Without sounding angry, irrational or the least bit flustered describe whats wrong with this and exactly why you feel it doesn't belong in a game.
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Without sounding angry, irrational or the least bit flustered describe whats wrong with this and exactly why you feel it doesn't belong in a game...
Hairstyle looks wildly out of place compared to every other character.
Being one-armed was Zul'jin's gimmick. Having another character like this removes his uniqueness.
Those little half-elf ears are very ugly in my opinion.
I find it hard to believe a character who is both blind and unarmed on one side would be capable of fighting effectively. Demon Hunters aren't actually blind btw.
She's a Black person.
Her shield looks goofy how its placed.
>Being one-armed was Zul'jin's gimmick. Having another character like this removes his uniqueness.
I thought Zul'jins gimmick was REMOVE ELF.
visual gimmick =! personality gimmick
If only Zul'jin were here, he'd deal with this new half-elf menace
>Hairstyles
Mohawks and other punk hairstyles have been in the game since Day 1.
Post one Warcraft human or elf rocking one. Should be easy, no?
One Warcraft Elf Mohawk.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that hairstyle was not playable on night elves at that point of the game, nor was purely black hair, that's a unique model they made for that advert and the subsequent event
Being blind is a common thing in wow, an unusual amount of orc blademasters are completely blind
There are blind blademasters in the Siege of Org raid but they're harmless trash mobs who cannot effectively fight against the players
They should make them miss 90% of attacks and switch to aoe or something after missing a certain amount
There's also that one at the end of AV for alliance
Drek? He's a shaman and is also a cripple
He's not crippled, he's just really old. He's shown to be able to stand, just not for very long. He's also well into senility and only has moments of lucidity.
I haven't even played MoP why do I remember the blademasters being blind?
I've been mandela'd
Did you mix them up with demon hunters wearing blindfolds in WC3?
siege of orgrimmar had blind blademaster trash mobs
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=72131/blind-blademaster
Drek is a Far Seer, been like that since WC3
Black folk are ugly, and this is a form of aesthetic terrorism?.
I don't think her arm is going to actually be "missing" when the expansion drops. I think she is going to have an arm made out of light or something and it simply doesn't show in the early model viewer due to how particle effects are in it.
Maybe but I doubt it. They made a while deal about the deaf centaur not using magic to circumvent her disability because it's more inclusive or whatever to show her dealing with it the way irl deaf people do.
If they give this chick a magic arm twitter will whine about ableism or whatever term they wanna use and blizzard desperately wants what twitter wants
They also had that one dracthyr in a wheelchair.
Now that was just comically fricked up.
>half-elf ears
they are clearly orc, I've seen a lot of orcs, and this one is certainly an orc
Being blind was also Drek'thar's gimmick
Being half-elf was Arator's gimmick.
She isn't unique in the slightest.
>Literal who npc with a generic model only Alliance players who did TBC quests ever saw
lol
Times up, white incel chud
>blind
>black
>disabled
Brave
high chance she is also lesbian and doesn't shut the frick up about how she thinks how hot women are or something.
MY WIFE
Shes black.
There are no jungles or hot places around stormwind or lorderon. Black humans dont have a lore explanation in the warcraft universe. Stranglethorn vale is not inhabitable. There are trolls and deadly panters there.
>Black humans dont have a lore explanation in the warcraft universe
Check out the ears, thats a Black Elf.
Stunning.
>Black Elf.
Blizzard has to calm down with these new elf races. Where does the nig'dorei come from
That's a half-elf. She comes from BBC.
>Lothar was black
Damn. Warcraft would've been different if he just fricked the orcs to submission. Thrall would've been called Twink in Warcraft 3 after getting mandated dickings in the internment camp.
Do we know it's elf and not nig'har I mean mag'har orc?
Just add the tusks.
>Check out the ears, thats a Black Elf.
I think she's probably a black half-elf, as she uses a human model with pointed ears.
Black half-elf, as TWW is adding the option for nearly all humanoid races to be half elves.
>sin’dorei/quel’dorei human/kul tiran rapebabies are now canon
ebic
It's just humans and kul'tirans getting pointy ears options and blood+void elves getting round ear options.
Gnomes can't get elf pussy and dwarves don't want it
>There are trolls
I mean allegorically, trolls, at least darkspear ones are black/Caribbean
If we're being real, "humans" in Warcraft are stand-ins for white Europeans. Jungle trolls are just about any intelligent large-society primitives (Africa/South America). Tauren are native American plains Indians. Goblins are israelites, etc.
What are the various elven races stand ins for?
Probably some impressive culture that we no longer have record of, like the Middle Eastern people who figured out stuff like algebra only to have their libraries burned down by muslims.
It was the Mongols that did that. You can blame them for the Middle East's never ending downwards spiral.
The Mongols gave them the push that got them rolling down hill, but they have themselves and later conquerors to blame for the current state.
So not only orcs are "codded" black... trolls too. Can I ask what's the next one? just to be ready. Taurens?
orcs are too organized and industrious to be blacks, that's why they fit mongols/slavs better
Darkspear Trolls seem like a better comparison. They have absolutely nothing going for themselves and they are only remotely relevant because they are riding hard on Orcish coattails.
All coded black races in wow
Humans
Orc
Night Elves
Trolls
Dark iron dwarves
Goblins
Tauren
Tauren are native Americans, not black, though. And goblins are sleazebag New Yorkers.
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Explain
Are Taurens dancing bananas because they do the peanut butter jelly time dance?
>Black people like bananas
Coincidence?
Pandaren do Caramelldansen, despite being clearly Chinese.
They are Japanese coded
They are asiatic and mostly chinese styled. Coded is troon speak to force heckin diversity into everything.
There is no fantasy anymore, only Black person race fetish.
>And goblins are sleazebag New Yorkers.
You can say israelites here. No one will mind.
Nah, New Yorkers are a special kind of sleazebag regardless of their religion.
Trolls are quite literally based off islanders from the West Indies, whether that's cultural or religion which is a 1-1 of haitian voodoo. Orcs = Black folk is what you get out of porn addicts and weirdos, unironically. The eternal American need to associate anything mildly masculine with the non-white despite them being quasi-mongolians mixed with vikings and various other tribal cultures along the steppe/europe.
You're overcomplicating it, people just assumed the real world racial counterpart of each race based on their /dance emote, and both Orc males and females got their /dances from rap videos.
No, I'm not. Orcposters and blacked trannies go hand in hand it's a mental illness spawned from the modern RP community and people that have never read a single piece of historical literature in their lives.
Taurens are very transparently Native Americans and always have been.
Tanarisian humans.
Skin color is just random in Warcraft like eye and hair color.
This has always bothered me
I get that blizz devs gave you an option to make a black human back when vanilla wow dropped initially, but geographically it has never made sense.
Were there any important human npcs that had dark skin in Warcraft?
Like if anything, they could have had a faction of dark skinned humans coming out of kalimdor, but it never made sense with the eastern kingdoms
It's quite simple, anon, all the dark-skinned humans are from Gilneas.
I agree. I am not against having black humans running around. What I am against is having them randomly show up with no explanation as to where they came from. Now if they showed up on a boat from some previously unknown island or something I'd be fine with it.
>Were there any important human npcs that had dark skin in Warcraft?
Nefarian, most famously. The fact he was able to infiltrate stormwind nobility for decades presumably means it wasn't THAT weird. Elwynn is located pretty south on EK, maybe the further south regions like redridge had some equivalent to Moors. IDK it's never addressed and humans didn't evolve naturally anyways, they're old-god cursed descendants of fricking space robots
And then, in update, half of Stormwind got a black skin as if they all had acanthosis nigricans.
What is the UV index of elwynn forest?
That's matters more than jungles and temperature
>Stranglethorn Vale is not inhabitable.
Bro, your Goblin settlements??
Imagine pretending that Warcraft has realistic geography.
>There are no jungles or hot places around stormwind
Stranglethorn
>Stranglethorn vale is not inhabitable.
Pic related
is that wizard101?
>There's no jungles except the jungle that is there because that jungle doesn't count because it uhhh just doesn't okay?
