>90% of the fanbase love it
Yes, and it just so happens that most of those kids played reach first and think halo is a boomer shooter.
Go back to plebbit and dilate yourself with a drill, you pus-dripping zoomer homosexual.
i myself prefer the halo campaigns but you didn't play halo multiplayer back when you were youthful and not bitter and old? i feel like the only people who would talk about halo multiplayer espiecally 1-3 are the people who grew up with it.
I did, I didn't think any special of it, it was fun but I spent most of my time on the campaigns. >i feel like the only people who would talk about halo multiplayer espiecally 1-3 are the people who grew up with it
You're pretty much right.
>i myself prefer the halo campaigns but you didn't play halo multiplayer back when you were youthful and not bitter and old? i feel like the only people who would talk about halo multiplayer espiecally 1-3 are the people who grew up with it.
Okay anon, I wasn't being a dick btw I was just actually curious why someone young like you is even attracted to this site. I figure at this point the site isn't cool anymore with the younger crowd.
nope, only the first two games were good anyway. typical video game series that turns to complete ass after 1 or 2 games but continues to get pumped out year after year and carried by its brand recognition.
Halo 4 and 5 campaign-wise were so bad they almost killed the series entirely, Halo Infinite's campaign at least saved the campaign of Halo. What were they even thinking with Halo 4 and 5?
Halo 4 and 5 were cheap nostalgia ploys, they shoved old crap in their games with the crappy new art styles screaming "HEY EVERYONE! LOOK! IT'S HALO, YOU SEE, WE CAN ADD STUFF FROM BUNGIES GAMES LIKE UHH? HALO RINGS AND UMM, ARBUTUR, AND SOME SIDE AND BOOK CHARACTURS DURRR" Meanwhile, Infinite just tries to be Halo and sticks with what works for once instead just being an expectations subverted Halo.
>Halo 4 and 5 were cheap nostalgia ploys
Black person, 4 and 5 were unanimously disliked by the hardcore crowd for trying different approaches and not being enough like the OG trilogy. Infinity was the course overcorrection back into CE pandering without retaining any of the soul that the original had. 343 would've been better off continuing their own facsimile of Halo than doing a poor man's attempt at anything Bungie did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No one likes Halo 4 and 5, troon so continuing it for trannies like you would have nuked every part of the series, not just the multiplayer. Plus their shitty marketing for Ancient Evils and the greatest hunt with dino boy wrapped moronic homosexuals like you in while the rest of us were shitting on them to go back to Bungie's gameplay, level design, art, music, sound, storytelling, weapons, and factions over their melodramatic character driven garbage. Loreshit that sounds good on paper is never good in execution, remember that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Try as you might to gaslight the situation, the fact remains that Infinites story was no where near the antidote 343 needed to keep the story from becoming completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. All setup, no payoff and little in the way of intriguing plot beats (let's just recycle the same cortana and chief being depressed and introspective from 4 again, fans will eat that slop up). As much baggage as there was with 4 and 5's narrative, I would've respected them a lot more if they continued with the AI rampancy arc, as it would've at least had the potential to be good under a competent writer (which apparently is asking too much from 343) instead of the recycled hogwash we ended up with.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Of course, you would have respected them, you reddit troony. If you actually like the trilogy, you wouldn't have any respect for a company that had no understanding of what the series was with their first fricking game. You know who likes Halo 4 and 5, transgenders, no straight man likes that crap or tolorates it. 343 were made to make Halo, I expected Halo 4 to be a proper sequel to Bungie's game, not Call of Duty with the Halo name on it. It's time for you to get hell off of Ganker, reddit scum. >I would've respected them a lot more if they continued with the AI rampancy arc
And I would have punched you in the face if you even told me this. I've finally gained respect for them for finally copying Bungie, copying Halo, real Halo in terms of that campaign. homosexual, can't believe you even said some dumb shit like that >respected them
have a nice day, no truly, have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
*tolerates
2 years ago
Anonymous
>troony troons out from oxygen deprivation with his gaping axe wound leaking out and projects his delusions onto other anons on a vidya board
Every. Fricking. Time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe you shouldn't have revealed yourself for being a redditor and actually wanting more of that gay Halo 4 and 5 shit. Keep seething that Halo 4 and 5 aren't ever getting brought up again, homosexual and there will never be a Halo cycle for Halo 4 and 5 because they will always be known as the worst campaigns in the series that almost killed the series. Eat shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Black person I couldn't give an ounce of a shit if Halo somehow miraculously resurrects itself even on the slim chance it did fix it's story, especially with how israelited modern day corporations are, there's no way in hell it'd ever happen. I just think low IQ corporate swill suckers like you don't deserve a decent revival. Anything after ODST (you could argue Reach somewhat) is non-canon fan fiction and should be seen as such. 343 has done irreparable damage to the brand and the only thing it deserves is for it be buried and lie dormant and hope to whatever deity exists that a future generation that isn't fricked up by social media enough to write a line in C++ comes along to honor the legacy. Were it so easy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Anything after ODST
Bungie's last Halo game was Halo 3 in 2007, the team left and went on to make Destiny. This comment right is how I know you're from reddit trying to fit in. No one that played Halo back then gave a shit about what came out after Halo 3 because Halo 3 was the end of the main series. Peoples interest was in Halo 4 and 343 blew it. You fricked up again stating that you wanted 343 to continue their shitty AI garbage plot that didn't fit Halo while continuing to ruin Cortana more than they already did while Chief flew around doing absolutely nothing again but simping like a b***h for Cortana, again. You redditgays are low IQ while you constantly think anyone gives a rat's ass for a bunch of side projects.
