because it was expected. the switch is known to be a piece of shit.
meanwhile the xbox and PS5 just had a price increase and they're still trying to sell consumers they have top of the line epic grafix.
He can go full speed 100m without even running out of breath anon. He clearly is the best runner
what do you mean it doesn't count if he's in an electric wheelchair? It totally does.
Truth be told my OS does run on a hard drive due to the fact that I have bought a computer in the last ten years. I don't generally like saving things to my C: drive though
You just use the SSD for games and OS, you don't need 20tb. I swear you're gonna feel like a moron when you finally get one and understand what you've been missing. They're dirt cheap now too.
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
Cause they said 60 would be standard and these consoles would be stronger than they actually are.
cross gen almost made it seem like 120 was about to be standard, but it didn't stick.
No one with a choice i play tf2 on console.
It was abandoned in 2008 after valve refused to make content that was free on PC paid for console (sony an MS wanted that).
>console versions are free from hathomosexualry
based
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If you want to be free from that, tf2 classic is better.
they even added qol like 130fov (which is super refreshing as someone that loves high fov and cannot stand anything lower than 100)
TOTK runs on a piece of shit that was outdated in 2017 and still has better art direction and physics than Bethesda games. I hate TOTK but come on, Starfield being locked to 30fps when it's a game for PC and Xbox Series X is ridiculous. If you can play it at 4k/30 why can't you play it at 1440p/60 or 1080p/60? Because Bethesda programmers are shit. Meanwhile TOTK literally cannot have a better framerate on the fricking Switch.
There is no way it will run at 60 on deck, I say this as someone who uses a Steam Deck regularly.
If you're lucky or lower settings you might get 40 at most.
FSR and ultra low I think I can get 50 at least. Remember that consoles prefer quality over performance so just dropping shadows and lod goes a long way.
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
Because it's the Switch, which came out in 2017 and is a glorified Pii U Slim. The PS5 and Xbox Series X are supposed to be next-gen gaming consoles for hardcore gamers and even have R A Y T R A C I N G and 4K capabilities. Now here comes a game that could possibly be the first true next-gen gaming experience and it's fricking 720p30 like all the games on PS4/Xbone.
If you play on consoles and complain about framerate, I don't know what to tell you. It's like going into mcdonalds and complaining about the poor selection of wine and lack of quality food.
Look at this loaded language. The headline is careful not to piss off Bethesda by announcing "STARFIELD CAPPED AT 30FPS" knowing people would be rightfully mad. No, the "story" is "GAMERS ARE MAD (those silly little billies)"
Gotta toe that line.
Reminder that MS considers the Series S the "standard" machine and the X is just the mid-gen "pro" upgrade. This current gen won't see any significant improvements.
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
Because the Switch is a console with the power of an Xbox 360 (two generations ago). You can't ask for more in that shitty hardware.
Who's mad though? I saw the outrage and shit for Redfall, but I haven't seen or heard much of anything for Starfield. Why try to stir up fake outrage and controversy?
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
imho 30ish fps in TotK is forgivable because it's in 3rd-person pov. If anything it's the slight fps hiccups in dense areas that's an issue regarding fps.
It's the first-person pov games that NEED 60 fps at the LEAST, imho. Especially if it's a shooting game. 30fps and in third-person pov, Starfield will probably play alright though.
why anon? lol
My guess is it's the fov of most third-person pov games. You can see more without having to constantly turn/move/adjust the camera as much.
In first-person games, my head is usually on a swivel, keepin an eye out n shit. It's actual pain when the fps is around 30 in those cases, especially if fov is > 95 degrees. But hey, that's just me
¯_(ツ)_/¯
>all were criticized >the only one that promised 60fps was XVI >which was also the one that had the audacity to shill itself like it wouldn't need a day one patch
why is FF the only one being defended right now?
because nintentards will eat up any slop they're given, they are blind to aliasing or 15fps. now bethesdrones aren't far off but most people still get that this is bad
Your brain creates smooth images around 25fps and above. You cannot distinguish past about 75fps because your eyes cannot differentiate. Higher than that is only helpful due to accuracy of rendering closer to real time.
