu wasn't even on Japan's list
VERY strange delusions going on ITT
you know the OP image is fake, right? with like nothing backing it either
character from many people's childhoods
Touhou is older than Kingdom Hearts, dumb westie.
It's okay bro.
well to add fuel to the fire Reimu is iconic for more vidya related reason, being a pioneer of a whole genre being danmaku/bullet hell
thats pretty cool about her
Holy shit who cares? Its just a game. play it or shut up
Super Smash Bros is a game for girls and boys
Crash, Shantae and DoomSlayer are very good choices.
The japanese list wanted the generic Monster Hunter, Jesus Christ.
whats wrong with Monster Hunter? unless you prefer Palico which I would agree with
The devs don't want to canonize one by having playable in crossover and the focus are one the monsters. That was why the MVCI appearance that was against the wishes was so infamous.
meanwhile in reality: none of the thousands of hours a year you spend on Ganker bickering about xyz character will EVER have ANY effect on who gets in smash bros and you should have a nice day
I don't care
nah, you care. you spend 40 hours a week here for free
Dumb esl poster
>2. Steve
yeah listen bro
Is this real? I thought Smash was for good boys and girls.
>Lloyd
>Monster Hunter
>Byleth
>Arle Nadja
Nah frick off, I'll take Crash and Master Chief any day of the week.
I'm glad 2B didn't make it, literally the biggest collab prostitute.
Ryu is in the game already.
>only EU cares about agumon
I take back all the slander I've ever directed towards europoors.
Amerimutts really got no leg to stand on anyway
For better or for worse I am glad Americans aren't allowed to get their shit. Mind you I know OP's image is fake, just saying that by looking just as the other stuff like Nick and WB, the game managed to avoid shit like "le funny" picks and meme picks.
>For better or for worse I am glad Americans aren't allowed to get their shit.
>the game managed to avoid shit like "le funny" picks and meme picks.
>Gundum
Frick off.
>Mind you I know OP's image is fake
Nah, just hearsay. Specifically FOP was distributed globally by Nelvana.
Isn't NASB made by a Swedish team? It is why it has the weird "No Fairy OddParents" because it aired on Disney in Europe.
the hell are you talking about, shit like Wolf, Ridley, Banjo, Steve, K Rool, Little Mac and Simon is way more popular in America than it is in japan
Anon if an american made the roster you'll see shit like Nonspecific Action Figure or Wiggler because of memes.
Yeah some of those characters are mostly western favored (no, Wolf, Steve, and K Rool and arguably Simon are also popular in Japan) but they weren't pick because of that. They were picked because they're video game characters with specific roles as villains or leads. Unlike you know, Arnold's Grandma.
Wiggler is too hard to animate.
based on what?
The person says that games having secondary characters from the source material playable instead of the main character is a bad thing.
you say this as if Smash Bros doesn't have a history of adding gag characters like Jigglypuff, Pichu, Wii Fit Trainer and Piranha Plant
Jigglypuff was important in the anime at the time and recycled assets, same with Pichu, Wii Fit sold a gorillian units, and Pirahna Plant is in a series with many characters added anyway.
still gag character ie memeshit, keep that same energy
what part of "recycled asset, main character already in game" did you miss
>americans bad because somebody added a quirky character
>w-well um actually is okay when Master Hero Samurai does it
stfu you don't have a problem with gag characters you just have a problem with americans
>he thinks adding grandma without arnold is the same as adding jigglypuff with pikachu
why are rostergays so fricking moronic
Arnold was stated specifically noted for not being suitable due to his character.
you mean like the excuse they give for rugrats despite shit like this already existing?
anon were you not around even during 4? the internet was rife with fake polls
...anon you clearly didn't get what my post was saying. I am distinctly talking about adding characters that are memes while clearly ignoring the main characters of the franchise
Oh I was around, I just didn't partake in rostergayging nearly as much as in Ultimate, if only because the only character I wanted in 4 was Bayonetta, even if I was sure she wouldn't make it
I didn't bring up Nick Brawl just saying Smash Bros also has a number of gag characters so the notion of america bad because they would add silly characters is iffy because smash already does that
There are many characters who are memeshit and the main character. Bad post.