2 years ago
Anonymous
youre not wrong but then again who even really cared about the story to begin with? it was just "shoot the aliens". it was serviceable enough but we only cared because we were edgelord tweens.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pretty much
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mentioned in one line about respecting 343 if they had the balls to not kowtow to mounting pressure and actually committed to what they had set up instead of doing over their story for the third time and you sperg out like a turbo autist. I still would've thought modern halo was a giant pile of shit but the problem is no one actually cares about taking risks, and holding onto Halo as it was, is in itself what the israelites at MS want. The problem arises when you take this problem to it's logical conclusion and end up with complete industry wide creative stagnation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I mentioned in one line about respecting 343
That one line is enough for anyone to tell that you're not really a Halo fan. I would actually respect 343 if Halo 4 looked, felt, played, sound, and had a story of a Halo game while being a proper sequel to Halo 3, not the fanfiction garbage that was released. If you truly were a Halo fan, you would have wanted 343 to drop Halo 5 and just make a fricking Halo game for once in their worthless pathetic insignificant lives.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Real Halo fans know the series died with Bungie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Real fans didn't give a shit about what was shitted out after Halo 3 unless it was a sequel until they got that sequel, real fans are happy with Infinite's campaign and realized the multiplayer was shit and left afterwards. Real fans don't like anything about Halo 4 or 5 because neither are real Halo games. The only ones you see praising those campaigns are gays from reddit, twitter, and Youtube shills.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Real gaylo fans know halo died after halo wars.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No one played your failed RTS game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well yeah, that's why i said it.
Lean to read, Black person.
If you mean achieve the levels of popularity it had during Halo 2 and 3, no. It was lightning in a bottle, and on top of that Halo 4, the Xbone, and MCC's poor launch, arguably Reach to an extent as well already did too much damage to the brand. Halo 5 (and Infinite) could have unanimously been the best games in the series and they still wouldn't be as dominant in the industry as Halo 3 was.
If you mean up to the quality that the Bungie games had, I think it's possible. Halo 5 had the best forge in the series and also returned to Halo CE/2 style map design after 3 fricked it up, and had some of the best gunplay and weapon balance in the series. A number of those things are true for Infinite as well, sans map design. But 5's campaign was still medicore and Infinite is still lacking basic content that should have been in since launch.
Also, the fanbase is too fractured and stuck up their own ass with what they consider the series to be. Unless 343i litterally just makes Halo 3 2.0, people are going to say it's "Unhalo", even if the changes are in line with the changes 2 and 3 themselves made vs CE.
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nope, only the first two games were good anyway. typical video game series that turns to complete ass after 1 or 2 games but continues to get pumped out year after year and carried by its brand recognition.
No. It's over. Halo CE is still one of the greatest games of all time and 343 can never take the memories you have of Halo 3 custom games. Don't cry because it's over, be happy it happened in the first place.
I thought the same until I replayed it last year. The game is just fun to play. Shooting the enemies is a good time, the music is amazing, the whole atmosphere is perfect.
Console shooters were never good. Especially this one. There was a reason CoD killed it on Xbox.
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>growing up with Halo
amerimutts are actually reminiscing about Gaylo lol. I remember when Ganker would shitpost Gaylo threads to death.
I tried your "game" on Steam. >slow movement >terrible weapon balance (only one wep worth using per game) >aimbot
Also lol this has an actual e-sport scene? Is it for the disabled or something? >WOW Mom that guy just awkwardly moved his reticle over the other guy and never missed a single shot >Yes sweetie he must have trained not using his fingers and letting the aimbot do it's thing very hard
looooooool no shit this thing averages like 5k wievs peak
lol Halo players are trannies? That explains a lot. But why did you tell me this?
Better than your favourite game.
Better than Cs? I doubt it. Cs:gay might be a skinnerbox game, yet it stimm moggs this pathetic franchise >daily peak Cs:gay 800-900k players >daily peak Halo Shitfinite / MCC 3-5k players
lol
did anyone actually prefer halo3 multiplayer to halo2? asking people with >1000 hours. i played halo2 online virtually every day for months upon its release and quite often all the way til halo3 came out, but i thought halo3 was worse in pretty much every way. but at the same time i have to wonder if i had just burned myself out on it playing halo2 so much in the first place.
I played Halo 2 slightly after release all the way to post release Halo 3, then I played Halo 3 until I discovered pc gaming and Reach didn't have the same staying power.
Nowadays I'd rather play Halo 3 or Infinite, Halo 2 would be the best if it wasn't broken.
>including ODST and Reach
Why does reddit do this? We never liked either of these games back then, if you really want to fit in just say you played the trilogy and shut up. Most of the devs that even made the trilogy didn't even make those two games.
ODST and Reach are more character driven. That alone is why they drool over them. I say this as someone who likes ODST the most, and always has. Mostly for the music/lighting, and especially the lack of the BR.
Casuals in general, really. They don't have good taste and just assume anything cinematic and character driven is good. They don't see the gameplay at all. They see cool advertisements and they see video games as a form of entertainment where you sit back and are mostly fed. They don't care about the interactive gameplay part. These people don't even finish these games. They play the first 3 or 4 levels, and then move onto whatever other new thing they're told to buy via saturation/spam advertising. In all honesty, most people really aren't any better than talking animals. Worst of all is that even on Ganker you can't escape people who don't care about gameplay. They hide behind porn "games", VN's, and similar, that lean on everything but actual gameplay to sell.
That makes sense, you can see it in this thread with all the Infinite campaign hate, and some even praising 4 and 5's campaigns. Explains a lot when these guys can only talk about 90% of the story and cutscenes in Halo instead of even talking about or showing gameplay from any of the campaigns. Even worse when they like it when men act like simps instead of how we're supposed to act, like men.
2 years ago
Anonymous
4 and 5 are terrible, but that doesn't make Infinite an impressive campaign. Ubisoft open world with a lot of nothing, bland enemy encounters, unfun arenas to fight in, and and even the linear levels are copy-pasted, uninspired corridors that only CE beats out in terms of repetition. 343's best offering yet? Yes. But it's far from amazing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The campaign is better than everything the series had to offer after 2008.
Saying Halo 2, ODST, Reach, Halo 4, or Halo 5 are the best is a sign of trying hard to fit into the fanbase and you're probably from reddit if you do this.