Ugly
this does belong in the game and is a perfect fit for modern wow, though i think they should have gone farther and made her fat like a male kul tiran.
>a perfect fit for modern wow
Sad but true. Until I read this post I really was thinking about how poorly it fit the canon and the lore and the setting and-... But then I realized none of that matters anymore.
She needs to be a housewife.
>Killmonger hair
>blind in one eye
>missing an arm
>has some blood relation to a major character somehow and is just now appearing out of thin-air
Capeshit tier writing.
>why you feel it doesn't belong in a game
In what game? If it's a historical game, or historically inspired game, then the answer is obvious and you're being facetious.
If it's "pure" fantasy, then who cares, as long as it's not inserted there on the purpose of agenda rather than worldbuilding/storytelling.
The design is ugly, though.
The character appears to be a big collection of things they want to acknowledge. Supposedly also the latest retcon, which alwaysleaves a bad taste
it's an OC donut self insert
Whats the diversity tool score
64/70
Sisters, we need to get this number higher.
the only way to get her higher at that point is to make her a fat granny
it would at least match the one raspy grandma who does half the female voices in the game
She's gonna be voiced by the same nigress who voices important female trolls.
There have been amputee soldiers on active duty like admiral Horatio Nelson in real life, so it is plausible as long as the soldier in question isn't portrayed as an active hand-to-hand frontline fighter (no idea what she is).
In the end though, in fantasy worlds it is important to just have internal consistently. If the universe has powerful healing magic, there should be a consistent explanation to why disabilities are not just healed.
This is a setting where we can reliably bring back the death with 0 consequences. The concept of anyone living with a disability is insane.
Warcraft has space ships, futuristic teleportation, futuristic guns, alien god civilizations, and demigods who can grow an entire forest by sneezing, but still has people pretending to live in Medieval inspired housing, in mudhuts in deserts, in mountains, and in trees.
you are mentally ill and none of those are warcraft, those are disgusting hamfisted attempts to string a franchise along to make money by perverting the ip by mentally ill leftist transexuals
Correct. Someone should've just used magic to heal them. Or bought a robo arm from some Gnomes. Or had the Elves create a magical arm for them.
Are trannies and furries the only people left working on WoW now?
Even if they're not, they're being forced by The Invisible Hand to make content that appeals to them.
>Invisible Hand
>Not the great metal hand in the sky.
Funny how in the RTS games, that joke was the basis for The Silver Hand
Yes, only trannies and leftwing freaks remain there
>fact: that delusional troony fricked off to riot
>fact 2: not long after that, Ghostcrawler left riot
That was some kind of grift, right?
No way he thought he would pass, right?
man twitter must hate mash
i remember this being streamed and they disabled all of chat cause people kept posting the disgust emote in chat lol
0mhw
I like her claws
Is this Elune or Azeroth?
Just some member, most likely leader since it's a woman, of a new npc race that will likely become playable based on the amount of customisation and having gear rigging
I could definitely see the devs making Azeroth look like one of those. I think Sneedolands implies that Elune is a construct.
>Azeroth could be some Shodan-level hot dommy mommy with some old god aesthetic added to connote the influence they had during her development
>just going to be ugly
>Xal'atath going to have incredibly lame motivations and/or be another Sylvanas
>"people" are going to spend 100$ on this shit
without using any letter in the alphabet describe why you should be allowed to live
Breaks my immersion, makes it feel like a metropolitan 2024 american setting cosplaying as a medieval europe inspired fantasy world.
at this point just make her a lesbian also, go all out
Hey out of curiosity how many lesbian characters are there in WoW now 'cause I can only think of two: one from Legion and one all the fricking way back in wrath before all this bullshit.
I don't know I haven't played since Warlords. I know there's a bunch of gays in Dragonflight though
I hate black people.
i have eyes. hope that helped.
She doesn't look appealing, and the design reeks of laziness.
For clarification, sake I'm not moronic so her being black has nothing to do with it, the design just fricking sucks.
it's obviously diversity checklist design which means blizzard can't make naturally diverse characters
>Without sounding angry, irrational or the least bit flustered describe whats wrong with this and exactly why you feel it doesn't belong in a game.
It's like making a game about or that borrows african myths and legends or entertainment written by africans and shoving in a straight white male as their leader.
>It's like making a game about or that borrows chinese myths and legends or entertainment written by nihonjin and shoving in a straight chinese male as their leader.
Hope your whole point isn't
>but le golden supasayan hair
Next time they make another Black Panther movie, i hope i'll see you in the forefront asking to make him a straight white male for diversity's sake. I think they're working on a Black Panther game right now, so here's your chance to prove how smart, intellectual and anti racist you are.
I hope by the time you're 35 you stop caring about capeshit.
>capeshit.
>he says in a thread about pauldronshit
You meant straight Japanese male
There aren't any real world countries though so your point fails.
JANNIES
It's okay bro, through the magic of transexualism, that's a male nipple now.
It's a character that somehow exists from a white guy with a white wife, while also being in a universe where mechanized prosthetics exist, making her having no arm completely pointless and actually a stupid character decision. Also the fact that she's a half elf and Blood Elves are white solely because their skin was bleached by the Sunwell and they live more in the Sun, they're basically Sun Elves in comparison to Night Elves, it's the entire point that their skin is white, which also makes Blood Elves getting black skin options to be incredibly silly.
If not for those things I wouldn't honestly care.
Depends on how much integrity you are willing to have for your fantasy war story. I could probably accept a black colored female Paladin, even if she was a cripple, and maybe if she was blind, though she would probably not be serving in the war effort anymore. The hair doesn't fit at all in the setting, so it'd be a stretch. But making her black and also a relative to a prominent lore heavy character that was very white and loved by fans? And then making her into a new and shiny half-elf hybrid we never saw until now after several decades of gameplay? That's just taking the piss.
Even the ESGmaxxing of modern industry aside, some degree of lorerapes tend to always happen with whatever long running IPs. I don't think there are any long running fantasy universes where the consistency and integrity has been preserved beyond the core works set in it and perhaps some still careful expanded works.
It is a potpourri of tropes and 180 degree tropes.
The armor makes no sense.
The face is unappealing and lacks personality. It is blank.
Does not respect the rule of 3rds.
Is generally soft, lacking detail, and has conflicting design elements, such as soft whites and slopes interrupted by thing and long spikes and a chain that looks like barbed wire, which doesn't fit with the rest of the design.
Color scheme is cookie cutter and desaturated to fit in with trends from 10 years ago.
The boots look stupid and the notion that a warrior with one arm would have such a large pauldron restricting his movement range is unintuitive and nonsensical.
The general form of the armor doesn't fit the purported function, and the design of the character itself.
>one eyed, one armed half-elf related to a major lore figure that has never once been alluded to
>injuries probably wont even matter and she'll be hyper competent anyway
all you really need is to throw in ancestory to an angel and demon, a katana and youve got a 14 year olds mary sue fanction OC
How much you wanna bet she will be Azeroth's special chosen one of a kind snowflake that will solve everyone's problem just by being there.
Elves are supposed to be ethereal, otherworldly, and beautiful.
This character should be an Orc with some kind of spell-rot type shit on her face.
do blizzfriends REALLY???
I just don’t like it. I will not be playing any version of WoW, but that’s because Blizzard are greedy fricks that purposefully ruin the game with tokens and selective moderation and borderline approval of RMT because every bot is a sub that makes money.
She's ugly
I dislike helmetless armored characters
There's no reason for her to be armless, her armor shows status and the setting has very strong restorative magic
she has a shield there in-game like one of those draenei battle bots
aren't there gnomes with prosthetics and shit
why no arm
Imagine giving money to Blizzard after Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Because she is not a character, just a list of checkboxes to fill a quota.
I'm sure all those black, scarred, one eyed, one armed elves with shaved side haircuts are gonna go crazy for this. They desperately need the representation.
This is totally different than black, scarred, one eyed TWO armed elves with shaved side haircuts. They're just fricking far over represented in media, it's very problematic.
Black folk are a net negative to any community they are involved with.
You know very well why
Black people don't belong in warcraft.
