Why was Gold/Ethan never a final boss? Or at the very least a trainer you could battle?

Why was Gold/Ethan never a final boss? Or at the very least a trainer you could battle?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Idk, he is as the only champ (alongside Kris/Lyra, to be precise) missing from BW2 Champions tournament.

    He has no "canonical" team is the only thing I can think of

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      2: But wait I forgot: ALL the player-campions aside from the G1 champions are missing either way

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Idk, he is as the only champ (alongside Kris/Lyra, to be precise) missing from BW2 Champions tournament.
      Can you battle Dawn and Lucas in BW2?

      Besides, Red and Gold are pretty over rated. If we had pure feats to go on Lucas and Dawn are the undisputed greatest Trainers in all the games and thats not even mentioning how Legends is actually canonical in the main line games, Not only did they deal with Modern age Dialga and Palkia and Arceus they both even went back in time and created the original Poke-dexs and dealt with Origin form D and P and even Giritina and Arceus too. Literally GOD of Pokemon personally chose them all of all trainers including Red and Gold to go back in time and fix everything.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Can you battle Dawn and Lucas in BW2?
        See

        2: But wait I forgot: ALL the player-campions aside from the G1 champions are missing either way

        I choose to ignore your boring story/lore homosexualry

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Can you battle Dawn and Lucas in BW2?
        If they'd swtiched protagonists in the anime when they should have (after Advanced), you'd probably have been able to. Red was promoted in gen 2 partially because of his connection to Ash. Nobody knew at the time that Ash would be forced to lose all the time just to keep him on the show.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they both even went back in time
        No, that was Rei and Akari. Completely separate characters despite looking almost identical to Lucas and Dawn.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rei/Akari is the character that was already there, the gender counterpart that existed in Hisui before the player gets sent back. The player character from the future is Lucas/Dawn

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Calls Red and Gold overrated
        >When it's even worse with Dawn and Lucas
        lol

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's even worse with Dawn and Lucas
          How so?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the other protags besides Red? Johto's representation in PWT champions was Lance (who uses the only gen 2 mon in the whole bracket, Kingdra).

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He has no "canonical" team

      Isn't this his canon team?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >manga

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Sunflora

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >sudowoodo
          [...]
          lmaooo

          Gold canonically has a sudowoodo and sunflora.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            This doesn't magically make Sunflora not dogshit

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. He canonicaly has Lugia, Sudowood and Ho-Ho.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >sudowoodo

        [...]

        lmaooo

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A gold without red gyarados is soulless and wrong

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can't you just... er... link battle and pretend it's the TLB?

      >He has no "canonical" team is the only thing I can think of
      Typhlosion, Ampharos, Togetic/Togekiss, S-Gyarados, Tyranitar, Heracross.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because either Game Freak hates Johto or TPC/Nintendo hates Johto and doesn’t want Game Freak to acknowledge it.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Johtonmons are weak as shit lmao, he wouldn't be much of a challenge

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Still butt-hurt from when Whitney's Miltank raped you, huh?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking Kek XD

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

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        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          wow what a totally organic real first playthrough using the most busted move in the game

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          wow what a totally organic real first playthrough using the most busted move in the game

          So many people out there who mostly just base their opinions of Pokemon on how they do in competitive and in the battle tower, which is fair enough, but they don't end up seeing how broken Dunsparce is in the early Johto game.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      While mostly true, if he showed up in a game nowadays, they could give him a pretty good team.
      >Typhlosion
      >Togekiss
      >Scizor
      >Ursaluna
      >Tyranitar
      >Skarmory

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's gonna be
        >3 starters
        >Togetic
        >Sudowoodo
        >Umbreon

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe Gyarados instead of Umbreon

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Shining Red Gyarados

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        his manga team was aids garbage shitmons. he had a fricking pichu along with his signature togetic, sudowoodo, sunflora, and politoed. he also has approximately 1 million remoraids

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my headcanon, Gold has an umbreon on his team, opposite of Red's Espeon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The way I see it'd probably follow a similar logic to Red's with some deviances. My headcanon is this:
      >Typlosion (starter)
      >Ampharos (caught outside Violet City)
      >Togekiss (Mystery egg that hatched)
      >Scizor (bug catching contest winner)
      >Sudowoodo (blocked his way to ecruteak)
      >Red Gyarados (quelled at Lake of Rage)

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too powerful

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because GF hates him for being canonically stronger than RED from KANTO who uses PIKACHU, CHARIZARD and other Kantomons.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Crystal happened, which due to Kris, presented the roadblock of "but what if the player didn't play as Gold/Kris in GSC, and gets confused when they see them instead of the character they played?"

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      FRLG and Leaf's existence dudnt stop them from including Red in PWT tho

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because Red already cemented himself as the canon protagonist of GF's prime timeline of events before Leaf existed, which made his return in HGSS, B2W2 and Alola easy.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same with Gold though since he was part of Gold and Silver before Crystal existed.