They made an open hub world and most of the game look like the second level of CE, sprint is still in (even though it's not even needed and still screws a little with pacing and increases wear and tear on controllers) and then they say it's just like classic Halo. 343 is either intentionally sabotaging things, or they are legitimately mentally moronic. You know, you'd think Microsoft would hire people who actually understand what Halo is. What's great is how 343 talks big about how important Halo is to them, yet if you dare say Halo was one of the few things you truly enjoyed in life and are disappointed in the 343 games, suddenly that's too far and you need to stop caring (Because it puts them in their place and exposes them as the frauds they are). 343 is pretty much nothing but posers and casuals who only say as much as they think they need to virtue signal their concern for the series. Actually caring for and understanding Halo is not allowed. I'm sick to death of people showing up to destroy the things I care about because they want attention, because 343 and Halo is not the first or only instance of this happening.
>sprint is still in (even though it's not even needed and still screws a little with pacing and increases wear and tear on controllers)
Yeah seriously I hate how much that shit will wear down a controller. I wish games would implement it differently already. Clicking to aim like in old Halo was always find though but the sprinting in these FPS really does wear them out since you got to constantly do it.
>sprint is still in (even though it's not even needed and still screws a little with pacing and increases wear and tear on controllers)
Yeah seriously I hate how much that shit will wear down a controller. I wish games would implement it differently already. Clicking to aim like in old Halo was always find though but the sprinting in these FPS really does wear them out since you got to constantly do it.
Sprint is a fricking meme issue that doesn't matter much, especially in Infinite where as you even concede it basically may as well not be in.
Halo 2 and 3 introduced new core player abilities too, like bionculars and duel wielding and vehicle hijacking. And for as much as people b***h about how sprint "stretches the maps out", Halo 5 was the first game since 2 to properly have dense, vertically driven maps with a platforming emphasis, something Halo 3 moved away from and stretched maps out with even without sprint.
I said it was a meme issue, not that it was a good or a worthwhile addition.
I will, however, say that thrust, slide, and hover in 5 was an outright good addition, because it enabled more vertical mobility and skilljumps and I'd wager was a large part of why Halo 5 has maps in line with CE and especially H2.
Sprint is bad for gameplay and for controller wear. If it's so bad this time around, remove it. 343 still can't make Halo its own thing because they're still trying to copy everyone else in the industry. Terrible artstyle "because people will notice how much it stands out!!XD", narrative-heavy campaign, "advanced" movement mechanics, and now open world that sacrifices good level design for "I can just walk around obstacles now!". With Infinite, they took two and a half steps forward with artstyle and music, and trimming the movement down, and five steps back with open world, predatory microtransactions, lack of things to do in multiplayer, no Firefight/PvE options, and no Forge mode. What exactly was upper management injecting into themselves to think that gets a pass? Why doesn't Microsoft clean house? It's like they want Halo to be a ruined IP.
Sprint is a net neutral for gameplay. It's a pointless addition but the reasons people b***h about it doesn't hold up to deep scrutiny. Halo 2 also has a narrative heavy campaign, the problem is 4 and 5's writing is just shit (I haven't played Infinite's yet). And as I said, while sprint (and clamber/ground pound) are pointless and charge is outright fricking busted, I'd argue thrust, sider, and hover synergizes with the emphasis Halo used to have with skilljumps and platforming.
The reasons people complain about sprit are completely justified,. There's a massive thread on waypoint that dunks on 343. The arguments in favor of sprint in Halo are the childish ones based in appeals to popularity and mindlessly bowing to authority. You, along with 343, fail to understand that being popular does not make something good. Being well-known does not make something good or positive. And stop asking for Titanfall 3 out of Halo.
Anon I assure you i've looked at an watched every fricking waypoint, plebbit thread, and youtube essay about this, I find them all unconvincing and it is not difficult to come up with counterpoints.
>The arguments in favor of sprint in Halo are the childish ones based in appeals to popularity and mindlessly bowing to authority.
I agree, good thing i'm not making any.
As I said before, I am not saying sprint is good, i'm just saying it's not bad either. Both the pro and anti sprint arguements are fricking dumb.
>I said it was a meme issue
It's a legitimate issue, but there are bigger ones these days. Like clamber.
I don't think clamber's inclusion in 5 was problematic, but in Infinite it is because so much of the vertical mobility on maps is locked behind forced clambering, wheras in CE, and 2 (obviously) and 5 you could hop up on platforms and get to higher eleveations without as much reliance on clamber. (but at least infinite at least DOES have points to verticaly ascend all over the map even if they require clamber, unlike in 3, reach, and 4 where the map design is a huge downgrade and you need to go to specific stairways or lifts)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't think clamber's inclusion in 5 was problematic
I do. It's an ability that limits your movement by making you facehug a wall. Not to mention how much it utterly destroys verticality on maps, forcing designers to make height differences ridiculously high in order to stop someone from just being able to hold the jump button against a ledge. It also let you gain way too much horizontal distance midair when combined with hover, ground pound, and slide.
Sprint is bad for gameplay and for controller wear. If it's so bad this time around, remove it. 343 still can't make Halo its own thing because they're still trying to copy everyone else in the industry. Terrible artstyle "because people will notice how much it stands out!!XD", narrative-heavy campaign, "advanced" movement mechanics, and now open world that sacrifices good level design for "I can just walk around obstacles now!". With Infinite, they took two and a half steps forward with artstyle and music, and trimming the movement down, and five steps back with open world, predatory microtransactions, lack of things to do in multiplayer, no Firefight/PvE options, and no Forge mode. What exactly was upper management injecting into themselves to think that gets a pass? Why doesn't Microsoft clean house? It's like they want Halo to be a ruined IP.
Know what bothers me about sprint? Games used to have toggle sprint. Halo could have easily had this but instead insisted on doing sprint like all other shooters. Lame
>like all other shooters
That's all 343 has been doing from the beginning. DOOM 2016 and Eternal aren't hated because they're just trying to be DOOM and nothing else. It's the real reason Sprint was still in 4 after everyone with a brain hated it in Reach. Sprint = Open, larger maps = DMR = people complaining about the DMR not being powerful at all ranges = DMR buff wile leaving the rest of the non-power weapon sandbox in the dust = Broken game top to bottom. On top of that it leads to pacing and predictability in movement issues, both of which are critical in Halo. Halo turned into a methodical and rewarding, game, Bungie screwed up hard, and 343 just went with it while putting their own vomit all over it.