Stop being racist to Black folk you SCUM
Africa doesn't exist in Azeroth.
Lothar wasn't a Black person
It’s jarring because Lothar himself wasn’t black or half-elf, his lineage wasn’t black or half-elf, and no known relatives were black or half-elf. The only currently guessed lineage is that Faerin is instead Taria Wrynn’s daughter and sister to Anduin Lothar - lothar just happened to be white and no half-elf while Faerin is both. Since the WoW film depicts Taria as black, this leads to the conclusion that Taria Wrynn was an unfaithful Queen who slept with, at the very least, an elf out of wedlock. In addition, if this is the case than Faerin should be SIGNIFICANTLY older, as she would be Anduin’s great aunt. The most likely reason she isn’t is that Blizzard will claim that, since she is a half-elf, she ages slower, which is a dumb excuse to make Taria Wrynn (who isn’t a half-elf or elf herself) a canonical cheater, a bawd, if you will. The most offensive thing about her character is that she is a half-elf. Missing an arm is old news (Zul’jin), being half-blind is honestly milquetoast, and her armor is genuinely good. The haircut reeks of donutsteal Afrocentrism-chasing, but that isn’t unique to her character but rather how Blizzard handles race as token monoliths rather than depictions of people in a medieval setting. In general, making it so most races can be half-elf is really stupid for entirely different reasons that somewhat destroy the uniqueness of the few half-mixed individuals while also making no sense for half of the races the option was added for. Finally, it is strange that she has the last name of Lothar, as she most definitely isn’t a Lothar - she is at best a bastard using the last name to carry the legacy, which I guess is fine but also sits very weirdly.
>tl;dr
Faerin being black isn’t the biggest issue, it’s her being half-elf and retroactively making her mom a prostitute.
Most correct and well spoken Anon in this thread.
She doesn't even need to be Taria's daughter that's the thing. In current lore Half-Elves do live a while. Up to two to three hundred years.
The events of WC1 only happened 40 years ago.
It could easily be a family member further up the Lothar line that had the kid
So there was another lothar alive this entire time and nobody ever mentioned this?
Given the whole backstory of the zone she's from is quite literally.
A group of Arathi found themselves underground after following the guidance of a magical crystal, that's likely to be a Nauru.
The entire zone is now filled with Half Elves and not pure Arathi, despite the Northern Kingdoms getting their shit kicked in for 30+ years.
Then yes, it's quite literally likely that it's some long lost Lothar up the family tree, that made the move, settled down and had this chick. And that's probably the narrative they're looking to go for, given they made the conscious decision to make them all Half Elves.
Except no one in the Lothar line is black, nor elf/half-elf. The Lothar line traces back to Thoradin whose only known descendants were white humans, with Faldir and Anduin Lothar being the last of the known Arathi lineage, the latter being the literal last of the bloodline. There are no known elves that carry the last name Lothar, nor would there reasonably be due to how last names are generally carried down by males or through maiden names. The only way Faerin is a “Lothar” is through being a bastard (in the literal sense) or through adoption. Since Taria is black, this would explain part of her appearance, but the half-elf does NOT work, as Taria herself was not half-elf, and neither was Lothar. In the two scenarios, either Faerin is: black for the sake of being black with no relation to Taria and just happens to have had a previously unknown Lothar sleep with her black elven mother to create her, of which nothing is mentioned, or that she is a bastard of Taria Wrynn and half-sister to Lothar, whose mother slept with an unknown high elf (as blood elves wouldn’t of existed at this point, she isn’t half-night elf, and she isn’t half-troll). Blizzard wrote themselves into a weird corner by not making her black, but rather making her a half-elf, as it paints Taria in a terrible light. Either remove the name “Lothar” or remove the ears and the problem for the most part goes away.
Are you trying to argue lore for wow?
That dog wont hunt and you know it. Just accept the retcons as people scream metzens name.
thoradin was always black, goy.
Aren't these a splinter group of arathi that got stuck in caveworld somehow? Couldn't that have happened ages ago and one of their original group was some irrelevant Lothar between Thoradin and Anduin, maybe even a second born son or something? And that Lothar could have met, plowed and impregnated one of those black elves that have apparently always existed as of a few years ago
This creates even more questions than answers, ultimately. No known relatives of Thoradin’s line are known to have gone missing, and mind you he was considered royalty after the Troll Wars. While a splinter group of Arathis going missing is fine, a member of the royal lineage going missing would’ve been a bigger deal, especially one that would have its roots currently traced through Stormwind’s royalty. Thoradin’s initial human kingdom splintered, and his line went south to found Stormwind, not across the western sea, somehow missing Pandaria, into Khaz Algar. On Wowhead, it explains that this splinter group is NOT directly related to Thoradin nor his direct descendants - this ultimately creates a paradox with the character of Faerin: she cannot be a Lothar, yet is named as such. If she is a Lothar, daughter of Taria, then what is she doing in Hallowfall? The same interview from the devs in which we’re told that the Arathi in Hallowfall aren’t directly from Lothar’s lineage also says that they somehow ended up in Khaz Algar BEFORE the initial kingdom splintered. The entire character is a headache that reeks of the writing team not understanding their own IP. Either don’t make her a half-elf and keep her as a bastard Lothar who found the lost Arathi tribe somehow, or don’t make her a Lothar and she can be whatever donutsteal the devs want her to be.
>No known relatives of Thoradin’s line are known to have gone missing
What about unknown relatives
Did blizzard really outline a full genealogy without any gaps? Would it really be that unthinkable for them to add a previously unmentioned younger brother a few generations back even if they had?
would be very deus ex machina of them
>your long lost half brother daughters child has arrived that we did not know about until lityerally just now.
Where were they even hiding?
Yeah that sounds like exactly the kind of shit they would do.
We just had an expansion with a totally different species of centaur appearing independently of the kalimdor centaur because they didn't want to have to explain how they got there when the dragon Isles were lost before centaurs existed
They're shoehorning arathi into the story even though it makes no sense for them to be there, they mas well shoehorn in a long lost black half-elf lothar into the mix too
This game just isn't for me anymore. It's a shame too because a lot of the systems were pretty good now. I played since the first Warcraft and I just can't accept the lore rape anymore.
df centaurs are probably the worst race added to the game every which nobody likes
The only family tree Blizzard's ever done was the Windrunner family tree iirc.
Other than that, it's all intentionally left vague so shit can happen whenever they want to
Read further, the devs openly state in their TWW alpha interview that no direct descendants of Thoradin are part of this Arathi tribe. The surname Lothar should NOT be anywhere within the tribe. Unless the devs are openly lying in their interviews (which wouldn’t be a first I guess) then the character does NOT make much sense at all, unless the last name is an adopted moniker, but that would also be stupid and adding confusion for the sake of it.
Where'd Thoradin get his last name? Unless he made it up himself there were Lothar's before him. Could be she's a Lothar, but not descended from Thoradin.
>wake up
>blizzshit game has another nonsense retcon
everytime
If they did nnot retcon every expansion would it really be a wow expansion?
Why doesn't she commission a mechagnome to make her a new arm? Or why can't she get a magic eye to replace her blind one? I guess she doesn't want to give up her handicap parking space.
Considering she’s a cave-dwelling zealot of the light, she probably doesn’t know of Mechagnomes being out and about Azeroth. Replacing the eye with a magic one or light-infused one would be neat, though.
You would think ROYALTY would go to some lengths to get their necessary healing or magic fix for their body problems. There's a whole queetline where the king of the gnomes is a raid boss in Battle for Azeroth, he's injured in the fight with the players and his mechanic shoots him to safety in an escape pod. As you're unlocking the Mechagnome island and allied race, you help find parts for and get surgery done to save the gnome king's life with a mecha heart surgery replacement. If this armless, eyelets moron is on the alliance, there's absolutely no reason the mecha gnomes wouldn't be called upon to make a mecha arm and goggle eye to fix her.
They probably won't try to explain it in any way but I imagine it's a religious thing like how Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions even when it could save them.
she dies in a quest
>wow
>named characters dying
Nice joke.
They just killed off Khadgar.
The main character of Warcraft will not die at the start of an expansion. There's zero chance.