Which are still major characters, with the exception of PP anyway but at that point you've already gotten the major Mario characters.
There's a clear difference between Duck Hunt and Grandma.
Also why you are putting characters obviously added because they were easier to add due to existing assets, I dunno.
It is a bad thing if the main characters aren't already in the game
>Jigglypuff
>Pichu
>Piranha Plant
>Major characters
lelmayo
also
>with the exception of PP but at that point you've already gotten the major Mario characters
what is it with rostergays and their inability to read complete sentences
Multiversus roster is fine, the only real stinker is Black Adam, and Gremlins being seperated into 2 characters when they could be one but whatever extra gremlin
1.5 shitty picks out of 22(not counting reindog since is not exactly a pick) 25 with datamines having good ones like Joker, Samurai Jack and Ben 10
thats like a better pick rate than most Smash games
lets see
>SSB
(1) out of 12 is shit, idk what anyone say Jiggs is clearly the weakest pick, initially not that bad but really didn't age well, she's kinda just there more and more
>Melee
3(5) out of 14 is shit, Dr. Mario, Roy, Pichu, while Sheik and YL aren't that bad imo, they didn't age well frankly
>Brawl
(2) out of 18 is shit, damn near perfect, even the FE pick was a good, Lucas is a funny case, is in reverse where he was initially a questionable pick but he aged well given the influence Mother had but still kinda unnecessary imo since Mother is fine with Ness, is not that big, is lucky to have Lucas, but he isn't that bad, certainly the weakest there, Snake is a guest character but a fun one that fits in well with the cast even having good SSE moments, there is ZSS whom is questionable but probably the best Altered character there is so I don't mind her
>4
8 out of 21 are stinkers, idc Ryu was an annoying inclusion since Capcom couldn't just let Megaman have his moment and had to give Ryu and equal attention cake like Family Guy, Cloud as a guest character also annoys me and Corrin everyone agrees is literally the worst, Miis I honestly think they would be better as one rather than 3 classes, with wii sports/play moves, or just mixed the 3 idk, Dark Pit, I just don't like for obvious reason, WFT is not that bad but just very expendable
>Ultimate
11 out of 23, not even going to elaborate on it just my 2 cents
Puyo Puyo chick in the JP list actually fits Smash perfectly since the game is a classic cutesy puzzle game.
>was
Were
You esl
I'm just glad everyone who begged for Waluigi got to eat shit.
I mean, Sakurai did respect people's wishes, mostly.
>Top ten Nintendo characters made it playable
>Except fricking Waluigi, Isaac and Krystal.
I can understand not putting everyone, but Waluigi should have been included before Piranha Plant.
It was probably the most accurate poll for the ballot, and the results were literally released back in April 2015.
But which characters would top both sides in 2023?
Nintendo side:
Waluigi, Bandana Dee, Isaac
Third Party side:
Crash, Doomguy, Geno
>Bayonetta so high
Why
its also fake
Poll was made back 2015 and reverse google search dates this picture to april 2015.
However the poll only had 2,000 people voting.
you can probably imagine a bunch of stuff in between those are things like Robocop and Shrek
The add character poll was soon after Bayo 2 was announced for WiiU. So really good timing.
I remember people shrugging it off because of Daisy and Chrom, oh how they were wrong.
>All these FOTM
Sakurai was right for not adding Shitae and Shovel Knight.
>Shantae got a Mii costume with a music track
>Shovel Knight didn't, he only got an Assist Trophy and Spirits
Shame. I would have loved a remix or even a straight rip of Strike the Earth. I'm sure Yacht Club would have loved to do it too since they loved the Assist Trophy
Why did people waste their votes on Inklings? They were guaranteed to be added.
Didn't Sakurai say Sora was the most requested character they had
he said it about Bayonetta too
>most requested feasible character
rostergays I swear to fricking god
Where
Yes, but the picture was a fanpoll with only about a few thousands people voting on it. For example, I doubt Chrom was the most voted character worldwide, but he was added due to fan demands according to Sakurai.
