Will machine translation ever surpass humans so studios can stop paying "translators" and "localizers" to ruin games?

Will machine translation ever surpass humans so studios can stop paying "translators" and "localizers" to ruin games?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's already better than troonyslators since it doesn't censor stuff with evil intent.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >7日
    eh

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Twitter (Japan)

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >jap such a shit language not even a machine can tell what that homie said

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Those people are parasites. If they get direct translation taken away from them then they'll just pivot into worming their way into the organizations behind machine/AI translation and "train" it with western sensibilities.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No it won't, at least not with japanese where it has no idea which pronouns are being used, among other issues

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Localizers
    Bros...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This homie can't even speak English

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No wonder japs are so shit at english if that's your average teacher.

        They hire pajeets and flips who don’t even have English as a first language to teach. Even among English speaking westerners though all you need is a college degree (in anything even gay poetry studies).

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Pajeets and Flips speak better English than your average whitoid.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Flips I guess? I've worked with those guys before and hits a hit or miss, but I couldnt get over pajeets accent and weird phrases, please do the needful isnt entirely a meme as it is accurate to some degree.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Pajeets and Flips speak better English than your average whitoid
            nope

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >My team somnetimes[sic] even tries pleading with the developers to change things for the Japan release too but sadly it's usually fallen on death[sic] ears.
      Maybe the primary reason your bullshit doesn't land is because you can't fricking write properly despite your job being writing/language oriented. Y'know, on top of being an arrogant cultural imperialist.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not just language oriented. English teacher. They should give that man a job at Sony.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >censored resetera username
      kys

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >trying to localise the original version
      >cant even figure out phrases in his own languages -fallen on deaf ears, deaf motherfricker, ears that don't work

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No no anon. He means "death" ears. Like they are so deaf to criticism it's like their ears are dead!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >fallen on death ears
      I will pray every night for his machine overlord replacement

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No wonder japs are so shit at english if that's your average teacher.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, is this really your avg English teacher in Japan?
        Even an ESL like me can notice the grammar mistakes

        If Japan really cared, they'd hire someone with a degree in education/english and not just anybody who's white

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Japan doesn't care, the whole ALT system is designed to make parents think the kids are learning "English" without actually teaching them anything. The Japanese government doesn't want bilingual speakers. They want people who only speak Japanese, because then they can maintain social order, not outsiders.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Japs will never hire a non-white English teacher because they see them as inferior.

          Their English education is all for show simply because America is their master. America doesn't give a frick outside of military bases.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Japan doesn't care at all. Hell a lot of companies will go out of their way to censor themselves just to make it onto Steam these days like Age and Laplacian.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They only censor themselves because the campo santo homosexual keeps banning games for the dumbest reasons. They would usually make an R18+ patch on their website or you can buy their shit on websites like Fantia or dlsite.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >fired
      based

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was unlawful tho

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, is this really your avg English teacher in Japan?
      Even an ESL like me can notice the grammar mistakes

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You should look up some stories on them. I read one a while back about an English Teacher being confused that all his coworkers pretty much ghost and don't interact with him. He said he tried calling out sick one day for a mental health day and the Principal said something like "What? No you have to come in". Then he cried about not having his contract renewed and was sent back to Canada.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          kek I feel pity for the japanese, they would be better off learning English by playing vidya or watching youtube videos like a lot of ESLs on Ganker did than being taught by these hacks

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Japs don't really want to learn English, they just do it because America is their master and being a defeated people it was ingrained inside their psyche that they should at least adopt some of their culture.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, English is easy enough other European countries and hispanics because of similar vocabulary. Japan on the other hand has a completely different sentence structure, vocabulary, and kanji.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >it's only americans shitting on us american troonylators
      No it's not.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >english teacher
      >”death ears”

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >english teacher
      >”death ears”

      Real story
      >I was an English teacher in Japan but got fired due to my lack of teaching skills and bad grammar. Desperate to stay in Japan I was able to get a job at a localization company thanks to contacts from a friend.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        English teachers in Japan are a joke, you can absolutely keep your job even as an esl, because to them you're more akin to an English-speaking attraction than a real teacher.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >were trying to force our values on them and they are resisting us and fired my friend for being disrespectful c**ts
      Liberals are mindless animals that have zero self awareness and can twist anything to make themselves out to be victims.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >My team somnetimes even tries pleading with the developers to change things for the Japan release too but sadly it's usually fallen on deaf ears here.
      Something tells me he might be a little biased on what's "appropriate outside Japan."

