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Will you be returning to Twin Peaks in four days?
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what game
Twin Peaks: Into the Night
It's a free game so I'm not shilling
Any particular reason you couldn't just say what the game was in your opening post?
Makes my thread seem more mysterious and brooding
Okay, I'm humored.
Was the third season any good? I heard they got David Lynch back on for it.
It's better than most of the second season. It's very Lynch though, not so much Mark Frost, whereas I feel season 1 and most of 2 was more of a 50/50.
what did he mean by this
That's up to you.
She returns to Twin Peaks only to realize it's not the same place us the audience thought it would be. When the actor knocks on the door the real people who live in that house answer. Lynch is basically saying that even if remakes Twin Peaks it won't be what the audience wants it to be. It's empty husk of a house with nothing in it and when the actual character and actor goes back, they realize they're in the real world. She screams, the world begins to reject them because they are movie characters and the FBI agent is asking what year is it.
They are in the real world. They shouldn't be. They have become or are about to become aware that they are in a movie / TV series and before that happens and causes them too much anxiety the movie cuts to black. It ends, because there's nothing left to explore.
The end.
That's such BS lol
Dunno why people love to downplay Mark Frost's work, but his creativity is all over the third season.
Anon it's the best, most haunting television I've ever watched. Don't expect it to be too much like seasons 1 and 2.
Season three is literally the peak of television.
based bobby
I didn't like Bobby in the OG show, he was such a phony jerk.
But season 3 was absolute redemption for him. He might have become my most heart-warming character in the whole season.
Season 2 is still watchable overall.
Even if there clearly are some stinkers, particularly everything about the bikerbitchboy.
It's just a few episodes and if you really loved the first season, there is no reason to not watch the second.
I'm really not understanding how what I said wasn't clear. I said I didn't finish it, not that I never watched it
I'll push through
>I said I didn't finish it, not that I never watched it
I'm really not understanding how what I said wasn't clear. I told you there is no reason to not watch it. All.
>some absolutely incredible scenes
The bluest TV scene of all time.
>All.
you did not say that
I said "there is no reason to not watch the second."
What else could it possibly mean?
Now stop being such a little brat and annoying on purpose.
Good night.
don't play semantics with me. you know what you said. dishonest weasel. looking forward to your reply.
stuff like this and the whole bit with the lady's head being chopped off and stapled to Major Brigg's body feels like an entirely different show and The Return just occasionally crosses over with it like a cameo but we never see the other show that it's crossing over with. what the hell is this lady talking about? why is the girl sick? why did a midget stab some lady in Las Vegas for no reason? why was the methhead lady saying 911 backwards? shit like that.
HAS ANYONE SEEN BILLY?
Most of those establish the nightmare like turn the dream world of Twin Peaks has taken. The lodge influence is everywhere and garmabozia (Pain and Suffering) flows freely through the streets. The midget stabs the lady in Las Vegas to establish he's a hitman.
>the nightmare like turn the dream world of Twin Peaks has taken.
This is why I like fire walk with me so much, and it makes it kind of hard to watch twin peaks. The town was always a nightmare shithole with terrible things happening right under the surface. From evil greedy business man trying to screw over the town to make a buck, to the cycle of sexual abuse in the palmer household.
Everyone was a party to just how fricked laura palmer was, and any one of the could have thrown the brakes on the train wreck about to happen. The darkness of the world had already infected the town of twin peaks. The cherry pie, coffee, and bookhouse boys hijinks were all just a coping mechanism, this escapist fantasy to ignore the reality of their quirky mountain town.
Its the blue velvet scene, worms, bugs, and rot hiding just under the surface of utopia.
>Everyone was a party to just how fricked laura palmer was
Lynch revealed his hand right from the start
Always fun having scenes like this early on in a show, makes you wonder how much was truly planned from the get go or what was made up on the spot.
Seeing Bobby become a cop was nice.
Oh its all there in the first and second season. But FWWM puts it front and center. Its letting you ride shotgun for the final week of laura's life without a filter. You know whats coming, but there's no looking away and there's no cherry pie and coffee to wrap around yourself.
It also really highlights how cooper fricks up by trying to rescue laura, who at the end of the movie (her death) at last knows peace.
Isn't that kind of the point, that Cooper's arrival was like a ray of sunshine hitting the inside of the gutter? And that the town was so consumed by that darkness or whatever that it devoured Coop.
Also when it took over Coop the whole world just devolved into it instead of just edging on it, which is why everything in S3 is so fricking grim. Except, you know, Dougie's story.
There was some rays of hope thpough like Nadine and Ed's story, and Shelly reconciling with her daughter despite everything
Yeah and Lucy figuring out cellular phones.
Lucy and Andy were the kinds of pure spirits who could go into the chapel perilous of the lodge and not be affected.
Cooper wavered in his faith at the threshold and was splintered.
>what the hell is this lady talking about?
She's sick.
why is the girl sick?
she a zomby n shit.
>why did a midget stab some lady in Las Vegas for no reason?
He was a professional assassin sent to kill her. He was later sent to kill Dougie but his FBI instincts kicked in.
>why was the methhead lady saying 911 backwards?
I don't remember this.
Cooper's evil self not going back into the lodges while his good self is out with him is fricking up the world
I genuinely didn’t understand this scene
society
understanding is second to experiencing. when you were a child, did you understand, or did you experience?
The lady is giving a message to bobby via her feelings
That lady could be one of those spirits. The child definitely is, or similar to Bob and the other beings who are above the gas station. The kid here is vomiting the garmonbozia or food/nutrien (usually looks like corn soup) that has gone bad. The "kid" is sick because it hasn't gotten it in a while. You can see the midget and Bob and others often eat this corn stuff. It's literally misery. They love misery, even if some of them have issues with it they all can enjoy it. It's a methaphor by David Lynch who loves to make movies but hates that they have become entertainment that people sit in front of a TV and eat their garbage fast food. He thinks movies should be art and expression. The whole Twin Peaks series is his way of portraying a mystery that you can't solve while just doing wacky shit and making fun of the typical popcorn movies that are surface level deep at best. He also thinks violence has become too common in movies and this is why his spirit beings in Twin Peaks just want more and more of it. They represent the audience. They have issues with what they enjoy and too little of it makes them sick and they can never get enough.
Welcome to the world of David Lynch. Now wait for someone else to tell me I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm not. I have explanations to everything that happens in Twin Peaks. Mostly.
>lynch thinks violence has become too common in movies
lynch absolutely loves violence and the macabre
he once showed his dad decayed rats he had kept, and his dads response was something along the lines of "david, promise me you won't ever have children". I don't agree with you.
Think you misunderstand. By violence he meant the mind numbing people shooting, fighting and killing people and the audience having no emotion to it at all, because they are used to it.
He portrays violence, grotesque shit and even rape and the like in his movies and ALL OF IT makes you feel shit.
That's what he means.
well I don't disagree with that even if I might not be able to corroborate it
Was the whole story with Tim Roth and Jennifer Jason Leigh a parody of Tarantino's movies? Especially when they get killed.
People are stressed.
>try to google this rat shit
>instead find out that lynch made weird as shit TV ads
I take it
Pretty sure it's from the documentary about Lynch called The Art Life.
>fat lady screeching incoherently at me and constant car horns forever
this scene is what my own private hell is going to look like
it's unbridled kino, go watch it now
It's straight up incredible, one of a fricking kind for sure, nothing like it out there.
it's pure lynch
it's the best thing American cinema has produced in the last 15-20 years
it doesn't get any better anon
*any bluer
If you can accept the insanity, it's great. I know some people wanted a "true" season 3 and were disappointed.
>I know some people wanted a "true" season 3 and were disappointed.
Season 3 actually being a commentary about how you can never go back to how things used to be elevated it way beyond anything a repeat of the first two seasons could have been. Lynch knew people just wanted cherry pie and coffee again and used that to his advantage to make them realize you can't go home again.
>Lynch knew people just wanted cherry pie and coffee again
It had a ton of fanservice as well and even some happy endings. The only disappointing thing was Audrey being barely a character for some reason, not really sure where he was trying to go with her. Maybe he just didn't give a shit.
The execs ruined her story line in S2. Now she lives stranded forever in a nightmare crafted by one of BOB/Mr C's goons. There's an overarching theme of not being able to return to the past.
>"ANYBODY SEEN BILLY?!?"
noticing that the customers in the diner change after the cut was one of the wildest moments i've had viewing a piece of media
shelly noticing and shaking it off was downright chilling
>It had a ton of fanservice as well and even some happy endings.
It did, but the main idea of the whole season was that things change and you can never go back. It was filled with that uniquely middle-aged despair where you're trying to grab at the nostalgia from your youth but then you look around and see the world crumbling and you look in the mirror and see an old man. That's why he baited with Cooper the whole time. It was supposed to be "the Return", but you can't just return home and have it be the same. When Cooper finally shows up at the police station you get the fanservice reunion and then he looks in the camera and tells you that you're dreaming.