>khadgar cucks danussy by buttfricking sylvanus in the shadowlands post-death
ebic sauce
>Character is dead because other characters think he's dead
You are just the type of low IQ person I'd expect to find in LFR
his death was foreshadowed in SL and now we've got this
at this point its safe to consider him dead until we have information telling us otherwise
Kill the past, push the future. Just like Star Wars
Khadgar has been a trash character every since he was brought back.
serious frick mr. dad jokes, people are nostalgiac for wod now?
People have been pushing the idea that maybe WoD wasn't so bad, ever since Asmon came out a few years ago saying it was a good expansion.
And you can tell it's purely kids who started in legion, because they still insist modern patches are worse than WoD's infamous selfie patch.
>kill off kaghdar
>player not part of the scene at all
Metzen was never good
more faction leader capeshit, wish they'd kill off thrall and jaina too
About fricking time
how the frick "she" can use a bow? is he moron?
Yeah maybe they really will go with magic arm that just doesn't display in the model viewer. It would also explain the shield
Feels like a political statement rather then a character
It's emblematic of what's wrong with modern games, the political pandering and social justice points taking priority in evi
Black person fatigue
Brown is bad, should be white.
Blacks were already represented by orcs (brutish muscular morons who live in huts)
Adding then to humans as well feels redundant
>fantasy setting yet moronic zoomer hood hairdo
>pointy ears would make her a half-ling, looks fully black
>not one but two disabilities to get extra ESG points
This seems to be the creation between a 13 year old edgelord and an overweight feminist.
Melanin isn't random. It isn't just a paint job. People with darker skin come from areas with intense heat. Where is this character from? Stormwind isn't in a desert. It isn't a tropical island.
>Where is this character from?
In WoW all humans are the degenerate descendants of the Vrykul giants, who in turn were created by the Titans. They do not come from natural evolution.
Humans are old-god tainted descendants of Vrykul who are old-god tainted creations of the Titans in their image and used to be stone pre-Curse of Flesh which all originated from Northrend which is the opposite of hot. This is similar to the Earthen, except they weren’t created in the image of the titans, but rather as a slave-caste. Warcraft doesn’t have a genuine reason for the existence of different ethnicities, unlike for example TES which uses race as ethnicity (Nord, Imperial, Redguard, etc). In fact, WoW uses its different races as caricatures of real-life races, for better or worse, which is extremely funny considering that, in WoW, Asians were fat furries who almost exclusively practiced kung-fu and worshipped animals until Shadowlands added the Asian option for humans.
1) Black person in white outfit with gold accents has been done to death, completely basic b***h design
2) Horrid hairstyle
3) One arm and busted eye in setting with all kinds of healing magic and prosthetics
4) In general looks like a Donut Steel OC that some twitter troon would make in D&D while thinking it's unique when in reality it's been cliche for years
>no manner of arm replacement in a world full of magic and wacky tech
>hairstyle is abhorrently abominable
that's it really, if you gave her long hair or at least nice short hair like (for example) korra and some manner of prosthetic arm she'd be fine
also the pointy ear is odd, what's up with that? is that an actual thing in warcraft?
Because this character was clearly made to check those infamous Blizzard checkboxes, so she's not even an actual character. And that armor is wasted on her.
>Without sounding angry
have they actually given any reason why her name is Lothar? I mean, is she some kind of adopted daughter or what? It really doesn't make much sense. It's like a Tauren with Windrunner as their last name.
>you can use magic to replace an arm
Why are people acting like WoW lore might follow ANY kind of rules or make sense in any way?
This is a series where it has established that you can resurrect literally anyone by opening a time portal to before they died and taking them from the past to the present.
There's literally no limit on this method of resurrection besides people just not doing it, it doesn't take a particularly powerful spell to pull it off. For some reason only Gul'Dan was brought back in this way although you could use the same principle to save everyone from Theramore or Teldrassil or wherever.
WoW lore is completely fricking moronic and the only thing more moronic are the people who care about it.
>There's literally no limit on this method of resurrection besides people just not doing it, it doesn't take a particularly powerful spell to pull it off. For some reason only Gul'Dan was brought back in this way although you could use the same principle to save everyone from Theramore or Teldrassil or wherever.
All the time-turners were sent back to the ministery and destroyed tho
can some one give me a qdr on this character's origin?
There's no known origins yet.
She's just a Black Half-Elf with the surname Lothar. From a zone where all the NPCs are Half-Elves and presumably descendants of the Arathi who originally moved to the zone.
ahh, ok gotcha, well at least they made her blind side and armless side same side, so i guess it'll make sense? but the lack of scarring/deformity on the blind side doesn't also make sense. maybe they SHOULD add some kind of scarring/deformity on the blind side to score more EGS points
FACT. She's got the surname Lothar.
FACT. Anduin Lothar's sister in the Warcraft movie was a brownoid.
FACT. Metzen was an uncredited co-writer for the Warcaft movie, meaning he approved of Lothar's sister being black in the film.
FACT. Metzen is already back as the main setting writer in War Within, meaning he also approved of another Lothar being a half-elf black mutt.
I have no issues with her, because this is clearly Metzens vision from 10 years ago. Chuds mad.
he is a israelite after all, don't trust a israelite
And here you have it, the real reason Metzen came back, paid to be the scapegoat so they can diarrhea in any direction they want, and now they can rubberstamp it as “always intended”.
Metzen is a israelite, do you really think he wouldn't approve of this? I have no idea why anyone thought Metzen was somehow going to save the game when many of the core problems plaguing the lore and game originated during his tenure. Does no one remember the "we need to stop sexualizing females because my daughter thought it was weird" bullshit?
>why does the character designed with the ESG tool Blizzard said they TOTALLY never used is hated
WoWtroony please......
I panders to homosexuals, that's enough to hate it.
i really doubt metzen was ever consulted or asked for approval about casting for the warcraft movie
He probably was, he was also the co-producer.
Meaning he also had a hand in on who they cast for the movie.
>make a new character
>go through the legion intro shit
>feels like shit
>say frick it and hearthstone back to northshire to do comfy westfall and redridge mountain levelling
>game is fun again
There's nothing comfy about post-cata zones.
>CURRENT YEAR
>the Vineyard is still on fire
>current year
>the dwarves of Menethil Harbor are still putting up sandbags to prevent flooding their houses
>make new character with my free trial edition
>get the Shadowland quest through Chromie
>"Wtf they let me explore all zones and make all quests with my lv20 characters"
>suddenly it stops after I finish Ravendreth and next quest is lv60 only
Whatever, I got too see all zones that all I wanted...
kinda hard to serve the light half blind and missing an arm. if she was a war veteran turned diplomat it'd make more sense but she cannot serve the light as a cripple
she could be a healer
she wont be, but she could be
>kinda hard to serve the light half blind and missing an arm
Not to mention being dark
Urm ackshully according to science, darker objects absorb light, light objects reflect it.
So according to science, Blacks are better at light, chud.
Vitamin D deficiency among Africans living in Sweden tell otherwise
Those guys are just broken draenei. That's what happens when you get exposed to swedes
was it ever established that you need both arms to use light magic or magic at all
usually a staff or a codex is used. you could make an argument for the staff but you definitely should have a free hand if you're using a codex
People with that haircut are never mentally sound and would be ill fit for any sort of military leadership position
Looks ugly
Because every explanation for her existence is fricking dumb.
>she's not related to the royal lothars, she's just from a completely different family that also happened to have the same last name
Dumb.
>anduin had a sister the entire time and nobody bothered to mention this even when the question of succession came up
Dumb.
>her mother is a cheating bawd and her existence was kept a secret
Dumb.
There is no option that isn't completely fricking moronic.
>Black person
>lacking an eye in a world with magic
>lacking an arm in a game without decapitations
>out of nowhere here's a 30 years old Black person
It’s the fricking wheelchair bound troony dragon all over again isn’t it?