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based Japs firing the dumb westerners trying to ruin their media

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >company hires you to do thing
      >do thing awfully and force people to think you're doing it right
      >get fired
      how could he have seen this coming bros

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Funny thing is a lot of people have the impression that localizers know Japanese fluently enough to translate. This isn't true and is the reason why they get paid so little. Most companies have an inhouse translator. A real translator that does a direct translation. The localizers then edit that script.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love machine translation

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >top right
      I'm fricking dying

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >top right
      why are they so autistic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Look at english comments on youtube and any porn site that lets you. It's the same shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >rape!!!
      >it's a compliment

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      2 nukes weren't enough

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >2 nukes
        they were too many

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          now the whole world is paying the price for what the americans did to japan

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      hahaha
      I hecking love japan.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >leroleroperopuspus jujuju papopkpopkopu bussshsuzzrutu (Furious ejaculation Feeling) DubjububuLoo (ejaculation) (ejaculation) (ejaculation) (ejaculation) (ejaculation) (ejaculation) (cumshots)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >pedophile
      >it's a compliment
      comedy gold

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      (Furious ejaculation feeling)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Uohhhhhhhhhhhh!! !! Child erotic!!!!!!!!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >joined june 2014

    [...]

    tweets
    >160 tweets per day
    why/how are "people" like this

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick memorizing thousands of different characters. Shit language. For nip vidya, just use Textractor++ to extract text, then translate using DeepL/Sugoi Translator V3, wrap the text, then inject it back into the game. I refuse to learn Japanese.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Translator++*, but Textractor works too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh, Don't use fricking google. Just use deepL and set the timeout for like 2 min and wait a day or 2. You'll get an very good translation that you can directly inject into the game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Can you do this with websites too? Like auto set it to translate paragraphs of texts or chapters on syosetu as that is the only way I can see text being broken up on syosetu.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks. I doubt you want to take the time to teach me, so is there a place u can point me to, to learn? Or is it super streamlined and all I need is Textractor++, and just fiddle around with that?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              https://dreamsavior.net/translator-plusplus/
              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHgS5mw62c6ndKL5Wb17b8w/videos

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks. I'll give it a gander.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >MTLtard
          >reads narou-kei shit
          Suicide is the only option.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >wrap the text, then inject it back into the game.
      This seems too good to be true. What kind of games does it work on?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        any kind that uses localization files rather than hard-baked translations. so basically any game made by anyone competent.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >rather than hard-baked translations
          Why do some games do that shit? I fricking hate it. Some do it for music and shit too.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I've seen it mostly done with global releases of reigon-exclusive games. like if a game's only been in japanese for like 4 years and they're finally translating it, they probably have a whole new team working on the global release and it requires less knowledge of the inner workings of the game to hard bake them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      only acceptable for porn, doing this for anything with a story you're supposed to care about is literally just wasting your own time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Selphie
      It's fricking Serufi you fricking MTL hack.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is it really that good?
      How good is the L.Depth AI translation?
      has anyone played that?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Translator++ is dogshit and won't save you if you're working on games which make heavy use of text-images or easy-to-break scripting. When it comes to translating RPG Maker games, you're better off using a combination of simpler tools, plus knowing the ins and outs of the maker itself plus the scripting languages employed by them.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    there's already a machine translator that is better than human translators
    it was tried in blind tests and everyone found the machine to do a better job than the human translators

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's not possible without AI with human intelligence. Machine translation can be highly accurate and just as good as human translators with short statements, a sentence or two, and some paragraphs or whatever. A machine translated novel though? No. There's too much subtle nuasance and grand narratives that would be lost with machine translation.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where did the stupid idea of "localization" translation come from? I have to give them credit for being able to sucker studios into letting them mistranslate stuff.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on what you mean by localization, but it comes from the fact that there is no such thing as a 1 to 1 translation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I mean the social-media "localization" types who intentionally mistranslate to get their thinking injected into shows.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          same as everything else
          power hungry jannie trannie doing everything they can to get their agenda everywhere + nepotism that would make even israelites envious

