>Said FF16 will showcase the power of PS5
>The game barely reached 60 FPS in performance mode and was actually upscaled from 720p
>Said the game is so polished it won't need a day one patch
>Actually pushed a day one patch out and still didn't fix the performance
Why does Yoshi-p lied to us?
Is he lied because of his nature?
or because Sony paid him so much to shills for their consoles?
Is PS5 actually holding back the full potential of FF16?
>also forget that the game actually overheated PS5 and shut them down during boss fights
That is a PS5 design issue. Using the maximum power of a chip, as rated by the manufacturer, should NEVER hit critical temperature if the cooling system is working properly.
Keep making threads. I still bought the deluxe edition and will be playing it later today.
I know how much this makes you seethe.
Have fun.
OP makes valid points but the constant whining is annoying.
Will maybe buy the game on PC when it's 30 yuros max.
Go play it as you like, I never said the game was bad, loved the music. Just tired of all the shills about how powerful PS5 is and "it's the way to play the game" while it could be played beautifully on a highend PC
>Verification not required.
Is this your first time playing a console game in the past 20 years?
I'm fine with 30FPS but it is 2023 now. If you advertised the game will play perfectly with a console then make it so. I don't want to buy a next-gen console (PS or Xbox) with high expectation from the advertisement only to see a performance less than a gaming laptop
>If you advertised
Anon, companies will advertise that games will literally spawn a fembot out of your console that sucks your dick and lets you impregnate her if it means you'll buy the product.
People have been saying console releases play flawlessly for years yet always release broken.
>high expectation from the advertisement
That is 100% your own fault for falling for this shit.
>shut up and CONSOOOM
The most intelligent Yoshi-P stan.
MMO devs = MMO quality
Simple as.
Of course, the obvious implication is that one should not play such games unless they enjoy MMO quality.
Lies to get you to buy a PlayStation
Should have fricking released on Pc.
He didn't lie though. It did showcase how much of horseshit the power of PS5 is.
>He didn't lie though. It did showcase how much of horseshit the power of PS5 is.
Facts hurt the snoys. Its called buyers remorse, the PS5 is a god console because they need to justify the 600 they dropped on it and the 70 games.
>power of ps5
>720p@30fps
I thought Jedi Survivor was an outlier, but boy was I wrong.
Isn't it actually less than that because the 720p is upscaled? But the cutscenes are 1080p so it's okay
Yes it is 480p upscaled to 720p upscaled to 1080p upscaled to 1440p and then checkerborded to 4k with FSR.
There’s also tons of scenes that have CGI mixed in. Power of the PS5 my ass.
wut pretty much all games are 100% cgi. except fmv type of games i guess or some shitty handdrawn artsy partsy games
i'm assuming they mean pre-rendered stuff instead of the cutscenes being done entirely in the engine? Only matters if it looks janky
I wish I could play this game on my 6800XT on release day. Frick sony.
It's all sony marketing, all they do is lie. Remember when ratchet & clank was only possible on the ps5 because of the super special ps5 ssd?
Why gow ragrarok and forbidden west can run on PS5 60 fps and ff16 can not? Maybe it's not Sony's fault after all?
Superior western devs
>asked the game to be developed only for PS5
>even sent PS engineers to help
>has a history working with PS4 and PS5 (FF14)
maybe it's not
watch digital foundry's video about this game. I'm surprised they are impressed by technicalities of this game, even handwaved the uneven fps on performance mode during exploration because it hits 60 during combat consistently. It looks like they loved it.
Did you even watch the video? He think only the 30fps mode is playable. They aren't ok with the res dropping to 720p during battle to get a bad 60fps with drops.
But 30fps is unplayable IMO. People who buy this game on PS5 right now are wasting their 1st playthrough.
>brought PS5 or Xbox X to get 60FPS
>got 30FPS instead
>"30 FPS is fine" - fanboys
PC always won
yeah, did you? He was not bothered by the occasional 720p because it's in motion and the combat is solid 60fps, he even praised ff16's use of motion blur. That bespoke guy is almost gushing all throughout that video.
