Will they carry the retarded about of bloat into PoE2?

Will they carry the moronic about of bloat into PoE2?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They promised that all characters and items will be compatible with the sequel, so certainly yes.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They promised that all characters and items will be compatible with the sequel, so certainly yes.
      Oof

      Why would they not want to start from a clean table

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        because it saves them a ton of money on making new cosmetics

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        All it is is a graphics overhaul with some new paid skins, anon. Oh and you have to rebuy your stash tabs.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you have to rebuy your stash tabs.
          why do people always have to tack on some moronic lie that invalidates everything else they say

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I could have been wrong about the stash tabs but everything else is correct. Not my problem you suffer from brain damage.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's not correct though, liar.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They promised that all characters and items will be compatible with the sequel
      If they removed every league mechanic but you kept all the items on your old characters wouldn't that technically be compatible?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        they aren't going to remove content

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >they aren't going to remove content
          They do that every league?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except they confirmed that while they're retaining the original campaign you won't be able to move them over to the PoE2 campaign and will have to create a new character.
      It's a good opportunity to hard split people's accounts and start fresh.
      Same thing with stash tabs, we'll keep them but I don't think all of them will work in the PoE2 campaign.
      League mechanics will be gone too. Certainly no heists.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    *amount

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cluster israeliteels were the end for me, I just couldn't deal with that degree of loot autism. For other players who've dipped out, what did it for you?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was just a combination of having to replay the same fricking campaign every time (they should really just make it like D3) and fatigue from samey league mechanics. Bloated is really the perfect word to describe it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's all nerfs!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      nothing, just the campaign in normal mode being tedious and unfun and endgame in ruthless being tedious and unfun. If they combined ruthless campaign with normal endgame that would be perfect

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        this but permabanning and arresting anyone who plays ruthless and deleting the campaign entirely

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >arresting Chris Willson
          enjoy the lack of friction.
          I find it odd that people still request automated Auction Houses in PoE when doing so would, thanks to PoBs calculator, allow players to automatically get the best gear for their build in seconds at the push of a button for cheap.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            like 99.9% of the people playing don't know about that pob function

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I liked cluster israeliteels and the league they came in
      But that was also the last league I played seriously
      Tried excavation and hated it, haven't played since.
      One big thing for me is all the league starters I liked are dead and so are most of my 2nd builds

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      There exist extremely clear, singular, impossible to argue against point of that game going to shit, separating everything into before and after.
      >Patch 3.15
      People who play poe after that are some kind of hyper ultra cuckolds, there's no equivalent in entire recorded history of humanity to level of cuckoldry they display.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        this

        I liked cluster israeliteels and the league they came in
        But that was also the last league I played seriously
        Tried excavation and hated it, haven't played since.
        One big thing for me is all the league starters I liked are dead and so are most of my 2nd builds

        that league was delirium and it was awesome because of the massive, complicated expansive power creep across the board for tons of completely neglected and non-viable builds that suddenly came into existence. there has been no patch before or since that added more builds, more replayability and more enjoyment to the game.
        it was all nerfed brutally in the next patch, of course, as a prelude to the 3.15 giganerfing resulting in the death of the game. it honestly feels like those two patches were developed by different companies.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I play leagues where the mechanics look interesting or some build I like is strong. I don't play leagues where neither of those things happen, simple as.
      Crucible was a dogshit league mechanic, but it enable what is probably the single most stupidly busted build the game has ever seen. Being able to steamroll absolutely every piece of content in the game on a relatively small budget has been a blast.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't follow it for like 2 years, what exactly was even worse than delirium and heist aura stacking?
        Regardless, it's yet another proof of poe game designers being a bunch of braindead animals who suck themselves off all day. Another attempt to shit all over the players, another episode of players turning out to be much smarter than them and breaking those attempts over a knee.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Realistically there's too many variables in PoE to accurately predict everything, and (in part due to the economy and time investment) GGG tends to avoid meaningful patches mid league. Its a catch 22