>The only disappointing thing was Audrey
With Audrey it kinda felt like he was going with the original plan of her being the one taken into the Black Lodge at the end of S2. She was in some kind of limbo.
With all this, I'm guessing a season 4 ain't ever gonna happen
It's a proper fricking sequel. Like in the entire era of TV show revivals it stands contrary to all of them in that it was made as a sequel and continuation to how TP ended and the movie Fire Walk With Me instead of a cheap remake mislabeled as a sequel. It's kino.
it's incredible but if you want another season of comfy coffee and cherry pie mysteries you're going to be disappointed. It's le epic subversive show that criticizes the very nature of legacy sequels and how our desire for them is a coping mechanism because real life has turned to absolute shit
Twin Peaks has always been about TV and dreams, hence why the original run is a mock soap opera. I don't really think it's subversive although it's certainly a critique of modern television like the original was.
WTF Lynch directed the EVA Rebuilds?
Lynch and Anno hooking up for something moronic like Shin Eraserhead would be the most unwatchable garbage masterpiece of all time.
>being sedated and moronic enough to only see one very small element of a massive piece
you might need to watch another 8 hours worth of explanation videos to really understand the show, bud :0
If you liked the comfyness of S1 and the wholesome small town feel you wont like it.
S3 is all out depressing because lynch is an edgy c**t
>t. got filtered by the Las Vegas segments
get lynched baby
Twin Peaks has always been about the contrast between the brightest and darkest aspects of life, hence the name. Peace and happiness draws evil to it, and evil makes you value the good times more. In the Return, Twin Peaks has become victim to the same decay of America that it lamented in the original seasons. But as a contrast, we find wholesome joy in the most corrupt, disgusting city in the country.
tl;dr: LYNCHED
Dougie needed some getting used to on my part, but by god did he become a force of joy for me later on
I think this was most viewers' response to Dougie. Initial confusion about where the hell Cooper was slowly turning to genuine appreciation of based moron Dougie.
nah it just isn't the same.
Instead of Gordon eating at the diner it would be 3 junkies dealing drugs and shooting up in the WACKY diner thats in the dark lodge or some shit
tbf i liked s3 but s1 is still better
yes but don't go in expecting Twin Peaks Season 3. it's very loosely related. maybe 15-20% of the third season is about the original show, the rest is just David Lynch doing weird shit with some of the rules of Twin Peaks as a vague backdrop. even when characters from the original run show up like Audrey there's no real continuation or closure for their stories, it's just an excuse for Lynch to do some weird shit with those characters/actors that makes no sense. you either love it or hate it.
>he actually missed it
I'm so sorry anon.
forced cinematography
forced bot reply
always did, see the rest of the thread for an answer.
>the best thing about it is coomer trash for my zoomer brain
lmao
>reddit
>le
oh, you're a homosexual. got it
meanwhile the show you posted bored the frick out of me, but I guess zoomers thinking "JUST LIKE ME, SUCH A CHAD XD" would enjoy it
mad men is primetime slop for lonely midwit men
Define good cinematography midwit
Worst episode of the show
It was overwrought
Its kino of the highest order
HELLOOOOOOOOO
Twin Peaks is
>David Lynch and Mark Frost make a meta show about television itself disguised as a murder mystery that is borderline satire of murder mystery tv shows at the time
>Lynch leaves during the 2nd season and the show goes to shit
>He stews on it for 20 years
>Japan really liked this goofy show and it inspired the works of several others in the world of anime and videogames
>3rd season is a big condemnation of modern TV and one big key for explaining the symbolism of the show
It is as much of a twin peaks season 3 as Death Stranding is to Silent Hills.
>ignoring the fact that he came back to S2
>mentioning Japan while completely ignoring the fact that french gays brought the show back
okay then
It’s alright. It’s purposefully tedious a lot of the time, but being purposeful doesn’t make it less tiresome. More interesting than entertaining, but the ending was fantastic and would not have worked as well without the lead up
It is 100% the closest TV will ever get to an accurate depiction of a nightmare. The final scene is still stuck in my head.
Its good, but don't marathon it. Watch one episode a night.
>Don't marathon it
It's what I did, kinda. Worked for me, tho I suppose savoring it has it's appeal too.
It is very good but like everyone else says do not go in expecting a continuation of the original story or you will be very frustrated.
Season 3 is basically an original story using twin peaks as the background. And Dale is not Dale for 90 percent of it.
no(yes(no))
HEEEELLLOOOOOO
/tpg/ was one of the best things to ever happen in this website, and the show was pretty good also I guess
It's some of the best TV I've ever watched and will probably ever watch.
more like its a way to get around word filters. sa-gay
>Makes my thread seem more mysterious and brooding
Very lynchian OP.
finally an honest OP
>Any particular reason you couldn't just say what the game was in your opening post?
it's Gankerradition not to give it away too early.
because you're an idiot
He basically did, you're just moronic, anon.
me when i
me when is moke weed on 4/20!!!
any particular reason you cant google "Twin peaks game" but you can type 3 times that many words and do a captcha
Now imagine how these "people" will absolutely destroy society as a whole once they grow up
Because I didn't need to, having already known it was related to Twin Peaks. Hint: I'm not
Looks dope, will try it out.
>Free
The demo is free you lying homosexual.
I don't see how they could accept money for the full game since they don't own the IP
Forgot pic
The entire game has to be free or they will get their ass sued off by ABC and David Lynch. As well as all of the actors whose faces they use in-game.
Is it just a retelling of the series because at that point I'd rather just rewatch the show
>twin peaks
>ps1 graphics
it's kino time
You Will Never Find Who Judy Is.
??? We know who Judy is she's the big lady spitting out evil that men do and starting fires everywhere. She is the pale horse, the Whites of their Eyes and the dark inside. There's like 3 exposition dumps about her
Anon, I..
haha its like that popular good thing but in a shittier form
mr jackpots
HellooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
moron coop is best coop argue me
doge jons :-DDDD
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
"HELLLOOOOOooooo-OOOOOO!"
HELLLOOOOOooooo-OOOOOO!
HELLLOOOOOooooo-OOOOOO!
HELLLOOOOOooooo-OOOOOO!
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"HELLLOOOOOooooo-OOOOOO!"
im cia
crazy how old everyone is in s3
im gonna be dead soon
they were in their 20/30's when they did the first two seasons
the third season is 20 something years later
god the third season was 6 years ago
frick
>god the third season was 6 years ago
Wtf I've been Lynched by time itself
>the third season was 6 years ago
>the third season is 20 something years later
it's 25 years later, just like laura said in the end of s2
Hawk
I'm dying
>Literally dies shortly after filming these scenes
fricked up
I wonder what it was like for her as an actress acknowledging her approaching mortality like that
Honestly? I don't wanna imagine it. Dealing with your own mortality is the biggest hurdle any human has to deal with in their life, doing that for a TV show must be one of the biggest acts of your career.
holy shit I didn't know they got david bowie for this
He was a huge fan of the show and asked to be on it.
AYUDAMANE
We're not gonna talk about Judy.
facing your own mortality is terrifying but for some, peaceful, to know no more pain, no more stress, worries.
can't say what she felt at the time, but it's sad, regardless.
Only if she was a moron or pretended really hard but death is no escape.
going from the 90s series to the 2017 one was a gut punch in terms of seeing the actors age
Lended a melancholic air to the whole season
a good number of the people in S3 of twin peaks are dead. Lob Lady died something like 3 days after her last scene was shot
essential david lynch films? only ever watched twin peaks
planning to watch:
>eraserhead
>blue velvet
>lost highway
Add Inland Empire and Mulholland Drive
There's also Elephant Man which is his most normal film but still very good and his version of Dune that was fricked up by production but it might be fun to compare it to the latest adaptation
Lost Highway is my fave. But start with Blue Velvet for sure. The only one of his movies not really worth watching unless you're curious is The Straight Story. But then again, some people swear by that movie.
The Straight Story is great.
Mulholland Drive is peak Lynch
Also Fire Walk with Me if you want to watch basically Twin Peaks prequel but it's a movie with David Bowie.
Blue velvet is so overrated.
moron
braindead take
lost highway sucked ass
lynch said it's about O.J. Simpson lmao
lost 2 hour on that shit, at least baltazar getty was hot
Wait so what's the point of it? If I remember correctly Twin Peaks was meta-commentary on television shows and films, what's the catch with turning it into a game? Gonna have veiled commentary about how AAA corps and LGBTBBQ pushers are ruining it?
>commentary about AAA
maybe
>About LGBTBBQ
LOL NO LMAO
Either this will be a 1:1 copy of the show with pixel shit "HUR DUR PS1 GRAPHICS LOL", or some extremely stupid liberal commentary shit
didn't he pass away as well?