So 30 fps is objectively not a bad experience. Up to 75 can look more aesthetic. Above that is simply to see frames faster.
I have a 13700K and a 6700 XT, pretty sure I will be able to run it at high than 40 FPS. Especially at 1080p. Consoles are aiming a much higher resolution
Switch games are capped at 30 fps and no one panics, because it's all part of the plan. A single Xbox game is capped at 30 fps and everyone loses their minds.
>Bloodborne locked at 30 with massive frame drops >HAHAHA PC NEVER EVER FRICKING GOTYAY SONY WON >Starfield locked at 30 >HAHAHA LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE SONY WON
If games like the new Cyberbug DLC or even a fricking interactive movie like FFXVI can't run at 60fps, why would you think that the most ambitious game ever made will be able to do it
Honestly singleplayer games on controller are fine at 30fps. Games that run like shit on my pc and are unplayable on kbm I had no problem playing once I plugged a controller in.
>handheld game that has to conform to battery constraints >piece of shit that will be handicapped for years due to updates breaking mods for years
They literally are different. Any moron here speaking to quality control doesn't know what the frick they are talking about
hey now thats different okay?
Tendies have no standards. It's why they defended BotW/TotK running like shit.
Mario, Zelda and Pokemon are just different, ok?
because it was expected. the switch is known to be a piece of shit.
meanwhile the xbox and PS5 just had a price increase and they're still trying to sell consumers they have top of the line epic grafix.
For the same reason you can’t get mad at someone in a wheelchair not being able to make it up stairs
Excellent
In that case, you don't get to say they are the objectively best runner for that ulyear under the same breath.
He can go full speed 100m without even running out of breath anon. He clearly is the best runner
what do you mean it doesn't count if he's in an electric wheelchair? It totally does.
Because just like they will for starfield, real chads played TotK at 60fps on PC
Zelda fans are not gamers
Honestly the cap I am mad at os the SSD requirement rather than allowing me to use my HDD
forget not having an SSD, why do you even have a hard drive in 2023?
Because I like saving things. I have a 20tb hard drive and I have used 12tb of it. A 20tb SSD would cost a fortune in comparison
ok fair, but that should be in a NAS.
why don't you have an SSD then? if you play games you should have gotten one 10 years ago.
Truth be told my OS does run on a hard drive due to the fact that I have bought a computer in the last ten years. I don't generally like saving things to my C: drive though
>does run on a hard drive
I meant SSD
You just use the SSD for games and OS, you don't need 20tb. I swear you're gonna feel like a moron when you finally get one and understand what you've been missing. They're dirt cheap now too.
Nobody expects anything good from Nintendo. We have higher expectations from Bethesda.
Are gamers mad about ffxvi not being 60fps? Or dropping as low as 720p?
Ganker certainly hasn't stopped talking about it.
I loved TotK, loving FF16 now.
I'll maybe play Starfield next year but only on PC where it belongs.
Yes, it's actually a fairly common thing even outside of Ganker.
Because no one really cares about it. So long as you can play the game without any serious hitches.
Gamer here. I'm not mad. Fake news.
>capped
consolegays lmao
>he says while posting a Nintendo character because there are no notable PC characters
I love Nintendo. Great games and they always run buttery smooth on PC.
>no notable PC characters
>both are featured in official releases on consoles
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
Cause they said 60 would be standard and these consoles would be stronger than they actually are.
cross gen almost made it seem like 120 was about to be standard, but it didn't stick.
No one with a choice i play tf2 on console.
It was abandoned in 2008 after valve refused to make content that was free on PC paid for console (sony an MS wanted that).
>console versions are free from hathomosexualry
based
If you want to be free from that, tf2 classic is better.
they even added qol like 130fov (which is super refreshing as someone that loves high fov and cannot stand anything lower than 100)
>no notable pc characters
It’s also okay when Todd does it. Ganker is a pro-Todd board.
>deal with it
Ok.
>changes one line in ini
Silky smooth 400fps with fricked up physics for me, homosexual.
BUH NIBTEBBO
The Switch was not sold on how powerful it is. The Series X was.