I thought fantasy games were an escape for everyone, bot “I have to be reminded that I’m a cripple.”
normies gonna learn who really dominates escapism (it's not normies)
>she will have a naked model with top surgery scars
Screencap this, it's gonna happen.
it reeks of nu-blizz, you can tell it was designed just to meet some diversity quota
Okay I was wrong khadgar is alive after all
>new feature for Work Orders in The War Within: NPCs will place Work Orders in the crafting system to potentially alleviate some of the availability scarcity that currently plagues the market.
>Black
>Black elf
>Female(?)
>Cripple
>presumably a paladin or warrior, which are traditionally masculine classes
I'm sorry it just screams DEI. In all fairness, I already dropped WoW years ago and stopping the gay and Black person pandering at this point wouldn't be enough to bring me back anyway.
>traditionally masculine classes
Did you not play WC/Vanilla where female Night Elves were almost exclusively warriors (and priests to be fair) in a matriarchal society? Did you not play TBC where half of the blood elf females were paladins along with Lady Liadrin not including the occasional demon hunter, or are you simply baiting on a Mongolian basket-weaving forum?
>Remember when [least racially populous example] and [least racially populous example] were added post-Warcraft trilogy???
You're a secondary and a homosexual and don't you ever fricking forget it. Get off my board.
the israelite can't keep his hands off knights/paladins because they're so european, he has to subvert it with Black folk
>post-warcraft trilogy
Night elves being a matriarchal warrior society was introduced in Warcraft 3 you colossal moron, the males were Druidic. Sylvanas being the ranger leader of the high elves was introduced in Warcraft 3 you colossal moron. The population level of these two races has absolutely NOTHING to do with the facts stated above. Stop being a colossal moron you fricking baby and use words correctly, homosexual.
>But you see look at this one matriarchal race with martial fighters and ignore every other race in warcraft
>Also ignore all other fantasy settings lol
Yeah, didn't read the rest of your post you mentally-invalid fricktard.
What are you even angry about? If you’re angry about female player characters and NPCs can be warrior classes, that’s not a Faerin problem, that’s a fantasy RPG problem. That has been a staple since Dungeons and Dragons in the 80s. You are raging about something completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Warcraft has a lot of original sins, this isn’t one of them.
Holy shit stop posting, you will literally never be a woman.
i didn't knew we were getting a new achievement
can't wait to level up to feel weaker!
>a new achievement
expansion
frick my dyxlexic ass
>Ganker would rather assuming cheating, than some Barbarian dude fricking a Dark Elf.
Lmao
dark elves dont exist in the setting, and night elves are purple
When was the last time you kept up the setting?
They played around with the idea of Black Elves in a novel back in Cata. They cemented black high/blood elves in BFA.
So what's the problem with a retcon fricking another retcon to create a retcon?
I dont really care either way, it's just reflective of modern blizzard caring more about ESG score than actually making something cool
There are literally coal black blood/high elves, they've been a thing in game for years and were inserted retroactively. There was a pretty prominent one in dragonflight. Two if you count sindragosa.
>years
barely. being in dragonflight doesn't exactly like up with the disingenuous version of history you are trying to peddle. at most you could get away with true black skin tones and features being added in shadowlands when random NPCs suddenly race changed to black people but that's still only two out of nine current expansions and vanilla.
dude are you moronic
Black blood elves have been playable in game for years. That is a true statement that needs no schizo nonsense inserted into it what are you on about
Are you trying to bullshit us, brother? I played since vanilla and never saw one black BE, despite them being 9 out of every 10 Horde player in BC, nor any NPC either.
No
You can google this. Black blood elves were added more than two years ago. Ergo black blood elves have been playable for years. I don't understand why this is tripping you up so hard or why you're bringing up vanilla and BC
time works differently in the sneedolands
Oh okay, I misread your post. Yeah they have been shoehorning in the DEI for Blackrock for the past few years, so I can believe this. Still don't think I have seen one in game though.
>I can believe this. Still don't think I've seen one in game though
It doesn't matter what you've seen or what you believe, blood elves got a black skin color option in 2020. It's in game right fricking now. Sindragosa's visage form uses it as well as that reliquary npc
sindragosa died before blood elves had even evolved from night elves
din'dorei are a retcon
It's unbelievably irritating that you can't ask for an explanation without being accused of being racist. Hopefully there's something in the game that makes it make sense. There won't be.
the bloodline was corrupted, metzen does it again!
>Battleground Blitz was testing out the 8v8 solo queue and this will be the default for rated battlegrounds in the future.
>mmorpg
>8vs8
I HATE FRICKING Black folk REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
wait you mean we going underground but not the fricking neburian empire?
Nerubian Empire is at the bottom.
In order you've got.
Isle of Dorn at the top.
The Underground Dwarf zone below it.
Harrowfall below that with all the Half Elves.
The Nerubian zone at the very bottom
let me guess . it will be a tiny zone even when in lore they said the nerubian empire is bigger than northrend?
I prefer this edit. If we are going to do this kind of character, let's really do this.
Isn't that just a Draenei construct?
Wouldn't she be cooler if she were?
I guess it is.
Fifth time I see this thread in less than 48 hours.
Relax with your bait, jesus.
She's gonna be the leader of the alliance lol.
Probably
I can already imagine it
>Jaina: "The people need someone to aspire to...someone to give them hope..Who better than the heir of Stormwind's greatest protector?"
>Greymane: "But Anduin! He is the ri-"
>Jaina: "SHUTUP WE HAVE A homie NOW!"
to be fair every story metzen story is "and then a race mixing occurred" because he's a dirty israelite
Only difference between modern Metzen and Old Metzen is that the race-mixing happens through consent and not rape.
>race mixing
Humans and elves are completely different species, it's closer to you getting cucked by your dog than getting cucked by a Black person
if they can have progeny it means that they are genetically very close.
which would mean that humans could probably mate with trolls in warcraft
Since this is a spam thread anyway, here is related copypasta about The 3 Body Problem:
>write book as an allegory for your people destroying humanity to warn others
>destroying scientific progress, slowly invading over 400 years, even self insert character giving warning
>gets past censors
>people are too stupid to understand the message
>write third book spelling out that book is written with message intended to bypass censors
>still gets past censors
>people are still too stupid to understand the message
I think we need to start looking at how many chinks are involved in particle reactors.
Just replace scientific progress with media. It's very obvious that opposing forces are intentionally destroying western civilization at every step.
Haha lol that's epic anon you're so random
I've no sympathy for Warcraft purists who complain about muh mmo retcons and then still try to claim WC3's canon.
You lot didn't complain about retcons, when people travelled west and found a species of Elves that was always there and that were more savage than the Orcs, better at magic than the High Elves, more in-tune with nature/the Gods than the Trolls and had a more successful Empire than the Humans. And they were totally the race that first ever interacted and defeated the Burning Legion.
>Warcraft purists
Do they even exsist?
WC3 put the franchise on the map. That being said I just hate WoW for existing period.
you now grasping at straws to justify wow monthly fanfic retcons.
having wc3 kalimdor being a distant (a mix of america and atlantis) continent, is exactly why it did not changed the history of wc1 and wc2 much.
wow monthly bullshit fanfic changes being canon for the entire Franchise, is why there will never be a warcraft 4.
The complaint isn't about Kalimdor dipshit. The complaint is that Night Elves are the first major example of retcons that this franchise was going to be filled with.
But Warcraft 3 kids don't want to acknowledge that.
>is why there will never be a warcraft 4.
and thats a good thing
People no longer come from a place. The humans of WOW are all specifically meant to hail from a single region, that being Elwynd Forest or whatever. They now have a myriad of different ethnicities and appearances - with no explanation.
Fine, whatever you might say it allows players to customize their characters in ways they were unable to before. That would be the case if it didn't occur at the same time as, say the paintings and statues being changed in Wow and in Diablo 2 remake - every other character in Overwatch being made gay despite having no impact on gameplay and there being no story. We already know they are all in on DEI so everything Blizzard does has suspect motives.
This character will not struggle due to their infirmity, they will not be allowed to fail outside of the incompetence of others who will not be minorities in appearance and they will take the center role of every scene they are in despite potentially sharing it with established demigods that will almost certainly praise their actions.
That's the thing, none of it is genuine. It's just blackwashing for the sake of pandering.
