thats not Ornstein, just some dumb poser who found his armor
The name "OLD dragonslayer" implies this is him in later years. He also pretty much become sluggish and even has fumbled animation when he does that jump attack.
that's the real Ornstein, the one in Anor Londo in DS1 is just an ilusion made by gwyndolin, only Smough is real. This is old news, it came out episode 439 of Vaati's vidya prepare to cry series, how fricking new are you that you didn't watch that episode?
have any of these loregays figured these out yet: >Rosaria is Gwynevere >Dragonslayer Armor belonged to Nameless King >the Painter is Gwyndolin&Friede's daughter
You find his set on a corpse behind Nameless King, the description says >Golden (piece name) associated with Dragonslayer Ornstein, from the age of gods, and imbued with the strength of lightning. >In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of the nameless king.
No, because it was confirmed by DS1 that most Gods abandoned the city to settle somewhere else. Ornstein was assisting Gwynevere and Flann the Flame God. It's very apperant from Heide that it was built by the colonisers from Anor Londo both from the architecture/monuments and there is a huge fricking lighthouse with flames on top dedicated to Flann. There are also statues that resemble Gwyn with only the difference being the heads.
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>this item is here >NOOOOOOOOO
breh, it literally is, schizo
bosses respawn at their bonfire didn't you play dark souls 3 when you fight bosses they don't actually live where you fight them they're just browsing.
The dragon in front of the old dragonslayer was zanzibar, and the dragonrider was actually created from a giant's soul by the scholar of the first sin in majula mansion
How do you mean overwrote? Not being argumentative just thought that all of the lands were converging on the ringed city so that’s why we see the desert pyromancer lurking as a nod to das2?
It's called drangleic because in DS3 they called it "drang" and in DS2 you go down a lake in the intro. So drangleic is like,,, Alice in Wonderland. Some anon told me that once lol. Remember that Domhnall of Zena sold replicas, it isn't too hard to attach the red mane back on. Could just be a big fan.
Dark souls 2 is you diving into the memory of the past via the abyss of deep waters. Originally the story was about time travel and that’s what you were doing in the opening. In the final product they conflated it with memories and so you entered the collective memory of a dead kingdom that manifests as a dream. It’s why nothing you do matters it’s why time is fricked. They had to salvage the product but ds3’s dreg heap is literally what they wanted to go for in ds2 but were unable.
Most of these games stories are fanfiction afterthoughts but typically you can pull together a throughline narrative by use of the themes and characters in the game.
man DS2 is so lame. i was late to the games, couldn't wait to get into it after my DS1 experience, and immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement. Everything is sliding around with no weight to it. Felt like an unfinished turd of a game rather than a worthy sequel.
Yep, just skip that one and play DS3 next. You can try to get back to DS2 after you finish all from games, but I wouldn't recommend it unles you like torturing yourself.
>man DS2 is so lame. i was late to the games, couldn't wait to get into it after my DS1 experience, and immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement. Everything is sliding around with no weight to it. Felt like an unfinished turd of a game rather than a worthy sequel.
Literally me but 10 years ago (grim)
>Everything is sliding around with no weight to it
Opinion instantly discarded. Did we even play the same game you fricking liar? You probably expect to speedrun to boss room skipping every enemies and infinitely roll around like chipmunk on cocaine, good to know you ADHD zoomers got filtered hard.
Yeah, DS2 has notoriously shitty controls and gamefeel. They changed the animation middleware and the new one is this weirdly weightly slidy limp nightmare.
Absolutely horrible. Small wonder the dropped that shit immediately and returned to their old system for other games.
man DS2 is so lame. i was late to the games, couldn't wait to get into it after my DS1 experience, and immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement. Everything is sliding around with no weight to it. Felt like an unfinished turd of a game rather than a worthy sequel.
You can fix it! A little bit. At least on Steam, where you can alter the deadzone of the control stick, or via nexusmods - and the gamefeel instantly feels much more like all the other Fromsoft games, though the animations are still off.
And YES, this means DS2's movement was an unintentional problem that needs outside interference to fix, and YES that means it's very shoddy compared to the other entries, and YES it means the dedicated DS2 fans are huffing copium 24/7.
>immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement
Also had this exactly with Elden Ring, spawned in that first room, rolled and was like “shit.”
Most likely a repurposed asset. A significant portion of DS2 had to be thrown together last minute. The same goes for DS1 and DS3 as well, people just don't really talk about it as much.
It's better that they just put him there rather than cut him entirely.
Ah yes well atleast they dont change characters and lore like elden cringe , shame bluepoint are just morons focused on graphic and fricking up designs to make themselves that cutted world woth shadows of the colossus remake shit
Because Dark Souls 2 was a shitty game they crowbarred into being Dark Souls at the last second when they realized they made something far too soulless for anyone to care about otherwise.
Nah, most players are just salty it isn't copying the braindead gameplay of DS1 and instead force you to play cautiously for once. Also, ADP into AGL into rolling makes a lot of entitled homosexual seethe.
>Nobody is hateposting
gameplay of DS1 (meaning it's le bad and le stupid, by your own words, DS2gay)
This is why everybody hates DS2 secondaries on top of the already shit game.
Here's to you seething for another 10 years, gay.
I'm no secondary you disingenuous homosexual as I've played all 3 DS to finish. Ironically you're the one parroting this 4chin and leddit stance that DS2 is the worst soul ever with zero rebuttal. >Here's to you seething for another 10 years, gay.
Oh the irony seeing this from 99999th DS2 hateposter.
You mean this giants in the cave below black gulch? (I have played only SotFS.) I don't think you are supposed to take them on with shield anyway, killed them with a bow from smaller cavern. Was very long, though.
Well, if rolls suck in 2, why not play with something else?
>*smokes 3 blunts*
Its the last traces of humanity that was burnt in the kiln in the first game. The player character surrendered humanity in order to become the dude that lights the flame, which is equivalent of achieving godhood. The shadow that was cast took some of the gear and it was cast away to drangleic. That is why he uses dark magic
That is because DS2 is a sequel-spin-off, that was supposed to be thousands and thousands of years later.
Within current timeline one could say, that DS2 can, potentially, happen way after The End of Fire DS3 ending with Age of Dark begins, happens and ends with new Flame arising, then many years after remains of souls of Gwyn, Fire Witch, Seath, and Nito being reborn as/absorbed by Prince-Old Iron King, Princess-Sinner, Spider (or dragon, devoured by Spider) and The Rotten respectively, given completely new lives and new fates.
>Why was Ornstein in Drangleic?
Lore wise it's just a shard of his soul using a suit of armor as a vessel itself. The Ornstein fight is a trial to see if you're worthy enough to join the Blue Sentinels.
>DS2homosexual secondary still ass blasted about his first game being a the shit one
The Souls trilogy is Demon's, Dark and Dark III.
Cope with this to the grave.
Extremely bad writing. Heide's Tower of Flame was meant to be a bootleg Anor Londo Cathedral, so the same guy is in both places.
Anyone that says it's not meant to be the real Ornstein is coping, btw.
Gameplay wise, DS2 wanted optional bosses for covenants, so here's some DS1 asset reuse.
As much as I agree that DS2 was heavily flawed, it will never not be funny to me that someone made a ten hour review response. Not a review of the game, but a video made solely to criticize someone else's review of the game, and to the tune of ~600 minutes
People made constructive arguments against DS2haters time and time again over the course of 10 years yet they were all ignored on every occasion by the shitters like you that kept resorting to disinformation and fallacies in order to uphold their position. You are all disingenuous homosexuals. Literal subhumans that don't amount to anything in real life. Typical braindead consumers that eat up slop after slop. You are not worth anyone's time.
I sometimes feel like the only person that likes DS2, sure it definitely wasn't as polished as 1 but I enjoyed the game still and the DLCs were great too loved all the extra content too and how you could choose to play the early game in a different order if you didn't want to do Lost Bastile first but would rather Iron Keep or the gutter etc. Feel like a lot of the hate is unjustified.