TOTK runs on a piece of shit that was outdated in 2017 and still has better art direction and physics than Bethesda games. I hate TOTK but come on, Starfield being locked to 30fps when it's a game for PC and Xbox Series X is ridiculous. If you can play it at 4k/30 why can't you play it at 1440p/60 or 1080p/60? Because Bethesda programmers are shit. Meanwhile TOTK literally cannot have a better framerate on the fricking Switch.
I'm not mad, I'll be playing on Steam Deck at 60.
There is no way it will run at 60 on deck, I say this as someone who uses a Steam Deck regularly.
If you're lucky or lower settings you might get 40 at most.
FSR and ultra low I think I can get 50 at least. Remember that consoles prefer quality over performance so just dropping shadows and lod goes a long way.
>quality over performance
Anon, performance IS quality
>playing bethesda's games on consoles
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
Because it's the Switch, which came out in 2017 and is a glorified Pii U Slim. The PS5 and Xbox Series X are supposed to be next-gen gaming consoles for hardcore gamers and even have R A Y T R A C I N G and 4K capabilities. Now here comes a game that could possibly be the first true next-gen gaming experience and it's fricking 720p30 like all the games on PS4/Xbone.
If you play on consoles and complain about framerate, I don't know what to tell you. It's like going into mcdonalds and complaining about the poor selection of wine and lack of quality food.
capped at 30fps on xbox*
because the switch is a shitbox, while my pc isnt.
apples and oranges, moron.
Look at this loaded language. The headline is careful not to piss off Bethesda by announcing "STARFIELD CAPPED AT 30FPS" knowing people would be rightfully mad. No, the "story" is "GAMERS ARE MAD (those silly little billies)"
Gotta toe that line.
gotta have them review copies coming
>it's okay it's stable 30fps
>in reality it's stable 25 with dips into the low 20s
>gamers
ALL gamers are mad, even though only a portion will be forced to play at 30 fps! Surely.
Tendies aren’t people let alone gamers
It's ok when Nintendo does it,
Reminder that MS considers the Series S the "standard" machine and the X is just the mid-gen "pro" upgrade. This current gen won't see any significant improvements.
>why are people expecting more from newer non portable hardware
why are snoys like this?
FPS is basically a case of "The Emperor's New Clothes"
People just pretend it matters.
>Gamers
AKA
>Console gays
Just buy a fricking PC, morons
Xbox literally promised that 60fps would be the standard and able to reach 120fps.
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
Because the Switch is a console with the power of an Xbox 360 (two generations ago). You can't ask for more in that shitty hardware.
Because of expectations
Who's mad though? I saw the outrage and shit for Redfall, but I haven't seen or heard much of anything for Starfield. Why try to stir up fake outrage and controversy?
redfall was going to be bad no matter what FPS it ran at; whilst Starfield actually looks rather good despite the imposed limit.
no, plenty of people were in fact mad about this.
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
imho 30ish fps in TotK is forgivable because it's in 3rd-person pov. If anything it's the slight fps hiccups in dense areas that's an issue regarding fps.
It's the first-person pov games that NEED 60 fps at the LEAST, imho. Especially if it's a shooting game. 30fps and in third-person pov, Starfield will probably play alright though.
>forgivable because it's in 3rd-person
why anon? lol
My guess is it's the fov of most third-person pov games. You can see more without having to constantly turn/move/adjust the camera as much.
In first-person games, my head is usually on a swivel, keepin an eye out n shit. It's actual pain when the fps is around 30 in those cases, especially if fov is > 95 degrees. But hey, that's just me
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Remember when people hereu 5-10 years were insisting >30fps was completely pointless PC homosexualry and no one could even see it.
>30 fps is pointless beyond aesthetics. It doesn't impact the actual gameplay.
haha, yeah, the console coping will never end
at least now they can get a whole TB storage (wow) in addition to sometimes having games above 30 fps.
what's todays console cope equivalent to
>30 frames are totally enough dude
?
30 fps is literally enough. Scientifically
>suddenly when a game doesn't get a Snoy release, people start heightening their standards
Most PS5 games run 60fps, and FF16 us getting lambasted for performance issues for not doing so.
they were OP
>all were criticized
>the only one that promised 60fps was XVI
>which was also the one that had the audacity to shill itself like it wouldn't need a day one patch
why is FF the only one being defended right now?