Most people do not understand game design, they pretend they do, but in reality they're parroting the opinions of some internet personality that also most likely doesn't understand what they're talking about. The few people who do know what they're talking about, don't get many views or attention because being critical and objective about anything is seen as so offensive as to be a taboo these days. Everyone's focused on surface level feelings and downright toxic positivity that defies the reality of any given situation.
If you actually read their statement instead of just people seething about it just looking at headlines, all they are wanting to do is add a paid "shortcut" option to auto-unlock all the new armor they added postlaunch for people who don't wanna spend the time to earn it in game, which is the current method.
I guess it's possible 343i could make it take longer to earn in game then what it takes currently to push people to spend real money, but even for 343i and MS that'd be pretty fricking stupid and blatently greedy.
"Halo" was just a few games made by a particular studio over 15 years ago. It came and it went. Stop clinging to some desperate fantasy that your childhood will somehow come back. This delusion is what keeps big corporations running hack studios to milk old IPs. You just can't let go.
It will be around for a decade or so because MS marketing budget and nostalgic boomers, but it will never get to the point it was before or even be considered popular ever again, but MS will parade Halo's poor decaying dead body every couple years trying to milk the nostalgia for some random hardware release.
Halo won't revive until everyone involved in 343 gets fricking annihilated off the face of the industry and Microsoft stops fricking with Halo's corpse.
Halo may not revive until Forge, Custom Games Browser, and Battle Royale are a thing, maybe. If not that it won't happen until 2025. Let's face it, even after that stuff is added, the game needs more modes, maps, weapons, and vehicles which it doesn't have right now. Campaign is the only thing good about Infinite and the next campaign will be the only thing that will bring people back but that's not due out until 2025 so that's a ways to go. Infinite's free to play multiplayer is dead and will most likely remain dead and needs remarketing to get anyone back.
Virtually everyone who worked on Halo at Bungie is long gone. Jason Jones still keeps an office there, but he's long since retired from the day-to-day game development.
Joe Staten's inclusion in Infinite helped get the game out the door, but there's only so much one man can do to right a sinking ship
Joe doesn't give a flying frick about the multiplayer and is currently working on the next campaign. Why do you think 343 just hired back Halo CE-3's level designer? That don't hire Halo 1-3 Bungie devs rule at 343 got thrown out after the 2020 showing.
Holy shit, I had no idea they had hired Paul Bertone. That's insane. With Joe as creative lead, Max Hoberman's company working on some sort of relaunch/massive content add and Paul Bertone back in some capacity, we might get the whole crew back together
too bad Marty will NEVER be allowed to work on Halo ever again lmao
Dammit, Marty, why did you have to come after Microsoft for Halo's music, goddammit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
in fairness Microsoft has continued to profit from him and Salvatori's work for years, and the original Halo theme was composed before Microsoft owns Bungie, so it was absolutely not for-hire work and Microsoft probably saw there was a chance a court could decide they did not own the Halo theme, so they chose to settle
Songwriters deserve royalties and proper credit for their work.
Halo was always on its way out, arena multiplayer was obsolete already in 2004, then CoD ate 3’s lunch. Not a surprise the series has been dead for years now since people don’t care about FPS singleplayer.
The gunplay and “gameplay loop” (stupid zoomer buzzword I know) in Infinite were the best theyve been since H3. Literally everything else beyond that in the game was shit or was missing.
>The gunplay and “gameplay loop” (stupid zoomer buzzword I know) in halo 3 were the best they've been since halo ce Literally everything in halo infinite was shit or was missing.
FIFY
might as well ask here.
hey halo fans. so anyway, i thought i saw you guys claiming how >mc is the strongest he can take on anyone in the universe
but so far from every cutscene i've seen from the games where there's a fight scene, he pretty much always loses.
why tf do you guys shill him so much?
He's like Samus, he can only do so much when the player is not in control, when we control him, he is unstoppable. Also, like Samus, if he loses, a deus ex machina occurs and gives him a victory because his and Samus's thing is they overcome impossible odds.
It already has
lol no anon Infinite has dropped off a cliff. It recovering would mean it is getting many players back who left.
I don't give a shit about multiplayer.
And even less people care about the campaign. Cry moar.
halo is over without bungie
and bungie has changed to much since the last real halo game so its pretty much forever dead
Bungie's final Halo game was Halo 3.
No and it should have been buried long ago.
This. It was a good send off.
And it was fricking bad.
If it was bad, 90% of the fanbase wouldn't consider it Bungie's best work, eat shit, 2gay.
>90% of the fanbase love it
Yes, and it just so happens that most of those kids played reach first and think halo is a boomer shooter.
Go back to plebbit and dilate yourself with a drill, you pus-dripping zoomer homosexual.
Just sounds like cope that everyone picked their favorite Halo game and that game is Halo 3.
Everyone in the world just love a dead game that no one plays.
Keep crying, b***h
Both Reach and ODST are better than that rushed trash heap that is Halo 3.
If that were true why doesn't anyone play them currently? Why did both of them sell like shit?
Why do you keep making the same damn thread, you're annoying?
Not until Bonnie, Kiki and Frankie are gone from 343
we already finished the fight
I was 4.
Why are you posting on Ganker?
because you guys are funny and I like to talk about videogames
We hate your guts, there's nothing funny about it. It explains why you homosexuals can't shut the hell up about Halo's multiplayer.
i myself prefer the halo campaigns but you didn't play halo multiplayer back when you were youthful and not bitter and old? i feel like the only people who would talk about halo multiplayer espiecally 1-3 are the people who grew up with it.
I did, I didn't think any special of it, it was fun but I spent most of my time on the campaigns.
>i feel like the only people who would talk about halo multiplayer espiecally 1-3 are the people who grew up with it
You're pretty much right.