You're not. Thing is current zoomer generation is too deeply impressioned that every soul must basically be Gael boss fight with constant spasm and jerky reaction and zero thoughts. The le epic soul battle XD meme.
maybe it's just some dude wearing his armor
The name "OLD dragonslayer" implies this is him in later years. He also pretty much become sluggish and even has fumbled animation when he does that jump attack.
thats not Ornstein, just some dumb poser who found his armor
that's the real Ornstein, the one in Anor Londo in DS1 is just an ilusion made by gwyndolin, only Smough is real. This is old news, it came out episode 439 of Vaati's vidya prepare to cry series, how fricking new are you that you didn't watch that episode?
but on episode 512 Vaati's vidya he said that the real ornstein followed the path of the unkown king. Who is in the wrong here?! I DEMAND ANSWERS!!
Vaati hasn't said a single thing that is true. Watch the Hawkshaw lad if you want non fanfic Fromsoft lore
>Hawkshaw
>non fanfic
The man's videos are pure, rambling fanfic
have any of these loregays figured these out yet:
>Rosaria is Gwynevere
>Dragonslayer Armor belonged to Nameless King
>the Painter is Gwyndolin&Friede's daughter
What are these ass-pull questions?
could you rephrase that question in English pls
The real Ornstein went to Archdragon Peak though.
proof?
You find his set on a corpse behind Nameless King, the description says
>Golden (piece name) associated with Dragonslayer Ornstein, from the age of gods, and imbued with the strength of lightning.
>In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of the nameless king.
No, because it was confirmed by DS1 that most Gods abandoned the city to settle somewhere else. Ornstein was assisting Gwynevere and Flann the Flame God. It's very apperant from Heide that it was built by the colonisers from Anor Londo both from the architecture/monuments and there is a huge fricking lighthouse with flames on top dedicated to Flann. There are also statues that resemble Gwyn with only the difference being the heads.
>this item is here
>NOOOOOOOOO
breh, it literally is, schizo
>brainlet homosexual
Concession accepted.
oh, you're an ESL, that explains the illiteracy
It's the European hours smelly mutt.
bosses respawn at their bonfire didn't you play dark souls 3 when you fight bosses they don't actually live where you fight them they're just browsing.
Deepest lore it actually makes sense
The dragon in front of the old dragonslayer was zanzibar, and the dragonrider was actually created from a giant's soul by the scholar of the first sin in majula mansion
Dark Souls 2 is not canon.
Nothing that happens in DS2 matters
ds3 is ds1 fanfiction
I hate to say it but das3 canonized das2 in the ringed city dlc
lmao, it overwrote DS2
How do you mean overwrote? Not being argumentative just thought that all of the lands were converging on the ringed city so that’s why we see the desert pyromancer lurking as a nod to das2?
It's called drangleic because in DS3 they called it "drang" and in DS2 you go down a lake in the intro. So drangleic is like,,, Alice in Wonderland. Some anon told me that once lol. Remember that Domhnall of Zena sold replicas, it isn't too hard to attach the red mane back on. Could just be a big fan.
Dark souls 2 is you diving into the memory of the past via the abyss of deep waters. Originally the story was about time travel and that’s what you were doing in the opening. In the final product they conflated it with memories and so you entered the collective memory of a dead kingdom that manifests as a dream. It’s why nothing you do matters it’s why time is fricked. They had to salvage the product but ds3’s dreg heap is literally what they wanted to go for in ds2 but were unable.
>Dark souls 2 is
....fanfic
Most of these games stories are fanfiction afterthoughts but typically you can pull together a throughline narrative by use of the themes and characters in the game.
>Most of these games stories are fanfiction
brainlet tier take. don't post again
Again.
They literally can't be fanfiction by definition since they're not made by fans but by the original author.
Miyazaki just post his name to avoid dork souls 2 controversy so he groomed troonymura as the soulslike Black person director/producer
learning dark magic
what was he doing in Anor Londo, just dicking around protecting an Illusion?
man DS2 is so lame. i was late to the games, couldn't wait to get into it after my DS1 experience, and immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement. Everything is sliding around with no weight to it. Felt like an unfinished turd of a game rather than a worthy sequel.
Yep, just skip that one and play DS3 next. You can try to get back to DS2 after you finish all from games, but I wouldn't recommend it unles you like torturing yourself.
>man DS2 is so lame. i was late to the games, couldn't wait to get into it after my DS1 experience, and immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement. Everything is sliding around with no weight to it. Felt like an unfinished turd of a game rather than a worthy sequel.