/thread
To even propose you need to explain this just requires anyone asking to be operating from a point of bad faith.
you have always been able to make a Black person in wow
>We wuz Lothar's n sheeit
Same shit different game. OP sounds like one of the homosexual writers for Blizzard that can't handle all the meanies shitting on their newest retcon abomination. You can tell they spun the wheel more than once to create this "character" for a new high score on their diversity chart.
>delve
somebody was playing path of exile on blizzard
I'm still stuck on the gay centaurs in Dragonflight, like there is no way they could frick without one of them dying of a perforated colon.
A lot of gays make do without penetrated sex, at least not often. Anal is a lot of hassle with all the prep.
The centaurs probably just deal with a lot of jaw and shoulder pain
Don't forget about the gay veterinarian couple in azure span. Elf and Human
Black person
Is DEI / ESG the new chud talking point?
No, it's been around for a while now, so it's not exactly new.
How long were frozen? The year is 2024.
ESG no, that's a 2022 one, DEI yes, that's a recent graduation to meme term.
Whatever. I can continue playing my Orc warrior.
Just looks weird, it's like seeing a white person holding a spear with a bone through his nose and african neck rings
>Without sounding angry, irrational or the least bit flustered describe whats wrong with this and exactly why you feel it doesn't belong in a game.
Let me try to translate that through the seven layers of leftist gaslighting.
>Tell me why this is a problem. i know why it's a problem, but if you answer with a sincere and correct answer, I will call you angry and irrational and play the usual card of "racism" or "phobia" in order to keep moral highground and my ranking status amongst my tribe of satanic pedophiles.
I can see why you massaged the language. It does get a bit wordy.
>playing the passive-aggressive victim card
You are more like the opposition in your head than you realize.
>you are the real leftist here if you think about it
Bravo.
You said it not me.
So how come Ganker loves Baiken from Guilty Gear, who is also missing an eye and an arm and is a badass woman fighter? Hypocritical don't you think?
Because Baiken has huge boobs, anon. If the lady in the OP also had huge boobs, it wouldn't be an issue.
Because she is hot. The character in OP's picture is not. It's that simple. Plenty of people on this board have a taste for chocolate, they just demand quality chocolate.
>So how come Ganker loves Baiken from Guilty Gear
No one does, she's disgusting coomerbait with a 0/10 design just like the character in the OP. Only sex-addled morons like her.
Yes this person sounds very calm and rational and not at all shitting their pants.
Now say it again without crying
hating ugly Black folk in videogames is a very clear and well defined position, I don't see anything hypocritical about it.
>1) Baiken has huge breasts she freely bounces everywhere. This is important.
>2) Her one eye and one arm are not there for the sake of ticking a box, it's evoking classic samurai and swordsmen tropes, the one armed swordsman is timeless. Her entire schtick is being a classic samurai but while being a hot woman at the same time
>3) Her missing limb is actually incorporated into her fighting with inventive sword fighting and hidden weapons in her empty sleeve
>4) She's actually a cool character and anti-hero, not a cheesy inspirational figure, and her femininity is treated in an interesting way that doesn't diminish it.
>5) Her ethnicity is also not there simply to tick a box and otherwise complete ignored, it informs her character, being one of the few Japanese people left in the game's world and thus her samurai schtick also serves as her keeping connection to her lost country's memory.
Now, all we have of this character is a datamined model and name, and nothing about their role and character....but can you really say you expect to easily fill five points like I just did for Baiken off the top of my head?
1) Ugly.
2) Ugly.
3) Ugly.
4) Ugly.
5) Ugly.
So yeah I'd say these two characters have a lot in common
t. Faerin
She's also a wacky anime character. Now I'm not here to say that WoW is peak serious super grounded or anything like that, but it sure as shit ain't Guilty Gear.
Might as well be Guilty Gear, would be an improvement at this point.
True, Guilty Gear is also a series where a small girl fights with a giant anchor, another fighter fights with a pool cue, and another with a giant key. Baiken is actually one of the more grounded characters.
May has Japanese super strength, so it's fine. Also, A.B.A. isn't even human, she's an alchemically-created homunculus, wielding a sentient artefact.
My point is it's a pretty wacky series where fighters fight with stuff the dev team thinks will look cool and be fun, rather than any sort of grounding.
she's a hotass cool samurai chick with big booba
breasts
I do a handstand instead.
yeah that about sums it up
"die" used to be used as a euphemism for orgasm, so she is right in a way
booba
>missing an eye and an arm and is a badass woman fighter
>:(
>missing an eye and an arm and is a badass woman fighter - Japanese
:O
There's your answer
Don't Japanese have superpowers in Guilty Gear world?
They have a connection to Gears, and a lot of characters have magic powers, but Baiken doesn't have superpowers, she just trained really hard with a burning motivation
Wrong. Japanese are super special in Guilty Gear and significantly superior to every other Human to the point where the few left are flat out demigods with how much power and strength they possess. Why do you think May could tote around that giant anchor when she was 12? She has super strength, because she's Japanese. It's a Japanese made game, why would you be surprised that the Japanese are the special people in the setting?
One was created to tick boxes on a sheet, the other was not.
>it's the same thing but it's different because....it just is!
There is no Larry Fink demanding ESG shit in Japan
yet there is your amputee, disabled super woman warrior, and no complaints from you
cyclical fallacy is cyclical
Almost like context and execution matter.
That's wrong, they are dependend from that shit equally.
Tell me how Baiken was created to tick boxes, especially when the guys in charge clearly thought of how her fighting styles and background.
>one eye, disabled
>one arm, disabled and amputee
>woman warrior, stronk female
Her missing eye and arm not only are factored into her fighting style, but they serve as a permanent, eternally present reminder of her family's massacre as a child, which drives her whole character, a quest for revenge. Do you think "Faerin Lothar" is going to feature a similar consideration or will her missing arm and eye be mentioned once in an offhand manner, and then never mentioned or factored in again, except for developers to bring up to point to as how inspirational and respectful it is and how they consulted with experts for it?
That's not to say an amputee character's role has to revolve around being an amputee (especially if they're a soldier and that's the cost of doing business sometimes), but you know, ignoring it is almost the same as making it their only trait, because even if it doesn't define them it's still a significant thing and ought to affect them on some level.
>Character who has discarded the idea of being a lady in her single minded pursuit of revenge and retribution, but her inherent beauty and femininity shines through her harsh stoic demeanor regardless, providing a nice contrast
versus
>Absolutely defeminized woman who may as well be a man, who is supposed to be strong because she has no feminine traits whatsoever, as well as inclusive because she is black and an amputee, as several people in real life are one or more of those things too and now they are in the video game officially as well
the stereotypical feminist character, just a toxic man that's been gender swapped
not with that straight hair
Tokenistic DEI negresses and Japanese characters are two entirely different things. You can seethe, you can cope, you can nitpick in vain attempts to make dishonest comparisons but we can all see this character for what she is. A token tickbox character made using a literal skull measuring tool being inserted in to the medium to score brownie points, if she were a roleplay character during the period when WoW wasn't complete shit she would be rightfully laughed out the room as a disgraceful Mary Sue you would expect in Goldshire with the term 'valeborn' for race.
>Tokenistic DEI negresses and Japanese characters
>literally "thing but Japanese :O"
>Per chance I ignore the content of what you're saying then I will win
sneed
You didn't provide any content, you just dragged out a bunch of insults. Literally all you said was "Japanese characters" for the Guilty Gear one.
>Doubles down in a vain attempt to continue ignoring what was said rather than addressing it
Well done Withinwalker!
Are you claiming you said more than "Japanese characters" in response to "thing but Japanese :O"?
>Triples down
Either address what was said or move on, Withinwalker.
DEI checklist character.
>Without sounding angry, irrational or the least bit flustered describe whats wrong with this and exactly why you feel it doesn't belong in a game
If they wanted me to revive my 18 yr sub and pay for an expansion box, this ain't it. "I don't feel seen or represented in this new character. This new content isn't trying to feel welcoming to me."
Chase two audiences for your player base, you will catch neither.