>why is FF the only one being defended right now?
square enix defenders + snoygros mainstream media bias
because nintentards will eat up any slop they're given, they are blind to aliasing or 15fps. now bethesdrones aren't far off but most people still get that this is bad
Your brain creates smooth images around 25fps and above. You cannot distinguish past about 75fps because your eyes cannot differentiate. Higher than that is only helpful due to accuracy of rendering closer to real time.
So 30 fps is objectively not a bad experience. Up to 75 can look more aesthetic. Above that is simply to see frames faster.
You're forgetting input lag. The biggest difference between 30 and 60 is responsiveness. Games feel sluggish at 30.
I do feel like it is okay to cap animations and shit at 30 fps. Idk it look good like film.
>Why werent gamers mad at TOTK being capped at 30fps too?
TotK isn't capped at 30fps
It's a miracle if it gets that high for more than a few seconds.
Switch is for kids, playstation is fore real mature gamers
Switch hardware versus limitless master race
I have a 13700K and a 6700 XT, pretty sure I will be able to run it at high than 40 FPS. Especially at 1080p. Consoles are aiming a much higher resolution
>why is Ganker hypocritical and contrarian?
Anon…
Nincucks have no standards whatsoever.
The switch would probably kill itself trying to run that game on 60fps
>why are handhelds and knock off PCs treated differently
Also, everyone complaining is a moron because 30 is all you need.
its okay when nintendo does it
>Ganker - Video Games
One is running on hardware equivalent to a PS3, another is running on current gen hardware. Now that wasn't so hard was it?
Switch games are capped at 30 fps and no one panics, because it's all part of the plan. A single Xbox game is capped at 30 fps and everyone loses their minds.
Because the switch is a cheaper console with portability in mind. That’s like complaining about gaming laptops being overpriced.
pc gamers have better penises than other gamers.
>Bloodborne locked at 30 with massive frame drops
>HAHAHA PC NEVER EVER FRICKING GOTYAY SONY WON
>Starfield locked at 30
>HAHAHA LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE SONY WON
>locked at 30 with massive frame drops
Not very well locked at all, then, is it?
capped, whatever, don't be pedantic
I'll be pedantic if it sheds more light on delicious consolecuck cope.
That didn't illuminate anything and was a completely superfluous differentiation
It points out the fact that consoleshit can't even reach the pathetic cap they assign.
What he wrote already conveyed that. So how did your correction in any way provide more information?
Because "locked" at 30 implies that it could go above that when it actually can't.
No, it doesn't. That's not what the word "locked" means
Locked at a framerate means it can't deviate from it, capped at a framerate means it can't exceed it.
Firstly, that contradicts what you just said.
Secondly, locked fps isn't a thing. There are only caps
it's good, unlike Slopfield
Because people hold low expectations of both Nintendo and the Switch. But a Bethesda game on the Xbox is a whole different story
And yet no soul will care that it is 30 fps once it releases
NinteBlack folk don't even know what fps is
If games like the new Cyberbug DLC or even a fricking interactive movie like FFXVI can't run at 60fps, why would you think that the most ambitious game ever made will be able to do it
Gamers? You mean console players?
Switch is a weak piece of shit that can't even run PS2 games at 60FPS
Starfield releases on substantially stronger hardware
It's worse than 30 fps. And not even 4K. Modern consoles are a joke.
>literally who twit
I hope you are joking
It's OK when Nintendo does it.
Because they got fooled into thinking the series x was actually a capable piece of hardware and not just another shitbox.
are you moronic or just pretending? The switch is basically 15 year old hardware tech wise.
MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER
PLAY YOUR GAME AT 60-120FPS
lol
Honestly singleplayer games on controller are fine at 30fps. Games that run like shit on my pc and are unplayable on kbm I had no problem playing once I plugged a controller in.
>30 fps in 2023
Kek, I've been playing at 240hz for 6 years now. 120hz since 2010.
>handheld game that has to conform to battery constraints
>piece of shit that will be handicapped for years due to updates breaking mods for years
They literally are different. Any moron here speaking to quality control doesn't know what the frick they are talking about
>capped
Frick off zoomer subhumans