>Hear about "The Straight Story" being a thing, never mentioned anywhere else
>Surprised it's from 99
>main actor died days/weeks after the film got done
What is it with Lynch art and death?
Who didn't pass away at this point? And yes, I think so.
His scenes were extremely cut down in the movie, but short either way.
>Who didn't pass away at this point? And yes, I think so.
frick
GOT A LIGHT?
Hes not fricking dead he just wasn't in S3 because he accussed Lynch of raping his daughter.
Not even joking
what seriously lmao
a lot of that episode was eye candy
imagine watching it on shrooms or something
>If I remember correctly Twin Peaks was meta-commentary on television shows and films
Lol no that was one video essayist's theory with his four hour long TWIN PEAKS SOLVED video
it did make sense for most things
people who try to compartmentalize great art are pathetic fricking bozos
Calm down David
>we'll never get to see that 13 hour Lynch series that he was supposed to start working on for Netflix because of fricking coronavirus
Epic.
China ruins yet ANOTHER thing
can any big brain explain me the finale of season 3?
Cooper dun goofed
The dreamer was awakened. Laura's scream of revelation ends the nightmare. Two birds, one stone. Non-existence. Etc.
it's like a greek tragedy, like when oedipus realizes he fricked his mom, but surrealist
Cooper is managing in a reality being shaped against him by the villain. Laura, the key to undoing the villain, has to stay in the dark. And it looks hopeless until something hits Laura all at once and she comes to realization. In response, the reality that was being shaped vanishes and its left as a cliffhanger what happens next.
everyone answering this post is wrong, no one knows what happened other than Cooper ended up in a place he didn't expect to end up at.
wrong reality
Sounds like season 3 is real good. I always hesitated watching it assuming I would one day go back and watch season 1 and 2 before it but that day still hasn't come.
Is it better if you have season 1 and 2 fresh in your mind?
It references the old stuff quite a bit, so it's preferred watching if you ask me.
>Is it better if you have season 1 and 2 fresh in your mind?
Yes, and watch Fire Walk With Me too.
Better yet if you have FWWM fresh in your mind, tonally S3 has far more in common with that than the original series
This. The movie is a MANDATORY watch to understand S3, especially the last few episodes.
>Is it better if you have season 1 and 2 fresh in your mind?
Kinda. Especially 2 just because you can tell how pissed he still is about it during season 3.
Also watching the actors going from young to old adds to season 3 atmosphere and theme imo but ymmv.
it's good, but don't take the replies too seriously, they're overeating the FRICK out of it, and if there's anything I've learned, it's that letting yourself have high expectations is rarely ever good.
>log lady died
>albert died
>tom sizemore died
>david bowie died
>dr hayward died
>norma died
>Jacques Renault died
>robert forster died
🙁
Honestly feels very symbolic and the way it should be for TP, some of those deaths inspired Lynch to do real cool things with the characters.
season 3 was mixed, lynch should have retired years ago
you taste is shit
you should probably stop sharing those opinions
sorry but yeah it felt like a cheap tv show at times and lynch went full moron with the writing
The fact that mulder came back for this shit is still mind blowing to me. Seeing his ass in S1 for the first time surprised the frick out of me, seeing him come back was something else.
It's a shame we didn't get to see Annie.
>yfw Season 3 Part 8
>Entire season is pretty cheap but you can see that they make the most of their cobbled together budget
>That fricking nuke scene is so incredibly long and stupidly realistic and well made
Fricking insane episode, blows the mind and nerves.
Oh god I think I remember now, someone posted that in a TP thread months ago. Insane little shitter
>full of demonic vomiting children
>he accussed Lynch of raping his daughter.
lmao what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Anderson
Spoonfed
>schizophrenic person says thing
dang must be true. speaking the truth just like terry richardson and isaac kappy; thank god these people are making sure the truth gets out there
I see you're just as under Lynch's spell as his daughter is...
so gullible
nta but it's true, the midge went full schizo.
I don't want to believe it
but his daughter wrote the diary of laura palmer and it is a very eerie read
>the apple doesn't fall far from the schizo tree
Literally no one else has ever corroborated it and Lynch is a pretty well known figure who Lucas tried to get to direct one of the prequels IIRC. None of it really adds up.
It was RotJ I think, he apparently declined the job and convinced Lucas to direct it himself.
It's not too surprising considering this was off of the back The Elephant Man which had relatively mass appeal and Lynch did Dune shortly afterward too
Yeah it was RotJ.
>bobby's dad foresaw a wonderful life for his son
>bobby's life consisted of him getting cucked and living in a bizarro town full of demonic vomiting children
His fate could've been far worse, he ended up as a relatively upstanding member of the sheriff department, considering his youth spent as a delinquent and the fact that the rest of TP has decayed horribly
I wonder if bobby murdering the deputy of dear meadow ever came up again in-universe.
What a scene, what a simple yet extremely effective story.
This was the scene that slammed the breaks on my opinion of Bobby and completely turned it around
I'm a huge twin peaks fan and I'm one of the few people I've ever seen post the ehlers-danlos cat. I think I gave you that image, and now you give that image back to everyone else. We are connected, you and me, friend.
Billy sounds like the name of another of those powerful entities
So you have come this far and still you understand nothing?
But Billy Zane's character in Twin Peaks was called John Justice.
Every light must fade
I've softened and forgiven almost everything that I didn't like about S3 when it aired except for the green glove. I will never like that part of the ending.
literally me
how much will I be missing in season 3 if I never finished season 2
a lot, even more so if you never saw the movie.
Also: why the frick watch s3 if you can't even finish 2?
gee I dunno maybe because the directors left the project midway through the season and it stopped being good, whereas s3 has one of the directors return?
S2 is still good tho?
yeah it was good until the laura palmer mystery was solved and then it was just boring and stupid so I stopped.
it always humors me how people like you are always going on about people forming their own opinion and then throwing a tantrum when the opinion they form on their own doesn't align with yours. I saw a clear drop in quality and it lost my interest so I stopped.
grow up.
FYI, Lynch returns for the final episode of S2, which is incidentally the best episode of the first two seasons. If you watch S3 at least make sure you watch S2, it's a hard sequel to the events in it and the movie Fire Walk with Me.
just see it through dude, yes there is a dip in quality but its worth it for the last couple episodes + season 3. Just put it on in the background while you do something else if it's that tedious.
if you're not gonna watch the entirety of a piece, you might as well not watch any of it unless you're a developmentally stunted bot who fast forwards to the famous scenes in movies like a 12 year old
season 2's plight is an essential element of the overall piece. if you skip it, you arent watching twin peaks
>if you're not gonna watch the entirety of a piece, you might as well not watch any of it
That's silly and you know it. You think everyone who stopped watching the Simpsons years ago like anyone with a brain would should never have started watching it in the first place?
>Comparing a three season show to a literal fricking sitcom that goes on for as long as the money keeps coming in
at least try to make a comparison that isn't stupid as hell and overblown
Godfather trilogy
>first one is great
>2nd is one great
>third one is so-so with some questionable story points
your point?
Agree to disagree.
so you dislike 1 and 2? why?
cool, you said a thing that does nothing to further your argument or disprove mine.
True Detective season 2, Xenosaga 2, Shrek 3, Yakuza 6, Samurai Jack season 5
>no none of those count
Why?
im not gonna dedicate time to dismantling your autistic delusions
you have a fundamental lack of understanding in regards to the arts, but it's not your fault. your generation is a mess
That sounds a lot like "I'm running away from the argument because I've got no actual reply."
>zoomer makes a list or demands a list of your favorite things
>believes it's made an argument
>I don't agree with that example
>okay well here's some other examples
>NO WAIT NOT AN ARGUMENT NOOOOOO
Gamefaqs might be more your speed.
You know the rules, wienerbreath.
true detective s1 was only good because of fukunaga's direction; the showrunner, pissolatto, was a hack
the rest of the shit you posted only serves to prove you're autistic or a child
>the rest of the shit you posted only serves to prove you're autistic or a child
Why? I'm still waiting on an argument.
Maybe learn to follow a comment chain?
you're genuine, delusional morons. no amount of explaining why the zoomer npc's penchant for lists is a symptom of their soulless, developmentally stunted existences and not a functional form of argumentative discourse, or the fact that comparing directionless mega-franchises that exist primarily to make money (samurai jack has some integrity, but lacks any long-term focus or goal to be worth analyzing as a whole piece) to a focused piece by a singular artist will matter
Not once in this conversation did you ever participate in anything that could possibly be misconstrued as "argumentative discourse." I disagreed with the notion that one should just not engage in any series at all if they end up dropping a part of it because they didn't like it, and provided examples. YOU have done nothing but say those examples don't count.