I would explain, but the game is already ruined beyond repair that it's pointless to spend my energy in this.
naw
I'm angry about it and I'll call you a homosexual for liking it
deal with it
>kill off the last semi-competent straight white man
>add crippled blind Black person dyke of power
The subtlety of a brick to the face.
but uhm sweaty can you read their minds?
can you PROVE that this is all transparently politically motivated?
i think not
checkmate
About time Khadgar died tbh. He's the reason Legion happened in the first place.
there has never been a black women that wore armor like that
just seems stupid to me
i dont know who this character is, but assuming that she is missing an arm and is some sort of mercenary of soldier
why would she NOT use magic to grow her arm back, shes actively making her job far worse than it needs to be
unless its some sort of moronic "um shes cursed thats why" copout
>why would she NOT use magic to grow her arm back
Faith. She will go to hell if she alters her light given body.
>evokers get a cool tier
>wont even be able to see it unless you are just standing in town doing nothing in visage form
Can these lazy fricks at least make the EVOKER ONLY ARMOR fit both fricking forms? They'd only need to rig like a couple armor sets an expansion, lazy fricking SHITS
LMAO they STILL can't wear armor?
They've announced you'll be able to keep in human form in combat if you want
but not that gear will be seen on the actual dragon forms?
Don't they have healing/ressurection magic? Why didn't they just get their arm and eye back?
>Cripple
>Non-Binary
>Black person
What else Palestinian? How can you give this shit design more oppressed homosexual Marxist points?
No one said she is non-binary
if trans flags are in the game why can't palestinian flags?
Consider the chart.
Then people or really just redditors, who are neither people nor human will insist that meme diversity wheel "wasn't real" while Blizzard puts out characters like this.
Sometimes I wonder what the psychology is behind this thing I keep seeing, where a company wrangles itself a small pocket of whales who will swallow any shit put in front of them, and then the company just starts torturing them with shit writing, shit character designs, shit gameplay changes, etc.
The same psychology behind battered housewives, anon. At some point, it becomes painfully clear that no matter how many times someone slips and hits their eye on a doorknob, they will never leave.
>Sometimes I wonder what the psychology is behind this thing I keep seeing, where a company wrangles itself a small pocket of whales who will swallow any shit put in front of them, and then the company just starts torturing them with shit writing, shit character designs, shit gameplay changes, etc.
the talmud
>will insist that meme diversity wheel "wasn't real" while Blizzard puts out characters like this.
Unfortunately for them the wowhead article is still up
https://www.wowhead.com/news/kings-diversity-space-tool-a-leap-forward-for-inclusion-in-gaming-327053
They didnt even make the fricking tool, they outsourced it LOL
and why does it suppose to belong in the game?
>dogshit brillo pad hair with repulsive Black jutting face
This will never be acceptable. most humans detest the sights and senses of blacks, and the less I see of them the happier I and even blacks will be.
>Hairstyle
>Blind and scars despite healing magic
>Half-orc ears
>One-armed
>Black
>moron hair
Dishonest character design. It's not for the sake of the game, story, lore, worldbuilding, character or even the fans, it's for the miserable, butt ugly creator to shove their politics down everyone's throat and jerk themselves off over. If they'd make their own shit from scratch then whatever, but they don't, they just infest and destroy because they know nobody wants their shit and the only way for people to consume it is to force it into things people do care about.
It's ugly, it looks like shit. The game is full of DEI abominations now. Warcraft used to be about badass dudes and sexy women. Now dudes can only be Goofy Dads, Soft Sensitive Boys or Evil, and Wahmen have to be Stronk but Desexualized, and now there has to be LGBTQWTF third gender DEI pandering. I'm not going to argue against it's 'right' to exist. I'm arguing that you had something cool and made it shit. It's that simple.
Doesn't look like a WoW character
I'm never giving Blizzard a cent again but the footgay on the armor design team that is just constantly pumping out barefooted gear has my eternal respect.
Proceed to gigacope about how this isn't a black guy
That's just a burned white guy.
That's a dragon.
Black people don't have sleek, straight hair like that. Checkmate.
It isn't, because that's a dragon in a visage, a magical illusion.
He felt like he would be a black guy.
don't you see the white arms?
guess if i take a pic in a full black room i'm a Black person too
Yes
americlap moron racial chart:
hwhite
asian
black
chayneeze
Nearly every new major leader/protagonist is a woman. It's beginning to feel a bit hollow. And no just because the evil nelf dagger thing is a villain now doesn't balance it out.
>people still giving a shit about wow lore after burning crusade
Still better than FFXIV.
:3
Very true.
She should have a combat wheelchair.
Nothing wrong with the chatacter design what's going to suck is her only purpose will be lecturing Anduin about how he needs man up and "acknowledge his privilege!" Because god forbid we have an exploration of the psychological issues men deal with when there are heckin minorites that suffer.
>psychological issues men deal with
no that's already gay feminism, i want dudes hitting things with swords, not dykes hitting things with swords
Disabled black women.
She was created for virtue signaling and so someone with white guilt could feel better about themselves.
Devs probably patting themselves on the back thinking they're so great for diversity or some sjw bs.
Barret (FF7) and Rauban (FF14) are perfect examples of how to include blacks. Rauban is disabled later in the game too and isn't all 'hurr durr whitey did this'
Barret's a good example because in the original he was a real black person.
I always hate that hair style because its safe. whenever devs put any black people in a game, its always the cookie cutter black hair. Why not braided? dreads? afros are real, they dont have to be comical. black hair is either too confusing for them or they're too scared
Unironically they find it hard to correctly model black hair. That short style or the increasingly infamous Killmonger hairdo is a shortcut to supposedly looking "ethnic" (as opposed to giving a black character Caucasian looking hair) but also super easy to model and animate. A lot of black people mock that hairdo's overuse.
What, they can't compete with modelers from 20 years ago?
It's basically a jarring, ill-fitting collection of features from some diversity checkbox list. It's not a character. It's an amalgamation of every possible trait that would give the creator "brownie points".
Carefully crafted as like a coomer would do it, all fetishes pressed into one creature lol.
You just know there will be 1000 moments where she displays what a girlboss women warrior hear me roar she is while the male characters just watch and say how much they can learn from her.
it's creepy how consistent it is, you would think one minor quest would have a male in a positive light and female in a negative light but it's not allowed
Why doesn't she have The Claw?
>Soibot, I need you. My strength is waning.
>one arm woman with weapon bad
>one arm woman with weapon (Japanese) GOOD
The west doesn't understand that breasts need to be made bigger to make up for any lost limbs.
coomers and trannies, two sides of a coin
Geez dude, what's your problem with Baiken?
That she's Japanese, probably
>one looks like shit
>one looks good
why are you so stupid?
if baiken looked like shit people would shit on her too
Africans are an ugly mistake of reality. There's no reason to put them in fiction too.
Idk this doesn't seem as bad as vulperas
Yes, because it's just one character, but the fetishvelopers will give her 200% screen time.
aren't prosthetics a thing in WoW? why doesn't she have some gnomes make her a cool robot arm?
They don't have gnomes in the hollow earth.
Why is it racist to depict able bodied cute black women?
>Add black woman
>Make her a healer, not a snowflake
>Show her being empathetic and helpful to others
>Have her be part of a quest where she HELPS the player
>End the questline with black woman wishing the player well and that she hopes to meet them again
Because uggos would get offended.
People kept making fun of that half-orc half-homosexual shit character by Knack or some other homosexual, this is no different. The character looks moronic so people will say it's moronic.
and no one will like the 20th talanji clone, and next expansion talanji clone 21 will get the spotlight
I've not played this game in forever anyway why should I be mad? I already got my nostalgia fix with tbc classic.
>new gay centaur couple quest
>new gay gift courier guest
WoW won.
Aren't centaurs psychotic monsters in WoW? Why are you mucking about with gay quests for them?
The ones in Kalimdor are all evil, the ones in the Dragon Isles are Not-Tauren honorable plains hunter types because they are.
https://www.wowhead.com/quest=70721/after-my-ohn-heart
They have explained it as in the far distant past, a tribe of centaurs followed a clan leader who disagreed with the warlike ways of the other clans and settled in the Dragon Isles, eventually forging a pact with the Green Dragonflight and going on to be honorable types, while the other clans descended into barbarism.