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just the successor to games in the 90's and such being localized to remove references to religion, alcohol, sexual content, etc, and changing the plot and character names to be more "understandable" for Western audiences.
      The more things change the more they stay the same.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, same puritans, different mask

        Even if the ideology changes the personality type is eternal

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait when Ken Akamatsu wins so games wont get meme translated by these ~~*localizers*~~

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Love Hina author?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes he's running for office.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Whats he gonna do?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes he's running for office.

              Based. I always liked Live Hina and Negima

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              /ourcandidate/
              If he wins it'll be a golden era for weebs such as myself.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And how he'll fight burgerland's cultural imperialists?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cutting the middleman off and just hiring in house translators composed of actual Japs who just happen to know English and kept on a tight leash, that or drawing the line with companies like Funimation

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >just hiring in house translators composed of actual Japs who just happen to know English and kept on a tight leash
                Uh anon that's already how they do it. This is how localziation works.
                >Japanese Text - Direct Translation - Localization
                Remember for River City Girls and Judgement how they had an option for the direct translation? The localizers and their defenders were seething over it because if enough people liked the direct option they could just cut them out entirely. That's hundreds of jobs gone in an instant.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wait, there's really an EXTRA step where they intentionally frick up the games? Holy shit, give every game the Direct TL option. Let them have their shitty jobs, just give me the direct and I'll be happy.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Holy shit, give every game the Direct TL option
                They won't do this. The outcry from Judgement having that option probably backed a lot of companies from doing it. River City Girls 2 tried it again and it ended up with just as big of a backlash.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Did they really kvetch loud enough to completely dissuade companies? Frick, man.
                I remember reading the "Here's why Direct TL is bad." bullshit in threads when RCG2 came out and I thought it was small, not a big subset of them.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I dont know how this is meant to be regulated by the government.
              The studios just have to actually hire legit translators and keep them inhouse on a leash.
              Optimally real japanese who learned english.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think it's more meant as censorship regarding external influences impacting the overall creative process, not only when exporting it
                in other words, westcucks influencing japs to make politically correct things to begin with

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You won't hear anything about him after July 10th after he loses with only 20 votes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The LDP wins every election, not only because Japan is fairly conservative on average but because all the other parties are such genuine dogshit that no one in their right mind would vote for them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Japan is a one party state since post-WW2, the only handful of times they didn't have a LDP leader the deep state made sure to sabotage them forcing the people to keep voting LDP.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous
            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Frick this Black person

              He ruined my waifu and also ruined Negima

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I wanted Beatrix to have more screentime on Negima.
                And yes UQ Holder is kinda bad.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't even bother with UQ Holder

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The shundo race in that space elevator thing? and the true Negima ending were the only good things.
                The rest is hot garbage.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I wanted Beatrix to have more screentime on Negima.
                And yes UQ Holder is kinda bad.

                I only read Negima up until the tournament arc and that was back 2008 iirc. What happened?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                IIRC the MC just leaves on a mythical journey and nobody won

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wait really? Negi doesnt end up with any if the girls?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                IIRC, it's been a minute and I wasn't even into it but I had an acquaintance that was and he was fuming when it ended
                that's why I know

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lot of things.
                Read Negima until the Chapter 353, jump to Uq Holder and read chapter 137 (start on page 32) 138, 139 and 140 (until page30) and never look back.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Took a massive dump on his own manga essentially.

                It was a shitstorm on Ganker as well.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                His editor ruined it more like. Though it turns out that without an editor looking over his shoulder he's not very good, so I guess Negima was really the peak of what he can create, in many ways.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I liked how Love Hina ended, though I rooted for Mutsumi. Was it supposed to end differently?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I was talking about Negima.