He recommend the 30fps mode for a reason.
yeah, which became a meme here. If you want consistency use the 30fps mode, select performance if you want 60fps during combat. Fsr seems to be the culprit for the uneven performance mode which I hope will be patched
>by the occasional 720p
According to the video the game drops to 720p in every Battle automatically to keep the 60 somewhat locked. Every single battle is 720p.
Digitalfoundry feels very disappointing lately. The bloat their videos with talking about subjective graphics and design which isn't really bad on its own but I think it takes off the pressure of the main technical issues. The FF video is 38 minutes long and less than 7 minutes is about the performance.
Also it is extremely weird how they praise the game left and right but when it comes to the numbers (less than 1440p in 30fps mode, 60fps with constant issues is 720p) it feels like they handwave it away. Technical tests were always somewhat objective and they slowly turn them subjective. Bad performance and image quality is acceptable if the game is high profile enough? It seems so. Reminds me of high profile games automatically getting 10s on most sites.
>doesn't just watch Digitalfoundry videos completely muted to get a good idea of general framerates and ignore everything else
Dunno, anon.
>The FF video is 38 minutes long and less than 7 minutes is about the performance.
Agreed that the narrative pushing is annoying but that's just to feed the youtube algorithm. If there's a better alternative for viewing performance of recent releases, I'm all ears. But they're still one of the better sources for quick snapshots as you can just skip the video for when they're showing performance metrics on screen.
I'm interested in what the DF guys say because even Sony argued Digitalfoundry and such sites affect the brand. If the DF guy spend 30 minutes praising the game people won't remember the shitty performance. It bothers me if they turn into an "IGN but tech" channel. It is already very bad that high profile games can get away with anything while everything below is either mocked to oblivion or ridiculed for a few dropped frames here and there.
FF16 is an impressive showing for a PS5 game
HD resolution and vaguely 40-50 fps?
Yes
It did, sir snoy, the PS5 isnt actually that powerful and never was. It launched as a mid tier pre built PC, kekel
Anyone not waiting for pc is a moron lol
Thanks for the beta test
It did showcase the power, consoles are shit.
Marketing bullshit. Forbidden West is a cross-generation game and it looks way better than FF XVI. SE simply lacks the talent to make well optimized games.
>showcase the power of PS5
>can't even get a 90 on Metacritic
>troony journos dropping the score because the game is based
>>Said FF16 will showcase the power of PS5
But it does. It drives the system to its limits. Lmao.
Yet Forbidden West looks way better despite being cross gen. Go figure.
>The game barely reached 60 FPS in performance mode and was actually upscaled from 720p
But that IS the power of the PS5 what's the problem?
Frick, i regret buying the game now.
>Hey dude, help me fetch the wood, it's only few steps away
>Hey dude, help me serve this 3 plates of food, and the time spent talking to you is longer than you serving the food
Fricking hell, why the frick did they keep the fetch quests?
Coming from the great minds who concocted such engaging quests as "sniff the chocobo" and "bring a bottle of water to this random guard"
Yoshipiss is a hack
FFXVI DID in fact show us the power of the PS5, and it is shite.
BEHOLD THE POWER OF POZZED FRAMERATE DIPS
He lied so you go out and buy a PS5, simple as
>YoshiP is a hack
Wow, what a revelation. Anyone who isn't still deluding themselves into thinking FFXIV is actually a good game already knew this anon.
MMO developers. Pls understand. The team is inexperienced
If anything their mmo is the most polished popular one out their. Ffxiv have no game breaking bugs and for the rare bugs, they simply patch it right away
Its a PS3 game with small zones. They don’t need to do much for patches besides adjust numbers up and down for shitty overtuned raid bosses
and wow, from the ps2 era, have many bugs even if it looks like shit. Just saying, the ffxiv team knows how to polish games
>trusting Yoshida
>EVER
There's a reason the current XIV fanbase is 95% people who started during late Shadowbringers.
>>The game barely reached 60 FPS in performance mode and was actually upscaled from 720p
so it does showcase the power of the ps5 as advertised, what's the issue?
the combat is solid 60 according to digital foundry
Yeah thats bullshit, I watched some gameplay and there is definitely tome times it slogs under 40 in performance.
anon Gankerer vs digital foundry when it comes to game performance, who will I believe? Hmmm... a very tough choice.
digital foundry literally said it still drops hard in combat, even after dropping down to 720p.
