Will Baldur's Gate 3 live up to Baldur's Gate II?
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Will Baldur's Gate 3 live up to Baldur's Gate II?
Will Baldur's Gate 3 live up to Baldur's Gate II?
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Yeah because Baldur's Gate 2 is significantly overrated
fpwp
what's better within 5 years of its release
Then it's fitting that the most overrated CRPG dev is making BG3
moronic zoomer
Ok boomer
3 charisma post
Since Larian confirmed a few months back that the game will be a direct sequel, not a "spiritual successor", and they've started openly inserting old characters, AND they've confirmed the Illithid aren't the main villain, I've actually gotten somewhat intrigued.
Hasn't like 80 years passed? Why is Minsc still around? Jaheira's a half-elf, so I get her.
He was petrified
But first he was afraid
Isn't he supposed to be like giga epic chad character. How did that even happen.
the enemy used greater malison on him and also tricked him into wearing a hat with an additional -4 to saves, but it still took quite a few attempts
This reads like s shitpost and you never be sure these days.
No, Minsc is an unironic fricking moron
he's also literally worthless in BG2 but has somehow become the mascot of the franchise
No, he's a comic relief character with brain damage
Didn't Minsc disappear and people just thought he died?
is minsc that mentally moronic dude that fricks a hamster or whatever
It's Boo. The hamster's name is Boo.
He knows, he was baiting for (you)'s
Because Larian is a reddit studio and Minsc is the most reddit character in BG
Minsc had several magic cards. He is pretty popular and D&D has all kinds of shit to bring chars back (see drizzt books).
>voiced by matt mercer
hard pass
Explain Volo
He was very conveniently trapped by an imprisonment spell immediately before the 5e timeskip and was only freed recently
god I fricking hate 5e
Volo should just be like Nurse Joy. Have a long lineage of people who look and act exactly like him.
They can't come up with stuff like that anon
>Just skip 4.0 and the spellplague lmao
What the frick even was this void between 3.0 and 5.0? Nothing important happens here?
>the game will be a direct sequel, not a "spiritual successor", and they've started openly inserting old characters,
that is just disrespectful as frick to the original. The story is concluded, there is nothing left to tell.
I guess you just woke up from a coma and missed what's already been happening to Baldur's Gate already for the last 20 years.
what, just because Beamdog were taking a piss on BG1 and 2 I should be okay with Larian taking a big fat shit on those games now?
stop being so dramatic
And the books, and WOTC, and Larian hasn't done jack shit that can be considered bad yet so I don't know what the frick you're talking or even complaining about.
uhhh but larian already released a huge demo and it sucks
also nobody cares about books or mods/EE lol
>uhhh but larian already released a huge demo and it sucks
Incorrect.
>also nobody cares about books or mods/EE lol
Then you don't give a shit about the franchise anyway so why are you complaining?
kek, the EEs suck but they don't ruin the series because it's just a mod of an old game
not sure which demo you played but it licks ass
>but they don't ruin the series because it's just a mod of an old game
Yeah they shoehorned in their donut steels and then made a whole ass expansion. So if you were cool with that, then you should be A-ok with this.
>not sure which demo you played but it licks ass
uh huh
>Then you don't give a shit about the franchise anyway so why are you complaining?
I care about the games. So a sequel to the games using the old characters for nostalgia bait is annoying and disrespectful to me, whereis the same thing happening in books is irrelevant because I don't give a frick about game tie-in schlock fiction that I never even knew existed in the first place.
>I care about the games
Siege of Dragonspear
>using the old characters for nostalgia bait is annoying and disrespectful to me
Not their choice. WOTC already did it long before Larian got the rights to make the game.
>whereis the same thing happening in books is irrelevant
Clearly not, they're the ones that brought back those characters that you're complaining about.
Wotc are a bunch of c**ts, recent actions made them more transparent than ever. Who thought letting Barfdog write a original story for the series after seeing their Tumblr tier OCs they added to the "enhanced" editions
Viconia having a son is already way too much, but it's not like the books had any less cuckshit
> a direct sequel
Oh, so we start from level 30+ with epic gear and hunt down Mask through the planes and reclaim our ascension?
