Why's this shit so popular in Japan but no one in the west seems to care? The entire series, I mean
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Why's this shit so popular in Japan but no one in the west seems to care? The entire series, I mean
It's Final Fantasy but without anything that makes Final Fantasy visually appealing.
I prefer final fantasy and classic megaten
Dragon Quest combines the Japanese population's love of branded mascots (i.e. all the familiar monsters in the series, from Slime to Dracky, etc.) with their love of things being incredibly safe and predictable. It's their "comfort food" of video games. I can see the appeal of a franchise you love never really going "bad" because of a drastic change in direction, but DQ has to be one of the blandest series in existence. It's the kind of game where you always need to wait for the definitive edition (or port) with all the QOL improvements because the base game is so fricking dull and grindy.
now I see why pokmn is so popular in japan too
Pokemon is like the West's version of DQ. Not particularly good and never evolved but very comforting
>but DQ has to be one of the blandest series in existence
what??? The series is amzing and has a extremely good understanding of why adveture is human
Isn't it changing genre for DQ12? As in being some weird action RPG Like FF7:RE is
This, we need more trans kweens and people of color in DQ and a trans-friendly character creator. It's not vibrant enough by current year standards.
It came out at a time when the fantasy/rpg games market was oversaturated. The cherry on top was the localization replacing every japanese element that could make it stand out with generic western fantasy elements.
Because when the frick has the west ever aligned with something that actually makes sense to like
WW2
because it's bland and boring
dragon ball (also toriyama, ironically)
mario
pokemon
pac-man
zelda
dark souls
street fighter
tekken
list goes on
>because it's bland and boring
they make masterpiece all the time
>street fighter
On that note, its sister series Darkstalkers is another one of those things that was big in Japan but the west never cared about.
because every game in the series is the exact fricking same
just like how half of FF games are the same with MUH BIG BAD EMPIRE
What’s the issue with that? It’s not a bad formula, and most of the games differentiate the story enough to make it enjoyable. My two favorite DQ titles are IX and VIII, and they’re wildly different from one another.
NoA burned money localizing and promoting the first four games to the point they had to giveaway unsold copies of the games via Nintendo Power for free.
meant for
NoA only localized the first game. The rest were handled by Enix.
They barely got released in the west and the ones that did never got marketed.
because is ajapan thing, even pokemon copied it and its big in japan too
what makes it more japanese than the other japanese stuff
the monster designs ?
looks like digimon
This is amazing never seen such a comparison before.
>This is amazing never seen such a comparison before.
because they look diferent? even the colors desing are totally diferent
It's always interesting to see different franchises' takes on the same monster concept.
intresting the pokemon one looks cute
the dragon quest one looks goofy
and the digimon one looks dangerous
My beloved Momonja
>no muk/slime comparison
botched releases in usa
It's final fantasy if it were good, but american zoomies grew up with final fantasy so they prefer that
>zoomies
Try millennials, I don't think zoomers generally give a crap about FF. Late SNES era through early PS2 though it was big. It adds a lot of convenience from Dragon Quest that makes that series off-putting. A lot of DQ is either moneygrinding or just making sure you don't die for a really long time, so you can afford better gear to tackle the next areas. In FF you end up feeling like an idiot if you actually buy gear because they'll give you the same shit for free 10 minutes later. I think that's why FF is bigger here, there's a lot of "yeah you can do this but you don't HAAaave to."
westoids have no taste and you will likely get racist cope to try justify it
and you are from?
we never got the main games back then, and it stunted the series outside japan
-no dq 1...2....3....5....6 snes
-no dq4 ps1
square enix was full fricking moron
and then we got dq7 ps1 for some reason
they actually tried with dq8 PS2 and even added content
but then fricked it again with dq4 ds by removing half the script by disabling party chat and fricking the script with accents
idk dq in the west is always a mixed bag
now there's so many fricking spinoffs localized that no one wants them
>but then fricked it again with dq4 ds
we got translations for those if you want them
Why do these games use the bong version of english?
what are you talking about the 8th was a huge success and the 9th sold for 5.3 million you just have to ignore the previous episodes because they are unplayable
Real answer: prior to FF7, the audience for RPGs was almost entirel on PC. DQ was made sort of as a lighthearted take on Ultima, and peopl in the West were alraedy playing shit like Ultima, The Bard's Tale, various AD&D CRPGs, etc. So when Dragon Warrior was around on the NES, it felt overly simplified compared to those games, and most people playing the NES were children that latched onto more action-oriented games. When console RPGs finally got popular here with FF7, the latest DQ game was DQVII, which had really low quality graphics compared to the popular RPGs of the time and just came across as boring. DQVIII got a pretty big audience because it came out after the late 90s/early 00s anime boom when people actually appreciated Toriyama's style. It didn't get a decent following in the west again until DQXI because it was on Nintendo handhelds and most weebs were PlayStation owners.
tl;dr, it was always in the wrong place at the wrong time in the west
>tl;dr, it was always in the wrong place at the wrong time in the west
the remake is going to make it popular
DQ3 remake? I doubt it. HD 2D looks like shit and turns off a lot of people.