Literally me but 10 years ago (grim)
Yeah, I went into DS2 after being amazed by DS1, and wanting to go in blind and piece together the lore of ds2 by myself.
DS2 and 3 were disappointments that reminded me to temper my expectations.
>Everything is sliding around with no weight to it
Opinion instantly discarded. Did we even play the same game you fricking liar? You probably expect to speedrun to boss room skipping every enemies and infinitely roll around like chipmunk on cocaine, good to know you ADHD zoomers got filtered hard.
Yeah, DS2 has notoriously shitty controls and gamefeel. They changed the animation middleware and the new one is this weirdly weightly slidy limp nightmare.
Absolutely horrible. Small wonder the dropped that shit immediately and returned to their old system for other games.
You can fix it! A little bit. At least on Steam, where you can alter the deadzone of the control stick, or via nexusmods - and the gamefeel instantly feels much more like all the other Fromsoft games, though the animations are still off.
And YES, this means DS2's movement was an unintentional problem that needs outside interference to fix, and YES that means it's very shoddy compared to the other entries, and YES it means the dedicated DS2 fans are huffing copium 24/7.
>immediately I knew it was going to be a disappointment from the movement
Also had this exactly with Elden Ring, spawned in that first room, rolled and was like “shit.”
>DS2troony: "I pressed a button and it ripped my stinkditch AAIEE"
Heide its just anus londo after who know how many milleniums
he was looking for the myrmidon giant the old friend of zanzibar
where does it say tower of flame was part of drangleic and not an independent state
Most likely a repurposed asset. A significant portion of DS2 had to be thrown together last minute. The same goes for DS1 and DS3 as well, people just don't really talk about it as much.
It's better that they just put him there rather than cut him entirely.
Its all their games besides demon souls bloodborne and dork souls 1
Black person demons souls had an entire region cut and has all sorts of cut shit in the data.
Ah yes well atleast they dont change characters and lore like elden cringe , shame bluepoint are just morons focused on graphic and fricking up designs to make themselves that cutted world woth shadows of the colossus remake shit
Because Dark Souls 2 was a shitty game they crowbarred into being Dark Souls at the last second when they realized they made something far too soulless for anyone to care about otherwise.
Nah, most players are just salty it isn't copying the braindead gameplay of DS1 and instead force you to play cautiously for once. Also, ADP into AGL into rolling makes a lot of entitled homosexual seethe.
>DS2gay hates DS1
Every time.
Venn Diagram is a circle.
Secondaries just keep being subhuman.
Nobody is hateposting here except you, nice coping though.
>Nobody is hateposting
gameplay of DS1 (meaning it's le bad and le stupid, by your own words, DS2gay)
This is why everybody hates DS2 secondaries on top of the already shit game.
Here's to you seething for another 10 years, gay.
I'm no secondary you disingenuous homosexual as I've played all 3 DS to finish. Ironically you're the one parroting this 4chin and leddit stance that DS2 is the worst soul ever with zero rebuttal.
>Here's to you seething for another 10 years, gay.
Oh the irony seeing this from 99999th DS2 hateposter.
Funny, how some people complain about gameplay of 2. I played with shield and big sword and hadn't noticed much difference with 1.
Try rolling and youll see the difference also unless you didnt finished gisnts bypass your shields unlike 1 because bullshit
You mean this giants in the cave below black gulch? (I have played only SotFS.) I don't think you are supposed to take them on with shield anyway, killed them with a bow from smaller cavern. Was very long, though.
Well, if rolls suck in 2, why not play with something else?
>*smokes 3 blunts*
Its the last traces of humanity that was burnt in the kiln in the first game. The player character surrendered humanity in order to become the dude that lights the flame, which is equivalent of achieving godhood. The shadow that was cast took some of the gear and it was cast away to drangleic. That is why he uses dark magic
Because dark souls 2 is a bad game?
That is because DS2 is a sequel-spin-off, that was supposed to be thousands and thousands of years later.
Within current timeline one could say, that DS2 can, potentially, happen way after The End of Fire DS3 ending with Age of Dark begins, happens and ends with new Flame arising, then many years after remains of souls of Gwyn, Fire Witch, Seath, and Nito being reborn as/absorbed by Prince-Old Iron King, Princess-Sinner, Spider (or dragon, devoured by Spider) and The Rotten respectively, given completely new lives and new fates.