Is it Bhaalspawn? If Bhaalspawn doesn't make a major appearance I'll still despise BG3.
Bhaalspawn is dead and cucked so no
>Bhaalspawn will be Lucian 2.0
Its actually the Dead Three.
I mean you can see their symbols all over the game. Also if you datamine you can find a model of a Slayer.
Your character died like a cuck ten years before the start of the game, sorry anon
nothing you did mattered
>somewhat intrigued.
Sure.
>takes place 120 years after the previous game and is actually a sequel to a 5e tabletop module
>direct sequel
don't argue with lariangays
>the illithid are just pawns of an ass mad Cyric who's still seething over losing his stolen portfolio to (you) after ToB
>he doesn't know Charname's canonical fate
oh nonononono
>canonical
If it's not in the game it's not canon.
>5e game in 5e time period isn't going to follow 5e canon because anon doesn't like it
Why is WotC keeping Abdel Adrian or whatever his name was in the timeline and even mentioning him in new products? Isn't he extremely controversial and unpopular? And having the canon protagonist of the games be a straight white male wouldn't look good to their investors.
>And having the canon protagonist of the games be a straight white male wouldn't look good to their investors
Abdel Adrian died like a cuck because everything that happened in the games was Bhaal's master plan to get resurrected (even giving up his divinity in ToB) and either turned into the Slayer because acktxhually Bhaal lived in a corner of his brain and guided his actions or dies to a literal joke character (Viekang) so it's okay since he's a loser
Lol. And they even said in interviews that BG3 is primarily 'a sequel to Descent into Avernus'. Let's hope that Larian hates these obvious mandates and only writes in a few throwaway lines. But considering early rumors said that the custom origin character is actually the Bhallspawn's descendent, that seems unlikely.
Nope.
>Larian
Nope, and I think BG2 is overrated as frick.
Baldur's Gate 3 is already a return to form with CRPGs. We are likely to never see a proper BioWare game ever again, and honestly, Larian has done an incredible job just with the Early Acces areas alone. To say that it will be an influential title when its released is an understatement. I'm confident it will be the next KotOR II or New Vegas in terms of reverence, but with less jank.
Its Larian, they design games for literal morons, and are worried, first and foremost, with "accessibility".
>next KotOR II
Impossible. Don't play with my emotions you butthole.
shill the game will be full of homosexual and troony characters and will be unplayable.
You know you can kill anyone at any point right? Just thought I should mention it.
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the guy that pulled the flag and camerman got expelled, they harassed the girl laughing so hard she left every social media
so much for the "tolerant" left
Shut up with the off topic bait shit homosexuals.
They have no QC at all at WOTC. That shit should have never gotten green lit and they should have struck down any chance to implement new characters into the original games.
Nobody will care when the final version is released. Early access releases kill all practically all hype for a game so that by the time it is ready for a full release it is already a dead game that has fallen off the radar.
Wrath of the Righteous is better than BG3. Can you be a Lawful Evil Lich Chad in BG3? No? Didn't think so.
BG3 only has it's name recognition. The Origin characters have always been the elephant in the room with Larian's design. It fricks story design and it takes longer to make all those working parts work rather than just making a main character. The fact that you can pick an origin and not even MAKE a custom PC should tell you all you need to know about how "Story focused" and important the Custom PC will be to the story compared to 2
Baldur's Gate 2 is worse than Baldur's Gate 1, and I expect Baldur's Gate 3 will continue the decline.
in what way did you beat bg2?
You prefer low level dnd I take it?
>Baldur's Gate 2 is worse than Baldur's Gate 1,
now this is a hot take
it's a standard Gankereddit take, I'm afraid
what's there to like about BG1? BG1 has bog-standard locations, very little dialogue and boring low level gameplay
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do like the low level dnd fights. I prefer the second game obviously, but I still love 1.
You have less options, so it just boils down to dice rolling
>You have less options
Yeah that's part of what I like about it. I also like the crazy end game shit with level 9 spells and abilities out the ass too though
I don't understand what's enjoyable about having your battles boil down to chance instead of what actions you're taking
Do you think strategy just goes out the window or what? I feel like you're picturing a fighter and a wolf just standing next to each other auto attacking.