Disingenous child. Let's see your next excuse not to participate.
your brain works like someone who collects funko pop figures
you're not reading my replies, schizo gay
we're talking about skipping around in a series though. People might skip godfather 3, but nobody's skipping godfather 2 to watch 3. I don't care if people lose interest in something before it ends and lots of shows continue well past their prime, but skipping whole portions of a series to get to better parts I think is the contention.
you're lost if you're trying to compare the simpsons to twin peaks
might as well compare the entire MCU to the lord of the rings
stop being another one of the npcs that make up half your generation and power through.
it's like you zoomies are willfully being soulless, miserable cretins
>zoomies are willfully being soulless, miserable cretins
Got a feeling that they simply don't know any better, the easy access to absolutely brain dead internet content does not help their case.
Granted, this is not a excuse for not bettering yourself, but it makes sense and explains some things.
Lynch returns for the finale of S2 and makes it all worth it. And it's necessary for understanding Fire Walk With Me and S3.
watch him ask "well, which are those, the last 2 episodes or what? I don't feel like going through the other dog shit :)"
how'd that work out for ya, dummy?
very well, homosexual zoomer Black person troony
I said I'd finish it, you can stop being a fricking baby now
is this from S3? I know I've seen it before but I'm old and losing it. Feels like a dream....
It's from S2
It's from S2, it's the horn brother's flashback to their youth
Reminder that Bob Iger the moron from Disney was the reason for them rushing to spoil who was the murderer
That was all Frost's story also, it wasn't just Lynch returning.
A lot.
Just finish S2. It's worth pushing through the filler since the finale is kino and sets up a major plot point for S3
A lot. You should also watch Fire Walk with Me after you watch season 2.
You haven't even watched the entire show but feel like you can write off the second season because Lynch left for most of it? How many of Lynch's movies have you even watched before Twin Peaks? You need to learn to form your own opinions, anon.
Confederate Ben was a kino subplot and you can't convince me otherwise
David Lynch fans have to be among the biggest wienersucking fanboys on the planet.
the issue is that vast majority of the people on Ganker who criticize the work are fricking morons. there is legitimate criticism you can throw at lynch, but you bugs are like toddlers fixating on the most superficial elements, while clearly not understanding any of what you're seeing, and acting like your soccer mom opinions have worth
>legitimate criticism
such as?
he can be a bit too self indulgent when off the leash. him and laura dern are really good buddies, and he kinda lets her do her own thing in part 3. in the case of laura dern, who is not a great actor, i felt it came off as corny in a manner separate from lynch-brand controlled cheese sometimes.
>Each S3 episode is around an hour in length
>Lynch stretches the frick out of every mundane scene
At first it was weird as shit, but he also manages to get some absolutely incredible scenes out of the whole thing
This one especially really shows you what the season is partly about https://files.catbox.moe/4s2bsp.mp4
Also this golden scene https://files.catbox.moe/izr4a4.mp4
I'm glad Hawk got more time to shine in S3
Is it about the bunny?
Him being the (seemingly) only sane person in the department added a lot too.
I never understood people skipping parts of something like this, just seems so weird to me.
What's the wordplay? I don't get it.
>She owns a turnip farm
>Her daughter will turn up eventually
Ah, now I see it.
Honestly all of Dougie's scenes were gold in that respect. There was something very zen about his character and the way he purely lives in the moment, unrushed by almost everything else going on in TP's world.
For me it was his wife that sold me Dougie
I really can't blame zoomers for not being able to sit through twin peaks
I love it but cmon guys
Would you like some pie?
Cherry, please
S3 was trash. People praise it as being some sort of subversive art, when it was really just Lynch being a child. He could have proven that he could make a better legacy show, but instead just made a shit legacy show to complain about shit legacy shows.
It's not a legacy show it's a sequel.
>why would you not finish something that you stopped enjoying
are we really fricking having this argument? might as well pull out the "if you didn't enjoy it why did you finish it" one from the youtube comments as well
He doesn't actually believe that, he's just angry you didn't finish it.
Oh shit Black folk. Ganker likes TP? What about the rest of Lynch's work?
Ganker likes to suck Lynch off, doesn't matter which work
On principle, I don't play demos.
What's the point of playing a game based on material from the poor man's Stephen King?
Bruh... Stephen King is a poor man's Stephen King. He always needs somebody to elevate his material.
see pic related. if it's so bad, I wonder how it managed to influence artists and change tv forever
stephen king is a coked up paedo hack
Twin Peaks was never good.
Thes best thing about it are young Shwrilyn Fenn and the outfits of the girls of One Eyed Jack
I know nothing about twin peaks but I emjoyed deadly premonition and I heard it was inspired by it, would you recommend?
yeh
It one of the few TV shows I would genuinely deem as essential viewing
Shill me on Twin Peaks.
I could never get into David Lynch films. Tried Mulholland Drive and thought it was the most boring ""durr this reddit tier randumness is actually, le DEEP" garbage
It's surreal occultkino that shifts between comedy and horror.
first season is comfy and the two main characters are fun to watch, season 2 stars going downhill and 3 is the most reddit tier randum shit lynch ever made
S3 isn't fricking random though. His movies are pretty straightforward in their themes and narrative. The whole "random" criticism is the giveaway that somebody has been filtered and feels angry about it. Like Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway makes perfect sense when you step back and actually look/think about it.
zoomers aren't active viewers. they think trash like talk to me and everything everywhere all at once are seminal masterpieces
explain Mullholland Drive in a small paragraph as quickly as you can without googling it.
Woman is coping with the fact that she never made it in Hollywood and that she tried to murder somebody. The narrative is just her psyche making an elaborate situation where she can dream and be happy. It starts breaking apart as reality starts seeping in.
>Woman is coping with the fact that she never made it in Hollywood and that she tried to murder somebody
yeah im sure turning david bowie into a kettle had a lot of meaning
Bowie died way before production started but Lynch wanted to give him a send off so he's now an immutable part of the world beyond.
I mean it was either that or turn him into a floating jpeg like Briggs
Why do you think the Major is still in, even tho he died before S3? All of it was to give them a nice little send off, or as a last reminder or whatever.
It feels weird as shit, but in the end all of it has one meaning or another, even if some might be VERY different depending on who you ask.
you are such a homosexual, explain lost highway then, you wienersucker
Lost Highway is similar to Mulholland Drive, but from a man's perspective. A couple is going through a shift in their relationship and separation seems imminent. The protagonist is insecure, jealous, and is harboring dark thoughts. He actually murders his wife and makes a run for it, only to be caught and sent to jail. He's on death row about to be executed and then dreams up an alternate reality where he's a younger man saving his wife.
you're full of shit, that makes no fricking sense with the movie. you know why? because the movie makes no fricking sense in the first place and no amount of copium will ever change this. the movie is a fever dream with no logic or coherence and some nice music pieces here and there, that's fricking it.
Yes is does lmao. Why do you think he starts burning up and screaming when he's in the car on the highway driving away from the police? Was it just le random? Or was he in the fricking electric chair? It's a straightforward story told in an abstract way, that's it. A man murdered his wife and got caught.
NTA. thanks for these edits, loving every single one
that scene could be just another transformation into another man. nothing makes sense, there is no reality in this movie. even the cops react to both men, so they would have to exist. lynch only made this movie to shoot as many sex scenes with arquette as humanly possible, it's just an excuse to make a soft core porn movie with some interesting scenes sprinkled in. I WISH the movie you describe would actually be real lmao. that is the biggest joke in this all. I would love if the movie would have made sense at least a bit and tell an actual story.
We're watching the subconscious of a condemned man in motion. His inner thoughts are interrupting by the crushing reality of the situation. In his last, dying moment he thinks about escaping. There is a consistency and logic to what the audience is witnessing.
>There is a consistency and logic to what the audience is witnessing
so tell me which devise or technique he uses to make clear to the audience which scene is real and which isn't? you simply can't. the mystery men for example makes no sense either. what is he a symbol for? why does he kill the mafia guy? why can he even do that if he isn't real?
Have you ever watched something like 8½ or Brazil? They do similar things with their narrative and short of having a indicator blink on screen when something is real or a dream, it's up to the viewer. Everything involving his wife after the beginning and first sex scene feels like the dream/nightmare. Lost Highway has a core holding it together though and it's the night before the crime, the murder, the police investigation, the chase, and finally being caught and executed. The mystery man could be his guilty conscience or insecurities hounding him, like a demonic voice in the back of his mind ruining the fantasies he finds himself in. Funny enough, the actor who plays him was involved in a controversy over the mysterious death of his wife.
the police men confirm the existence of pete though, so what about that?