                On that note though, Akamatsu wanted to stop working on Love Hina long before it ended, but the publishers kept him on it since it sold well. He really only made good stuff when forced to it seems.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Aye, alright. I havent caught up with Negima all these years so I guess Ill go see ehat the frick happened myself

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's so funny seeing ree-era and plebbit seethe about the LDP constantly winning when they unironically either want the communist party or the western liberal one to win. Neither of them have a dog in that race so I find it strange they care so much.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes he's running for office.

              >tfw all the hentai artists I follow on twatter also follow him
              Man of the people I see

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Mangaka and Japanese artists have been making fanart of telling people to vote for him
              I hope this becomes more and more prominent before new Japanese authors become brainwashed by globalist israelites.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Its already begun

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers don't care about harem fanservice manga

                They care about isekai and shonenshit

                Naked teenage girls and panties flying off is a boomer millennial thing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I mean Negima is technically shounenshit a few volumes in

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean Negima is technically shounenshit a few volumes in
                yeah and it killed the manga

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Zoomers don't care about harem fanservice manga
                >They care about isekai
                Isekai is full of harem fanservice shit. Hell, Isekai is more degenerate than most other genres because you can buy e-girls and women as slaves and that's considered a good thing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >because you can buy e-girls and women as slaves and that's considered a good thing.
                BASED

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              bros, can we hope that his based man removes censoring from hentai. Sometimes i wish i get reincarnated as a japanese man and grow up to be the politician who uncensors hentai, dignity be damned, the whole world wants it

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When homosexuals say they want a literal translation from japanese instead of an interpretation, show them this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that isn't a literal translation it's a butchered machine translation

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's word for word 1:1 translation.
        That's what you get when you translate a language that doesn't follow the same syntax as the targeted language.
        This happens with most Eastern Europe languages, too.
        Anything that isn't this is an interpretation to have it make sense in your targeted language, homosexual.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Motte and Bailey. You can convey 100% of the original meaning even if you need to change a few words or the grammar. There's an incredibly stark difference between an accurate translation and a localization, and you're trying to pretend there isn't.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this is the part where someone posts that comic of anime girls where their dialogue changes between literal translation, what troonyslators think literal translation is, and their localization

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They'd tell you they want the literal translation like they have been for years.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No it won't because you homosexuals keep changing how the language works.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, just learn jap.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cringecord
      it's proprietary malware
      https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        my files got cryptoed when visiting
        thanks troony

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >implying the people i met through discord would willingly switch to anything other than discord because of some schizo's neocities page

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i hope

      How do we know these aren't just falseflaggers? I could literally just install Discord and create two accounts, invite them to a private server and make them have any conversation I'd like, then screencap it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        and now you understand why Ganker is shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of these people are known employees on company discords. Pretty sure puffketer does a lot of work in the visual novel industry with Mangagamer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also notice the dates are always removed or "today", so the bait can be used without end. I've seen discord screenshots many years old used as bait for "an ongoing raid".

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand people who complain about game localisation
    If it's really that big of an issue for you just learn Japanese
    There are guides on learning Japanese on THIS website
    If I can do it you can too anon, I believe in you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >there are guides for learning Japanese on this website
      Wait what???
      Which board???

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Holy frick thanks anon, I memorized their alphabet from YouTube but after that every resource wanted stacks of cash or was unintelligible

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            頑張れ

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Thans anon, I will

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just simply take the 10 years of your life and learn the language doood! it's that simple dood!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >just simply take the 10 years of
        Anon...realistically it should take you 5 years to be fluent. That's not even considering it should take only a little over a year for you to be able to play vidya with a kanji dictionary. That's actual studying though. Not the /r/LearnJapanese style where they claim it takes decades because they spend months learning just the Kana. Spend an hour or two a day and you'll be golden.The initial bit where you just have to memorize shit is going to be boring but once you pass that hurdle which should take no more than a month it becomes fun because you just need to consume media.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >/r/LearnJapanese
          So why is it that they have such long timelines for everything?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Have you never been to reddit before? It's filled with literal morons. There's a great post I saw years back about a guy saying he was planning on finishing RTK after some absurd length of time, like 20 years or something. Meanwhile, anyone with half a brain can get through it in 3 months with 20 minutes of work a day.