I am, because that's most of what BG1 is
Magic items and magic spells are the only tools you have in these games outside of autoattacking, and most of the low level spells suck
>I am, because that's most of what BG1 is
bruh
oh yeah I'm sure you were tactically casting color spray and larloch's minor drain to great tactical effect
BG1 has a bunch of extremely effective crowd control spells. sleep, entangle, confuse, charm etc.
The hold spells, the summons, insect plague, grease, there's so many of them.
Then you would be wrong.
Most spells in Baldur's Gate suck, period
Most of the spells that suck are the low level spells
The fact that there's a handful of low level spells that don't suck doesn't invalidate that
I feel like you just didn't know how to use them or play the game properly. There's way more than "a handful" of useful spells my man
If I can finish the game twice on hard without "knowing how to play the game properly", then the game design has failed
lol no one was arguing that the game was hard. It's designed to be beaten. The game is only a challenge if you use SCS. Now if you can beat SCS with just auto attacks then I'd be very impressed.
If there are actually some useful, tactical spells which I somehow haven't discovered even after playing both games a ton, that would actually make the low level gameplay interesting instead of a bore, then the game design has failed
As it stands most of the spells you get on wizards and clerics in BG1 are useless, so most of the time you're just manipulating the enemy AI and kiting people
If your excuse is "you just levelled the wrong spells, go back and reload your game" then that's a pretty sad excuse
>it is not me that has failed to use the spells properly! It is the game that is at fault!
ok anon, sure thing
If the game has tactical tools available to you, but hides them away and presents you with a more obvious option which is to just autoattack and diceroll your way through the game, and the latter strategy actually works, then it's on the game design. Boring playstyles shouldn't discouraged, not encouraged. Present the tools to the player, and most importantly, make sure the player can't actually win by using strategies that make the game less fun, so the player is forced to learn how to play the game in a way that's enjoyable
>but hides them away
It doesn't. You're supposed to read the spell descriptions and work that out for yourself. It does give you a hand holding session of sorts inside Candlekeep but you're supposed to figure it out for yourself for the most part.
>Boring playstyles shouldn't discouraged, not encouraged
I'm going to assume you meant that boring playstyles should be discouraged. Are they not discouraged by the sheer fact that they are boring? lol wtf am I reading.
>Are they not discouraged by the sheer fact that they are boring?
Sure, but when you experiment with every spell you have, and find pretty much all of them ineffective, you're going to continue to diceroll your way through the game, unless you think you should restart the game until you figure out which of the low level spells don't suck ass
>and find pretty much all of them ineffective
But they aren't. I have no idea how you came to this conclusion, it's so crazy to me that this is where you landed. So didn't see any benefits to disabling large swaths of enemies? Or stunning them? Or causing large amounts of AoE damage? Or becoming immune to damage? Or making them fight each other?
>unless you think you should restart the game until you figure out which of the low level spells don't suck ass
lol what the hell does that mean? Did you not know that you can unlearn spells and change out your spell list?
Honestly this whole conversation is so bizarre lol
>Or causing large amounts of AoE damage?
Doesn't happen with low level spells, they're mostly status effects, which are of limited use, because they have a random chance of working or hit your friends, it's just easier to autoattack them to death
The spells you have available is based on what class of characters you have and what scrolls you've bought / found
>Doesn't happen with low level spells
Oh anon, my sweet summer child. Skull trap will delete just about any enemy in the game and it's an aoe. Fireball is great for destroying large amounts of low hp enemies like Xvarts and Kobolds.
>The spells you have available is based on what class of characters you have and what scrolls you've bought / found
Yeah, which is every class in the game lol You can get a mage, cleric, and a druid right at the start of the game.
You don't get third level spells into later iinto the game, I certainly didn't have them when I was fighting xvarts and kobolds
Thalantyr near High Hedge sells the scroll. You can visit him right after coming out of Candlekeep. You only have to be level 5 to cast it.
>You only have to be level 5
And what's the level cap? 8? I should be level 5 to get my first decent AOE damage spell to kill enemies I fight at the beginning of the game?
You really come off as someone who has a vested interest in defending their favourite game here, you have a bias
It doesn't take long to hit level 5 my man. You will be level capped long before you reach the end of the game.