Yea, to the 50s
Moving the goalpost at each turn, eh?
What can I say, the game targets 30 FPS. Keep your expectations in check.
30fps at 720p. Because the PS5 is a piece of shit that is weaker than mid-tier GPUs from 5 years ago (2070).
why lie? Barry really groomed a special class of moronic shitposters
what do you mean by lie? even a 2070 can bust a ps5
here open your pie hole: Resolution mode is 30fps 1440p upscaled to 4k
Wheres the lie? What I said is objectively correct. The PS5 was outdated on release. Couldnt even compete with 2 year old PCs. Using the meme terminologt that these companies like to use, the PS5 APU peaks at 10 teraflops, while a 2070s ALONE does 7.5. And you can only polish a turd up to a certain point with optimization.
And this is without taking in account new tech developments like ray tracing and better upscaling methods.
Optimization is the most important thing, hardware barely matters
Yes, the optimization vodoo black magic is all that matters, anon.
There are PS5 games that run 1080p/60fps. Square is just incompetent
>There are PS5 games that run 1080p/60fps
More like 720p upscaled to 1080p.
>Yet Forbidden West looks way better despite being cross gen
Lmao
Most PS5 games are native 1080p. Even the PS4 is 1080p
kind of tend to agree...
but you can also optimize for PC
Hardware determines limits, Optimization is how close you come to the limits, they are both very important, Square Enix just hasn't tried on the hardware
Talking about tech is great, but really there is none to be shown with FFXVI, the characters and clothes are no more detailed than games like the Order 1886, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Marvel's Spiderman, the hair is still using hair cards when RE4 and Spiderman remastered have moved to spline hairs.
The implementation of GI/ contact shadows is nice but the lighting isn't dynamic it's baked, so it's really not at all impressive.
The ps5 has 16gb of vram.
dips are occasional that depends on what's shown, but it's a consistent 60 during combat as said in the video
Isn't it a bit too late into the console life cycle to show off its power?
No, this is generally the time games start pushing consoles to the limits, grabted they have competent developers and not a team of people who last worked on an MMO expansion that was built for the PS3.
They can't say they were paid by sony to make it exclusive.
They don't need to?
>>Said FF16 will showcase the power of PS5
it did, ps5 is just a shit console lmao
behold the power of the PS5. utterly bespoke
heh
seems they kept koji fox to do the translation
>seems they kept koji fox to do the translation
Want to try again on that sentence structure, ESL-kun?
nah, suck my caulk and bawl
SoP looked better
Jack wins again
It does showcase the consoles power, in that it's a piece of shit.
So the only good thing about this game maybe the story?
Glad I can watch it on youtube.
>So the only good thing about this game maybe the story?
Oh honey...
Just pirate/buy the game when it comes to pc. Don't be cucked by consoles.
>Actually pushed a day one patch out and still didn't fix the performance
Aren't games required to have a day one patch or they can never get patches at all or something?
I remember that being an issue with MGS4 being unable to have install times patched out or get trophy support, they had to completely rerelease the game to add that stuff.
>advertised as a 4k console
>games rarely render at 1080p
>digital foundry tongue bathing the game in their review
>constantly point out things that ps4 games did at least as well
The games visuals are complete dogshit for the target hardware, Spiderman Miles Morales looked better.
actually have to agree here...
japanese devs can't into tech
Capcom does it all the time, Nintendo for their hardware spec do it all the time, too, Square Enix just disappoint consistently, the last legitimately good looking Square Enix game that wowed me for the time/hardware was FFXIII.
idk the old cdpr managed to put tw3 on the switch, even with cucked settings it still looks better than anything on that platform. nintendo needs to step up
God no, Metroid Prime remastered, Luigi's Mansion 3, Xenoblade 3 and Tears of the Kingdom are all better looking with far more visual effects going on as well.
DF is in snoy's pocket so no surprise there. Remember their damage control for Jedi survivor?
>Spiderman Miles Morales looked better.