>Funny enough, the actor who plays him was involved in a controversy over the mysterious death of his wife.
lmao
Do they? I honestly don't remember. I felt that Pete might have been actual person in his life that he just projected himself onto. He wanted to be somebody, anybody other than a pathetic man about to die, so maybe he just chose the neighborhood kid or their mechanic. Again, I'm pretty certain the majority of the movie is just wish fulfillment contrasted by the inner thoughts of his mind and reality. Well say all the shit you want about David Lynch, but he got me to have a decent conversation about his movie with a stranger. Shit barely happens even on Ganker. I'd just say try to go into his movies with more of an open mind and with the notion that he likes to dabble in dreams fighting reality.
>David Lynch, but he got me to have a decent conversation about his movie with a stranger
that is truly the best thing, and as negative as my statements seem, I love that his movies brings people together in sharing their interpretations. I would never argue against that.
one thing which is important too I think is that fred is a bad musician while pete has a flawless hearing. they really mirror each other but at the end they still both destroy their lives for the same type of woman.
>It's not some primer to the linear plot, instead its the central origin of the composition itself.
that's actually a nice way of putting it. still don't you think over 2 hours and countless sex scenes were too much for that movie? be honest
>one thing which is important too I think is that fred is a bad musician while pete has a flawless hearing. they really mirror each other but at the end they still both destroy their lives for the same type of woman.
Not gonna lie, I never picked up on the musician angle. Makes total sense. But yes I'd agree with all that. I'd recommend watching The Straight Story if you haven't already. Extremely underrated and hardly ever gets brought up in Lynch related threads. Would be interesting to see more discussion about it, because as much as i love the whole dream stuff, I'd still like Dune or Elephant Man stuff thrown in there every now and again.
gonna put in on my watchlist, who would ever have thought discussing movies on Ganker would be this good, see ya in the next one pal.
If we're talking about Lost Highway, I first watched that movie on HBO when i was like 14 because I heard there were breasts in it. I watched the entire movie and was absolutely fricking baffled as to what the frick was actually happening. But it stuck with me, in my head I'd always replay the scene where Baretta makes Lonestar call him on the phone while he's standing next to him.
As the years passed and I got a little older and mature I decided I'd try to watch the movie again, and see if it struck me any differently, only to be just as fricking confused. As I got a little older and started paying attention to directors, and seeing movies as things deeper than genre-schlock and I saw a few more lynch movies I was ready to give it another shot and it was sort of like watching it in a new light. And then I realized its my least favorite lynch movie, but that might just be because for the longest time the movie was this frustrating impenetrable enigma to me and boggling at it, and those weird fricking scenes popping up in my head from time to time put it on a pedestal.
If you want a straight forward no bullshit david lynch movie watch Straight Story. If you read the synopsis you're going to say "no fricking way" but its a 11/10 film that will make you feel feelings.
I will watch his other films and that one the moment I have the chance to. I've watched lost highway the first time and I've watched lots of arthouse movies, loving lots of them and hating others. I wouldn't say lost highway sucks or is just bad, but it's my least favorite of his movies for sure. I watched mulholland, eraserhead and elephant man (but I watched them all ages ago and would have to watch them again as an adult now) and they are all way better than this. I just don't get the praise for it I guess. but to each their own.
i would watch a cut of the movie that had all the sex scenes cut out or greatly reduced. just gratuitous and annoying, i guess he felt like he had to one up the sexual content in Blue Velvet or something?
yeah, it was just too fricking much. funnily enough one interpretation I could really see in this movie is that all women are prostitutes and will frick everything on sight lmao
would he be wrong?
Probably because Lynch has made it pretty clear that he admires women as more than sexual objects, so it wouldn't really jive with that.
most women are, but not all. and it's a really lame and stereotypical female character who uses "monroe speak" (barely talking at all, just whispering all the time in a children's voice).
I usually have the same feeling about the majority of sex in movies, but I think it's actually required in Lost Highway. Pullman's character is insecure and obsessed with the woman. He puts her on a pedestal and the sex scenes reflect that. Then again, the sex in Mulholland Drive felt a bit dragged on, but good God that's straight lesbian kino
>He puts her on a pedestal and the sex scenes reflect that
yeah, like she getting blacked and acting scared before it and then revealing she loves dicks in every of her orifices. I get the first sex scenes, pullman being impotent and getty being good in bed but that would have sufficed. all the other stuff like her fricking the old guy was really disgusting.
>all the other stuff like her fricking the old guy was really disgusting
I think thats the intention. He puts her on a pedestal, but also allows his jealousy to twist her into a prostitute and a conniving b***h. If the movie is a glimpse into his mind, we're going to see both depictions play out and conflict with each other. Remember that he imagines himself saving her from other men.
The thing you need to keep in mind when watching or trying to interpret a lynch movie is that he is one of the directors that really understands film-as-dream.
The idea that film is maybe the one medium perfect for recreating dream. Our dreams usually have a run time between 15 and 45 minutes (depending on where you are in the sleep cycle), they are not bound to a linear narrative, can use editing, special effects, time compression, and audio visual metaphor dredged up from the subconscious. Things you can understand that you might not be able to explain.
There is usually a plot, themes, and a through line, but they're not necessarily important in the moment-to-moment/scene-to-scene.
Lynch also has a weird sense of humor, and he enjoys fricking with the audience.
okay, now we're talking, because what you wrote in your post is true and I can fully agree on. it's okay if his movies are dreamy I have nothing against that, but he himself talks about his movies having a clear meaning on the one hand and on the other hand him always disagreeing with every interpretion people come up with. if he would say "take away from my movies what you personally see in them" (like in true art) I would applaud it. for me the movie was about jelousy and the ways it changes the whole character or even being of a person and the spectrum of jelousy. fred was the jelous type who wants to be right in the end and kills all people involved to get his ego back, pete was jelous too, but in the end all the sex tapes he saw and which hurt and disgusted him didn't change his desire for her, at the contrary he never wanted her more. both types are unhealthy and lead to destruction. funnily enough the one character with a healthy jelousy was the gf of pete who threw a fit but then just walked away and ended the relationship as every sane human would.
>but he himself talks about his movies having a clear meaning
Lynch is a master troll, some of that is messing with the audience and their expectations of what is supposed to happen, but in ways where you have a hard time putting your finger on.
He also means something very specific and personal when he talks about meaning. It's not some primer to the linear plot, instead its the central origin of the composition itself. He talks about the eye of the duck in an interview, but it was about him looking at a painting of the duck, and the color, brush strokes, composition itself all kind of focused in on this duck's eye. Its a compositional focus.
He never says explicitly what he was thinking because it doesn't matter, its a cinematic where's waldo, its there if you want to find it, or you can just appreciate the whole madness surrounding waldo.
nta but he described Lost Highway succinctly and correctly, you are just moronic
The Return does not have a coherent narrative
If you can't follow the events surrounding the main characters of S3 from start to finish you may be genuinely moronic
yes it does. shake off that capeshit malaise and pay closer attention to things
>cosmic forces in the universe are in conflict
>humans attempt to make sense of it or at the very least save themselves
There's your narrative. It's a battle between good and evil over a girl's soul. The rest is Cooper being born again and experiencing the best and worst life has to offer. He's punished for thinking he can go beyond that though.
It's pretty coherently about corruption and the past being something you can never return to. The last scene of Coop and Laura almost explicitly spells that out.
the final episode doesn't make sense, it's just a bunch of weird things happening with no explanation, on purpose. that's not a bad thing but it's the truth. no one can explain the final scene because there is no way to explain it, because The Return does not have a coherent narrative. Lynch just wanted to end on that scene because he saw it in a dream or it just looked cool and worked backwards from that.
Coop has slipped into what he believes is an alternate universe where Laura wasn't murdered and tries to work their way back to where it all started only to realize that nothing is fixed at all. His confusion about what year it is and Laura immediately reliving her trauma is just Lynch showing you that there's no magic cure to fixing the past. Coop couldn't change what happened. It's a depressing ending but it's pretty clear.
that's just your subjective interpretation though, there's nothing in the show that actually states that's what's really happening.
i agree, the entire point is that a lot of it doesn't make sense and isn't explained like a traditional television show to encourage discussion and interpretation. i think that's fine. it's just gay to pretend that it has a "plot" like the Sopranos or Breaking Bad or some other cableslop and there's a definitive answer to everything when there isn't.
Literally filtered. It's not difficult at all to understand but the fact that someone doesn't come out on the screen and explain it to you means you can't fricking think for two seconds.
no you're the one that's filtered because you're moronic enough to think it has one answer and it just happens to be your interpretation, wow aren't you such a unique special snowflake! have a nice day
>it's just gay to pretend that it has a "plot" like the Sopranos or Breaking Bad
It does, though? There's a very obvious and concrete sequence of events from beginning to end.