I wasn't level 5 when I was fighting xvarts and kobolds
It only takes 20k xp for a wizard to hit level 5. A greater basilisk will net you 7k xp when it dies.
Yeah I was killing greater basilisks before fighting some of the first enemies in the game
Do you seriously not see your ridiculous bias
You've probably put hundreds of hours into the game and know everything about it
Single player games, especially RPGs, aren't designed for that
20k is a far cry from the 90k xp cap. You're the one acting like reading from spells and understanding how the work is completely out of the question and that it is somehow the game's fault that you're stupid. You have been shifting the goal posts constantly and all I did was just expose your lack of understanding in what you supposedly experienced.
>reading from spells and understanding how the work is completely out of the question
I'm sure you sat down before your first playthrough and read the description of every spell and the stats of every enemy (even though they weren't included in the manual) and figured out what the best spells were, even though you didn't know where to buy them, and I'm sure you knew the optimal levelling path aswell
I'm sure you also knew about the hidden mechanics which aren't even mentioned in the manual like magic resistance
>I'm sure you sat down before your first playthrough and read the description of every spell and the stats of every enemy
I read the spell descriptions as I acquired them yes. But you're the guy sitting here like some kind of expert making blanket statements like
>there's no good spells in the game and you can only auto attack
I wouldn't be making wild claims like that unless I knew the game inside and out. But that's just me.
I said there's a few good spells, don't exaggerate my argument
You know the game inside and out, so your perspective of the game is extremely biased, you don't seem to realize that
>so your perspective of the game is extremely biased
I disagree. I think your statements were inaccurate and I corrected you and that was the extent of it really. There's plenty of negative aspects to the game that I wouldn't bother arguing against, yours just happened to be one that I would.
You disagree as someone who knows the game inside and out that your experience of it would be different than a regular player? Then you're an idiot
RPGs are games based entirely on knowing things, there's no skill involved
>You disagree as someone who knows the game inside and out
That's one aspect of it yes. The other is that any person who plays the games should at least be able to read.
You're basically mad at the game because you didn't bother reading anything or learning anything about any of the systems in the game.
I read the spell descriptions when I played the game, I never said I didn't
You are not clever because you know everything there is to know about a single player RPG game, they are all knowledge, when you know the game, the game is trivial
>I read the spell descriptions when I played the game
I doubt that. I don't see how anyone could draw the conclusions you did had they read and understood those descriptions unless they have some kind of mental deficiency. In any case, this conversation has become boring and I won't be replying to you further.
>don't see how anyone could draw the conclusions you did had they read and understood those descriptions
Because you have encyclopedic knowledge of the game, and you have a bias. The examples you've actually given are not based on simply reading the spell descriptions, they're based on meta knowledge you have from already playing the game
This doesn't make you intelligent, the only thing you've demonstrated is that you're close-minded
>Because you have encyclopedic knowledge of the game
I learned how to use all those spells when I didn't have access to the internet and I was only 14 years old lol
Just admit that you're a fricking moron and you said moronic shit
I learnt how to use those spells when I was 14 too, I never said I didn't know how they worked, I said most of them weren't very useful
>I learnt how to use those spells when I was 14 too
I don't know how it suddenly became a controversial opinion that low level casters are shit in BG
The controversial opinion is that there's no good spells and no tactical combat options outside of standing right next to an enemy and auto attacking. You're a moron.
I'm a moron? You're a moron for putting words in my mouth, I never said that
>I'm a moron?
Yes you are if you're the same idiot who has been parroting that shit all thread. If you're not, then stop replying to me
I never said what you posted. You can't read. Perhaps you're the moron?
Low level casters aren't shit. Both clerics and mages have overpowered level 1 spells that invalidate most low level encounters. Druids are decidedly worse at low levels, although even they have some decent options.
>Both clerics and mages have overpowered level 1 spells that invalidate most low level encounters.
what are they?
Again with this shit. Let it go you autistic moron.
what?
Sleep, Color Spray, Entangle, Command, Remove Fear, Blindness, Spook, Sanctuary. All absurdly powerful at level 1.
I think you're mistaking "remotely useful" for "absurdly powerful"
>Sleep
>"Remotely" useful
It's a useful spell, it's not "absurdly powerful"
Note the modifier "at level 1".