What this poll shows is that, even if the top spots are not exactly, correct, it did represent reality to what people wanted to an extent (Isaac, for example, was brought back as an AT due to fans demanding him back according to Sakurai, unfortunately not brought as a playable character.)
Top 5 in Europe actually, and feasible for Smash 4. Sora's negotiations apparently started back in 2015 (same as Steve), so you can guess it took them a fricking long time to include both.
thats even more questionable when Bayo sold the least in europe
but idk internet nintygay tend to be crazy about games they never played with Earthbound and Persona
Do people still like Shovel Knight?
I don't think people hate him per se, but they probably don't care about him being added in Smash anymore.
If you were to remake a fanpoll today, I don't think he would be top ten. Same with Shantae.
Waluigi would probably still be up there, same with Geno for whatever reason.
SMRPG remake guarantees Geno will still be a fan request for the next five years
It's evergreen.
>Dante was number 3 in Japan, even outranking Byleth and Monster Hunter
>Number 9 in Europe
>Nowhere to be seen in US
its fake mon
If it is, that makes me even more sad
Has there ever been a franchise that made Gankerchuds and e-celebs foam out of their mouths as much as Kingdom Hearts?
Yes.
Newcomers should be deep cut characters from Nintendo's history.
nah frick you homosexuals for ever bringing up VIFAM in your rostergay garbage, you don't deserve shit
>VIFAM
What?
>muh sakurai bought this mecha thing he is clearly doing it for mach rider because of the poster
I still remember that garbage, you homosexuals don't know the Round Vernier from VIFAM and thing it was some random shit Sakurai bought to support your grinchhomosexualry
>mach rider was a grill all along
this is more shocking to me than samus was
Should have added Saki or Isa. Big missed opportunity, this series deserves more resources.
they are extremally obscure characters to ever be put in smash if they ever got added they would get the same reaction as hero got from americans but universal
I’m curious what they’ll do next. Who’s left? Ryu Hayabusa? Geno? Waluigi? 13 FE characters? 5 FF characters? I don’t know.
Ah ninja gaidengays, they think they're like some important shit and not a hasbeen.
It’s the same tier as Castlevania. Just be nice about it. Hayabusa is a gaming icon worthy of being alongside Mario, Sonic, Minecraft Steve and Sora. You knew that though.
>looks at oatmeal turning into NFTs
>looks at the recent ninja gaiden game
Babe, I have no idea what you mean. You 100% like those Ninja Gaiden games. You know I’m happy for you, so just admit it.
yeah I know, gaidengays are delusional just as they were annoying as frick years ago
If nothing else, he will be in every Dead or Alive.
>Dead or Alive
isn't it Dead and not Alive Anymore
You hate the SNES remastered trilogy
boo
>I don't want to deal with Disney legal, let's go with Bayo since she should be easy to deal with
*Time Skip*
>Huh. Disney was surprisingly easily to deal with. I guess they like free advertising.
I guarantee having the Mickey Keychain on the keyblade cost more than most indie games.
I guarantee you’re gay
*decideds to just have it for the unplanned DLC when he could've had it in the beginning
theres some wonkyness going on
>Agumon
Why? He didn't originate from a video game and he's not even mostly known as a video game character
>a virtual pet isn't a video game
he's as valid as ROB
I remember this shit who even made a fake japanese poll with terrible word art for kana and passed it off as some nintendo dream poll
If a composite of LCD toys can exist, then an LCD virtual pet would be viable.
Takemaru and Saki should have been playable.
Most of the AT’s should be playable. Goroh, Isaac, Gray Fox, Skull Kid, Knuckles. All of them.
man I forgot how ugly LInk was in Smash 4, he still looks kinda lame in Ultimate though
Geno got all those votes and they couldn't even give him a deluxe head or anything lol
>Sakurai's fricking waifus instead of a character actually worthy of being added.