>i myself prefer the halo campaigns but you didn't play halo multiplayer back when you were youthful and not bitter and old? i feel like the only people who would talk about halo multiplayer espiecally 1-3 are the people who grew up with it.
Okay anon, I wasn't being a dick btw I was just actually curious why someone young like you is even attracted to this site. I figure at this point the site isn't cool anymore with the younger crowd.
nope, only the first two games were good anyway. typical video game series that turns to complete ass after 1 or 2 games but continues to get pumped out year after year and carried by its brand recognition.
Halo is never coming back, 343 has done everything in their power to alienate all but the most insufferable gays. Yet morons will still defend them.
thats my entire point... im saying grumpy old guys like you would be the ones who can't shut up about halos multiplayer...
It's dead Jim
Odd I figure most of gen z would use discord instead.
Halo 4 and 5 campaign-wise were so bad they almost killed the series entirely, Halo Infinite's campaign at least saved the campaign of Halo. What were they even thinking with Halo 4 and 5?
the campaign was awful, it's a shitty Far Cry knock off.
The campaign was the best and most fun and most Halo since Halo 3.
Sounds like you're the one crying.
>actually believes shitfinites campaign is anything more than a cheap nostalgia ploy
homie, you played yourself there.
Halo 4 and 5 were cheap nostalgia ploys, they shoved old crap in their games with the crappy new art styles screaming "HEY EVERYONE! LOOK! IT'S HALO, YOU SEE, WE CAN ADD STUFF FROM BUNGIES GAMES LIKE UHH? HALO RINGS AND UMM, ARBUTUR, AND SOME SIDE AND BOOK CHARACTURS DURRR" Meanwhile, Infinite just tries to be Halo and sticks with what works for once instead just being an expectations subverted Halo.
>Halo 4 and 5 were cheap nostalgia ploys
Black person, 4 and 5 were unanimously disliked by the hardcore crowd for trying different approaches and not being enough like the OG trilogy. Infinity was the course overcorrection back into CE pandering without retaining any of the soul that the original had. 343 would've been better off continuing their own facsimile of Halo than doing a poor man's attempt at anything Bungie did.
No one likes Halo 4 and 5, troon so continuing it for trannies like you would have nuked every part of the series, not just the multiplayer. Plus their shitty marketing for Ancient Evils and the greatest hunt with dino boy wrapped moronic homosexuals like you in while the rest of us were shitting on them to go back to Bungie's gameplay, level design, art, music, sound, storytelling, weapons, and factions over their melodramatic character driven garbage. Loreshit that sounds good on paper is never good in execution, remember that.
Try as you might to gaslight the situation, the fact remains that Infinites story was no where near the antidote 343 needed to keep the story from becoming completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. All setup, no payoff and little in the way of intriguing plot beats (let's just recycle the same cortana and chief being depressed and introspective from 4 again, fans will eat that slop up). As much baggage as there was with 4 and 5's narrative, I would've respected them a lot more if they continued with the AI rampancy arc, as it would've at least had the potential to be good under a competent writer (which apparently is asking too much from 343) instead of the recycled hogwash we ended up with.
Of course, you would have respected them, you reddit troony. If you actually like the trilogy, you wouldn't have any respect for a company that had no understanding of what the series was with their first fricking game. You know who likes Halo 4 and 5, transgenders, no straight man likes that crap or tolorates it. 343 were made to make Halo, I expected Halo 4 to be a proper sequel to Bungie's game, not Call of Duty with the Halo name on it. It's time for you to get hell off of Ganker, reddit scum.
>I would've respected them a lot more if they continued with the AI rampancy arc
And I would have punched you in the face if you even told me this. I've finally gained respect for them for finally copying Bungie, copying Halo, real Halo in terms of that campaign. homosexual, can't believe you even said some dumb shit like that
>respected them
have a nice day, no truly, have a nice day
*tolerates
>troony troons out from oxygen deprivation with his gaping axe wound leaking out and projects his delusions onto other anons on a vidya board
Every. Fricking. Time.
Maybe you shouldn't have revealed yourself for being a redditor and actually wanting more of that gay Halo 4 and 5 shit. Keep seething that Halo 4 and 5 aren't ever getting brought up again, homosexual and there will never be a Halo cycle for Halo 4 and 5 because they will always be known as the worst campaigns in the series that almost killed the series. Eat shit
Black person I couldn't give an ounce of a shit if Halo somehow miraculously resurrects itself even on the slim chance it did fix it's story, especially with how israelited modern day corporations are, there's no way in hell it'd ever happen. I just think low IQ corporate swill suckers like you don't deserve a decent revival. Anything after ODST (you could argue Reach somewhat) is non-canon fan fiction and should be seen as such. 343 has done irreparable damage to the brand and the only thing it deserves is for it be buried and lie dormant and hope to whatever deity exists that a future generation that isn't fricked up by social media enough to write a line in C++ comes along to honor the legacy. Were it so easy.
>Anything after ODST
Bungie's last Halo game was Halo 3 in 2007, the team left and went on to make Destiny. This comment right is how I know you're from reddit trying to fit in. No one that played Halo back then gave a shit about what came out after Halo 3 because Halo 3 was the end of the main series. Peoples interest was in Halo 4 and 343 blew it. You fricked up again stating that you wanted 343 to continue their shitty AI garbage plot that didn't fit Halo while continuing to ruin Cortana more than they already did while Chief flew around doing absolutely nothing again but simping like a b***h for Cortana, again. You redditgays are low IQ while you constantly think anyone gives a rat's ass for a bunch of side projects.
youre not wrong but then again who even really cared about the story to begin with? it was just "shoot the aliens". it was serviceable enough but we only cared because we were edgelord tweens.
Pretty much
I mentioned in one line about respecting 343 if they had the balls to not kowtow to mounting pressure and actually committed to what they had set up instead of doing over their story for the third time and you sperg out like a turbo autist. I still would've thought modern halo was a giant pile of shit but the problem is no one actually cares about taking risks, and holding onto Halo as it was, is in itself what the israelites at MS want. The problem arises when you take this problem to it's logical conclusion and end up with complete industry wide creative stagnation.