>find a pack of anything at low levels
>cast sleep
>most of them are now stunned virtually forever
>you now have a 100% chance to hit them (despite your shitty low level thac0)
>color spray is basically a weaker sleep, which is still overpowered (but admittedly useless if you can cast sleep instead)
>entangle invalidates any melee enemies in the game, you can bind them and spam ranged missiles with no worries of getting hit
>command is like sleep, but with no save, allowing you to stunlock any low level monster; single enemy encounters like assassins can do literally nothing about this, they just die
>resist fear makes all your guys immune to one of the most annoying low level status effects
>blindness nerfs an enemy to uselessness and moronates their AI, kind of like command in that it utterly rapes a single target
Admittedly I forgot Spook is only good because it scales, it starts out mediocre.
I wouldn't bother responding to him. He's literally moronic.
Are you mad because I called you out for thinking you're an elite player of a fricking single player RPG
You didn't call out anything other than your own ability to read lol
Pretending that anyone who disagrees with you is actually just dumb is a hallmark of the intellectually insecure
Try mastering a game which actually requires skill or strategy
>Try mastering a game which actually requires skill or strategy
That's funny because you couldn't even master the game that is supposedly lacking in skill and strategy
I've beaten Baldurs Gate several times, I didn't find it difficult
Still couldn't master its systems though eh?
I got to the point where it was easy enough that it wasn't fun to play it anymore, I wouldn't say I have full knowledge of the entire game/s though, there's a lot of stuff in there
>I wouldn't say I have full knowledge of the entire game/s though
We already knew that LOL
ok but did you use SCS? nobody thinks vanilla is hard
He doesn't know what that is. He didn't even use spells when he played and he didn't know that you could swap out your learned spells for the day.
None of those things are true
You're getting really upset aren't you
answer the question anon
>did you use SCS?
I haven't played SCS, no
well everyone knows vanilla is ez, so what's your point? you have to play with the super secret mod to be a big boy bg player, sorry anon
I'm not bragging about my ability to play Baldur's Gate, I made a complaint about the vanilla game, the mod could be great for all I know
play it then dumb dumb
chop chop
I don't think the gameplay systems in BG are good enough that a high difficulty mod would be enjoyable
It's too random, plus I've played it a ton anyway
ok, thanks for sharing
There's no need to get butthurt
you're the one with the problem anon
you should play scs though, it's good
I made one small complaint about Baldur's Gate, I have no ill will towards the game, I LIKE the game
This caused a massive amount of butthurt in someone who has put thousands of hours in the game and think mastery of a game that doesn't change and requires no dexterity makes him intelligent and somehow better than others
And like I said, the battle system is too random for me to find a high difficulty mod enjoyable
>makes him intelligent and somehow better than others
You're projecting all that shit onto me. You made an incorrect statement and I corrected it and that's it.
>You made an incorrect statement and I corrected it
You argued about it, but you didn't really prove anything, you got butthurt and left the conversation
I could be projecting, but there's a guy like you or you in every single Baldurs Gate thread
>You argued about it, but you didn't really prove anything
Lol come on now. We both know that isn't even remotely true, if it were you would have stuck to your initial argument instead of going on the tirade through how long it takes to acquire spells, meta knowledge, and all that other shit.
My initial argument was the game was too random and there's not enough tactical decisions to be made at the lower level, and that's what we were arguing about
This shit started here
and then this
is the first argument.
>Magic items and magic spells are the only tools you have in these games outside of autoattacking, and most of the low level spells suck
>You have zero control over the outcome of combat at low level
Those were the ridiculous arguments being made. And thoroughly disproven.
items and magic spells are the only tools you have in these games outside of autoattacking, and most of the low level spells suck
I posted this, and you haven't disproved it
You have zero control over the outcome of combat at low level
I didn't post this, and I don't agree with it
>most of the low level spells suck
I'm not going to bother rehashing the same argument as multiple other people have already disproven it. You just think you're right even though you yourself even admitted to not knowing the game systems completely.
>multiple other people have already disproven it
They haven't. Someone posted a big list of the level one spells he claimed were overpowered. Most of these spells are only good against trash mobs. Trash mobs are not the encounters that give you difficulty, harder enemies, with higher levels and more resistances are
>Trash mobs are not the encounters that give you difficulty, harder enemies, with higher levels and more resistances are
For example.