>When console RPGs finally got popular here with FF7, the latest DQ game was DQVII
That's just wrong. FF7 came out in 1997, and DQ7 came out in 2000 (almost five months after the atom bomb that was the PS2 dropped in Japan and when all eyes elsewhere were anticipating its international release). Incidentally, this is also why FF7 is one of the few FFs to have notable popularity in Japan; it came out in the middle of a 6-year gap between DQ games (back when that was a substantial gap in a series' releases and not merely the devtime just to turn around a direct sequel made with the same world and assets).
Maybe DQ3 HD2D could've had a chance a year or two ago, but there's noticeable HD2D fatigue in the west these days. How the frick has it needed this long to make anyway?
DQ got a big marketing push in japan in the 80s so it became part of pop culture
there were too many better competitors around in the west so they didn't even try that kind of strategy
nowadays the series can afford to be bland and boring because that's what dragon quest represents! remember good old dragon quest!
How many times have we had this discussion?
I know right. I'm sick of it too.
With me? Never. I just realized how popular it is in Japan, I always thought it was just another random jarpig series.
I just want more Dragon Quest manga
>>Why's this shit so popular in Japan but no one in the west seems to care?
The only wonder is why it’s popular at all in Japan. It’s a fricking shit series.
Just finished the Erdrick Trilogy. I grew up with the first game and never knew it was a serie till I tried DQ Builder 2 some years ago and had that feeling of familiarity. By god did I miss out. I can't wait for the HD-2D Remake of III because I plan to play that shit into the ground. Hoping into IV now and I don't feel it as much as the first 3 games to be honest but I plan on powering through the whole serie. Just a shame they only ported the first 3 on the shitch, I wish I could have a dedicated machine for the whole serie, even though they really went and used the subpar version for that console, I guess the mobile versions got updated because they don't have those vector art graphics in battle anymore.
I have all of the games. at least I care
Played V, VIII, and XI. They all make you want to sleep.
if it ain't broke don't fix it
2 parts are lack of advertising, 1 part it not looking great from the outside, and 3 parts are being a genre the West isn't that into.
it's a by the numbers, plain Jane series that does typical jrpg shit at a decent level. That's exactly what jap masses eat up apparently. I wouldn't call the series as a whole all that good. Decent and perfectly fine, but not must play. 5 is the most interesting overall with it's structure, but I prefer 3 to everything and 9 was a sort of okish attempt depending on how you like the mmo-like and friend aspects
>I wouldn't call the series as a whole all that good. Decent and perfectly fine, but not must play.
all of the games are must play
7 is definitely not a must play and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody but a DQ/JRPG enthusiast
7 was the first one i played and it was great. And I'm not a jrpg enthusiast at all.
>7 is definitely not a must play
the atmosphere and time travel is pure kino
It should have focused more on Jessica
It's kinda boring. I played DQ11 only and I felt it was a very vanilla experience. It's the most standard RPG I've ever played in my life.
If not for the Akira Toriyama faces I would even say it's good.
Vibrant colors, beautiful world, basic but effective combat, the game itself doesn't expect you to stay with it the whole way through and adds a quick summary before you boot it up because it knows you will drop the games for months at a time to play more interesting things.
It's humble.
BUT HOLY FRICK THE MUSIC IS GRATING.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD SUCH A PIECE OF SHIT OST IN MY LIFE. DRAKENGARD 1 IS SUPERIOR TO THIS TRITE.
All in all, solid 5/10 in the true sense, not the "8/10 flop of the century look at how much of an actual marketer I am" kind. Worth a play.
I got to the final boss of that game lost and never finished it.
No one in the west gave a shit about FF until it went Sci Fi. High Fantasy was and still is for fricking nerds.
>High Fantasy was and still is for fricking nerds.
Skyrim, Witcher 3 and anything LotR. Can't get much more normalgay than that.
I played this shit once and it legit made me sleep
Something's wrong with that sword.
>Always thought DQ was just a boring generic JRPG
>Really liked FF
>After so many garbage FF games I gave up on the franchise and decided to try playing DQ
I don't think I ever played so much and so many long games in a short period of time like a did with DQ while having a great time. I think this is the only franchise I ever played that there isn't a single bad game.
It's a heartwarming, old fashioned adventure of cool friends saving the world from a great evil
Westerners hate that
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Bad translations and it’s also not “subversive” enough for the west. Too sincere and straightforward.
Because 8 was the only good one in the series. And like, really fricking good. As good as FF10, 6, and 7.
But then it went to shit again right after 8. So the people that experienced 8 here in the west fricking loved it and anyone else you didn't happen to catch this 1 entry of the series didn't.
It's somewhat similar to Tales of and Tales of Symphonia. That's the only good game in that series, except it's managed to cling on by pandering to weeb losers with hamfisted anime tropes.