          Kris was even replaced with Lyra while Gold wasnt in HGSS making it even more obvious that he's the main guy of those games.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yet GF still hasn't made him or any other protagonist an npc in mainline Pokemon after the game they were playable in, so they're obviously keeping some degree of that roadblock in mind, further compounded with games like Hoenn, Sinnoh and Kalos where the opposite gender PC is a distinct NPC, which could create further confusion such as "hey, when did Rowan's assistant become champion and thwart Team Galactic's ambitions?"

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah the opposite npc issue could be what caused it since the BW trainers were included and they didnt use the opposite gender as an npc. Looks like HGSS might have screwed Gold/Ethan's chances since since he became an opposite gender NPC there.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    GOLD/SILVER/CRYSTAL

    Still best pokemon games ever made.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ty i needed a new wp

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No problem sir, I am glad that you have good taste

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=cPhM4rNjQoja9UpO since you posted that image, theres

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gold has the best theme song. He's a secret boss in Crystal you can battle once a day

      His team is
      >Typhlosion
      >Togetic
      >Sudowoodo
      >Ho-oh
      >Gyarados
      >Umbreon

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      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron, this is just another player's team. It's the same as if you had mixed records in RSE and visited the person's secret base.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its still a plausible gold battle team

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, but you're not battling the canon Gold. This is headcanon, you could literally name your character Gold on another cart and give him a team of six Magikarp if you wanted

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tbf, Half of gold's team is based in the manga, evolved forms of togepi and cyndaquil, and sudowoodo. So there's some canonicity in there

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Special is a completely different canon, as is the anime

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gold has the best theme song. He's a secret boss in Crystal you can battle once a day

      His team is
      >Typhlosion
      >Togetic
      >Sudowoodo
      >Ho-oh
      >Gyarados
      >Umbreon

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      Gold has such an epic theme and he's easily the coolest protagonist in the franchise. Shame GF hates him

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      kindly stop shilling your own videos gaygeli

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off i'm not them

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Red was only the final boss, because Gold was supposed to be the final game, after a season of the anime as an ad for the series. But then Pokemania happened.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemania was pre-gen 2, my zoomer friend

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gen 2 was being worked on before pokemania started, considered Ho-oh was in the first episode of the anime.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        what an insane and moronic thing to say

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is also his anime version "Jimmy" from Pokemon Chronicles (The Legend of Thunder) with Beedrill in his team

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm betting you that if they allowed past protags to be fightable, they'd let you fight the male and female versions. only problem is coming up with teams for all of them.
    but i can bet you that gold would roll up with:
    >johto starters
    >a mon from the odd egg
    >sudowoodo
    >umbreon (goes best with the ninja aesthetic)
    and lyra would probably use the mons mentioned in her pokegear, so probably some shit like
    >azumarill
    >tauros
    >venusaur
    >porygon2
    >tangrowth
    >raticate
    then there's kris who i dunno what team she'd frickin have if they wanted to do some let's go shit and make her canon too.
    but i have the feeling she'd have shuckle

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      wait i'm moronic
      >kris gets the random odd egg mon due to it being crystal only
      >ethan/gold instead gets togekiss
      honestly there's a lot of shit i forgot to pull, here's my new thought:
      >ethan/gold
      >typhlosion, togekiss, umbreon, sudowoodo, hitmontop, shiny red gyarados
      >kris
      >meganium, a shiny mon from the odd egg, shuckle, dragonite with extremespeed, fearow, idk fricking hitmonchan?
      if gen 2 had any pika clones i'd suggest that but from the top of my head it's just pichu

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        PIKABLU

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another thing to note:

    - Gold only has an extremely short appearance in Pokemon Generations his arc mostly being shown from Lance's perspective

    - Silver gets more screentime than Gold

    In Evolutions, Gold (or the female counterparts) is the only trainer skipped, instead, they show the story of the burned tower

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      > extremely short appearance
      to clarify
      <-

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >defeats Red from KANTOOOO
      >TPC goes out of their way to try to erase him
      You can’t make this shit up

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      dont all the protags have similar appearances in generations? like all of them are usually there but off to the side and stuff is mostly focused on the villians or other npcs

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    game freak is/has always been autisticly opposed to doing the obvious even when the obvious choice is also the coolest choice. it's one of the defining qualities of the franchise

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gold has such an epic theme and he's easily the coolest protagonist in the franchise. Shame GF hates him

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    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Naah, they wouldn't have created him in the first place of they hated him

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Red can have all 3 starters despite Blue canonically choosing Blastoise then why can't Gold have all 3 Johto starters?

    If we're going to have him mirror Red I'd have his team

    >Typhlosion
    >Meganium
    >Feraligatr
    >Ampharos
    >Togetic/Togekiss

    As for last one, toss up between Sudowoodo, Heracross or Umbreon. I like the idea of Umbreon since Red has an Espeon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Red is from the Yellow version. The ultimate Gen I game.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We got adult red and blue
    >No adult Gold

    Bros....

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >green hair Kris
      STOP AIEEEE

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