Don't ask me I haven't played the game in like ten years
A wizard maybe
>A wizard maybe
Blindness. Level 1 spell that renders any mage useless on a failed save. Used to use this spell to farm xp from Firebead Elvenhair.
Sleep works on level 4 and below. Hold Person is instant death for a Mage. And Skull Trap annihilates anything it touches.
I won't disagree with you there
>Most of these spells are only good
See right here, it's a concession. And it's a condition that you are placing on said abilities in an attempt to make them seem less useful. Just because they have a specific role in CC of lower level mobs doesn't mean that the spell sucks. That's something that you refuse to acknowledge that completely debunks your argument.
A spell isn't useful if it solves a problem that doesn't exist
You don't need spells to disable low level enemies when you can just slap them to death
>when you can just slap them to death
Sleep is a level 1 spell that works at level 1. It turns a possibly deadly encounter or waste resources at level 1 into free xp with no damage taken. There's many spells that achieve similar results.
>waste resources at level 1
the only resource is health potions and you're never short of them
It still saves you from death. Like the early ogres and half ogres, standing toe to toe with them will get you killed early on. But sleep still works on them.
I'm starting to get the feeling that your mental model is based off playing the difficulty mod and not the vanilla game
Or perhaps you take a different route through the game, but I feel like the route you take is fairly railroaded
Low level enemies rarely pose a threat
Ogres are right outside the starting area and the first town you encounter, Beregost.
don't forget the eight bandit ambush when traveling between zones that you can easily get on your very first trip to the Friendly Arm Inn
I think that's caused by EE and the half-assed mods it's copy-pasted from. Random encounters are all too high level.
>zero control
tbh people play the game ironman on max difficulty with scs and win most of the time
how do they do it???
yeah dude and I agree, although it's fine after level 3, and you can stack AC on one dude and let him tank everything, then nothing too random will happen
bg1 is a pretty easy game, play mods if you want it to be interesting
And remember to do your super secret auto attacking strat
Low level enemies are not threats which require spell use to defeat, most of these spells are only effective on low level enemies
>then the game design has failed
No it hasn't. The game was designed for D&D and cRPG enthusiasts back in 1998, not for the modern zoomer audience that is too stupid to read or experiment with stuff. The game also came with a handbook, like all of those games used to, which had in-depth descriptions of all of the spells and systems in the game.
Oh yes of course, children didn't exist in 1998
90% of people who played Baldurs Gate have never heard of D&D
why did you play the game on hard if according to you there are no tactics and it's purely RNG? That's not much of a flex, you're just acting like an actual moron now. Like, if I hate the RNG aspect of a game, why would I intentionally make it even more RNG?
>why did you play the game on hard
because I wanted a challenge? I don't follow
I mean, I believe hard mode gives a better challenge as you have to use more tactics and less auto attacks, but you insist that this game has no tactics and it's all just RNG. So it makes little sense to me why you'd choose to make the game even more RNG, when you aren't using any tactics to overcome said challenge. Seems kind of stupid to me is all.
>you insist that this game has no tactics and it's all just RNG.
don't put words in my mouth, it's still way more tactical than say a JRPG
lol I just assume people are talking about SCS when they discuss difficulty
obviously it's a cakewalk on vanilla for any difficulty
I was using sleep and command, actually.
No, that's just what the first 30 minutes or so of the game are. Once you have more than 2 party members and a bow or magic, it's already a world of difference.
That’s literally what’s happening though. You have zero control over the outcome of combat at low level
horseshit
>You have zero control over the outcome of combat at low level
What the hell, have any of you people even played these games?
You realise that BG1 goes up to 5th level spells right? I feel like you're baiting me
>You realise that BG1 goes up to 5th level spells right?
yeah, at the en
magic sucks for most of the game
it's autoattacking or using wands the rest of the time
Lol you're already backtracking your argument. There's so many spells that at and before that level. Not to mention you can become level capped way before the end of the game. And it's not like there isn't an import system so you can play with 5th level spells from the very start if you wanted to.