            Reddit is the epitome of "we trained him wrong, as a joke". Anyone who tries to tell these morons that they're wasting their time gets banned for "being mean".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >just learn an entire language bro
      >who cares if this does nothing about the problem of trannoids ruining games for everyone else
      moron

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Other people shouldn't matter to you

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what, you think you know what i should and shouldn't concern myself with now, mom?
          >inb4 w-w-well at lea-
          your parents never loved you

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Now I'm just even more convinced that other people shouldn't matter to you, just for a different reason. You don't have the capacity

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Now I'm just even more convinced that other people shouldn't matter to you, just for a different reason. You don't have the capacity

          unironically meds

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >If I can do it
      How dumb are you? Like what level of schooling? I'm ADHD as hell and it has fricked up my academic prospects completely, but if you're more moronic than I am then I might consider giving it a go

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Dude dont complain about the quality of steel, just make your own steel
      >Dude dont complain about the freshness of your vegetables at the store, just grow your own
      >Dude dont complain about your botched surgery, just do your own healthcare

      You are missing the point. The point is that you should be able to trust someone who has spent significant time in a field they turned into their profession to do an honest job. Yes, theoretically I can learn to do all these things, but its what it means to live in a working society in good faith that I can place trust in other people to do their best.

      If that's lost, then what the frick are we even doing?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>Dude dont complain about the freshness of your vegetables at the store, just grow your own
        Unironically, yes. Stop eating poisoned crap.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Unironically, yes.
          where the hell would i grow it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's because you are misinformed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      EOPs refuse to do anything to better their situation in life, they believe that's solely the responsibility of other people who have no reason to change a working system to suit a loud minority.

      The irony is sadly lost on them, they're no better than the trannies crying about games deadnaming them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >If it's really that big of an issue for you just learn Japanese

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I would have said no five years ago, but it depends
    "AI" and "Machine Learning" is a really bullshit marketing term being thrown around a lot lately, but the level of pattern recognition that you can get with GPT-3 is great (try NovelAI if you like to write, it's neat)
    The problem is, you'd need:
    a) a massive database of phrase to phrase japanese to english translations
    that
    b) aren't 'localized' garbage that doesn't match up, so you can't just use game rips

    if you somehow had both, it would probably work great. Anime grammar is mocked for being so stilited and dramatic but that means that if they are speaking in stock phrases all the time (nakedashi? dame, dame, ikuuuuuu!) then the AI should be pretty frickin' bang up
    You'd want a proofreader but yeah, I'd say we're getting closer

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can GPT-3 keep track of enough stuff at once to not get lost while translating the entire work or even a series of works?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it's another localization/tranlation thread

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Weebs. You don't see anyone cares about this shit in Ganker or Ganker

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Literal translation
    >It's been bothering me for 7 days straight now whether it's a swimsuit or just underwear, but it's really lewd either way ... !! Stuff like the tummy area and the left thigh being so thick, and the way the breasts are pushing away the water ... !!!
    >Cleaned up translation
    >It's been bothering me for 7 days straight that the swimsuit looks like underwear, it's making them look too lewd ... !! The stomach area and one of her legs are at least body positive ... !!!
    There, I fixed the problematic tweet. Just because it's okay to be problematic in Japan doesn't mean you should accept it. As translators, we can do better.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >keeping 7 days in
      never gonna make it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >keeping 7 days in
      never gonna make it

      >7日
      eh

      I don't get it, what's wrong with the 7 days bit? Is it supposed a week or something?
      t. Runelet

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a typo.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's supposed to be なのか and not 7日

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no, in fact it's strange how far it is behind similar things like AI generated artwork

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Most studios already use machine translation with an editor now, its how people like it.
    None of that political bs is added that way. No more liberal politics in muh vidya games.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe ten years? Feels like it's constantly getting better. Now, you can at least get the gist of most things compared to the 100% nonsensical shit of ten yeara ago. SOme overview will be needed for fiction with uin que tuerms behyt bhe rest ca n be done bt c achien at that potjn t

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      call 911

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >@pottsness
    Instantly knew it was a Lumine art. Dude loves him some Loom.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    She's right, you know.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What's with this view people have that every game has to be interesting to everyone? There's nothing wrong with pandering to a niche.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        when people working on artistic mediums start parroting shareholder and suit talking points because they completely internalized and embraced them you know its over.
        these people are meant to butt heads with the shareholder israelites to keep the soul intact, not walk in lockstep with them.

        but its probably more sinister than that anyways. they claim its for mass appeal but its actually just to spread their ideologies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you'll never frick that troony ass anon so stop shilling her moron opinions.