Just because some of it isn't concrete doesn't mean it's all interpretive nonsense.
but there is a lot of interpretive nonsense but morons believe that stuff is as concrete as something in any other show. the ending is the perfect example, stupid homosexuals pretend like they have "the" explanation for it when there is no one single explanation for it because The Return does not have a 100% A-Z coherent narrative, on purpose.
>it's just gay to pretend that it has a "plot" like the Sopranos or Breaking Bad or some other cableslop
But it literally does, and the plot isn't even hard to follow. If you want to talk about the deeper symbolism and the shit going on in the background that's another thing, but the actual core plot of the show is really nothing confusing at all.
That's pretty much what I got out of it, even with my moronic ass brain. End of the day the base idea is really fricking simple, even when it's portrayed in a weird fashion.
>Lynch just wanted to end on that scene because he saw it in a dream or it just looked cool and worked backwards from that.
yes and there's nothing wrong with that
for the record, i'm not the anon saying twin peaks has a clear, logical narrative. I'm saying that doesn't matter.
this is like people getting butthurt when you tell them Evangelion isn't actually about the giant robots.
No, you are just dumb.
filtered
Filtered by how dumb you are?
see
sorry about your main character syndrome
people today don't understand symbolism, they don't want to dissect themes or visual language, they just want a logical, consistent narrative that can be understood from a purely factual point of view, anything else may as well be nonsense. it's not just media btw. we have the same conniption when it comes to religion & spirituality.
>people today don't understand symbolism
Watch out, he might call you a "pretentious homosexual" or something, for being able to think outside of the box, and being able to have a basic train of thought.
see i was right
>gets blown the frick out by multiple people
>HUR DUR LOOK IF I WAS RIGHT
clearly you're not dipshit
btfo by who? it's a tv show not a science textbook, the narrative doesn't need to be bullet proof and without loose ends. it's a visual-audio narrative, the thematic and symbolic storytelling is of equal if not greater value to the mere narrative. you have a child's understanding of stories.
Its what happens when you have decade of Marvel-tier "tell don't show" writing. Makes it difficult for zoomies to understand visual storytelling.
right? I feel like people just want stories that could be listed out as memorizable bullet points of facts, not something that makes them think or feel
Symbolism is midwit tier writing, anyone could do it
You can cobble together a meaning to everything
Symbolize a dick in your mouth. You have no idea what you're talking about. Symbolism is a critical part of writing and has been for centuries. Great artists are able to use symbolism to illustrate their themes in abstract and thought provoking ways. Name your favorite authors
biggest troonydickBlack person suckers on Ganker
>anyone could do it
Anyone can make up some bullshit and call it symbolism.
It takes a far defter hand to actually craft meaningful symbolism.
An easy way to figure out if it's good symbolism is whether or not you noticed it the first time.
it's always been a minority that strive to cultivate a deeper understanding of life. the difference now is that any moron with thumbs can aggressively post their opinions in a public forum, while in the past it was harder to get online, whether due to financial barriers or less cultural awareness of the tools to do so.
Season two is mid because Lynch & Frost left the show completely after the main story ended. They only came back for the last episode which is one of the greatest single tv show episode of all time.
the point is that you're presented with strong, thought provoking images and can walk away with your own interpretation of them. the weird stuff isn't there just to be weird, it's there to make you think rather than having the director tell you what something "means". the way you feel about the things you're presented with is the point, you're part of the media now, it's interactive in that way. and other people saw those same images and walked away with their own impression of them. basically what "art" is supposed to be before talentless hipster morons and money launderers hijacked the term.
it also does have a captivating mystery behind everything, there's real policework that intersects with weird mysticism which is something you can't find anywhere else.
Remember when Directors knew about "show, don't tell"? Now days it feels like directors or audiences have become too fricking stupid for that to work, so they explain everything instantly, leaving out any kind of mystery or fun thoughts you could have.
That and the whole "XYZ EXPLAINED" garbage on YT
Lynch's insanity is tempered by Mark Frost's more traditional television writing and what you get is not only extremely ahead of its time (feeling not unlike the modern TV dramas we've come to expect as normal) but also extremely unique.
Twin Peaks is a crime drama, a mystery thriller, a horror movie, a surrealist comedy, and a slice-of-life anime all in one.
The pilot episode is movie-length and that alone should honestly be enough to tell you whether or not you'll like the show.
So just go give it a shot.
>watches movie
>starts thinking about reddit
You're skullfricked. Do your parents a favor and end yourself.
getting ready to watch a 5 hour YouTube analysis because season 3 made zero sense to me
Don't bother, it's moronic and could've been said in 5 minutes.
the Twin Perfect one is pretty good. he's not right but i like his take on everything. he has really interesting analysis on things but on a personal level he's an obnoxious dweeb.
check /t/ there's a TV show thread, there are probably links there or in one of the archived threads
I've been watching Twin Peaks for the very first time with a group in Discord the last couple months.
We're currently at S3E11 or so, and it already became one of my favorite things ever partway through S2
This game's coming out at the perfect time for me
worst show ive ever seen in my entire life. 100% contrarion and only for people who have no idea what quality is or how to tell a story.
>100% contrarion
glad you're describing yourself instantly there
I love Lynch, but a lot of stuff in his movies is just shit he made up because he saw it in his dreams. So yes, if you believe dreams have meaning, everything he does has a meaning behind it.
>low poly indie game thats a tribute to a property the dev loves
twin peaks this, eraserhead that. what about lynch's real magnum opus?
LUDO KINO
I love Dumbland. I went to a screening of Lynch's short films once and they played all the Dumbland episodes at the end as a bonus. Best part of the show.
This is making me realize that pre-YouTube Internet content was a very Lynchian environment
>mfw the edgy era of tf2 gmod videos
>early painis cupcake vs the later shit that was pure horror/thriller shit with tons of gore
Magnet link?
Black person or troony?
WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM
post your favorite TP fanart
what country were these from? somewhere in SEA or africa?
Ghana
x ghana give it to ya
thanks, I love it
SHADOW
TAKE ME DOWN
God, the fricking songs at the end of each episodes were such a cool fricking touch. I wonder if these bands came in for free or if they were paid. Surely the budget for the show wasn't huge, and making 1h of TV isn't cheap either. Large chunks of the budget no doubt went to the nuke, but surely there is more to it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Reznor did it for free. He's always been down with doing weird shit.
he was involved with the soundtrack for Lost Highway. i know that he wienerblocked Marilyn Manson from being involved other than a b-side being included on the soundtrack which started the divide between them.
Lynch is also a pretty well respected musician, who has used music really effectively in his movies.
I heard the Pixies version of In Heaven long before I knew anything about eraserhead.
And if you influenced the pixies you influenced pretty much every alternative rock act since.
Bowie shows up in FWWM.
I'm sure everyone got paid, but I suspect most people said "YES!" before he finished asking them.
I was aware of his tie with music, or his own productions, but not this much. Thanks for the heads up, pretty cool to read!
OH NO
I thank Lynch very much for introducing me to Au Revoire Simone
DO I LOOK LIKE
THE WALK OVER ME TYPE
Lynch is also a musician and knows all of those bands. I suppose Trent Reznor is a fan.
FOR THE LAST TIME
Someone explain the scene where they finally confront the doppelganger.
Not a lot of symbolism there unless you want to dive into what it could mean as Coop splitting in two after utterly failing in his quest to save Laura/the town in S1/2. Pretty sure that's just a regular story beat because Lynch loves the idea of doppelgangers.
The one where green glove lad has an anime standoff with Mr. C/Bob and wins? Probably the most straightforward moment in The Return tbh
>green glove lad
If Jack Nance was still around his character would have had the glove.
Watched TP as a teenager, thought S1 was kino but S2 got pretty boring after trying to tough it out through like seven or so episodes. Should I go back and try to rewatch the entire series or is there really only certain episodes of S2 worth viewing to appreciate S3?
Just force yourself through the latter part of season 2. It picks up in the last three or four episodes.
Though you can absolutely skip through James' running away arc because it has absolutely zero bearing on anything.
you can also ignore all the Nadine shit, Ed scenes only matter if they involve Norma
The Nadine subplot isn't as bad, but yeah, it's definitely skippable.
The whole subplot that takes place out of town with James is incredibly worthless and can easily be skipped. Although the door knob is a certified Lynchian KINO moment.
ffs lmao, got me good
yes, finish s2, otherwise 3 will make no sense. watching the movie is mandatory too, even tho the first 30 minutes or whatever feel like absolute non sense
bringing him back at all, especially liek this, was quite fricking something to see
this is the historical peak of CGI through all of mankind
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I love a good crackpot theory as much as the next guy but this is a stretch even for me.
It's not a theory, it's an image. It's an image of despair imprinted with a symbol of pure evil and dread. Does it mean anything? Does anything mean anything? I just think it's neat.
But.