Nope because you have the summons /invasions of ds2 characters and items dating they re older
He wanted to play Dark Souls 2
>Why was Ornstein in Drangleic?
Lore wise it's just a shard of his soul using a suit of armor as a vessel itself. The Ornstein fight is a trial to see if you're worthy enough to join the Blue Sentinels.
You people still try to deny it, but
>this
is Shanalotte / Emerald Herald.
Or the 4th PREPARE TO DIE fire guardian
Glad to see Ganker is still mind broken 10 years later
>DS2homosexual secondary still ass blasted about his first game being a the shit one
The Souls trilogy is Demon's, Dark and Dark III.
Cope with this to the grave.
Dark Souls 3 has 4 accessory slots, after Dark Souls 2. Therefore, DS3 is a bad copy of DS2.
Dark Souls 1 was my first but nice try tho
Extremely bad writing. Heide's Tower of Flame was meant to be a bootleg Anor Londo Cathedral, so the same guy is in both places.
Anyone that says it's not meant to be the real Ornstein is coping, btw.
Gameplay wise, DS2 wanted optional bosses for covenants, so here's some DS1 asset reuse.
Maybe he was on holiday
He was there to smell your bum (OP). Not the general player not the in game character. Specifically OPs bum. And the smell was found wanting.
lore went out the door after 1 everything else was just for popularity terribly explained by content farmers and bent out of shape fanboys
To get to the other side.
I had most fun with DS2 PvP. Only negative things I can say about DS2 is lack of proper red eye orb, soul memory and semen magic.
...and I still think that 30k SM run is the most "funnest" challenge run. Better than SL1.
Because time is convoluted
Even after a decade DS2 is still my benchmark for broken hitboxes. If your hitboxes are anything like DS2's you fricked up big time.
As much as I agree that DS2 was heavily flawed, it will never not be funny to me that someone made a ten hour review response. Not a review of the game, but a video made solely to criticize someone else's review of the game, and to the tune of ~600 minutes
>DS2troony dickripped crying about Mauler for the 5000th time
Mauler sucks
...dicks.
>average DS2 hater
look at this morbidly obese subhuman that thinks his trash takes matter to anyone other than the lowest of lows.
>do you have any arguments lol
>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT THAT'S TOO LONG
Utterly destroyed and mindbroken.
People made constructive arguments against DS2haters time and time again over the course of 10 years yet they were all ignored on every occasion by the shitters like you that kept resorting to disinformation and fallacies in order to uphold their position. You are all disingenuous homosexuals. Literal subhumans that don't amount to anything in real life. Typical braindead consumers that eat up slop after slop. You are not worth anyone's time.
>he likes the trash that is DS2
>but somehow I'm, the braindead consumer
Utterly destroyed and mindbroken.
>Utterly destroyed and mindbroken.
Yep that is you still malding and sobbing for 10 years everyday on Ganker.
>no u
Utterly destroyed and mindbroken.
Can't even refute the fact that you are crying and sobbing about a game for a decade every day. lmao Sad sack of shit.
>N-NO U!
Utterly destroyed and mindbroken.
>dickripped DS2troony status: permanently seething
reduced to screeching and samegayging KEK
>newbie shitter doesn't even know what samegayging means
lmao This is the average Fromslopper on Ganker these days.
he came to see the dragons
I sometimes feel like the only person that likes DS2, sure it definitely wasn't as polished as 1 but I enjoyed the game still and the DLCs were great too loved all the extra content too and how you could choose to play the early game in a different order if you didn't want to do Lost Bastile first but would rather Iron Keep or the gutter etc. Feel like a lot of the hate is unjustified.
>ChatGPT, write me a generic DS2fanboy copepost
lel
>chatGPT, write me a generic DS1fanboy coping about DS2 post
lel
>N-N-NO UUUUUU
anon was right, utterly destroyed and mindbroken
You're not. Thing is current zoomer generation is too deeply impressioned that every soul must basically be Gael boss fight with constant spasm and jerky reaction and zero thoughts. The le epic soul battle XD meme.
because the director is a fricking hack who didn't know what the frick he was doing