Will i enjoy this if i never played a ja before?
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Will i enjoy this if i never played a ja before?
Will i enjoy this if i never played a ja before?
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Yes. It was made specifically for people who never played previous JAs
I concur. It's an excellent game. I've played a lot of these types of games and this is the best one I've ever played.
It's a bit too modern unfortunately. Gameplay loop gets really boring after like 10h. Solid 7 from me. It's a good ja game.
They shouldn't have skipped shops.
Its pretty high up there when it comes to turn based tactical shooters, but the nostalgia of the humor and setting might not work for you
>nostalgia of the humor
JA3 humor is cringe and feels infantile compared to JA2.
what's the appeal of Jagged Alliance?
all i've heard is that it's very good but that's it
You do CRPG things like explore the world, talk to npcs and do side quests, level your characters, perform skill checks, etc… but you do so by managing multiple squads of mercenaries spread out across the country doing different tasks like it’s a management sim. Then the combat is basically XCOM.
Couple that with a surprising amount of realism like weapons using specific ammo types, damage being fairly realistic (i.e. hit someone with 7.62 and they’ll drop like a rock), and you get a really unique game.
JA2 has been held up as a masterpiece of CRPG design for years and 3 is pretty much that with a few modern conveniences. They really did a great job with it.
sounds good, how does JA1 compare to 2 and 3?
Rudimentary. Everything stripped to its basics. No real side questing/crpg elements, just combat. No real reason to play it when JA2 exists. It's not like the story is worth experiencing.
Here's a not moronic answer like
JA1 is quite basic compared to JA2. The map is basically a set of levels and you only have so much time in the day to get through them. The mercs and their personalities are the main draw. It's worth playing for curiosity sake, but only if you want more.
JA2 and JA2 1.13 are almost completely different games. Think of 1.13 as the ultra autistic and bloated simulator version of JA2. Some of us like that, but it should not be your first experience at all.
As for which one first, JA2 or JA3? Depends on how used to modern UIs and shit you are. If you have experience making old games work when they don't want to then JA2 is a fine place to start.
Also why it's a shithole like all French colonies.
>As for which one first, JA2 or JA3?
I was asking which I should play first between 1.13 and JA3 after playing vanilla JA2. I thought that was pretty clear.
Do you have autism? That will answer the question.
Are we talking "I like old games" autism or "I play Factorio for 200 hours a month" autism?
I wouldn't call 1.13 autism-core. It's just a more in-depth version of a game that was already deep in its mechanics. Also it's way harder. The first counter-attack filtered many.
The "I spend hours of my day arguing about AK variants on /k/ and do milsims on weekends" kind. I do love 1.13, but it's not a love for everyone.
Other than what anon above said the game (both ja2 and ja3) has a whole bunch of characters
That's one of the things that makes these games so replayable
What's the best tactics game? Ja3, XCOM 2 or Phoenix Point?
Of those three JA3 and frankly I don’t think it’s very close either.
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xcom2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ja3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>You moved that soldier one square too far to the left? Kek. Enjoy your squad wipe because you just activated two more pods
No.
>you accidentally got spotted by 1 guy then killed him well enjoy slowly moving in turnbased mode the rest of the way around the map
>you want to buy ammo go frick yourself in this stupidass crafting system
there are plenty of dumb design decisions in ja3
moron never called up Bobby Ray's lmfao
You exit combat mode after 3 turns of not being spotted btw
To be fair to that anon bobby rays wasn't in the game at release, it came in a patch a few months later. At release all ammo had to be found/crafted.
ahahaha
no
JA3 by a huge margin.
Are sniper rifles still completely overpowered in JA3?
Yes, but with the introduction of bobby rays and therefore effectively unlimited ammo machine guns are even more OP now. At release you couldn't use them much because they chew through all your ammo way to fast, but now that you can just order more they're ridiculous. I've had rounds where a single machinegunner took out 12 men.
Should I play JA -> JA2 -> 1.13 -> JA3 or JA -> JA2 -> JA3 -> 1.13?
JA1 is not worth attention
JA2 and 1.13 are interchangeable
That's not what I heard at all.
As that anon said JA1 isn't worth playing. Truly obsolete. And 1.13 is simply JA2 with a shitload of more options. I would actually recommend sticking with vanilla for a first playthrough. It's a complex enough game that adding 75 different AK variants won't improve the experience. The base game is a 10/10 without the mod. The mod is for people that have been playing the base game for a long time. 1.13s real strength is customization, where every aspect of the game can be tweaked in an .ini file, none of which will mean anything/be useful to someone that's never played the game in the first place. It really is pretty much just for veterans.
>JA1 is not worth attention
Holy fricking pleb.
JA3 > JA2 then 1.13 if you are autistic or JA1 only if you are interested in vidya history
Its good?
DiDiBombdeeznuts or whatever the shitposting was about wasn't the canary in a mineshaft warning of a bad game?
It's a fictional African country. Of course there's Black folk. And that character is in a region filled with landmines, giving purpose to a Black person skilled with explosives to be there. If you were offended by the humor you've forgotten how to have fun.
It's in the Caribbean, not Africa
NTA but its definitely Africa. Specifically I think it’s loosely based on Sierra Leone, especially with the diamonds.
Yeap, it's implied it was previously occupied by the French. Hence all the French names like Lafontaine
I wouldn’t say implied so much as directly stated. One of the first things you see is an old French colonial fort.
It's West African coast, anon. It was territory fought for by the French and the Germans. There's several cultural references to countries in that area of the world. Sierra Leone, Liberia, Angola, etc.
The soundtrack even features a couple traditional songs from different regions, like this one for example. It's a Zulu wedding song. It plays if Chimurenga retires and goes off to propose to Maman Liliane.
Tell that to the Saints Row 3 people.
are any of these spinoffs/expansions worth playing?
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Yes. Deadly Games is fantastic.
Unfinished Business and Wildfire are pretty good too. You can safely ignore everything else up until Jagged Alliance 3. Definitely play JA3.
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I'm as quiet as a... Well, you know.
>talks about nothing but cheese and holes
haha it's funny do you get it it's because she's a hole
I find it incredible that DG/JA1 went the extra mile and added slight height and body type differences to characters in the inventory screen. Just for flavor.
is it even close to JA2 or Silent Storm?
Or more like horrible modern XCom games?
Please tell me what you see in it that makes you think it's like modern XCOM. That might be more productive
close as in quality and gameplay, with assumption that modern xcom were simplistic mediocre games
You really don't know what you're talking about do you
You're just parroting shit
Look at gameplay footage and tell me what you think is similar to modern XCOM
I use Xcom 2 as a scale
JA2 and SS - very good
modern Xcom - mediocre
where does JA3 fall in this scale? closer to good or to mediocre?
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ja3 is not a glorified puzzle game so I'd say it falls closer to the good category
It has action points.
It’s pretty much identical to JA2 with some quality of life improvements. It still uses action points and still doesn’t tell you the percentage chance to hit.
I don't think Silent Storm is as good as people make it out to be. I consider JA3 better.
have they released the modding tools for this shit yet?
Yes, all the modding tools are now out, including the campaign editor. People are cooking but I don't know of any major releases yet.
Yes. It's great
In case this thread goes, I extend an invitation to come to the &tactical general in /vg/, we often talk about Jagged Alliance and other turn based tactics games there
Would rather a /vst/ thread.
There already is one that has been going for months, it's slow as molasses