>I mentioned in one line about respecting 343
That one line is enough for anyone to tell that you're not really a Halo fan. I would actually respect 343 if Halo 4 looked, felt, played, sound, and had a story of a Halo game while being a proper sequel to Halo 3, not the fanfiction garbage that was released. If you truly were a Halo fan, you would have wanted 343 to drop Halo 5 and just make a fricking Halo game for once in their worthless pathetic insignificant lives.
Real Halo fans know the series died with Bungie.
Real fans didn't give a shit about what was shitted out after Halo 3 unless it was a sequel until they got that sequel, real fans are happy with Infinite's campaign and realized the multiplayer was shit and left afterwards. Real fans don't like anything about Halo 4 or 5 because neither are real Halo games. The only ones you see praising those campaigns are gays from reddit, twitter, and Youtube shills.
Real gaylo fans know halo died after halo wars.
No one played your failed RTS game.
Well yeah, that's why i said it.
Lean to read, Black person.
Kill 343i.
go into hiatus and reboot the franchise in 10 years. have 343 do remakes of something else, they're pretty decent
Recover in what regard?
If you mean achieve the levels of popularity it had during Halo 2 and 3, no. It was lightning in a bottle, and on top of that Halo 4, the Xbone, and MCC's poor launch, arguably Reach to an extent as well already did too much damage to the brand. Halo 5 (and Infinite) could have unanimously been the best games in the series and they still wouldn't be as dominant in the industry as Halo 3 was.
If you mean up to the quality that the Bungie games had, I think it's possible. Halo 5 had the best forge in the series and also returned to Halo CE/2 style map design after 3 fricked it up, and had some of the best gunplay and weapon balance in the series. A number of those things are true for Infinite as well, sans map design. But 5's campaign was still medicore and Infinite is still lacking basic content that should have been in since launch.
Also, the fanbase is too fractured and stuck up their own ass with what they consider the series to be. Unless 343i litterally just makes Halo 3 2.0, people are going to say it's "Unhalo", even if the changes are in line with the changes 2 and 3 themselves made vs CE.
zoomers
3, ODST, and Reach are better then CE
No
No. It's over. Halo CE is still one of the greatest games of all time and 343 can never take the memories you have of Halo 3 custom games. Don't cry because it's over, be happy it happened in the first place.
>Halo CE is still one of the greatest games of all time
You mean the game with recolored enemies and reused levels?
Better than your favourite game.
I thought the same until I replayed it last year. The game is just fun to play. Shooting the enemies is a good time, the music is amazing, the whole atmosphere is perfect.
Console shooters were never good. Especially this one. There was a reason CoD killed it on Xbox.
>growing up with Halo
amerimutts are actually reminiscing about Gaylo lol. I remember when Ganker would shitpost Gaylo threads to death.
I tried your "game" on Steam.
>slow movement
>terrible weapon balance (only one wep worth using per game)
>aimbot
Also lol this has an actual e-sport scene? Is it for the disabled or something?
>WOW Mom that guy just awkwardly moved his reticle over the other guy and never missed a single shot
>Yes sweetie he must have trained not using his fingers and letting the aimbot do it's thing very hard
looooooool no shit this thing averages like 5k wievs peak
Forgot to mention that I'm trans. Not sure if that matters though..
lol Halo players are trannies? That explains a lot. But why did you tell me this?
Better than Cs? I doubt it. Cs:gay might be a skinnerbox game, yet it stimm moggs this pathetic franchise
>daily peak Cs:gay 800-900k players
>daily peak Halo Shitfinite / MCC 3-5k players
lol
>daily peak Cs:gay 800-900k players
Its sad that Halo is so bad it can never reach this again. If Halo was great again it should be deserving of numbers like this.
Were any of the old Halo games this bad?
Yes, but they had sovl.
did anyone actually prefer halo3 multiplayer to halo2? asking people with >1000 hours. i played halo2 online virtually every day for months upon its release and quite often all the way til halo3 came out, but i thought halo3 was worse in pretty much every way. but at the same time i have to wonder if i had just burned myself out on it playing halo2 so much in the first place.
I don't get people preferring Halo 3's MP over 2 either, aside from BTB and forge stuff.
Halo 3 is basically just 2 but with more polish and less exploits people misinterpreted as game mechanics.
Halo has never had hitscan weapons.
Shoulda never dropped hitscan.
I played Halo 2 slightly after release all the way to post release Halo 3, then I played Halo 3 until I discovered pc gaming and Reach didn't have the same staying power.
Nowadays I'd rather play Halo 3 or Infinite, Halo 2 would be the best if it wasn't broken.
Been playing the trilogy (including ODST and Reach) again.
1,2 and ODST truly had soul
>including ODST and Reach
Why does reddit do this? We never liked either of these games back then, if you really want to fit in just say you played the trilogy and shut up. Most of the devs that even made the trilogy didn't even make those two games.
ODST and Reach are more character driven. That alone is why they drool over them. I say this as someone who likes ODST the most, and always has. Mostly for the music/lighting, and especially the lack of the BR.
Explains why Halo 4 and 5 ended up being shit too, go figures, I guess this is when the gays came into Halo.
Casuals in general, really. They don't have good taste and just assume anything cinematic and character driven is good. They don't see the gameplay at all. They see cool advertisements and they see video games as a form of entertainment where you sit back and are mostly fed. They don't care about the interactive gameplay part. These people don't even finish these games. They play the first 3 or 4 levels, and then move onto whatever other new thing they're told to buy via saturation/spam advertising. In all honesty, most people really aren't any better than talking animals. Worst of all is that even on Ganker you can't escape people who don't care about gameplay. They hide behind porn "games", VN's, and similar, that lean on everything but actual gameplay to sell.