Who is the dreamer?
the audience
Everyone is, it's not one person. People feed negativity into the Black Lodge, which in turn feeds negativity back into the real world. People are making their own misery. They are all the dreamer, because the world is changing according to their actions. See how the atom bomb conjured Bob.
the dreamer is
Well, Ganker?
Left, obviously.
I could never once believe Moira as Donna
She did a great job but it just wasn't the same
I watched seasons 1 and 2 4 years back. Never watched the 3rd one but will watch it eventually. took me a while to warm up for the series but by the end of third episode i was completely hooked. It is confusing at times but the characters are so damn interesting that you just want more.
What is Twin Peaks of vidya and why?
>What is Twin Peaks of vidya and why?
The easy answer is Deadly Premonition because it's basically Twin Peaks: The Game
Deadly Premonition was inspired by Twin Peaks so probably that. i've never played it though so i can only say Silent Hill which was also inspired by Lynch's work but has its own distinct identity. but there's a lot of the same DNA: striking images meant to inspire thought, with elements of the work's story up to the audience to piece together rather than having it explained directly.
Silent Hill 1-4, particularly SH1 and SH2.
Max Payne
>all of these people shit talking season 2
Filtered. Windominated even
Frick. Watching this for the first time at night was quite the adventure, doesn't help that I'm a bit of a b***h with spook/horror stuff. The Visuals combined with the Music is just excellent.
God damnit, Leo with the lipstick smeared on looks like spaget.
How much did you guys agree/disagree with their interpretation of Twin Peaks?
I refuse to touch YT content for this show, it doesn't need a explanation of third party interpretation. Make your own, simple as that.
its sickening
Is this the guy that argues it's all about electricity or some shit?
it's interesting but it's gay pretending it's "the" answer to everything. he's probably right about some broad concepts like spirits like BOB being a metaphor for the content of mass media, but then to pretend that's all lodge spirits are is stupid.
broadly speaking the entire show is a metaphor for mass media, which he's right about but it's just one aspect of the show but he acts like it's the one and only thing. same as the dorks that think they can "explain" this
I don't know what this is, but looking at the replies I guess it's some moronic youtube thing.
no one will ever get it, because Lynch doesn't want anyone to ever "get it" everything by his own word and desire will always be ambiguous and no definitive answer will ever be given.
if you really want an interpretation just watch or read every single interview with Lynch about his works, every person having an interpretation and talking to others about it and enjoying that action was always the goal
complete shit
The whole series is a sinkhole of occultist themes
The more conspiracy stuff you’re aware of, the more enjoyable it gets
there is no answer, if there ever was one it's only on Lynch's head and we will never know about it.
the only thing you can get for sure is that he really likes cheap cg, electricity and doppelgangers
NTA
>the only thing you can get for sure is that he really likes cheap cg
But then how do you explain the entire nuke scene? It's a extreme outlier, I get that, but it's still interesting.
>well known figure who Lucas tried to get to direct one of the prequels
Jesus Christ I fricking forgot about that. Imagine Episode 1 directed by Lynch, with Lucas as a writer. Pure fricking Insanity. Why Lucas ever thought this would've been a good idea is beyond me. Entertaining for fricking sure, but absolutely insane for the franchise.
>Why Lucas ever thought this would've been a good idea is beyond me
It's probably the best idea that anyone has ever had.
>We will never see Lucas direct/write the prequels to episode 1-3 as he originally wanted
>We will never see Episode 1-3 directed by Lynch
>We will never see nightmare fueled avant-garde star wars content
Wasn't the production company taking a huge shit on lynch the entire time, the movie not even being finished and rushing the ending of the books? I imagine Lucas would've given him a lot more leeway to pull his shit, resolving these type of issues instantly.
Everything about Dune was fricked to hell. Lynch even got his name taken off it in later releases. It soured him so badly that he never tried to make another commercial movie again.
That was it, thanks for the reminder!
>Palp and the death star battle directed by Lynch
One can dream, one can dream.
>Traded Dune for SW
A good deal when you think about it, shame how everything went production wise tho.
>a man made disaster or "evil" has to look realistic.
Fair enough. It sure had one hell of a impact because of it, seeing how everything else looks dirt cheap in comparison.
Honestly if it was anything like Dune then it might've been more watchable than what we got. I still hold that movie up as like peak design even if it is fairly miserable. Certainly more sensible than Jodorowsky's idea.
The production design of Dune is fricking fantastic, especially in the first half, and honestly a lot of that movie informs the pictures in my head when I read the books. The sound track is also top tier.
The movie is terribly flawed, but its just so fricking weird and unique that I genuinely like it as a dune fan and a david lynch fan.
If you've never seen it, go track down the spice diver fan edit.
I would have loved to see Jodorowsky's version, and everyone is always quick to point out that none of it would have worked, but the fact is the people who were doing the effects all went on and basically used the ideas they had for Dune to make shit like star wars. I'm sure it would have been a batshit insane mess, but its fricking jodorowsky thats the ride you bought the ticket for.
The silver lining, we got the Incal and Metabarons instead which are fricking fantastic and weird and absolutely worth reading.
>spice diver fan edit
What about the Extended Edition or whatever? It's a release I got at some point, but have yet to watch it.
Watching the doc about Jodorowsky's Dune concepts made me realize how off his nut the guy is, but he did have some incredibly unique ideas/designs.
He's very interesting. I personally love Santa Sangre. Every arthoe loves him until they find out about El Topo
Holy Mountain has one of the greatest endings in cinematic history.
I remember being introduced to Alejandro Jodowrsky when I learned that No More Heroes 1 was based on El Topo. Which explains the insanity, the last boss kinda reminds me of the El Topo protag too.
Also he wrote the comic The Incal which inspired Gravity Rush
I don't want to start making headcannons because that's gay, the only reason I think that the nuke and that whole episode was like that was because a man made disaster or "evil" has to look realistic.
anything else, Lynch likes his cheap cg
If Lynch directed Star Wars then maybe I would actually like Star Wars
>likes electricity
In occultism, electricity is associated with the concept of the metaphysical becoming real
In Season 3 Cooper keeps on following the electricity which ultimately takes him to the Dark World, where he loses everything
>likes doppelgangers
this is an (unintentional) reference to Carl Jung’s shadow self concept which is overdone in pop culture
I agree completely that it’s up to interpretation, but I see the series more as a non-metaphoric literal narrative with occultist themes weaved in
The metaphoric nature, if any, comes in with the Main World being stuck in the idealism of the 90s, whereas the Dark World has been corrupted by the cynicism of modern day
Dougie Jones
jade give two rides
I bet she did.
What was the best end credits sequence in Season 3?
For me it was the gas station one with Ed
>reflection doesn't match up with the scene
>so... WHAT IF cooper turned moronic and crawled through an electrical outlet to become himself again wouldn't that be interesting
And it was interesting
>not invovled with any of the laura shit
>owned her own business
>fixed shelly
>fixed big Ed
>cute as a button
best girl
She also died after filming S3.
I'm contacting ABC and showtime to get this game shelved even if its free
>enemy boss can be bribed to avoid the encounter
Could this be Belushi's best fricking role?
as in his one and only good role? yes
>game actually has a viable pacifist run
Honestly I think even if you're too dumb/lazy to think up your own interpretation of the series, it's still a really good watch. Just treat it like you're watching someone else's nightmares.
this
it's simply fun to watch the things that are happening on the screen regardless of whatever meaning there is or isn't
that scene actually got me, I expected some weird shit, but only like her acting strange or maybe crying and screaming, but not that.
same here. her suddenly turning insanely powerful demon whatever the frick surprised me a good bit.
I never thought I was smarter than anyone else till I saw half the internet get filtered by Lynch.The entire show was about inuition not IQ, it's like getting mad you only can intuit the meaning of a song.
Silent hill 1 gave me twin peaks vibes. That's why I like it so much. The return is pure unfiltered kino. It filtered like half the fan base, but in the end it was resolved. I hope they never make a s4. It's perfect.
S3 happening at all is a miracle as is I feel like, no way in hell would he EVER make S4.
S3 is like as definite of an ending as possible. I think Frost still has some ideas he wanted to hash out given the book he wrote past S3 but there's no way they could do it without Lynch and I'm pretty certain he's done.
better keep it like that, adding more stuff might end up hurting Twin Peaks, ambiguity is a gift. also even when we got more questions than answers, the ending of Season 3 was spectacular.
he would but it would just be another S3, where he'd use the same actors and setting as a vague backdrop to burn through major studio money but offer no real continuation to Twin Peak's narrative doing weird shit. which would be great honestly, but no studio is gonna greenlight that, now especially with the economy in the toilet.
>tfw you will never be a rich frick that does random good around the world, or give people like lynch money to finance their insane bullshit
if i were a bitcoin billionaire i'd basically just give Lynch and Kojima as much money as i could to do cool/weird shit with.