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Somehow few dozens of autists who do it for the entertainment are capable of accounting for those values and finding effective solutions involving all of them.
            At the same time bald moron keeps screeching at his chimps to nerf player power enough for everyone to be spending 3 months in the game for every league and looking at MTX, but they can't account for shit despite being literally paid money for it, and aforementioned autists humiliate them again and again.
            But seriously, I can't recall any other game developers of which were as virulently hostile, resentful and entitled towards their playerbase that provides them with paycheck, as poe.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >But seriously, I can't recall any other game developers of which were as virulently hostile, resentful and entitled towards their playerbase that provides them with paycheck, as poe.
              Warframe comes to mind. One of the reasons I said "frick this game" years ago, was a Devstream when they joked about nerfs right after they deployed another batch of nerfs that wasn't well received.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          They added a couple of israeliteels and a flask that made you basically immortal to everything when used together. They also added passive trees on weapons obtained through the crucible mechanic and one of those passives let you make a totem build that capped dot damage on uber bosses (or did something like 300 mil hit damage if you wanted to build that way).

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Atlas tree probably. I'd suffered through all the shitty atlas mechanics before it knowing that they'd be replaced in a year but somehow the atlas tree has near universal acclaim despite making the game really tiresome so it's going to be around forever and I'm just not going to play anymore.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      they kind of phased out of the meta unless you need some kind of keystone from the small nodes, or some kind of autistic specific node
      Large physical and minion are still probably BiS though. But yeah, they fricking suck.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As long as they keep balancing around logout macro it will be shit to play. The game is very fun from theorizing pov, but when you get to actually experience ~~*gameplay*~~ puking bucket is a must.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    define bloat. do you mean league mechanics like delve? cause you don't have to do any of that. you can just grind maps if you want. don't take away shit other people enjoy just because some noob might get choice paralysis or whatever

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bloat
    explain this meme
    why do people want LESS content
    you know you can turn any of them you want off right?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's more of rewards being completly all over place than actual content.
      Like best way of farming breach shards wasn't actually playing breaches but grinding heists.
      but game is in desperate need of cleanup. It carries over shitload of legacy mechanics that just clog up entire thing. Current league's weapons trees? it's not going core, but mechanic stays in game just to humor 4 people who actually play standard.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why do people want LESS content
      Too many toppings ruin the pizza.
      in b4 food memes

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        frick you
        i love making my own pizza and loading the frick out of it

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >playing Poop of Excrement in 2003 + 20

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just can't go back after Grim Dawn., I just... can't. They'll have to pull a miracle out of their arse before I go back again. Like a massive improvement to their animation. I can read the game in GD by animation chunks because actions have very defined effects on animations. In PoE it's limited to stagger type animations for 80% of it's actions. There's frick all variety. And the chances of that getting a mekover is basically 0. The game is stagnant, and likely always will be.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can literally turn of all the content that you dont want
    what the frick do you mean by bloat

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can disable any mechanics you don't like and really boost the mechanics you enjoy for almost 2 years now
    jesus

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Autistic sunk cost morons crawl out if the woodwork to defend pointless feature additions because you can turn them off

    PoEgays are hilarious. Imagine defending a game that exists entirely for you to trade random trash to Chinese bots while spamming the same click macro over and over.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >optional content in MY game?!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Play SSF, problem solved.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I play SSF and literally never have that experience.
      My biggest problem with the game right now is that every league is just stalling before PoE2 and devs are too afraid to actually do skill balancing for whatever reason.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blizztroonys mad
    Doomposters mad
    HCucks mad
    Chris Wilson won
    Cope and Seethe

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >frogposters
      >shit taste
      like clockwork

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >frogtoasters
        Ftfy

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw POE2 will replace Templar with chinkoid Monk

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick me, really?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They showed a monk model but anything else is speculation.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          honestly it's either a dex/ int replacing assassin or str/ int replacing templar. The gameplay and the fact he uses quarterstaff seems to imply the latter.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >replace
      its 7 new classes and new characters

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >diablo 4 is not a game
    what did he mean by this

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      he was right
      diablo 4 is a toy
      poe is a game.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bloat
    They fixed it with "Remove shit completely" nodes in atlas.
    Optional "bloat" isn't bloat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They fixed it with "Remove shit completely" nodes in atlas.
      Wasn't aware about that. Does it bring any benefits?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        increases the rate of shit you haven't blocked
        you can make it so your content you want shows up nearly every map

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        for every removed mechanic the non removed mechanics get more chance to spawn in your maps naturally