That makes sense, you can see it in this thread with all the Infinite campaign hate, and some even praising 4 and 5's campaigns. Explains a lot when these guys can only talk about 90% of the story and cutscenes in Halo instead of even talking about or showing gameplay from any of the campaigns. Even worse when they like it when men act like simps instead of how we're supposed to act, like men.
4 and 5 are terrible, but that doesn't make Infinite an impressive campaign. Ubisoft open world with a lot of nothing, bland enemy encounters, unfun arenas to fight in, and and even the linear levels are copy-pasted, uninspired corridors that only CE beats out in terms of repetition. 343's best offering yet? Yes. But it's far from amazing.
The campaign is better than everything the series had to offer after 2008.
>We never liked either of these games back then
>we
speak for yourself homosexual, Reach and ODST were good games
Saying Halo 2, ODST, Reach, Halo 4, or Halo 5 are the best is a sign of trying hard to fit into the fanbase and you're probably from reddit if you do this.
It won't recover for the same reason Ganker will never be good. Terrible management that suffers from megalomania and many other mental diseases.
They made an open hub world and most of the game look like the second level of CE, sprint is still in (even though it's not even needed and still screws a little with pacing and increases wear and tear on controllers) and then they say it's just like classic Halo. 343 is either intentionally sabotaging things, or they are legitimately mentally moronic. You know, you'd think Microsoft would hire people who actually understand what Halo is. What's great is how 343 talks big about how important Halo is to them, yet if you dare say Halo was one of the few things you truly enjoyed in life and are disappointed in the 343 games, suddenly that's too far and you need to stop caring (Because it puts them in their place and exposes them as the frauds they are). 343 is pretty much nothing but posers and casuals who only say as much as they think they need to virtue signal their concern for the series. Actually caring for and understanding Halo is not allowed. I'm sick to death of people showing up to destroy the things I care about because they want attention, because 343 and Halo is not the first or only instance of this happening.
>sprint is still in (even though it's not even needed and still screws a little with pacing and increases wear and tear on controllers)
Yeah seriously I hate how much that shit will wear down a controller. I wish games would implement it differently already. Clicking to aim like in old Halo was always find though but the sprinting in these FPS really does wear them out since you got to constantly do it.
Sprint is a fricking meme issue that doesn't matter much, especially in Infinite where as you even concede it basically may as well not be in.
Halo 2 and 3 introduced new core player abilities too, like bionculars and duel wielding and vehicle hijacking. And for as much as people b***h about how sprint "stretches the maps out", Halo 5 was the first game since 2 to properly have dense, vertically driven maps with a platforming emphasis, something Halo 3 moved away from and stretched maps out with even without sprint.
>Sprint is a fricking meme issue that doesn't matter much
If it doesn't matter, why does it need to be in the game?
It doesn't.
I said it was a meme issue, not that it was a good or a worthwhile addition.
I will, however, say that thrust, slide, and hover in 5 was an outright good addition, because it enabled more vertical mobility and skilljumps and I'd wager was a large part of why Halo 5 has maps in line with CE and especially H2.
Sprint is a net neutral for gameplay. It's a pointless addition but the reasons people b***h about it doesn't hold up to deep scrutiny. Halo 2 also has a narrative heavy campaign, the problem is 4 and 5's writing is just shit (I haven't played Infinite's yet). And as I said, while sprint (and clamber/ground pound) are pointless and charge is outright fricking busted, I'd argue thrust, sider, and hover synergizes with the emphasis Halo used to have with skilljumps and platforming.
The reasons people complain about sprit are completely justified,. There's a massive thread on waypoint that dunks on 343. The arguments in favor of sprint in Halo are the childish ones based in appeals to popularity and mindlessly bowing to authority. You, along with 343, fail to understand that being popular does not make something good. Being well-known does not make something good or positive. And stop asking for Titanfall 3 out of Halo.
Anon I assure you i've looked at an watched every fricking waypoint, plebbit thread, and youtube essay about this, I find them all unconvincing and it is not difficult to come up with counterpoints.
>The arguments in favor of sprint in Halo are the childish ones based in appeals to popularity and mindlessly bowing to authority.
I agree, good thing i'm not making any.
As I said before, I am not saying sprint is good, i'm just saying it's not bad either. Both the pro and anti sprint arguements are fricking dumb.
I don't think clamber's inclusion in 5 was problematic, but in Infinite it is because so much of the vertical mobility on maps is locked behind forced clambering, wheras in CE, and 2 (obviously) and 5 you could hop up on platforms and get to higher eleveations without as much reliance on clamber. (but at least infinite at least DOES have points to verticaly ascend all over the map even if they require clamber, unlike in 3, reach, and 4 where the map design is a huge downgrade and you need to go to specific stairways or lifts)
>I don't think clamber's inclusion in 5 was problematic
I do. It's an ability that limits your movement by making you facehug a wall. Not to mention how much it utterly destroys verticality on maps, forcing designers to make height differences ridiculously high in order to stop someone from just being able to hold the jump button against a ledge. It also let you gain way too much horizontal distance midair when combined with hover, ground pound, and slide.
>I said it was a meme issue
It's a legitimate issue, but there are bigger ones these days. Like clamber.
Sprint is bad for gameplay and for controller wear. If it's so bad this time around, remove it. 343 still can't make Halo its own thing because they're still trying to copy everyone else in the industry. Terrible artstyle "because people will notice how much it stands out!!XD", narrative-heavy campaign, "advanced" movement mechanics, and now open world that sacrifices good level design for "I can just walk around obstacles now!". With Infinite, they took two and a half steps forward with artstyle and music, and trimming the movement down, and five steps back with open world, predatory microtransactions, lack of things to do in multiplayer, no Firefight/PvE options, and no Forge mode. What exactly was upper management injecting into themselves to think that gets a pass? Why doesn't Microsoft clean house? It's like they want Halo to be a ruined IP.
>It's like they want Halo to be a ruined IP.
They got Call of Duty now. They don't need Halo as their flagship IP no more.