>Every time I watch some chill doc about a place or country I feel the urge of giving them a ton of money to improve a certain part of their lives, like giving them a new train or whatever
The same is the case of special creators like those two, I just wanna see what they can come up with with a unlimited budget, but still having a time limit to keep things sane.
Death Stranding is Kojima more or less being given an infinite budget so more of that.
Oh I know, but what we need is Death Stranding with more oomph, more gameplay/story, if you get what I mean.
Or maybe it just needs to be more condensed, so it's closer to a MGS1-3 and less like MGS5.
>but what we need is Death Stranding with more oomph
Death Stranding 2
we have no idea how that game will look like currently, so that isn't a good argument for me, or one at all. could be the same type of game, but with a lil bit more stuff sprinkled in to keep it fresh, but nothing huge.
>isn't he the devil?
just like in twin peaks!
Well if you just think about it a little bit, Death Stranding was about walking from one side of the country to the other in order to reconnect it.
Since that's already been done, why would we do it again?
>death stranding 2: Straight Story
frick I know, kojimbo will find a way. just saying that not much might change, or only a little bit. who knows.
I don't like guess bullshit like this as an argument tho since it's not solid.
Because we could walk from the top to the bottom this time
Someone post the Todd Howard imposed on the last minute of the series.
Didn’t season 2 end with an explosion? And the character whose death was implied by that cliffhanger just briefly appears as an unhappily married background character in season 3?
???
It ends with Coop trapped in the lodge and I think you're referring to Audrey but it's not implied anywhere that she died. Or that there was an explosion. Wat
>And the character whose death was implied by that cliffhanger just briefly appears as an unhappily married background character in season 3?
She has more importance than that.
She was hospitalized after the explosion during which the Evil Cooper raped her and cursed her with a demon child. She has a few really confusing dreamlike scenes that suggest her mind is trapped in the Black Lodge in some way, and she can't determine what's real and what's not.
Remember the explosion in the bank vault at the end of S2 when she handcuffed herself in there?
>Remember the explosion in the bank vault
Oh god I forgot about that. Feels really weird being reminded of that and only faintly remembering bits and pieces.
I really need to slog through S2 again at some point. But she does get shafted pretty hard in S3. I like to think Lynch is just petty like that.
No her actress is nuts
I'm pretty sure I remember reading back in the day that it is safe to literally skip most of the "Hurley novela" episodes
Yeah, I know what's skippable but it's still just not the same having to jump around.
Not that Bobby was a bad looking kid but cop Bobby could absolutely frickin' get it. What a glow-up.
Imho you're missing out by doing this. I watched the series per someone's recommendation who suggested I do this, but I didn't skip any episodes and am glad I did.
S2 is pretty unfairly maligned if you ask me.
Hurley's self discovery romance novela was pure shit, everyone knows that, and that the studio fricked up forcing the killers reveal at the start of the season and then sidelining Lynch, the Novela saga was just wasting time until Lynch came back to try and salvage the season.
I'm pretty sure that was one of the big reasons Lync said that the only way he was doing Season 3 was if the had 100% complete creative control with no interference whatsoever
I honestly liked it man. The show wasn't ever just about figuring out who killed Laura Palmer.
You guys really seem to downplay just how much this is also Mark Frost's show.
you can like it that's fair, but Frost was also against revealing the killer that early, you can notice when they come back to fix the season.
It is not even the relationship stuff that is the problem, but the amount, you can have development, but starting an episode to have an hour of Hurley on a bike and falling in love with an older lady and nothing else happening was boring, and the ratings showed that too
What I always found weird about this, is that they reveal the killer in the international pilot.
it was artificial because the studio demanded the reveal to be early, if I remember correctly Lynch only directed the first 2 episodes of seaons 2 and then came back for the finale
He also only directed two of the episodes in the first season, the pilot and episode 2.
Best part about season 3 was adding unsolvable mysteries back to Twin Peaks..
you saw what happened to David Bowie when he tried to solve the misteries, we are better off like this
It's slippery in here
Audrey. Thr Twin Peaks files states that she survived the explosion but her status in The Return is vague, most people think she's in a some sort of mental hospital or trapped in a different realm
Audrey was going to have a real plot but her actress was schizo and Lynch had to do something with her and had t keep her away from the rest of the cast who hated her. The midget threatening to write her out of the story was a Lynch author insert. She was going to be the one robbed by Richard, not her grandma and she was going to have a beauty salon. The explosion put her in a coma and bad coop got her preggo... I guess in the final show that made her lose her mind anc Frost's book sayw she was agoraphobic.
>actress was a schizo and hated by everyone
>lynch had to keep her away from the rest of the cast
>the midget was a stand in and everything involving her was weird shit he dreamt or whatever
holy shit, that sure explains those weird ass scenes
Huh? I'm pretty sure she and lycnh were on amicable terms
Oh they're amicable but she is actually nuts. She's the one who told him to change Audrey's story. In the bluray she jokes about yelling at him TO him lmao. Her twitter was nuts and other cast members said she was hard to work with.
>Audrey was going to have a real plot but her actress was schizo and Lynch had to do something with her and had t keep her away from the rest of the cast who hated her.
That's complete bullshit, what happened was that they had planned a romance between Cooper and Audrey, but Kyle MacLachlan and Lara Flynn Boyle were dating at the time, so they asked Lynch to remove that plotline. And the people who took over during S2 really didn't know what to do with Audrey.
Would have been worse is if they'd wasted a ton of screen time on a nothing plot that went nowhere like they did with James or Nadine.
What? I'm talking about season 3 not 2.
Canonically she survived but was in the hospital (maybe in a catatonic state) until evil cooper visits her and rapes her in the hospital before skipping town.
9 months later she has Richard who is an evil piece of shit who terrorizes everyone. His existence was a calculated contingency by evil cooper to avoid getting sent back to the lodge.
She's ""married"" to one of Mr. C's subordinates, after BOB rapes her.
Bob was just hitched onto Cooper for a ride. Evil Cooper was the rapist as a dark aspect of his obvious attraction to her.
I'll be honest, the 5-seconds Ray Wise has in the Return was probably the happiest I ever was watching TP. Mr C is good but nothing beats Leland
They really should have had him play Bob, to come full circle on the idea that Bob is the cycle of abuse. The drifter look he had in the first two seasons was the drifter who raped Leland at the summer house. So in passing on from Leland he should have taken Leland's shape next.
I love seeing him pop up in other weird shit. He's a fun actor.
What?! He has a Persona too?!
>First time I saw Ray Wise was in random sit coms and maybe some movies that I can't remember
>Now days when I see his face, all I see is pure fricking evil, and his smile spooks me a little bit
Twin Peaks did a number on me in that regard
He'll always be the henchman from robocop who freaks the frick out when toxic avenger comes around the corner.
For me it's either Robocop or fricking Reaper. God I can't believe I remember that show
He also shows up int he episode of star trek where picard gets worshipped as a god.
He's also in stuff like good night and good luck.
He's probably one of the most famous "that guy!" character actor.
Oh god you're right, forgot that I saw that episode not long ago. Wish my moronic ass brain wouldn't have such a dog shit attention span, since forever.
Dude gets around for sure, but his smile got butchered a bit for me after TP.
I used to love seeing him pop up in random Adult Swim stuff.
The only reason I remember Reaper is because whenever I see Ray Wise I think "hey isn't the Devil?"
he was also horribly underused in that awful sabrina netflix show. She shows up for like one epsiode as the devil and gets killed off.
my fricking sides, holy shit what
George's GFs mother was Laura Palmer's mother and her father was Mark Frost's dad literally because of twin Peaks. Since he murdered her and all lol.
We live inside a dream, Jerry!
I'm not exaggerating that when I hear someone bring up how "you can just skip s2 it sucks" that I mentally file them away as someone with very few opinions worth listening to. They're always the kinds of people who probably didn't even pay that much attention to whichever parts of the show they actually deemed watchable. They're also all fake Earthbound and Mother 3 fans in my experience.
Anyways! Fan game looks pretty sick. I'll be playing it.
When I started reading your post I instantly remembered how much I hate when Earthbound 'fans' tell people to skip Mother 1 and that was before you actually brought them up lol.
It's the exact same kind of brainrot lol. The hallmark of people who don't actually enjoy this kind of stuff, they just like the idea of liking it.
I'm exaggerating a little, but it really amuses me that people think large portions of s2 are filler just because Lynch didn't work on most of it.
I don't think anyone says that you should skip the entire season.
It is happening again.
The way one of the tamest, most un-violent murder scenes I've ever seen shook me harder than anything else
Gotta light?
Yeah yeah, but the dust mopping scene sucks
How do you guys cope with being Dale Cooper?
But I'm Mr. Jackpots
I like your attitude.
I don't know