I said most of the game is autoattacking because low level spells suck, I haven't gone back on that
you know nothing about the game. Starting with a fighter/mage/thief with sleep spell memorized is one of the easy mode metas for soloing the game.
most of BG1 is fine, admittedly charname vs wolfie at lvl 1 is like that lol
It's peak comfy low lvl D&D adventure. Low stakes, solving local matters, lots of map exploration etc. I love BG1 for what it is, but clearly BG2 is better in almost every single way. Unless someone really hates mid to high lvl D&D and mage spells, then I can see why they wouldn't like BG2 very much.
I love BG1. Cosy atmosphere, fun story, I love the autumnal vibe of forests...
that for me is pure DnD/LoTR Fellowship vibes. Love it so much
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Any hope for more interesting races getting added to the game by the time the full release comes around? I've heard Dragonborn have already been datamined.
You might get dragon born, I doubt they will put in Warforged or anything super out there.
war-forged have flags and dialogue choices and there's flags for races that havent been shown yet like tabaxi and tortle.
If you're talking on the role playing sides absolutely the infinity engine games are fricking terrible on that aspect, I actually really like the RTWP combat but that's without a doubt the most hated aspect of the original series so it's probably going to get universal praise even though Larian is absolutely putting some out place bullshit in it
frick those beamdog trannies.
It's not a Baldur's Gate game. It is just marketing based on the name. It's a shitty Divinity clone.
God no, its just DoS3.
Anyone who has finished this game isn't alive anymore so we will never know.
Using Dragonspear as a measuring stick? It won't even come close.
Reminder that if you prefer RTwP to Turn-Based you're a garbage eater since tabletop games are always and canonically TB and Van Buren fricking deserved to never be released and couldn't possibly become a better Fallout than Fallout 3 no matter what period.
>RTwP
It's the best and everyone eho disagrees is wrong
Baldurs Gate devs themselves said they added real time just to jump on RTS hype then added pause because it turned out to be a clusterfrick. It's that much of a bullshit system
Not to interrupt the arguing of 1 x 2 but can someone sum up the changes Beamdog did to the games and how can a white man play the games today without coming into contact with the HIV virus?
All DnD shit is Inherently woke and gay,so you are better off just dropping cRPGs entirely.
Not an unfair acessment
EA of BG3 is already better so the chances are good.
I fricking despised OS2's combat system and writing but BG2 is my favourite game of all time so I'll have to at least check this one out.
BG3 combat is better and Larian has thankfully started to move away from the DOS2 mold the game had earlier.
There's still some bullshit like weapon dipping and surface effects (set fire to acid or strike water with lightning) but they're not too intrusive.
Exploding barrels should frick off though.
Baldur's Gate 3 is pozzed, so no.
People will attack Owlcat for making "Wrath of the Righteous" pozzed, but let me tell you something. Larian is more pozzed. An example
>Can you sacrifice your gay lover and b***h at him as a Lich then sacrifice him for a ritual?
No, Larian would never do that.
>Can you romance the same gay cleric as a Demon and basically make him your b***h and subservient while bashing his ass?
No, Larian would never do that. Those are just two examples of why Larian is more fricking pozzed than Owlcat.
lol Larian let's you cut the gay's head off at first meeting wtf are you talking about
And Wrath of the Righteous let's you kill kids and see Demons skullfrick people, as well as fricking over your entire friend group. What's YOUR point?
Yeah they do the exact same shit in BG3 except you don't get railroaded into waiting for the game to allow you to do it
Interesting, I'll take this into consideration
Larian isn't based but neither is Owlcat. Ultimately both are fricking making games off of pozzed-as-frick TTRPGs fun by Paizo and Wizards of the Coast. That's why both games are fricking pozzed
I think they're in 2 different leagues of pozz, but I can agree with the sentiment
Where is this coming from. I never said anything about the Enhanced Edition. It sucks ass too. Just play the old games and cherish those memories because we're not going to have good (not pozzed) games for quite a while, if ever again in our lifetimes.
>we're not going to have good (not pozzed) games for quite a while, if ever again in our lifetimes.
stop being overdramatic, you sound like a woman
Are you going to personally go and kick all of the trannies, gays, women out of the industry yourself? And also ensure that afterwards they don't just get new jobs somewhere else in the industry? No? Then shut up because I'm right.
you're a whiny little baby, an embarassment of a man
And you're a troony. have a nice day homosexual.