To be completely honest, these two are the only characters left that I seriously want. Anything else would just be extra goodies for me.
>Smash 4 has numerous references and trophies for Rayman
>He doesn't appear as playable
I wonder if there was a falling out there between Nintendo and Ubisoft.
I like the Rayman games
The day Robin and Lucina were revealed, when they ended up showing Rayman's trophy, people were so hyped, especially when Robin and Lucina kinda killed the Gematsu leak, but I suppose nowadays Rabbids are most likely to be the Ubisoft rep.
what happened to those people after Shulk came out
About the Gematsu leak?
Initially, even with Shulk, people considered it was dead because there was, of course, no Chrom and no Chorus Kids.
Then later on, when Sourcegaming did some datamining, they did find some shit relating to a potential Rythm heaven rep and/or stage, as well as interviews about Sakurai mentioning that they never really have a set Pokemon in mind at the start (thus why it was simply named Pokemon from X & Y and not Greninja), as well as his initial idea for the FE rep to be Chrom.
So the safe conclusion for most people was that what the guy had was an early and rough list of new characters for the game, and it just so happened that most of the characters on the list did end up being added.
It's all speculation and we will never know the whole truth, but between Gematsu for Smash 4 and Vergeben for Ultimate, I believe Gemastu was the most likely to have real information.
Roster homosexualry really ruined this series.
The ruining was on the development side. People saying X character would be cool in Brawl on GameFaqs has no influence.
Nah the game is fine
Speculation is ruined though because of rostergayottry and social media
Speculation was never good unless you are limiting range to just friends at school.
I would argue Smash bros for 3DS/Wii U made rosterhomosexualry even worse.
The idea of polluting directs with a newcomer trailer made Smash expected in most Nintendo directs for the following years (even for Ultimate), but worst of all? The number of third-party characters introduced.
Brawl was fair with Snake and Sonic. Base game for FOR with Megaman and Pacman, too. But then they added Ryu, Cloud and Bayonnetta and suddenly people only wanted third-party characters, with K. Rool and Ridley on the side. Ultimate's DLC now ended up setting the expectations way too high. Sora, Steve, Sephiroth, Kazuya, Banjo? Where do you go from there from a business point of view? I really hope it won't have shit like Goku or Luffy, third-parties already stole a part of what made Smash a Nintendo celebration with the occasional guest, but if they go this way we will lose the last bit of soul.
Ready to get even worse with Smash 6?
Twintelle should have taken Min Min's place. If only to shut the Resetera types up.
Min Min is the ARMS team leader's waifu, please understand.
frick Twintelle and Min Min, Lola Pop should be there instead
Mechanica should be there instead.
what are you talking about? minmin getting in is the best because it showed resetgay's true colors
I just miss the Smash Crossover art.
Banjo is a glorified cereal mascot.
wait until you see the commercial for the original game
I mean other than Banana Dee it was pretty good?
>Wii era character
>swordsman
Why did Travis get sent to mii hell?
because people overestimate him
kingdom hearts is fricking poopie
Fire Emblem reps should've just been Marth, Ike, Robin, and whoever the most recent MC is. No more, no less.
truth be told Ike shouldn't even be there
you're probably right but he's unique enough and cool enough that I'd prefer to keep him around
I can get behind this, Roy and Chrom are unnecessary but excluding Lucina feels wrong, she could easily inherit Chrom's moveset.
Sales be damned he is a genuinely good protagonist that warrants his popularity and has a unique moveset which you cannot take for granted with FE in Smash
>unique moveset is literally sword but slow
>meanwhile magics, form changing body parts that also doubles as a spear, and multiple weapons at the same time
I personally don't care about FE but I do find the hypocrisy hilarious
Corrin is a garbage character and the transformation gimmick is very underused. Even some of the moves that do use it like up-smash are not mucn different from Marth's.
Who in the EVERLOVING FRICK is LLOYD?! Fricking homosexual ASS name.
lurk moar newhomosexual Black person
>Europe has Jibanyan but Japan doesn't
Dafuq?