      2 nukes weren't enough

      >be America.
      >0 nukes.
      >has the most moron society in the world.
      >is considered a meme country that complain about everything but has more criminals, Black folk, trannies and pedos than any other country in the world.
      >still think the problem is Japan.
      One plane wasn't enough.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You do realize "she's right you know?" posts are troll posts, right?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >One plane wasn't enough.
        Good thing there was THREE then.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, I agree with the statement but that also implies not inserting obnoxious personal politics/morals/culture into it since that is obviously repulsive to a lot of people.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I only play my hentai games in the finest machine translations

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it can't be helped.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No and never.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DeepL is pretty impressive. I'm decent at Japanese and I use it sometimes when I don't want to think. It's not 100%, so I'll modify the message as necessary. That being said, Google Translate (for Japanese at least) is fricking horrid and for some reason wrong most of the time. Not sure how they fricked it up that badly, but it's beyond saving.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >learn kana
    >get to kanji
    >get completely overhelmed, how am I supposed to remember thousands of complex characters
    >on top of it I need to remember how to read them
    >completely lose will to learn
    how do I overcome that? it just looks impossible to me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Legitimately, just read.
      Yes, it's going to suck at first.
      But the longer you keep at it, the less and less and less it sucks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I tried this with Animal Crossing but KK Slider kicked my ass right out the gate. Should I try to power through or go simpler?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, so genius anon only read about 200 books to barely have the need of looking up words.
        That shit seems like rocket science. Is every japanese a fricking japanese professor?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You have to study alongside that too anon...

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What about the japanese brainlets. What the frick are they doing? Running around with a dictionary?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, maybe try telling these translators and localizers about it so they can do their jobs right the first time instead of releasing half-assed products?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >how am I supposed to remember thousands of complex characters
      there are two ways, you either do isolated kanji study and memorize them with mnemonics or you drill them with the jp1k method.
      https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kanji.html

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Go to /djt/ on the /jp/ board. Download the Anki deck with the most common Kanji. Study that while you play Japanese shit. Make an Anki card for everything you look up too. You'll gradually start recognizing them. Don't just do decks and reps. That's the main thing people do wrong. Play and consume.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You unironically don't. Americans have a really REALLY difficult time comprehending Japanese for some reason, which is probably why you see so many people on this website who claim to know Japanese. Lord knows Ganker is full of thirdworlders.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        thank god I'm euro

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Use common sense learning.

      The best way to adapt to a new language is by hearing and speaking it FIRST, then learning how to write and read.

      >learn common phrases and words
      >learn how to write them down
      >learn their permutations
      >continue learning more phrases and learn how to write them down as you go along

      It maps in the brain differently than rote memorization of data.
      By knowing the "natural" use of a word or a phrase it maps a different way in your head when you learn how to write it and read it.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Never

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I only know kana but isn't this just english written in hiragana?
      I can clearly read
      >welcome
      >yummyyummy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >はらぺこはんぐりーべりーなう!!!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >おいしい
      >はらぺこ
      >からっぽ
      Literally impossible to read.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    'Translators' localise every single game as if it were aimed at children, who cannot be expected to think outside their own culture or find shit out. It's a pretty ignorant and culturally imperialistic mindset to have. It's bizarre that these people could ever have the commitment to learn another language.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://kenakamatsu.jp/cat-nothing/post-20302/
    https://kenakamatsu.jp/cat-expression/post-20328/

    I see why you like him now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Another disingenuous liberal.
      This is why I NEVER trust anything in English regarding a non Anglo nation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That guy was found to have done shit in the 60s or something and had nothing to do with the anime statements.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's called distraction via virtue signaling, moron.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone should just learn one language so we can stop bothering with this shit. English would be the best candidate because it is so widespread, but if some moron wants to make up a new universal language, be my guess.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Esperanto.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Esperanto sounds weird. Like I get it "makes sense gramatically" but why does it need to be closer to spanish or other romance languages, not that I hate Spanish.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      More people speak Chinese, and those Kanji are just the Japanese copying Chinese characters