No I'm not a troony
You're nearly as pathetic as a troony though
>I'm not a troony I swear, I just love defending them and their influence over video games
No more (You)'s for you, troony.
Where did I defend a troony you brainlet
This anon basically has it right. Just accept games you find fun but also recognize that truly stellar games of the past are over.
Owlcat I think is just beholden to Paizo and has to tow the company line, Rogue Trader feels thus far like the opposite of Pathfinder
No nothing ever will
Not to the people that made playing Baldur's Gate in 1998 their personality, they will never be satisfied. For the rest of us it's just another D&D game and looks cool.
>Not to the people that made playing Baldur's Gate in 1998 their personality, they will never be satisfied
That is me and I like BG3 so far from what I've played of it.
>game will probably be fine apart from a bit of shoehorned gayness
many such cases
Just go full murder hobo
Honestly I'll be curious if Larian uses this system to start making games of DnD Modules the same way Owlcat has done Pathfinder ones. I think there's great potential in this system and shit Larian is doing for making crpg games wholly new with it, or doing DnD modules with it.
That'd be cool. Assuming that BG3 turns out good
Why would baldurs gate 3 have to live up to a bad game?
NO
>nu larian studios
Frick no
Oh no it's the fuzz! quick moron anon
go and auto attack him!
No. It's not even BG. D:OS 3 more like it. Either way 4th edition murdered the setting and gameplay. 5th fricked its corpse. So not BG OR DnD.
>It’s not even BG. D:OS 3 more like it.
People say this in every BG3 thread and I don’t know why. How is it DOS3? Because it’s made in the same engine? Because it’s made by a company you don’t like? All the similarities are skin deep.
same company
same engine
same assets
same combat
different world, but it's also quite a different world from bg2
>same assets
>same combat
lol
It's definitely not a BG sequel, but to say it's DOS3 is just disingenuous. BG3 is just a really weird new style. If anything it's more like a turn based Dragon Age due to its focus on cinematics or whatever.
damn, you made it sound even worse
Never said it was good lol. Only thing that interests me about BG3 is being able to zoom in really close and move your guy around in third person. You couldn't really do that in DOS2.
>all those action icons that could easily be condensed into a single btton press
Why are western devs still stuck in the 1980s when it comes to gameplay?
You can use hotkeys, at least for your major actions. Also that pic is from an earlier patch, though the current UI still has problems.
if I liked the original fallouts will i like baldurs gate 1/2?
Completely different games with different combat styles.
>early access with unnecessary changes constantly that don't actually let us see like 3/4 of the game
>only up to level 5
>missing classes, and some existing classes are missing their abilities
>missing alternate racials that would actually give some variety
>unnecessarily hard DC's for shit people are just going to savescum
>barely not D:OS 3 anymore but actually still is
>dunk weapon in fire to double your damage lol
>horrendous controls and camera
>rest after every fight despite "being in a hurry", and despite not needing it, or you miss out on all the character quests
>le epic dice roll
Easily a no.
How much gay Black person shit and feminist power fantasy nonsense is in bg3?
Not much. And you can kill any NPC that annoys you.
>And you can kill any NPC that annoys you
I am not at all arguing against whether there is a lot of wokeness or not, I just don't care about that conversation. But for the love of god, stop spouting this bullshit every time like it's some all fix solution for everything wrong with the game.
Sorry I meant more like there is so little wokeness and its so minor that you can just kill whatever is there. I agree that its not a good solution.
Not even remotely
I remember when Minsc showed up at that trailer during the game awards and it was a "hey kids, remember that cool character from the previous game? you can now clap :D" moment, but no one clapped because it turns out almost no one played BG2 nor it's a nostalgia-driven big franchise to begin with.
I mean the franchise ended after Throne of Bhaal
no one asked for WotC to dig up its corpse and rape it with 5e's panic retcons and Murder in Baldur's Gate
I only ever played vidya games based on and I never followed the real deal DnD, so I still don't understand how a literal moron like Minsc has become the face of the series (after the series was done and gone, on top of that).