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, more chances for shit you leave intact, obviously.
        I can run shit I want almost every map without scarabs and with HUD I can just ignore maps that don't have content I want.
        Literally the only good thing bald moron did in the last year iirc.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    too many nerfs on meta skills with too few buffs on non meta skills
    If I follow a guide and use meta skills I can clear almost all the content no problem but if I dont and do my own shit that I feel like doing (like melee skills such as Vaal Ground Slam Chieftain) its unlikely Ill be able to farm red maps consistently

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's really funny for people to b***h endlessly about Destiny 2 sunsetting and people in Path of Exile are begging the devs to remove content

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      dumb Black folk don't like having options

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the content they sunset in Destiny 2 is expansion content you paid for and was for the most part decent content, coupled with the predatory monetization model they created after leaving Activision making people spend hundreds of money-bucks for shit that used to be included in the price of the expansion and move towards P2W through battle pass maybe ?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not hard to make 90% of the skills in the game T16 viable on a budget consisting of one week of casual play. The big problem is the massive knowledge gulf between hitting maps and figuring out how to make money.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      min-maxed bad skill will still be much worse than non min-maxed good skill if we assume a medium level of competence in the game
      Theres no reason all melee besides boneshatter should eat so much shit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >min-maxed bad skill will still be much worse than non min-maxed good skill
        yeah obviously, but if the bad skill was as good as the good skill, it would just be a good skill. People b***hing about the meta just want what they like to be meta instead. There is zero possibility of making a hundred different skills equally balanced.

        All playstyles have uber juiced endgame representation. Melee, self cast, traps, totems, mines, etc. To what extent the variety of that playstyle exists changes with patches but they exist. If someone wants to beat the hardest content, they have to use the best skills. This applies to literally every ARPG and other genres of RPG.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There is zero possibility of making a hundred different skills equally balanced.
          This isn't the main problem, the issue is GGG selectively gives certain skills crazy amounts of extra mechanics (like Boneshatter) to make them viable but for the bad skills, even though they can PoB the effects of increasing a skills damage by 200% (it will still not be meta) they instead buff it by 20% once a year. This is doubly a weird decision because PoE builds don't use a wide variety of non-utility skills in the first place so having 2 really strong attacks wouldn't make boneshatter-dual strike really OP suddenly.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    PoE2 is L I T E R A L L Y PoE. It's just a glorified new league with a new campaign that people won't even play if it takes even slightly longer than the original campaign which will still be available.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They already said you can 'choose' which campaign to play, PoE 1 or PoE 2.

    So nothing really will change. I will still play the old campaign because it's faster to reach maps. No one cares about the story.

    Stash Tabs are shared, so you wont need to buy anymore.

    My guess is that they will just add another 'difficulty' so you have to play through the story an extra time before you can reach maps.

    The new 6 Link on every slot system sounds completely dumb and broken. It also removes an end-game chase, because you wont need to 6socket or 6link anymore.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >because you wont need to 6socket or 6link anymore.
      ha hahaha

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    they fixed the bloat a lot already, but i'd welcome a reduction in currencies and shards yes

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    test

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can check if you're banned without posting, you moronic newbie.

      https://www.Ganker.org/banned

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        lurk 3 years before posting zoom zoom your thread sucks low iq

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    how the frick do you actually make good currency
    i swear all the Black folk getting multiple mirrors in the first week must RMT

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      no one here is going to be able to tell you how to make multiple mirrors in one week without serious poopsocking. Most of the time it's party related anyway

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      in the first week prices are very skewed and clever traders know how to exploit this, there's a guide on this by some guy but I dont remember his name, hes a /poeg/ gay who shits on RMTers

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        belton ?

        >just sit in your hideout all day bro and trade no need to kill monsters or anything
        IMO the best way to get currency was in
        sanctum ,, you get to choose your reward and sometimes you get fricked by rng ,, was completely balanced and fun way to get currency that isn't heist or involve trading

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>just sit in your hideout all day bro and trade no need to kill monsters or anything
          this actually works, I talked to some guy who had only about 5 Achievements in the league and he was giving away Divs/Super Belts like crazy. A few tips he gave me is flip div cards, 6 sockets and 6links (by vendoring them) and some other shit.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>just sit in your hideout all day bro and trade no need to kill monsters or anything
          this actually works, I talked to some guy who had only about 5 Achievements in the league and he was giving away Divs/Super Belts like crazy. A few tips he gave me is flip div cards, 6 sockets and 6links (by vendoring them) and some other shit.