Because WoW is absolute homosexual shit.
Night elves are the black race in the world of warcraft. Because they're all tall and probably good at basketball
Don't like Black folk.
Did they ever explain how some blood elves got dark skin?
No, of course not, they just added them into the game, said they were always there, race swapped certain NPCs into them, and that was that. You think modern day Blizzard is actually going to attempt to justify their DEI additions with in game lore? They are far too lazy for that.
>DEI!!!!!!
clap clap seal
Since Blizzard flat out stated they added those options into the game for those reasons, you really have no ground to stand on to say otherwise.
Do you deny that you have suddenly started saying "DEI" with extreme regularity in the past month/
they had a whole expansion about wakanda but are still going to shit up the other factions with blacks and trannies
To be fair, anyone still playing WoW at this point deserves everything they're being given, and more. You have to be a self flagellating masochist to keep playing that game in its current state, regardless of real world political issues being shoved into the game and the terrible state of the lore, the game itself is just bad. Which is why ultimately this stuff doesn't matter, the addicts still playing this game will not stop no matter WHAT Blizzard does, so it really won't affect anyone who matters. It's just fun to point and laugh at how bad they're getting, which is the only true entertainment value WoW as a product and as an IP has at this point.
Sunwell tanning beds
Scorched from attuning too hard with the Sunwell.
I wonder if Blizzard will be forced to apologize for these little homies once Cata Classic comes out and everyone remembers they exist
Armor and overall aesthetic looks western or fantasy western, if it actually includes literally any other armor aesthetic outside of europe it would be fine
>whats wrong with this and exactly why you feel it doesn't belong in
Since I don't play games with those... I have no idea what's wrong really.
A Black wearing this outfit would be like the orks in LOTR driving around in cars instead of horses.
It destroys any suspension of disbelief.
It would make more sense to protray their kind as savage cannibals or something, which would be much clloser to real life and more in line with whatever this game SHOULD be. Dress it in rags or lioncloths - not this.
However, all of this would be the left-wing, liberal approach. I am not a libtard, so Blacks should not ever be in any g ame, at all - period.
Whites only.
Warcraft is a fantasy world based on Medieval Europe. Black people did not make up any demographic in this territory at this time and the game series has not featured black people until recently for DEI reasons.
Cope
What cope? Did you think black dragons are Black folk, you moron?
They are literally called "black" dragons and are a repressed minority that is evil you can't get more black.
>Zoomers only know how to interpret media through courses taught by zesty Blacks at university
It's over
They live on "Black"rock mountain. It's a reference to the company Blackrock that are the ones that put blacks in videogames.
It's fantasy, they are black because it looks evil, not because dey police evil
Most people already find black coded characters evil in the first place. Also might I mention there's only one "good" black dragon. Clearly they didnt want to paint all the black dragons as evil which is rather inclusive. The rest were obsessed with breeding as much as possible and taking over the white men human lands.
they are evil because it's fantasy and they needed something evil, not becaue Black folk in real life are evil.
Also they are black dragons and not brown dragons, as africans are not black but brown.
Orc are generally seen as evil and black coded too yknow
Orcs have honor, so they are hardcore anti-black coded
Yeah those honorable orcs
>get willingly mind raped by demons into becoming bloodthirsty monsters
>so stupid they started a genocide on a alien planet
>get enslaved by Chad humans
>their brown skinned leader becomes a maniac
In Grom's defense, he's the son of the stupidest orc who ever lived, so he's got that working against him. The fact that the race backslides into fel abuse literally every time they get the chance speaks volumes against them, though.
It's kind of sad that the orcs in nu-wow have Disney eyes.
>coded
I will not buy your game, blozzard
>thick lips
>big round nose
>obsessed with israeliteelry
They are either latinas or black
What am I supposed to get angry at here?
tumblr oc that has too many special snowflake red flags at once thrown into the bowl. They tried to hard.
This entire thread and no one posted the new Light Undead with male model and breasts of a female? fine, ill do it.
do females have shoulders so broad?
>Yes, they're real. They're not mine, but they're real.
Finally i'm represented <3
I hate sharty Black folk
Blue dragons seem to be israelite coded
>during a war against the undead he decides to hoard all the magic for himself and wants the alliance and Horde to start paying him to use magic
Name a bigger israelite
She's datamined with a tower shield. If she has a magical prosthetic arm, she's pretty cool.
I don't give a frick about the skin color
What really bothers me is the blind eye. Like was that necessary? She already has the arm thing going for her. A character should only have one physical deformity tops or the design is too busy.
she's probably going to have prosthetic arm in game. it's the only way she can use that shield
wait till you hear about her 9000 mental illnesses
I like Punished Snake and Zero, so I guess I just disagree
It is worth noting that "woman" and "black" occupy character gimmick slots.
It does belong in the game, because the game is shit.
Also her hairstyle is bad.
She genuinely looks like a parody of a "woke" character crossed with the OC donut steel super special characters of old we used to mock.
>half-elf, so double the special backstory
>also black
>modern zoomer haircut
>one eye and one arm to be double-crippled
>badass female warrior who probably still beats everyone despite being double-crippled
>androgynous armor that fully covers her up from the neck down and obscures her actual shape as much as possible
>looks young, but probably has achieved things and holds authority well beyond her years
>hitherto unknown daughter/descendant of a legendary character
Just all the special characteristics some hack deviantart writer could come up with crammed into one.
Yeah the fact that they made this character somehow related to Lothar is a big red flag, if you have to try and attach an existing character to your new character in order to sell them, they are by definition a failure that you don't feel confident enough in to have them stand on their own.
Distinct races and nationalities are represented for the sake of "inclusion," but the irony is that they are wholly deracinated and stripped bare of any distinguishing characteristics beyond mere pigmentation. Thus, they are not at all positive representations of their real-world equivalents, but rather blank-slate aesthetic preferences that are directly reliant on the source material to provide them with their flavour.
But, in the case of World of Warcraft, the source material is largely comprised of tropes originating in the Western (European (white)) canon - spanning from antiquity to the medieval period - and so the representations of different races end up being a European man/woman with a different smattering of paint on them, as is so perfectly demonstrated by the character in the OP.
Why is this a bad thing? Other than being a denial of basic reality, it cheapens the aesthetic and immersive quality of the game world, and furthermore fails in its intended ideological goals, also. I would be for racial representation if it was done in a thoughtful manner, which funnily enough it was in the case of WoW and its various anthropomorphic playable races.
There's also the argument that donning a black woman in a suit of armour that is inspired by European tradition is an act of provocation, a la "Queen Charlotte" on Netflix, carried out by the resentful sheboons and Latinas that are responsible for making video games nowadays, but I personally don't think you have to make such an explicit argument for the OP image to serve as an example of poor game design.
As others have mentioned, it would not be so bad if they were explicitly from some land of their own. Look at Guild Wars Nightfall for example. It was top to bottom blacks but people loved it because it was unique and respected the culture it was trying to portray rather than trying to make it something it wasn't.
>Distinct races and nationalities are represented for the sake of "inclusion," but the irony is that they are wholly deracinated and stripped bare of any distinguishing characteristics beyond mere pigmentation. Thus, they are not at all positive representations of their real-world equivalents, but rather blank-slate aesthetic preferences that are directly reliant on the source material to provide them with their flavour.
The problem is the fetish people are aware of that, so they demand ever more of the real life characteristics of races from the real life will be transferred into the game. The result is they will have someday some kind of black guy who likes fried chicken and water melons for the sake of coding him black properly.
Indeed, it's kind of funny how they are just "there". Their race plays no role whatsoever. That's not to say you have to be solely defined by your race, or they have to all come from "The Black Zone (20-28)", but total denial of it existing even while supposedly being more "inclusive" by dotting around more characters with black skintone only really makes them stand out more, as you say, they're effectively just white characters with paint on them.
It's fricked up that there is a real life version of Arkhams Penguin ruining video games for us.
and why am i not allowed to feel passionate about a once-beloved franchise being ruined in front of my very eyes again?