Know what bothers me about sprint? Games used to have toggle sprint. Halo could have easily had this but instead insisted on doing sprint like all other shooters. Lame
>like all other shooters
That's all 343 has been doing from the beginning. DOOM 2016 and Eternal aren't hated because they're just trying to be DOOM and nothing else. It's the real reason Sprint was still in 4 after everyone with a brain hated it in Reach. Sprint = Open, larger maps = DMR = people complaining about the DMR not being powerful at all ranges = DMR buff wile leaving the rest of the non-power weapon sandbox in the dust = Broken game top to bottom. On top of that it leads to pacing and predictability in movement issues, both of which are critical in Halo. Halo turned into a methodical and rewarding, game, Bungie screwed up hard, and 343 just went with it while putting their own vomit all over it.
Most people do not understand game design, they pretend they do, but in reality they're parroting the opinions of some internet personality that also most likely doesn't understand what they're talking about. The few people who do know what they're talking about, don't get many views or attention because being critical and objective about anything is seen as so offensive as to be a taboo these days. Everyone's focused on surface level feelings and downright toxic positivity that defies the reality of any given situation.
>Nu-doom it's 90's doom at its peak
That's when I know you're a fricking zoomer troon.
Making a constructive argument is hard.
You don't deserve it, neither does your dead franchise aimed to lizard fetishist and closet power rangers fans.
Just spam porn if you want attention. You do it everywhere else.
I don't want to take your job.
Halo lost its niche a decade ago. The majority of the people who played it back then aren't coming back because other, more casual shooters came out.
>MCC on sale
>Halo 1-reach on PC sounds fun
>343 cannot control their israelite genes and adds microtransactions to MCC
frick
If you actually read their statement instead of just people seething about it just looking at headlines, all they are wanting to do is add a paid "shortcut" option to auto-unlock all the new armor they added postlaunch for people who don't wanna spend the time to earn it in game, which is the current method.
I guess it's possible 343i could make it take longer to earn in game then what it takes currently to push people to spend real money, but even for 343i and MS that'd be pretty fricking stupid and blatently greedy.
>I guess it's possible 343i could make it take longer to earn in game then what it takes currently to push people to spend real money
>it's possible
"Halo" was just a few games made by a particular studio over 15 years ago. It came and it went. Stop clinging to some desperate fantasy that your childhood will somehow come back. This delusion is what keeps big corporations running hack studios to milk old IPs. You just can't let go.
Halo is close to dead
Why do you think microsoft paid out of the ass to buy call of duty?
Halo was never good.
You have a lot in common with it.
it's dead, jim
It will be around for a decade or so because MS marketing budget and nostalgic boomers, but it will never get to the point it was before or even be considered popular ever again, but MS will parade Halo's poor decaying dead body every couple years trying to milk the nostalgia for some random hardware release.
reboot marathon
>reboot marathon
they did. its called halo.
Why are so many redditgays allowed to post here?
Halo won't revive until everyone involved in 343 gets fricking annihilated off the face of the industry and Microsoft stops fricking with Halo's corpse.
Halo may not revive until Forge, Custom Games Browser, and Battle Royale are a thing, maybe. If not that it won't happen until 2025. Let's face it, even after that stuff is added, the game needs more modes, maps, weapons, and vehicles which it doesn't have right now. Campaign is the only thing good about Infinite and the next campaign will be the only thing that will bring people back but that's not due out until 2025 so that's a ways to go. Infinite's free to play multiplayer is dead and will most likely remain dead and needs remarketing to get anyone back.
This, so much this.
Bring
Bungie
Back.
Bungie is dead, eat shit, you double spacing homosexual.
Virtually everyone who worked on Halo at Bungie is long gone. Jason Jones still keeps an office there, but he's long since retired from the day-to-day game development.
Joe Staten's inclusion in Infinite helped get the game out the door, but there's only so much one man can do to right a sinking ship
Joe doesn't give a flying frick about the multiplayer and is currently working on the next campaign. Why do you think 343 just hired back Halo CE-3's level designer? That don't hire Halo 1-3 Bungie devs rule at 343 got thrown out after the 2020 showing.
Holy shit, I had no idea they had hired Paul Bertone. That's insane. With Joe as creative lead, Max Hoberman's company working on some sort of relaunch/massive content add and Paul Bertone back in some capacity, we might get the whole crew back together
too bad Marty will NEVER be allowed to work on Halo ever again lmao
Dammit, Marty, why did you have to come after Microsoft for Halo's music, goddammit.
in fairness Microsoft has continued to profit from him and Salvatori's work for years, and the original Halo theme was composed before Microsoft owns Bungie, so it was absolutely not for-hire work and Microsoft probably saw there was a chance a court could decide they did not own the Halo theme, so they chose to settle
Songwriters deserve royalties and proper credit for their work.
>Bring
>Bungie
>Back.
From what? They made the decision to make a casual looter shooter series for Sony
Still better than shitlo infinite.
Halo was always on its way out, arena multiplayer was obsolete already in 2004, then CoD ate 3’s lunch. Not a surprise the series has been dead for years now since people don’t care about FPS singleplayer.
Doom 2016 and Eternal say otherwise as far as FPS singleplayer is concerned.
The gunplay and “gameplay loop” (stupid zoomer buzzword I know) in Infinite were the best theyve been since H3. Literally everything else beyond that in the game was shit or was missing.
Careful anon or the Far Cry reddit zoomer will attack you.
>The gunplay and “gameplay loop” (stupid zoomer buzzword I know) in halo 3 were the best they've been since halo ce Literally everything in halo infinite was shit or was missing.
FIFY
might as well ask here.
hey halo fans. so anyway, i thought i saw you guys claiming how
>mc is the strongest he can take on anyone in the universe
but so far from every cutscene i've seen from the games where there's a fight scene, he pretty much always loses.
why tf do you guys shill him so much?
He's like Samus, he can only do so much when the player is not in control, when we control him, he is unstoppable. Also, like Samus, if he loses, a deus ex machina occurs and gives him a victory because his and Samus's thing is they overcome impossible odds.
>when we control him, he is unstoppable
lol
fricking Jackals
Its soul dissipated after Combat Evolved, so no.