          hideout warriors are super efficient. The reason they're so rich is not that what they do is highly profitable, it's just that they are CONSTANTLY doing it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, 5 hours of sitting in the hideout is sometimes better than 5 hours of grinding ubers. People were doing large scale tests of uber grinding and they barely get much.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    lake of kalandra was one of the best leagues in years
    FIGHT ME

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Legacy items will carry over all the same, how relevant or altered they'll be due to numerous mechanics changing would be another question entirely. League-specific content of the past could also be shitcanned or reworked like usual, I'd expect release to shuffle up the endgame and maybe have different masters by then.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. It's doomed from the start. The other option was to piss off the whales so they never stood a chance.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    if support gems are spcketed into active gems then theres no point in tabula rasa, is there?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I vaguely remember that it's got more sockets for active gems so it might have some niche uses? Everything's probably changed a bit in the four or so years since exilecon.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, they will.
    ONE GAME.
    TWO CAMPAIGNS.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Feel the thrill of THE VOID!

      ?t=88
      the most kino part of this game

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    lost ark sisters...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone with 2 brain cells knew Lost Ark was FOTM trash with no staying power.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's to hoping they scrapped that moronic "every gem can be a 6-slot" idea. Game has massive powercreep? Why not just hand every person the potential for 10 6-slot gems?? morons

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah as long as they do something about dot stacking (something good I mean, not just nerfing them all so that you have to stack six dots to do damage) it's a good change. The chest slot being hard gated by linking it is terrible for a game that's ostensibly about incremental gear upgrades.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    its no longer bloat
    get good, learn the game

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      honestly this
      and especially because like 90% of it is optional.
      also maybe im a insane but i would like an option to re do the acts after i finish the acts.
      like if i get to level 100 and have an uber nuking build, why cant i go through the acts again and 1 shot everything?
      or if i hate ALL of the post campaign content why cant i just infinitely replay the campaign and choose how hard i want it
      like prestiging the campaign.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >waaah I hate content

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's 4.0. Of course it will.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    PoE is arguably the best F2P game ever but they are too afraid/stubborn to change things that need changing. You should have an opportunity to skip the campaign, you should get a free second character with level 68 when your first one reaches maps, and there needs to be an option to "auto-sell" one item every 4 hours or so.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you should get a free second character with level 68 when your first one reaches maps
      what the frick are you talking about?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the most moronic thing I've ever read. Go back to Diablo 3 lol.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    PoE2 has the possibility of filling the gap between the autism of PoE and the insane casualness of D3/D4. Hopefully GGG realizes this and makes a game that's not quite as autism-ridden as PoE ended up being.

    If they do that, they can make 10x the amount of content, because they don't have to run every single little change through a billion math calculations to make sure that everything fits and works.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    People still whine about content bloat, but we've had ways to block specific content for a few leagues now. Not an issue anymore, come up with someone new to complain about.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DUUUDE JUST OPEN ANOTHER PASSIVE TREE WITH RESPEC POINTS YOU HAVE TO BUY AND SKILL POINTS TO EARN
      BALD
      FRICKING
      moron

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Orbs of Regret have been INCREDIBLY cheap for half a decade now, what the frick are you talking about?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          FRICK OFF BALDO NO REAL PERSON WILL JOIN YOUR GROOMER DISCORD TRADING CARTAL

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            what
            PoE has had an official trading website for a long time now and you can buy regrets off vendors cheap

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >playing trade league

            lol you opinion doesnt matter, you dont matter

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They have to, end-game characters from both 1 & 2 will be able to play together.

      I extremely doubt "blocking" all the bloat makes it not mandatory, you're just gimping yourself for the sake of winning a lost argument.

      The reason no one knows about your "block" feature is because no one plays PoE anymore, you're as fringe and small as genshin players.
      >b-b-b-b-but genshin is super big!
      Maybe among the chinese, but in the countries that matter there are vastly few people who still give a shit about it, which is why you never see anyone talking about it outside of specific places created to talk about it, such as a thread on Ganker.
      The same goes for PoE, there's not enough people left for your game to matter anymore, GGG chased everyone away.


      PoE is also P2W and you have no argument against this

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >blank slate, bloat, too much content

    The state of it. D4 is the perfect game for you.

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the bloat is what makes poe good so i hope they do

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