Nah that game is post processing hell. Looks like skyrim with ENB back in 2014. FF XVI looks a lot better in regards to models, asset density, textures and art direction.
I don't get it, they showed us that clive turned into ifrit and killed phoenix joshua, and then the story try to push us into finding the "other fire dorminant"
What's the point?
The motion blur or screen shake is giving me mild motion sickness and I never get that in any game
>PC gays upscale from 720p to 4K
>they put in imaginary frames to boost up the fps
>they call it DLSS 3
>they call it based
you just know this thread was made by some pc chud that thinks his 3000$ PC is superior to a 500$ console
a 3k pc would imply a 4090, which should be able to play this game @4k 120fps native. oh and also maxed out settings compared to what must be medium low settings on the ps5
even a 4090 cant play new AAA games at 120fps 4K
you can only cope by enabling DLSS
>which should be able to play this game @4k 120fps native
>key world SHOULD
As an idort, I really dislike how disingenuous these console wars have become.
>current gen consoles are massively underpowered so games perform like shit
>PC ports of said games are wildly unoptimized so games perform like shit
It's pretty dogshit regardless of the platform right now. If you're buying games on release (regardless of platform) you're asking to get fricked over.
yeah can't wait to see till amd rams the same tech into your pissstation and all snoys calling it revolutionary.
>consolegays with sony's balls gargling in his mouth start making obviously false claims
The vast majority of PCgays hate AMD/Nvidia/Intel, even if they buy their products. But moronic consolegays are always corporate slaves.
man I’m fricking selling my ps5
the most exciting about it was me searching for stores that had it
I barely play shit on it
I think I’m unironically gonna buy a xbox
>Is he lied
>to shills
What's with ESLs and shitposting?
Why did he say it had a mature story when it was edgy but completely vapid?
Why did he say it would have DMC combat when it's more like a mix of KH and genshin sludge?
because he was trying to shill his shit game
Hopefully he gets put back on 14 and never allowed to ruin anything else
fricking sucks that we get one FF game a decade now and it was this shite
Gonna wait 5 years for the 19 dollar definitive version of the game.
So this.......is the power.......of the PS5.......whoa.........
>Why does Yoshi-p lied to us?
When ISN'T he lying? Lol
Rumor has it, the Soken cancer story was a lie too, Nobuo has been sick more than him, but no one cares about the guy that built the musical foundation for hacks like Soken.
my goodness those are some annoying esl mistakes
I'm pretty sure the series X could run this shit higher than 720p in combat
How many threads do you need to make?
reminder that all of these anti XVI threads are made by a ban evading Forspoken/FFXV shill
inb4 he replies with a cherrypicked review comparison
I was actually going to get this game ASAP but this has really put me off. Tell me they can patch it and make it run better? 30fps for fighting is shit and I don’t want to drop to fricking 720p just to achieve actual frames. They managed it for FF7 Remake Intergrade so what changed?
>so what changed?
beyond shit tier engine. I can hardly belive saying this, but the FF16 engine makes UE4 look good
FF7 Remake is a pretty simple game technologically speaking. Small rooms, overuse of skyboxes and not that many effects all things considered, it's easier to make a game look better when the scale in each frame isn't that high, like how Metroid Prime Remastered can look that good on a Switch since it's made of very small connected rooms and shit
So are we going to have the same problem with Rebirth next year since there appears to be more open spaces?
Not necessarily, the environments in the latest trailer doesn't look that gorgeous to be honest, Elden Ring can do 60fps with an open world and Rebirth isn't looking that much better
The reveal trailer with Cloud and Sephiroth walking through Nibelhein looked a lot better, my guess is they had to downgrade to keep the performance solid
>Said FF16 will showcase the power of PS5
>The game barely reached 60 FPS in performance mode and was actually upscaled from 720p
BUT THAT _IS_ THE POWER OF THE PS5!
What else did you think the power of the PS5 is?
They weren't lying.
The PS5 is so weak that it can't maintain 60fps for a game like this at 720p.
It can for others
I think it looks good, and like the way the textures aren't too sharp with them realizing that softer textures add to realistic graphics.
Yoshit-Piss is the Todd Howard of Japan. Sweet little fricking lies