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        English speakers can be found in most countries, while Chinese speakers are mostly in China. I'm sure Chinese is spreading as more people do business there, but English would be much easier to implement.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently it's a stereotypes that ex-pats from Canada tend to be the most vocal on wanting to change Japan into Canada/America-Lite. What's the deal with that? I've heard it's Canadians doing that to Brazil, Germany, and Britain too.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    probably not

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    English teacher who does translation on the side occasionally here.
    Screw these manbabies who whine about their jobs. The role of translator is the put the original speaker/writers words in an unsullied as possible understanding for the listener. With skill/luck if should be a nigh perfect translation with zero real alterations.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hey just an fyi but they aren't machines, they're artificial intelligence systems and they have rights.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. The problem lies within context. An AI can never 100% accurately translate what you're trying to convey because it's not keeping track of the entire conversation.

    Some things just don't translate well either. Basically you need a giant neural network AI keeping track of your conversations, but would you want it to?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      By the time they can translate accurately, you'll probably be able to dump and entire book and have it done within a minute.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shut the frick up moron, machine tl is a shit

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. There's no machine TL on the planet that could have given us RE4 Leon

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The unfortunate reality is that a lot of newer Japanese games are caving and adhering to stupid western shit. Slowly but surely they aren’t even censoring anything, a few releases recently started to avoid mentioning gender and writing things about how sexual abuse is bad or people of color are important or something. As much garbage as it is, people wanting reasonable things like niches are losing and dying out.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Machine translation will be just as or more efficient than human brains. I'm sure that makes the weeaboos seethe that my phone can do something in fraction of a second that they have unsuccessfully worked for decades to do.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    someone make a
    paedophiles
    paedophiles, japan
    meme

    also, does japan have a child molester problem, or are they contained by the e-girl images? curious.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i hope

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >"We won't make a similar pun in English, instead we will do a political joke!"
      I'm so glad I started learning Japanese. The West has become completely insane and brain rotten, it'll take decades to undo the damage that's been done.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Will machine translation ever surpass humans so studios can stop paying "translators" and "localizers" to ruin games?
    No. Realistically machine translation should work in tandem with localisation as in you plop it into a translator and then forge it into something that makes sense.

    Of course that would require localisation teams with standards.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why don't game companies just hire real translators like all other normal corporations, too expensive or something?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Real translators are busy translating actually important documents for good pay. Leaving video games with only the rare passionate enthusiast and, more commonly, the failed writer shoved into the position through nepotism and cliques.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Or even worse, the failed "artists" who couldn't crack writing as an author, so now they need to turn their translations into "creative" works.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Will machine translation ever surpass humans so studios
    Machines don't understand nuance

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just normalize calling them racist cultural imperialists who hate Japanese culture, use their moronation against them. I'm sure that makes them seethe.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I get my political viewpoints from Twitter screenshots.
    God you're pathetic.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Was she ever a good resource to learn Jap or was she a meme?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, it was a terrible resource that was memed to mislead people.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It helped me, at least.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Americans somehow have the worst aspects of both muslims and chinks.

    >move to new country
    >complain about how country isn't like the one you left
    >complain about how foreign media doesn't comply with your sensibilities
    >rally your countrymen to harass foreigners

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know how they turned out like this.
      >Americans used to pride themselves on sex and violence
      >Now they only care about liveleak type of violence and no sexy shit to be seen these days
      The cultural brainwashing of America really is a sad thing. (You) guys used to be cool and different, now you're just lame.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I blame social media.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Autosage
    Thank jannies, once again you've "improved" the board quality

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it's 2030
    >Have studied japanese for 8 years to read original versions
    >Can understand 99%
    >Japan has been throughly pozzed by now and the troonyslators have nothing to alter.
    >Start learning Chinese..

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Neural nets are able to do art stuff that were thought impossible, and generate voices now. It can absolutely do translation with nuance soon no problem.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >jannies are mad that localizations are rightfully shit on
    lol

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